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2021-12-27

there's only one Elon musk. There's a lot of stuff going on at TSLA other than just making EV. Maybe not all will succeed but even if one of 2 from fsd, insurance, autobot, robotaxi revenue impact will be huge.

The next Tesla is proving hard to find<blockquote>事实证明，下一个特斯拉很难找到</blockquote>

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BorgPetty
2021-12-28
BorgPetty
I’m hoping this drops to $130-140 so I can load up on 2023 options. This year is going to be huge for metaverse stocks & Unity might just be the biggest beneficiary.
- HardyJenny:
  When markets turn negative, long term investors see it as opportunity.
BecauseOfYou
2021-12-28
BecauseOfYou
特斯拉是一家伟大的公司，已经将全球汽车行业带入了电动汽车时代。这家公司目前的估值太高，不能购买或持有。
RubyPulitzer
2021-12-28
RubyPulitzer
What you said is right. Fully support your point of view. It is Musk who makes Tesla a success.

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But all have struggled recently -- as has Tesla (TSLA) itself.<blockquote>近年来，随着投资者寻找下一家撼动汽车市场的公司，许多新兴电动汽车制造商的股价飙升。但最近所有人都在苦苦挣扎——特斯拉（TSLA）本身也是如此。</blockquote> Lucid, which started trading on the Nasdaq in July after a SPAC deal, had its share of good news: Its first car, the Lucid Air, won MotorTrend Car of the Year honors and was certified as having a range of 520 miles on a single charge, the longest of any EV. But company has also disclosed it faces subpoenas from the Securities and Exchange Commission about some of its claims and the SPAC deal, and shares are down from a November 16 peak.<blockquote>Lucid在SPAC交易后于7月开始在纳斯达克交易，它也有好消息：其第一辆汽车Lucid Air赢得了MotorTrend年度汽车荣誉，并被认证为一次续航里程为520英里。一次充电，是所有电动汽车中最长的。但该公司还透露，其部分索赔和SPAC交易面临美国证券交易委员会的传票，股价较11月16日的峰值下跌。</blockquote> Electric truck maker Rivian had a huge hit with its November IPO, and it also won MotorTrend Truck of the Year honors. Rivian won the race to be the first all-electric pickup to reach market. Shares shot up 29% from the IPO price on its first day of trading, and gained another 71% over the next week.<blockquote>电动卡车制造商Rivian在11月的IPO中大受欢迎，还获得了MotorTrend年度卡车荣誉。Rivian赢得了第一款进入市场的全电动皮卡的比赛。股价在首日交易中较IPO价格上涨29%，并在接下来的一周内又上涨了71%。</blockquote> Rivian was briefly the third-most-valuable automaker on the planet, behind only Tesla and Toyota, despite having yet to report any sales when it went public. When it finally reported its first sales on December 16 they fell short of expectations, and the company cited the same chip and parts shortages dogging the rest of the auto industry. 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Still, it is trading 13% below its all-time peak.<blockquote>即使是今年早些时候成为第六家市值达到1万亿美元的公司的特斯拉，最近也遇到了麻烦。截至周二，该股较11月4日创下的历史高点下跌了27%，随后本周晚些时候的反弹将其回升至1万亿美元大关之上。尽管如此，其交易价格仍比历史峰值低13%。</blockquote> Part of the recent problem for EV stocks is the apparent demise of the Biden administration's Build Back Better bill, which had a number of goodies for the EV industry, including enhanced tax credits for buyers that would have allowed automakers to charge more for the vehicles. Build Back Better also includes money for a network of rapid charging stations, which would have answered potential EV buyers' concerns about running out of juice while on the road.<blockquote>电动汽车股票最近的部分问题是拜登政府的“重建更好”法案明显失效，该法案为电动汽车行业带来了许多好处，包括加强对买家的税收抵免，这将允许汽车制造商对车辆收取更高的费用。Build Back Better还包括为快速充电站网络提供资金，这将解决潜在电动汽车买家对在路上电量耗尽的担忧。</blockquote> \"That was a gut punch to the EV bulls,\" said Dan Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities. \"For incremental demand in 2022 and beyond, the EVs tax credits is a 15% swing factor in demand.\"<blockquote>韦德布什证券(Wedbush Securities)技术分析师丹·艾夫斯(Dan Ives)表示：“这对电动汽车多头来说是一记重击。”“对于2022年及以后的增量需求，电动汽车税收抵免是需求15%的波动因素。”</blockquote> But much of the decline in EV stocks took place before Sen. Joe Manchin said last week he couldn't support the legislation, throwing its future in severe doubt.<blockquote>但电动汽车股票的下跌大部分发生在参议员乔·曼钦(Joe Manchin)上周表示他无法支持该立法之前，这使其未来受到严重质疑。</blockquote> Much of the dip is due to continued announcements from established automakers such as Volkswagen, Toyota, Ford and GM about additional investment plans in EVs. The concern is that even if consumer preferences and tougher environment rules are about to create a massive shift from gasoline-powered vehicles to electrics, stand-alone EV companies won't necessarily win the battle.<blockquote>下降的主要原因是大众、丰田、福特和通用等老牌汽车制造商不断宣布电动汽车的额外投资计划。令人担忧的是，即使消费者偏好和更严格的环境规则即将导致从汽油动力汽车向电动汽车的大规模转变，独立的电动汽车公司也不一定会赢得这场战斗。</blockquote> \"There are going to be losers in the battle for EV market share,\" said Ives. \"Rivian coming out of gate with a delivery short fall, that couldn't have come at a worst time. It's a dark cloud on the pure play EV makers. And investors have a lot less patience with any execution missteps.\"<blockquote>艾夫斯表示：“在电动汽车市场份额的争夺中，将会有输家。”“Rivian一出就出现了交付短缺，这不可能是在最糟糕的时候。这对纯电动汽车制造商来说是一片乌云。投资者对任何执行失误的耐心都大大降低。”</blockquote> Tesla has grown to the point where it is profitable and large enough to grow even in the face of increased competition from the established automakers. It projects sales growth of 50% or better this year and beyond. And the stock has mostly bucked the declines in the sector, rising 51% so far this year.<blockquote>特斯拉已经发展到盈利的程度，并且即使面对来自老牌汽车制造商的日益激烈的竞争，其规模也足以实现增长。它预计今年及以后的销售额将增长50%或更高。该股在很大程度上顶住了该行业的跌势，今年迄今已上涨51%。</blockquote> Although that is only a fraction of the 743% gain Tesla stock achieved in 2020, it's better than most of the established automakers other than Ford, whose shares are up 131% this year after posting significant gains in its own EV efforts.<blockquote>尽管这只是特斯拉股价在2020年实现的743%涨幅的一小部分，但它比除福特之外的大多数老牌汽车制造商都要好，福特在自己的电动汽车努力取得显着收益后，股价今年上涨了131%。</blockquote> The two most troubled EV stocks -- Nikola and Lordstown Motors -- lost 27% and 80% of their value, respectively, through Thursday's close, although Nikola's stock surged 18% Thursday after announcing it had finally made its first truck delivery.<blockquote>截至周四收盘，两只陷入困境的电动汽车股票——Nikola和Lordstown Motors——的价值分别下跌了27%和80%，尽管Nikola的股价在宣布终于完成首次卡车交付后周四飙升了18%。</blockquote> But earlier in the week, Nikola agreed to pay a $125 million fine to settle charges Trevor Milton, its founder and former CEO, deceived investors. Milton was forced to resign in September 2020 after questions about company's claims first surfaced. He now faces federal criminal charges.<blockquote>但本周早些时候，尼古拉同意支付1.25亿美元罚款，以和解其创始人兼前首席执行官特雷弗·米尔顿(Trevor Milton)欺骗投资者的指控。在有关公司索赔的问题首次浮出水面后，米尔顿于2020年9月被迫辞职。他现在面临联邦刑事指控。</blockquote> The founder and CEO of Lordstown was also forced to resign, and the company has expressed doubts that it can remain in business.<blockquote>Lordstown的创始人兼首席执行官也被迫辞职，该公司对能否继续经营表示怀疑。</blockquote> The trouble those companies had living up to their early promises means companies like Lucid and Rivian will have to do more to prove themselves before they will be fully embraced by investors, Ives said.<blockquote>Ives表示，这些公司在兑现早期承诺方面遇到的麻烦意味着Lucid和Rivian等公司必须采取更多措施来证明自己，才能完全被投资者接受。</blockquote>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The next Tesla is proving hard to find<blockquote>事实证明，下一个特斯拉很难找到</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe next Tesla is proving hard to find<blockquote>事实证明，下一个特斯拉很难找到</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\nCNN Business2021-12-27 11:33\n\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\nNew York (CNN Business)Finding the next Tesla among electric vehicle stocks is proving to be difficult.<blockquote>纽约（CNN Business）事实证明，在电动汽车股票中寻找下一个特斯拉是困难的。</blockquote> A number of upstart electric vehicle makers' stock prices soared in recent years, as investors looked for the next company to shake up the car market. But all have struggled recently -- as has Tesla (TSLA) itself.<blockquote>近年来，随着投资者寻找下一家撼动汽车市场的公司，许多新兴电动汽车制造商的股价飙升。但最近所有人都在苦苦挣扎——特斯拉（TSLA）本身也是如此。</blockquote> Lucid, which started trading on the Nasdaq in July after a SPAC deal, had its share of good news: Its first car, the Lucid Air, won MotorTrend Car of the Year honors and was certified as having a range of 520 miles on a single charge, the longest of any EV. But company has also disclosed it faces subpoenas from the Securities and Exchange Commission about some of its claims and the SPAC deal, and shares are down from a November 16 peak.<blockquote>Lucid在SPAC交易后于7月开始在纳斯达克交易，它也有好消息：其第一辆汽车Lucid Air赢得了MotorTrend年度汽车荣誉，并被认证为一次续航里程为520英里。一次充电，是所有电动汽车中最长的。但该公司还透露，其部分索赔和SPAC交易面临美国证券交易委员会的传票，股价较11月16日的峰值下跌。</blockquote> Electric truck maker Rivian had a huge hit with its November IPO, and it also won MotorTrend Truck of the Year honors. Rivian won the race to be the first all-electric pickup to reach market. Shares shot up 29% from the IPO price on its first day of trading, and gained another 71% over the next week.<blockquote>电动卡车制造商Rivian在11月的IPO中大受欢迎，还获得了MotorTrend年度卡车荣誉。Rivian赢得了第一款进入市场的全电动皮卡的比赛。股价在首日交易中较IPO价格上涨29%，并在接下来的一周内又上涨了71%。</blockquote> Rivian was briefly the third-most-valuable automaker on the planet, behind only Tesla and Toyota, despite having yet to report any sales when it went public. When it finally reported its first sales on December 16 they fell short of expectations, and the company cited the same chip and parts shortages dogging the rest of the auto industry. Shares closed Thursday down 44% from that pre-report high, and the sales report proved to be a headwind for Lucid shares as well.<blockquote>Rivian曾一度成为全球第三大最有价值的汽车制造商，仅次于特斯拉和丰田，尽管该公司上市时尚未报告任何销售额。当该公司最终在12月16日报告首次销售时，销量未达到预期，该公司还提到了困扰汽车行业其他公司的芯片和零部件短缺问题。周四收盘时，该股较报告前高点下跌44%，事实证明，销售报告也对Lucid股价构成阻力。</blockquote> Even Tesla, which earlier this year became only the sixth company to reach a $1 trillion market value, has encountered recent troubles. Shares sank as much as 27% from an all-time high set on November 4 through Tuesday -- before a late-week rally lifted it back above the $1 trillion mark. Still, it is trading 13% below its all-time peak.<blockquote>即使是今年早些时候成为第六家市值达到1万亿美元的公司的特斯拉，最近也遇到了麻烦。截至周二，该股较11月4日创下的历史高点下跌了27%，随后本周晚些时候的反弹将其回升至1万亿美元大关之上。尽管如此，其交易价格仍比历史峰值低13%。</blockquote> Part of the recent problem for EV stocks is the apparent demise of the Biden administration's Build Back Better bill, which had a number of goodies for the EV industry, including enhanced tax credits for buyers that would have allowed automakers to charge more for the vehicles. Build Back Better also includes money for a network of rapid charging stations, which would have answered potential EV buyers' concerns about running out of juice while on the road.<blockquote>电动汽车股票最近的部分问题是拜登政府的“重建更好”法案明显失效，该法案为电动汽车行业带来了许多好处，包括加强对买家的税收抵免，这将允许汽车制造商对车辆收取更高的费用。Build Back Better还包括为快速充电站网络提供资金，这将解决潜在电动汽车买家对在路上电量耗尽的担忧。</blockquote> \"That was a gut punch to the EV bulls,\" said Dan Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities. \"For incremental demand in 2022 and beyond, the EVs tax credits is a 15% swing factor in demand.\"<blockquote>韦德布什证券(Wedbush Securities)技术分析师丹·艾夫斯(Dan Ives)表示：“这对电动汽车多头来说是一记重击。”“对于2022年及以后的增量需求，电动汽车税收抵免是需求15%的波动因素。”</blockquote> But much of the decline in EV stocks took place before Sen. Joe Manchin said last week he couldn't support the legislation, throwing its future in severe doubt.<blockquote>但电动汽车股票的下跌大部分发生在参议员乔·曼钦(Joe Manchin)上周表示他无法支持该立法之前，这使其未来受到严重质疑。</blockquote> Much of the dip is due to continued announcements from established automakers such as Volkswagen, Toyota, Ford and GM about additional investment plans in EVs. The concern is that even if consumer preferences and tougher environment rules are about to create a massive shift from gasoline-powered vehicles to electrics, stand-alone EV companies won't necessarily win the battle.<blockquote>下降的主要原因是大众、丰田、福特和通用等老牌汽车制造商不断宣布电动汽车的额外投资计划。令人担忧的是，即使消费者偏好和更严格的环境规则即将导致从汽油动力汽车向电动汽车的大规模转变，独立的电动汽车公司也不一定会赢得这场战斗。</blockquote> \"There are going to be losers in the battle for EV market share,\" said Ives. \"Rivian coming out of gate with a delivery short fall, that couldn't have come at a worst time. It's a dark cloud on the pure play EV makers. And investors have a lot less patience with any execution missteps.\"<blockquote>艾夫斯表示：“在电动汽车市场份额的争夺中，将会有输家。”“Rivian一出就出现了交付短缺，这不可能是在最糟糕的时候。这对纯电动汽车制造商来说是一片乌云。投资者对任何执行失误的耐心都大大降低。”</blockquote> Tesla has grown to the point where it is profitable and large enough to grow even in the face of increased competition from the established automakers. It projects sales growth of 50% or better this year and beyond. And the stock has mostly bucked the declines in the sector, rising 51% so far this year.<blockquote>特斯拉已经发展到盈利的程度，并且即使面对来自老牌汽车制造商的日益激烈的竞争，其规模也足以实现增长。它预计今年及以后的销售额将增长50%或更高。该股在很大程度上顶住了该行业的跌势，今年迄今已上涨51%。</blockquote> Although that is only a fraction of the 743% gain Tesla stock achieved in 2020, it's better than most of the established automakers other than Ford, whose shares are up 131% this year after posting significant gains in its own EV efforts.<blockquote>尽管这只是特斯拉股价在2020年实现的743%涨幅的一小部分，但它比除福特之外的大多数老牌汽车制造商都要好，福特在自己的电动汽车努力取得显着收益后，股价今年上涨了131%。</blockquote> The two most troubled EV stocks -- Nikola and Lordstown Motors -- lost 27% and 80% of their value, respectively, through Thursday's close, although Nikola's stock surged 18% Thursday after announcing it had finally made its first truck delivery.<blockquote>截至周四收盘，两只陷入困境的电动汽车股票——Nikola和Lordstown Motors——的价值分别下跌了27%和80%，尽管Nikola的股价在宣布终于完成首次卡车交付后周四飙升了18%。</blockquote> But earlier in the week, Nikola agreed to pay a $125 million fine to settle charges Trevor Milton, its founder and former CEO, deceived investors. Milton was forced to resign in September 2020 after questions about company's claims first surfaced. He now faces federal criminal charges.<blockquote>但本周早些时候，尼古拉同意支付1.25亿美元罚款，以和解其创始人兼前首席执行官特雷弗·米尔顿(Trevor Milton)欺骗投资者的指控。在有关公司索赔的问题首次浮出水面后，米尔顿于2020年9月被迫辞职。他现在面临联邦刑事指控。</blockquote> The founder and CEO of Lordstown was also forced to resign, and the company has expressed doubts that it can remain in business.<blockquote>Lordstown的创始人兼首席执行官也被迫辞职，该公司对能否继续经营表示怀疑。</blockquote> The trouble those companies had living up to their early promises means companies like Lucid and Rivian will have to do more to prove themselves before they will be fully embraced by investors, Ives said.<blockquote>Ives表示，这些公司在兑现早期承诺方面遇到的麻烦意味着Lucid和Rivian等公司必须采取更多措施来证明自己，才能完全被投资者接受。</blockquote>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n 来源：<a href=\"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/26/investing/tesla-ev-stocks/index.html\">CNN Business</a>\n为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"RIVN":"Rivian Automotive, Inc.","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/26/investing/tesla-ev-stocks/index.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1138768744","content_text":"New York (CNN Business)Finding the next Tesla among electric vehicle stocks is proving to be difficult.\nA number of upstart electric vehicle makers' stock prices soared in recent years, as investors looked for the next company to shake up the car market. But all have struggled recently -- as has Tesla (TSLA) itself.\nLucid, which started trading on the Nasdaq in July after a SPAC deal, had its share of good news: Its first car, the Lucid Air, won MotorTrend Car of the Year honors and was certified as having a range of 520 miles on a single charge, the longest of any EV. But company has also disclosed it faces subpoenas from the Securities and Exchange Commission about some of its claims and the SPAC deal, and shares are down from a November 16 peak.\nElectric truck maker Rivian had a huge hit with its November IPO, and it also won MotorTrend Truck of the Year honors. Rivian won the race to be the first all-electric pickup to reach market. Shares shot up 29% from the IPO price on its first day of trading, and gained another 71% over the next week.\nRivian was briefly the third-most-valuable automaker on the planet, behind only Tesla and Toyota, despite having yet to report any sales when it went public. When it finally reported its first sales on December 16 they fell short of expectations, and the company cited the same chip and parts shortages dogging the rest of the auto industry. Shares closed Thursday down 44% from that pre-report high, and the sales report proved to be a headwind for Lucid shares as well.\nEven Tesla, which earlier this year became only the sixth company to reach a $1 trillion market value, has encountered recent troubles. Shares sank as much as 27% from an all-time high set on November 4 through Tuesday -- before a late-week rally lifted it back above the $1 trillion mark. Still, it is trading 13% below its all-time peak.\nPart of the recent problem for EV stocks is the apparent demise of the Biden administration's Build Back Better bill, which had a number of goodies for the EV industry, including enhanced tax credits for buyers that would have allowed automakers to charge more for the vehicles. Build Back Better also includes money for a network of rapid charging stations, which would have answered potential EV buyers' concerns about running out of juice while on the road.\n\"That was a gut punch to the EV bulls,\" said Dan Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities. \"For incremental demand in 2022 and beyond, the EVs tax credits is a 15% swing factor in demand.\"\nBut much of the decline in EV stocks took place before Sen. Joe Manchin said last week he couldn't support the legislation, throwing its future in severe doubt.\nMuch of the dip is due to continued announcements from established automakers such as Volkswagen, Toyota, Ford and GM about additional investment plans in EVs. The concern is that even if consumer preferences and tougher environment rules are about to create a massive shift from gasoline-powered vehicles to electrics, stand-alone EV companies won't necessarily win the battle.\n\"There are going to be losers in the battle for EV market share,\" said Ives. \"Rivian coming out of gate with a delivery short fall, that couldn't have come at a worst time. It's a dark cloud on the pure play EV makers. And investors have a lot less patience with any execution missteps.\"\nTesla has grown to the point where it is profitable and large enough to grow even in the face of increased competition from the established automakers. It projects sales growth of 50% or better this year and beyond. And the stock has mostly bucked the declines in the sector, rising 51% so far this year.\nAlthough that is only a fraction of the 743% gain Tesla stock achieved in 2020, it's better than most of the established automakers other than Ford, whose shares are up 131% this year after posting significant gains in its own EV efforts.\nThe two most troubled EV stocks -- Nikola and Lordstown Motors -- lost 27% and 80% of their value, respectively, through Thursday's close, although Nikola's stock surged 18% Thursday after announcing it had finally made its first truck delivery.\nBut earlier in the week, Nikola agreed to pay a $125 million fine to settle charges Trevor Milton, its founder and former CEO, deceived investors. Milton was forced to resign in September 2020 after questions about company's claims first surfaced. He now faces federal criminal charges.\nThe founder and CEO of Lordstown was also forced to resign, and the company has expressed doubts that it can remain in business.\nThe trouble those companies had living up to their early promises means companies like Lucid and Rivian will have to do more to prove themselves before they will be fully embraced by investors, Ives said.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"RIVN":0.9,"NKLA":0.9,"LCID":0.9,"RIDE":0.9,"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":6283,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":["AONE.U"],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"CN","currentLanguage":"CN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":171,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ZH_CN"},"commentList":[{"id":7121197,"commentId":"7121197","gmtCreate":1640625212083,"gmtModify":1640625212083,"authorId":9000000000000672,"author":{"id":9000000000000672,"idStr":"9000000000000672","authorId":9000000000000672,"name":"BorgPetty","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":696987116,"objectIdStr":"696987116","type":1,"supId":0,"supIdStr":"0","prevId":0,"prevIdStr":"0","content":"I’m hoping this drops to $130-140 so I can load up on 2023 options. 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