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I just didn’t figure it was adding to the experience,” Buffett, 90, said in an interview with CNBC that aired Tuesday. “I find the telephone a very satisfactory instrument.”</p><p><blockquote>90岁的巴菲特在周二播出的CNBC采访中表示：“我这样做过一两次，他们有一整个屏幕的人。我只是不认为这增加了体验。”“我发现电话是一种非常令人满意的工具。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger, on the other hand, uses the service three times a day. “I think Zoom is here to stay,” Munger said. “It just adds so much convenience.”</p><p><blockquote>另一方面，芒格每天使用该服务三次。“我认为Zoom会继续存在，”芒格说。“这增加了很多便利。”</blockquote></p><p> “Well, particularly, if you’re 97,” Buffett quipped, referring to Munger’s age.</p><p><blockquote>“嗯，特别是如果你已经97岁了，”巴菲特打趣道，指的是芒格的年龄。</blockquote></p><p> In an interview with CNBC filmed from Munger’s backyard in Los Angeles after Berkshire Hathaway’s annual meeting in May, the pair also discussed the uneven impact of the pandemic on small businesses, their negative views of trading platform Robinhood, and the dangers of excessive margin.</p><p><blockquote>5月份伯克希尔哈撒韦公司年会结束后，在芒格位于洛杉矶的后院接受CNBC采访时，两人还讨论了疫情对小企业的不均衡影响、他们对交易平台Robinhood的负面看法以及保证金过高的危险。</blockquote></p><p> On the impact of the pandemic, Buffett said: “I don’t know how many but many hundreds of thousands or millions of small businesses have been hurt in a terrible way. But most of the big, big companies have overwhelmingly done fine unless they happen to be in cruise lines or hotels or something.”</p><p><blockquote>关于疫情的影响，巴菲特表示：“我不知道有多少，但有数十万或数百万的小企业受到了可怕的伤害。但大多数大公司都做得很好，除非他们碰巧在邮轮公司或酒店或其他地方。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger said he believes a lot of business travel, among other things, won’t come back following the pandemic. “A lot of people have found they don’t need to be [in an office]. I think all kinds of things are going to happen that we don’t go back to what we did before.”</p><p><blockquote>芒格表示，他相信疫情爆发后，许多商务旅行等活动将不会恢复。“很多人发现他们不需要[在办公室]。我认为会发生各种各样的事情，让我们无法回到以前的样子。”</blockquote></p><p> “Some people did better than [the U.S.],” Munger added, referring to China’s aggressive response to the virus and subsequent recovery. “They didn’t allow any contact. You picked up your groceries in a box in the apartment and that’s all the contact you had with anybody for six weeks. And, when it was all over, they kind of went back to work. It happened they did it exactly right.”</p><p><blockquote>“有些人做得比（美国）更好，”芒格补充道，他指的是中国对病毒的积极应对以及随后的复苏。“他们不允许任何接触。你在公寓的一个盒子里拿杂货，这就是你六个星期里与任何人的所有接触。当一切都结束后，他们又回去工作了。碰巧他们做得完全正确。”</blockquote></p><p> Much of the special was biographical, with Buffett and Munger reflecting on their first meeting and how their friendship-at-first-sight evolved into a decadeslong venture transforming the Berkshire Hathaway textile company into one of the world’s largest conglomerates.</p><p><blockquote>特别节目的大部分内容都是传记式的，巴菲特和芒格回顾了他们的第一次见面，以及他们的一见钟情如何演变成长达数十年的冒险，将伯克希尔哈撒韦纺织公司转变为世界上最大的企业集团之一。</blockquote></p><p> Asked about Robinhood, Munger called the stock trading app “a gambling parlor masquerading as a respectable business.”</p><p><blockquote>当被问及Robinhood时，芒格称这款股票交易应用程序是“一个伪装成体面企业的赌场”。</blockquote></p><p> “[Robinhood] is not encouraging people to buy a very, very, very low-cost index fund and hold it for 50 years,” Buffett said. “I will guarantee you that you will not walk in there, get that advice. Instead, you’ll get advice on how you can trade options.”</p><p><blockquote>巴菲特表示：“[Robinhood]并不鼓励人们购买成本非常、非常、非常低的指数基金并持有50年。”“我向你保证，你不会走进那里，得到那个建议。相反，你会得到关于如何交易期权的建议。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger also suggested apps like Robinhood aren’t commission-free because the real costs—namely the process of payment for order flow—are hidden.</p><p><blockquote>芒格还表示，像Robinhood这样的应用程序并非免佣金，因为真正的成本——即订单流的支付过程——是隐藏的。</blockquote></p><p> “It’s basically a sleazy, disreputable operation,” Munger said. “And the interesting thing about it is that some good people you would be glad to have marry into your family have backed it.”</p><p><blockquote>“这基本上是一次肮脏、声名狼藉的操作，”芒格说。“有趣的是，一些你很高兴嫁给你家庭的好人支持它。”</blockquote></p><p> Reached for comment, a Robinhood spokesperson referred<i>Barron’s</i>to a May 3 statement from when Munger and Buffett previously criticized the app. “Robinhood has made investing simpler and more accessible to more people — and the public has responded. We are proud of that fact,” Jacqueline Ortiz Ramsay, head of public policy communications at Robinhood,wrote at the time.</p><p><blockquote>联系Robinhood发言人寻求置评<i>巴伦周刊</i>芒格和巴菲特此前批评该应用程序时于5月3日发表的声明。Robinhood公共政策传播主管杰奎琳·奥尔蒂斯·拉姆齐(Jacqueline Ortiz Ramsay)当时写道：“Robinhood让投资变得更简单、更容易为更多人所接受，公众也做出了回应。我们对此感到自豪。”</blockquote></p><p> Regarding the blow-up of hedge fund Archegos Capital that resulted in market volatility and major losses at several banks earlier this year, Munger called for more strict margin requirements.</p><p><blockquote>对于今年早些时候对冲基金Archegos Capital爆仓导致市场波动和多家银行重大损失，芒格呼吁更严格的保证金要求。</blockquote></p><p> “The people who are making money out of this unreasonable extension of credit argue for it, and nobody’s speaking against it,” Munger said. “And last time around, we got the correct regulation that came and stayed for a long time on margin debt only because we had the worst depression in the history of the English-speaking world. That’s what it took to get a little sense into the politicians.”</p><p><blockquote>芒格表示：“从这种不合理的信贷扩张中赚钱的人对此表示支持，但没有人反对。”“上一次，我们对保证金债务进行了正确的监管，并在很长一段时间内持续了下去，只是因为我们经历了英语世界历史上最严重的萧条。这就是让政客们明白一点所需要的。”</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Buffett and Munger Talk Zoom, Robinhood, and Lessons From the Pandemic<blockquote>巴菲特和芒格谈论Zoom、Robinhood以及大流行的教训</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBuffett and Munger Talk Zoom, Robinhood, and Lessons From the Pandemic<blockquote>巴菲特和芒格谈论Zoom、Robinhood以及大流行的教训</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Barrons</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-30 17:04</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Unlike his longtime friend and business partner Charlie Munger,Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett isn’t a huge fan of Zoom meetings.</p><p><blockquote>与他的老朋友和商业伙伴查理·芒格不同，伯克希尔·哈撒韦公司首席执行官沃伦·巴菲特并不热衷于Zoom会议。</blockquote></p><p> “I did it once or twice, and they had a whole screen of people. I just didn’t figure it was adding to the experience,” Buffett, 90, said in an interview with CNBC that aired Tuesday. “I find the telephone a very satisfactory instrument.”</p><p><blockquote>90岁的巴菲特在周二播出的CNBC采访中表示：“我这样做过一两次，他们有一整个屏幕的人。我只是不认为这增加了体验。”“我发现电话是一种非常令人满意的工具。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger, on the other hand, uses the service three times a day. “I think Zoom is here to stay,” Munger said. “It just adds so much convenience.”</p><p><blockquote>另一方面，芒格每天使用该服务三次。“我认为Zoom会继续存在，”芒格说。“这增加了很多便利。”</blockquote></p><p> “Well, particularly, if you’re 97,” Buffett quipped, referring to Munger’s age.</p><p><blockquote>“嗯，特别是如果你已经97岁了，”巴菲特打趣道，指的是芒格的年龄。</blockquote></p><p> In an interview with CNBC filmed from Munger’s backyard in Los Angeles after Berkshire Hathaway’s annual meeting in May, the pair also discussed the uneven impact of the pandemic on small businesses, their negative views of trading platform Robinhood, and the dangers of excessive margin.</p><p><blockquote>5月份伯克希尔哈撒韦公司年会结束后，在芒格位于洛杉矶的后院接受CNBC采访时，两人还讨论了疫情对小企业的不均衡影响、他们对交易平台Robinhood的负面看法以及保证金过高的危险。</blockquote></p><p> On the impact of the pandemic, Buffett said: “I don’t know how many but many hundreds of thousands or millions of small businesses have been hurt in a terrible way. But most of the big, big companies have overwhelmingly done fine unless they happen to be in cruise lines or hotels or something.”</p><p><blockquote>关于疫情的影响，巴菲特表示：“我不知道有多少，但有数十万或数百万的小企业受到了可怕的伤害。但大多数大公司都做得很好，除非他们碰巧在邮轮公司或酒店或其他地方。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger said he believes a lot of business travel, among other things, won’t come back following the pandemic. “A lot of people have found they don’t need to be [in an office]. I think all kinds of things are going to happen that we don’t go back to what we did before.”</p><p><blockquote>芒格表示，他相信疫情爆发后，许多商务旅行等活动将不会恢复。“很多人发现他们不需要[在办公室]。我认为会发生各种各样的事情，让我们无法回到以前的样子。”</blockquote></p><p> “Some people did better than [the U.S.],” Munger added, referring to China’s aggressive response to the virus and subsequent recovery. “They didn’t allow any contact. You picked up your groceries in a box in the apartment and that’s all the contact you had with anybody for six weeks. And, when it was all over, they kind of went back to work. It happened they did it exactly right.”</p><p><blockquote>“有些人做得比（美国）更好，”芒格补充道，他指的是中国对病毒的积极应对以及随后的复苏。“他们不允许任何接触。你在公寓的一个盒子里拿杂货，这就是你六个星期里与任何人的所有接触。当一切都结束后，他们又回去工作了。碰巧他们做得完全正确。”</blockquote></p><p> Much of the special was biographical, with Buffett and Munger reflecting on their first meeting and how their friendship-at-first-sight evolved into a decadeslong venture transforming the Berkshire Hathaway textile company into one of the world’s largest conglomerates.</p><p><blockquote>特别节目的大部分内容都是传记式的，巴菲特和芒格回顾了他们的第一次见面，以及他们的一见钟情如何演变成长达数十年的冒险，将伯克希尔哈撒韦纺织公司转变为世界上最大的企业集团之一。</blockquote></p><p> Asked about Robinhood, Munger called the stock trading app “a gambling parlor masquerading as a respectable business.”</p><p><blockquote>当被问及Robinhood时，芒格称这款股票交易应用程序是“一个伪装成体面企业的赌场”。</blockquote></p><p> “[Robinhood] is not encouraging people to buy a very, very, very low-cost index fund and hold it for 50 years,” Buffett said. “I will guarantee you that you will not walk in there, get that advice. Instead, you’ll get advice on how you can trade options.”</p><p><blockquote>巴菲特表示：“[Robinhood]并不鼓励人们购买成本非常、非常、非常低的指数基金并持有50年。”“我向你保证，你不会走进那里，得到那个建议。相反，你会得到关于如何交易期权的建议。”</blockquote></p><p> Munger also suggested apps like Robinhood aren’t commission-free because the real costs—namely the process of payment for order flow—are hidden.</p><p><blockquote>芒格还表示，像Robinhood这样的应用程序并非免佣金，因为真正的成本——即订单流的支付过程——是隐藏的。</blockquote></p><p> “It’s basically a sleazy, disreputable operation,” Munger said. “And the interesting thing about it is that some good people you would be glad to have marry into your family have backed it.”</p><p><blockquote>“这基本上是一次肮脏、声名狼藉的操作，”芒格说。“有趣的是，一些你很高兴嫁给你家庭的好人支持它。”</blockquote></p><p> Reached for comment, a Robinhood spokesperson referred<i>Barron’s</i>to a May 3 statement from when Munger and Buffett previously criticized the app. “Robinhood has made investing simpler and more accessible to more people — and the public has responded. We are proud of that fact,” Jacqueline Ortiz Ramsay, head of public policy communications at Robinhood,wrote at the time.</p><p><blockquote>联系Robinhood发言人寻求置评<i>巴伦周刊</i>芒格和巴菲特此前批评该应用程序时于5月3日发表的声明。Robinhood公共政策传播主管杰奎琳·奥尔蒂斯·拉姆齐(Jacqueline Ortiz Ramsay)当时写道：“Robinhood让投资变得更简单、更容易为更多人所接受，公众也做出了回应。我们对此感到自豪。”</blockquote></p><p> Regarding the blow-up of hedge fund Archegos Capital that resulted in market volatility and major losses at several banks earlier this year, Munger called for more strict margin requirements.</p><p><blockquote>对于今年早些时候对冲基金Archegos Capital爆仓导致市场波动和多家银行重大损失，芒格呼吁更严格的保证金要求。</blockquote></p><p> “The people who are making money out of this unreasonable extension of credit argue for it, and nobody’s speaking against it,” Munger said. “And last time around, we got the correct regulation that came and stayed for a long time on margin debt only because we had the worst depression in the history of the English-speaking world. That’s what it took to get a little sense into the politicians.”</p><p><blockquote>芒格表示：“从这种不合理的信贷扩张中赚钱的人对此表示支持，但没有人反对。”“上一次，我们对保证金债务进行了正确的监管，并在很长一段时间内持续了下去，只是因为我们经历了英语世界历史上最严重的萧条。这就是让政客们明白一点所需要的。”</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/buffett-munger-zoom-robinhood-pandemic-51625020162?mod=hp_LEADSUPP_2\">Barrons</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BRK.A":"伯克希尔","BRK.B":"伯克希尔B","ZM":"Zoom"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/buffett-munger-zoom-robinhood-pandemic-51625020162?mod=hp_LEADSUPP_2","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1145186822","content_text":"Unlike his longtime friend and business partner Charlie Munger,Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett isn’t a huge fan of Zoom meetings.\n“I did it once or twice, and they had a whole screen of people. I just didn’t figure it was adding to the experience,” Buffett, 90, said in an interview with CNBC that aired Tuesday. “I find the telephone a very satisfactory instrument.”\nMunger, on the other hand, uses the service three times a day. “I think Zoom is here to stay,” Munger said. “It just adds so much convenience.”\n“Well, particularly, if you’re 97,” Buffett quipped, referring to Munger’s age.\nIn an interview with CNBC filmed from Munger’s backyard in Los Angeles after Berkshire Hathaway’s annual meeting in May, the pair also discussed the uneven impact of the pandemic on small businesses, their negative views of trading platform Robinhood, and the dangers of excessive margin.\nOn the impact of the pandemic, Buffett said: “I don’t know how many but many hundreds of thousands or millions of small businesses have been hurt in a terrible way. But most of the big, big companies have overwhelmingly done fine unless they happen to be in cruise lines or hotels or something.”\nMunger said he believes a lot of business travel, among other things, won’t come back following the pandemic. “A lot of people have found they don’t need to be [in an office]. I think all kinds of things are going to happen that we don’t go back to what we did before.”\n“Some people did better than [the U.S.],” Munger added, referring to China’s aggressive response to the virus and subsequent recovery. “They didn’t allow any contact. You picked up your groceries in a box in the apartment and that’s all the contact you had with anybody for six weeks. And, when it was all over, they kind of went back to work. It happened they did it exactly right.”\nMuch of the special was biographical, with Buffett and Munger reflecting on their first meeting and how their friendship-at-first-sight evolved into a decadeslong venture transforming the Berkshire Hathaway textile company into one of the world’s largest conglomerates.\nAsked about Robinhood, Munger called the stock trading app “a gambling parlor masquerading as a respectable business.”\n“[Robinhood] is not encouraging people to buy a very, very, very low-cost index fund and hold it for 50 years,” Buffett said. “I will guarantee you that you will not walk in there, get that advice. Instead, you’ll get advice on how you can trade options.”\nMunger also suggested apps like Robinhood aren’t commission-free because the real costs—namely the process of payment for order flow—are hidden.\n“It’s basically a sleazy, disreputable operation,” Munger said. “And the interesting thing about it is that some good people you would be glad to have marry into your family have backed it.”\nReached for comment, a Robinhood spokesperson referredBarron’sto a May 3 statement from when Munger and Buffett previously criticized the app. “Robinhood has made investing simpler and more accessible to more people — and the public has responded. We are proud of that fact,” Jacqueline Ortiz Ramsay, head of public policy communications at Robinhood,wrote at the time.\nRegarding the blow-up of hedge fund Archegos Capital that resulted in market volatility and major losses at several banks earlier this year, Munger called for more strict margin requirements.\n“The people who are making money out of this unreasonable extension of credit argue for it, and nobody’s speaking against it,” Munger said. “And last time around, we got the correct regulation that came and stayed for a long time on margin debt only because we had the worst depression in the history of the English-speaking world. 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