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半仓仙

弱水三千，只取一瓢饮，切记克小贪，方能助大成。原则底线要坚守，持股半仓做散仙，持币半仓做枪手，持股不错过上涨，持币不错过下跌，时刻把握主动权，子弹在手莫心慌。

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2023-11-09

子品牌还没开始，就结束了

蔚来子品牌阿尔卑斯已开始裁员，被曝或不再是独立项目

2023-08-18

理想🐮

小鹏汽车盘前跌超7%，Q2营收同比下降31.9%

2023-08-10

$蔚来-SW(09866)$ $理想汽车-W(02015)$ $小鹏汽车-W(09868)$ 鹏子和斌子看着想子牛逼的财报以及大跌的股价，不由的瑟瑟发抖，这财报还大跌啊，那我俩岂不是要迎来暴跌啦

2023-08-10

$理想汽车(LI)$ $蔚来(NIO)$ $小鹏汽车(XPEV)$ 鹏子和斌子看着想子牛逼的财报以及大跌的股价，不由的瑟瑟发抖，这财报还大跌啊，那我俩岂不是要迎来暴跌啦

2021-08-04

企业是元凶，家长是帮凶

腾讯搞了4年游戏防沉迷，究竟防住了谁？

2021-02-04

$游戏驿站(GME)$$AMC院线(AMC)$马上过年了，好好睡个觉它不香么？

2021-02-02

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$太对不起今天的大盘了[笑哭]

2021-02-02

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$这货咋每次都超预期，每次都跌啊？[笑哭]

2021-02-02

$游戏驿站(GME)$$AMC院线(AMC)$人家都跳白银了，还有人在这儿趴着

2021-01-28

$游戏驿站(GME)$一般散户就悠着点吧，要不然死都不知道怎么死的

2020-11-27

$理想汽车(LI)$大单、中单、小单、净额全在流出，破5日去20日

2020-11-23

$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$$理想汽车(LI)$$蔚来(NIO)$盘前大涨，怕是盘中要砸了

2020-11-14

$蔚来(NIO)$涨回去，狠狠的扇香橼一巴掌。这可是国产汽车的未来啊

2020-11-14

$蔚来(NIO)$再给大家上演个奇迹，重新拉回54

2020-11-13

$理想汽车(LI)$真尼玛对不起这财报

2020-11-13

$蔚来(NIO)$大家都知道泡沫，可跌怎么也得等到蔚来财报后啊。让我们一起拉爆香橼。

2020-11-13

$理想汽车(LI)$大哥，小鹏财报，你疯涨。自己财报到了再涨涨呗。香橼看空的是蔚来，你莫怕啊，就算跌也得等蔚来财报后啊

2020-11-09

$纳斯达克(.IXIC)$这走势，尾盘翻红就搞笑了

2020-11-09

$道琼斯(.DJI)$好一个超级高开低走，尾盘如果翻红就搞笑了

2020-11-02

$苹果(AAPL)$垃圾

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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>民意对游戏公司显得比较宽容，但面对媒体的质疑，<b>腾讯和网易均在当天就给予了回应。</b></p>\n<p>腾讯表示，将从《王者荣耀》试点，逐步面向全线游戏推出包括更严厉的未成年用户在线时长限制、禁止未满12周岁未成年人在游戏内消费、打击身份冒用、打击作弊等措施，同时还呼吁行业讨论全面禁止未满12周岁未成年人进入游戏的可行性。</p>\n<p>网易启动了暑期青少年网络环境整治，不仅升级了防沉迷系统，还将加强游戏内容相关的其他平台的审核，同时还加大对未成年游戏消费的干预力度，坚决清理游戏内的网络欺凌和暴力等行为。</p>\n<p>这些并不是新的措施，只是在之前的基础上更严厉的措施，<b>本质依然是没有任何有效的限制措施</b>，阻止未成年人沉迷游戏以及在游戏中消费。</p>\n<p>消费者投诉平台黑猫上有多则在7月份出现的投诉，都与腾讯旗下的《王者荣耀》和《和平精英》有关系。</p>\n<p>第一个投诉是在7月11日的，投诉人的孩子15岁，在《王者荣耀》充值了6000多元。家长发现后向腾讯申请退款，而腾讯只退了近90天充值的500元。投诉人提供的截图显示，最早的一笔充值是在2018年12月。</p>\n<p>第二则投诉发生在7月12日。投诉人的孩子12岁，以写作业需要用手机为由拿到手机后偷玩《王者荣耀》和《和平精英》，在几个月的时间里充值了大约5000元。家长发现后向腾讯申请退款被拒。投诉人直指腾讯服务态度差，故意拖延。</p>\n<p>第三则投诉发生在7月20日，投诉人亲戚的孩子用投诉人的手机玩《和平精英》，充值了648元购买点券。投诉人发现后要求腾讯退款，遭到腾讯以“非监护人”为由拒绝，投诉人找到监护人申请退款后，依然被拒。</p>\n<p>就在四年前的2017年的7月，因为一篇小学生作文《我眼中的荆轲》，人民日报与人民网在9天内连发五篇文章，质疑腾讯的游戏影响未成年人的成长。新华社也在4天内连发三篇文章，批判腾讯及《王者荣耀》。</p>\n<p>当时，<b>《王者荣耀》就已经被指责为“精神鸦片”、“王者农药”</b>。</p>\n<p>为了应对舆论危机，腾讯公司首席执行官马化腾在当年7月14日做客人民网。腾讯也在当年的7月4日上线试运行“《王者荣耀》健康系统”，并在一周后完成升级，限制12周岁以下未成年用户的游戏时间。7月18日，该系统正式上线。</p>\n<p>此后，腾讯的未成年防沉迷系统不断升级，并在2020年升级至3.0阶段，专门针对“孩子冒用家长身份信息绕过监管”的问题，开始扩大人脸识别技术应用范围，对疑似未成年人的用户进行甄别。</p>\n<p>但一起又一起的案例又说明，<b>腾讯所谓的未成年保护体系至今没有起到实质性的作用</b>，甚至是形同虚设，沉迷游戏、大额充值的情况普遍存在。并且，<b>腾讯的客服水平也丝毫没有变化</b>，对客诉的处理态度与冰冷的<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300024\">机器人</a>无异。</p>\n<p>腾讯搞了四年的防沉迷，究竟防住了什么？</p>\n<p><b>游戏是现金奶牛，喂肥了腾讯</b></p>\n<p>网络游戏是腾讯的支柱收入。即便是腾讯已经拥抱产业互联网几乎三年之久，也依然没有改变游戏业务在腾讯中的地位。</p>\n<p>腾讯的财报显示，2018年第四季度，也是腾讯“930”组织架构改革后的第一个季度，腾讯网络游戏业务的收入为241.99亿元，在季度营收中占比为28.5%。</p>\n<p>而到了2021年第一季度，腾讯的网络游戏业务收入为436亿元，在季度总营收的占比为32.2%，是腾讯季度营收最高的业务板块。</p>\n<p>易观数据显示，2020年上半年，我国游戏市场份额排名前两位的是腾讯和网易，占比分别为54.46%和15.29%；2020年全年，腾讯的游戏业务收入为1561亿元，比排在第二名的网易高出了1015亿元。</p>\n<p><b>独霸中国游戏市场的头把交椅，腾讯依然对游戏感到很焦虑，很饥渴。</b></p>\n<p>原因之一是莉莉丝、米哈游等中小游戏公司的崛起，在细分品类上击败了腾讯；其二则是字节跳动、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">阿里巴巴</a>等企业加大了对游戏业务的投入，希望能从游戏市场分一杯羹。</p>\n<p>一位来自腾讯投资部门的人士则说，根本的原因，还是<b>腾讯近几年在游戏上缺乏亮点</b>，除了《王者荣耀》，就只剩下《和平精英》，但<b>游戏的生命周期有限</b>。</p>\n<p>在过去五六年的时间，移动游戏市场的霸主始终是《王者荣耀》，即使是《和平精英》也没有改变这个局面。对于腾讯来说，问题就在于，<b>如果《王者荣耀》不行了，面对竞争对手，该拿什么稳住局面。</b></p>\n<p>2021年上半年，腾讯加大了在游戏领域的投资。<b>#腾讯平均7天投资一家游戏公司#一度登上微博热搜。</b>据公开信息的统计，腾讯于2021上半年集中投资了27家游戏公司，相当于平均7天就投资一家。</p>\n<p>但腾讯的投资力度远不止于此。有媒体统计，<b>2021上半年“腾讯投资”参与投资的游戏公司多达49家</b>，相当于平均每4天就出手投资一家游戏公司。“虽然我们也在看消费、企业服务，但重心还是在游戏投资上，今年上半年基本天天都有项目过会。”前述腾讯投资的人士说。</p>\n<p>在2021年第一季度财报中，腾讯也透露正在增加对游戏研发的投资，尤其是能够吸引全球用户的大型及高工业化水准游戏。此外，腾讯也正在进一步投资于能服务更多不同目标受众的新游戏类型，建立其IP和跨媒体联动，以及投资于云游戏等先进技术以提供下一代游戏体验。</p>\n<p><b>孩子沉迷，也非企业全责</b></p>\n<p>保护未成年人的健康成长，是全社会的共同责任。防止未成年人沉迷游戏，是保护未成年人健康成长的重要举措，作为游戏开发的主体，企业应该承担重要责任。</p>\n<p>从新浪科技的网络调查来看，普遍的认知是，防止未成年人沉迷游戏，非企业全责。</p>\n<p>新浪科技就未成年人沉迷游戏采访了多位家长，这些家长的共同观点是，未成年人对游戏的沉迷于对短视频的沉迷，本质上一样，原因无外乎以下几点：</p>\n<p><b>第一，这是未成年人社交的需求</b>。不管是在学校还是在社区生活中，未成年人的社交话题多与玩乐有关，这离不开游戏和短视频；</p>\n<p><b>第二，这是未成年人攀比的需求</b>。很多家长认为，正如儿童时期看到别的小朋友有玩具，自己就想买一样，很多未成年人是看到别人玩，自己也要玩，这样才能显示自己“拥有”。而充值一事，多数也是源自于攀比心理；</p>\n<p><b>第三，未成年人缺乏健康的娱乐内容和环境</b>。在大城市中，未成年人的时间大多用来学习、补习，城市缺乏多样化的娱乐设施和娱乐内容，很多未成年人就更喜欢举手可得的游戏、短视频。在小城市，娱乐基础设施更加缺乏，沉迷的现象更加普遍；</p>\n<p>最后，这也是一部分<b>家长的慵懒、无奈</b>。很多家长忙于工作，很多时候只能用短视频、游戏来“粗暴”安置未成年人，疏于管理与引导。</p>\n<p>反过来说，保护未成年人的健康成长，游戏平台应该承担主体责任之外，也离不开家长的管理与引导，更离不开社会营造的良好环境。这是一个事关乎全社会的命题，绝非一家之责。</p>\n<p><b>结语</b></p>\n<p><b>腾讯一方面在游戏领域维持雄心勃勃的投资，另外一方面则努力凸显不依赖未成年人的决心</b>。在2020年第四季度的财报上，腾讯首度披露了两个数据——18岁以下用户仅占腾讯在中国内地市场游戏总流水的6%，16岁以下用户仅占3.2%。</p>\n<p>以2020年四季度腾讯网络游戏业务在中国内地约300亿元的收入来计算，这两个数据分别是18亿元和9.6亿元。</p>\n<p>即使换算为一年72亿元，这部分收入在腾讯超过4800亿元的年营收面前，也几乎不值一提。</p>\n<p>那么，作为游戏领域的巨无霸，如果腾讯想摆脱“荼毒”未成年人的坏名声，就别“假装”呼吁了。不如直接禁止12周岁以下未成年人玩《王者荣耀》、《和平精英》等氪金竞技游戏，多多开发益智游戏。</p>","source":"sina_tech","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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