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2019-05-14
$二倍做多VIX波动率指数短期期权ETN(TVIX)$ 以前为什么有过50多万的价格？
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爱生活的蓝杰
2019-05-14
爱生活的蓝杰
损耗太大！
举个例子：你本金1万
今天涨20%，明天跌20%
那么9600元，也就是2天时间，你放那不动就亏了4%
yuanday
:
应该不是这个原因，因为你说的对所有股票都适用，但是别的股票却不是这样。VIX可能本质上是一个期权，时间价值的损耗是主要原因。
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大剑仙
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做空最多也就能挣一股的钱。。。50w那是合股。。。
T4856905
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是损耗，但是不是你这么解释的，你说的是在有杠杆的情况下，加倍ETF的杠杆损耗，同时还有展期损耗和ETF管理费。
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[笑哭][鼓掌][鼓掌][鼓掌]
只买指数基金
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我发现你智商有问题
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阿文顽股
2019-05-14
阿文顽股
因為漲跌損耗且多年是牛市，造成股價需要合股避免歸零或價格過低，還原到過去就是價格倍數成長，合股如附圖！這樣理解對嗎？
阿文顽股
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有槓桿就一定有耗損，只是這檔起伏大可以忽略不計
只买指数基金
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取经
:
就是合股的，有个屁的损耗
取经
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$短期VIX期货ETN(VXX)$ 应该没亏损耗吧？
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