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2021-09-26
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Opinion: Market analysts can’t agree on where stocks are going next. So double-check the data before you buy or sell<blockquote>观点: 市场分析师无法就股市下一步走势达成一致。因此,在购买或出售之前,请仔细检查数据</blockquote>
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So double-check the data before you buy or sell<blockquote>观点: 市场分析师无法就股市下一步走势达成一致。因此,在购买或出售之前,请仔细检查数据</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1175726457","media":"Market Watch","summary":"It’s an urgent question, since the Citigroup Economic Surprise Index (CESI) has been negative for tw","content":"<p>It’s an urgent question, since the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/C\">Citigroup</a> Economic Surprise Index (CESI) has been negative for two months now, following an unbroken positive stretch for more than a year. The CESI measures the extent to which the latest economic news deviates from the Wall Street consensus. 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Its average over the last 18 years is 4.6.</p><p><blockquote>花旗集团经济意外指数(CESI)的最新读数为负29.2。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JE\">刚刚</a>10天前,它甚至更负面,为负61.7。过去 18 年的平均值为 4.6。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd20c01571a824c8113089a65b814bb3\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"471\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> There is no consensus among the advisers I monitor about what these latest readings mean. Some believe it’s good news, on the contrarian theory that the worse-than-expected news constitutes a“wall of worry”that the U.S. bull market can climb. Others argue that you can’t sugar-coat worse-than-expected economic news.</p><p><blockquote>我监控的顾问们对这些最新读数意味着什么没有达成共识。一些人认为这是个好消息,反向理论认为,比预期更糟糕的消息构成了美国牛市可能攀升的 “担忧之墙”。另一些人则认为,你不能粉饰比预期更糟糕的经济新闻。</blockquote></p><p> To help resolve their disagreement, I analyzed daily CESI data back to 2003. Specifically, I measured its correlation with the S&P 500’sSPX,+0.15%return over the subsequent month-, quarter-, six months, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> year. I came up with nothing that met traditional standards of statistical significance.</p><p><blockquote>为了帮助解决他们的分歧,我分析了2003年的每日CESI数据。具体来说,我测量了它与标普500 sSPX 的相关性,在接下来的一个月、一个季度、六个月的回报率为 +0.15%,以及<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">一</a>年。我没有想出任何符合传统统计显著性标准的东西。</blockquote></p><p> A summary of what I found is plotted in the chart below. Notice that the S&P 500’s average return is virtually the same regardless of whether the CESI is positive or negative, trending upward or downward.</p><p><blockquote>我的发现总结如下图所示。请注意,无论 CESI 是正还是负,标普500的平均回报率几乎相同,呈上升趋势或下降趋势。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65016b28c482526ac92a5d6035ba9ed9\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"471\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> These findings are not a criticism of the CESI itself. Citigroup created the index as a useful tool for foreign exchange traders.Citigroup has saidthat the CESI “is a perfect example of unique proprietary design which has almost no bearing on those who discuss it… It was not meant to be used for stock prices.”</p><p><blockquote>这些发现并不是对CESI本身的批评。花旗集团创建该指数是为了给外汇交易者提供一个有用的工具。花旗集团表示,CESI“是一个独特的专有设计的完美例子,它对讨论它的人几乎没有任何影响……它并不打算用于股票价格。”</blockquote></p><p> There’s a broader lesson here for us to learn as well: We need to subject our intuitions to empirical reality checks. 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So double-check the data before you buy or sell<blockquote>观点: 市场分析师无法就股市下一步走势达成一致。因此,在购买或出售之前,请仔细检查数据</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Market Watch</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-09-26 11:25</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>It’s an urgent question, since the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/C\">Citigroup</a> Economic Surprise Index (CESI) has been negative for two months now, following an unbroken positive stretch for more than a year. The CESI measures the extent to which the latest economic news deviates from the Wall Street consensus. The past two months of consistently negative CESI readings therefore mean that the economic news, on balance, has been worse than expected.</p><p><blockquote>这是一个紧迫的问题,因为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/C\">花旗集团</a>经济意外指数(CESI)在连续上涨一年多后,已经连续两个月为负。CESI衡量最新经济新闻偏离华尔街共识的程度。因此,过去两个月持续为负的 CESI 读数意味着总体而言,经济消息比预期更糟。</blockquote></p><p> Is it good news or bad for stock investors that recent U.S. economic news releases have been significantly worse than expected?</p><p><blockquote>对于股票投资者来说,最近发布的美国经济新闻明显差于预期,这是好消息还是坏消息?</blockquote></p><p> The latest reading from the Citigroup Economic Surprise Index (CESI) is minus 29.2. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JE\">Just</a> 10 days ago it was even more negative, at minus 61.7. Its average over the last 18 years is 4.6.</p><p><blockquote>花旗集团经济意外指数(CESI)的最新读数为负29.2。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JE\">刚刚</a>10天前,它甚至更负面,为负61.7。过去 18 年的平均值为 4.6。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd20c01571a824c8113089a65b814bb3\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"471\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> There is no consensus among the advisers I monitor about what these latest readings mean. Some believe it’s good news, on the contrarian theory that the worse-than-expected news constitutes a“wall of worry”that the U.S. bull market can climb. Others argue that you can’t sugar-coat worse-than-expected economic news.</p><p><blockquote>我监控的顾问们对这些最新读数意味着什么没有达成共识。一些人认为这是个好消息,反向理论认为,比预期更糟糕的消息构成了美国牛市可能攀升的 “担忧之墙”。另一些人则认为,你不能粉饰比预期更糟糕的经济新闻。</blockquote></p><p> To help resolve their disagreement, I analyzed daily CESI data back to 2003. Specifically, I measured its correlation with the S&P 500’sSPX,+0.15%return over the subsequent month-, quarter-, six months, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">one</a> year. I came up with nothing that met traditional standards of statistical significance.</p><p><blockquote>为了帮助解决他们的分歧,我分析了2003年的每日CESI数据。具体来说,我测量了它与标普500 sSPX 的相关性,在接下来的一个月、一个季度、六个月的回报率为 +0.15%,以及<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AONE.U\">一</a>年。我没有想出任何符合传统统计显著性标准的东西。</blockquote></p><p> A summary of what I found is plotted in the chart below. Notice that the S&P 500’s average return is virtually the same regardless of whether the CESI is positive or negative, trending upward or downward.</p><p><blockquote>我的发现总结如下图所示。请注意,无论 CESI 是正还是负,标普500的平均回报率几乎相同,呈上升趋势或下降趋势。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65016b28c482526ac92a5d6035ba9ed9\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"471\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> These findings are not a criticism of the CESI itself. Citigroup created the index as a useful tool for foreign exchange traders.Citigroup has saidthat the CESI “is a perfect example of unique proprietary design which has almost no bearing on those who discuss it… It was not meant to be used for stock prices.”</p><p><blockquote>这些发现并不是对CESI本身的批评。花旗集团创建该指数是为了给外汇交易者提供一个有用的工具。花旗集团表示,CESI“是一个独特的专有设计的完美例子,它对讨论它的人几乎没有任何影响……它并不打算用于股票价格。”</blockquote></p><p> There’s a broader lesson here for us to learn as well: We need to subject our intuitions to empirical reality checks. That’s especially important when our hunches seem so obviously true — as is the case when it comes to whether the economic news is coming in better or worse than expected. Stock market history is filled with expectations that were guaranteed to happen but which did not.</p><p><blockquote>这里还有一个更广泛的教训需要我们学习: 我们需要让直觉接受经验现实的检验。当我们的预感似乎如此明显地正确时,这一点就显得尤为重要--当经济消息的到来是好于还是坏于预期时也是如此。股市历史充满了保证会发生但不会发生的预期。</blockquote></p><p> It can be tedious plowing through huge databases to see if a pattern really exists. But it’s worth the effort. Though being statistically rigorous does not guarantee that you will beat the market, you most assuredly will lose to the market if you’re statistically sloppy and inconsistent.</p><p><blockquote>翻阅庞大的数据库来查看某种模式是否真的存在可能会很乏味。但努力是值得的。虽然严格的统计数据并不能保证你能跑赢市场,但如果你在统计数据上马虎、前后矛盾,你肯定会输给市场。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/market-analysts-cant-agree-on-where-stocks-are-going-next-so-double-check-the-data-before-you-buy-or-sell-11632447577?mod=home-page\">Market Watch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/market-analysts-cant-agree-on-where-stocks-are-going-next-so-double-check-the-data-before-you-buy-or-sell-11632447577?mod=home-page","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1175726457","content_text":"It’s an urgent question, since the Citigroup Economic Surprise Index (CESI) has been negative for two months now, following an unbroken positive stretch for more than a year. The CESI measures the extent to which the latest economic news deviates from the Wall Street consensus. The past two months of consistently negative CESI readings therefore mean that the economic news, on balance, has been worse than expected.\nIs it good news or bad for stock investors that recent U.S. economic news releases have been significantly worse than expected?\nThe latest reading from the Citigroup Economic Surprise Index (CESI) is minus 29.2. Just 10 days ago it was even more negative, at minus 61.7. Its average over the last 18 years is 4.6.\n\nThere is no consensus among the advisers I monitor about what these latest readings mean. Some believe it’s good news, on the contrarian theory that the worse-than-expected news constitutes a“wall of worry”that the U.S. bull market can climb. Others argue that you can’t sugar-coat worse-than-expected economic news.\nTo help resolve their disagreement, I analyzed daily CESI data back to 2003. Specifically, I measured its correlation with the S&P 500’sSPX,+0.15%return over the subsequent month-, quarter-, six months, and one year. I came up with nothing that met traditional standards of statistical significance.\nA summary of what I found is plotted in the chart below. Notice that the S&P 500’s average return is virtually the same regardless of whether the CESI is positive or negative, trending upward or downward.\n\nThese findings are not a criticism of the CESI itself. Citigroup created the index as a useful tool for foreign exchange traders.Citigroup has saidthat the CESI “is a perfect example of unique proprietary design which has almost no bearing on those who discuss it… It was not meant to be used for stock prices.”\nThere’s a broader lesson here for us to learn as well: We need to subject our intuitions to empirical reality checks. That’s especially important when our hunches seem so obviously true — as is the case when it comes to whether the economic news is coming in better or worse than expected. Stock market history is filled with expectations that were guaranteed to happen but which did not.\nIt can be tedious plowing through huge databases to see if a pattern really exists. But it’s worth the effort. 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