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炒股的小学生

02-11

之前苹果不是说要和字节和腾讯合作吗？股市里的消息就没有一句实话

市场消息：苹果和阿里巴巴将合作为中国iPhone用户开发AI功能

炒股的小学生

2023-11-20

$恒生指数主连 2311(HSImain)$ 你踏马的最近是涨疯了吧

炒股的小学生

2023-01-09

那还有人买吗[开心]

小米集团涨超8%！小米汽车正讨论定价区间，手机高端化持续推进

炒股的小学生

2022-12-06

这篇文章不错，转发给大家看看

@话题虎:美股大盘下挫，有股悄悄反弹50%！如何投资布局？

炒股的小学生

2022-04-27

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$真是烂到家了

炒股的小学生

2021-10-22

$泡泡玛特(09992)$**了吧

炒股的小学生

2021-06-11

$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$真特么s b啊，横盘这么久

炒股的小学生

2021-06-03

$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$真特么**啊

炒股的小学生

2021-05-25

$猫眼娱乐(01896)$这货咋这么**啊

炒股的小学生

2021-05-25

真**啊！

炒股的小学生

2021-03-30

别特么预测了，还未来15天内，你当初也是这么说猫眼的，你看看那货成什么样子了，别人涨，它就在那里趴着

大摩：料泡泡玛特(9992.HK)股价未来15日内将升

炒股的小学生

2021-03-24

不看好去做空啊！

2021审判日？为什么不看好股市及商品超级周期

炒股的小学生

2021-03-11

la ji 的玩意儿

炒股的小学生

2021-03-03

$猫眼娱乐(01896)$涨2个点，第二天就跌4个点，也就你傻吊能干出来

炒股的小学生

2021-03-02

你到底咋回事儿啊，**了吧

炒股的小学生

2021-02-26

$猫眼娱乐(01896)$失望透顶

炒股的小学生

2021-02-17

$猫眼娱乐(01896)$为啥你就不敢涨呢，畏畏缩缩的

炒股的小学生

2021-02-16

高开低走，**

炒股的小学生

2021-02-16

$猫眼娱乐(01896)$真特么不要脸

炒股的小学生

2021-01-19

猫眼**了吧，从七个点跌倒一个点，能不能TM正常一点啊

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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>另外，本轮商品上涨，主要由于石油和铜上涨，但</p><ul><li><p>石油涨价因为供给侧；</p></li><li><p>铜，我们看到有类似GME的gamma squeeze，美股，A股，铜期货...的跨市从虚拟向实体操纵价格，做局的嫌疑。</p></li></ul><p>这2个品种的内在逻辑无法完成领导商品牛市。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/451727453c577f905b52af9a4a4b56b6\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"602\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/816b17c9ab75a6ef70e02a258d1697d5\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"601\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><b>为什么不看好化工龙头</b></p><p>去年，驱动国内商品牛市有很多偶然因素：</p><p>2020商品上涨主要基于 —— 全球央行放水 x 中国复工/苏 x 订单流向中国 x 欧洲居家办公导致的买房和装修、家电需求 x 疫苗后复工强预期 —— 这些因素具备高度的偶然性，短期性，无法长期复制；长期上涨需要经济和消费需求实质性改善，我们目前没看到。</p><p>化工龙头去年享受了低油价，和美国去年石化产能被疫情冲击。这两个因素在今年都不存在。尤其美国复工，对国内化工是利空，而不是利多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/026025199f3a4dae623db7c47c45afc8\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/641302e4981a313c34bf19ac25ebc2ae\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"603\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><b>为什么港股有风险</b></p><p>年后的港股行情实际还是恒生科技股驱动，主要是南下抱团的懒惰思维。重夺港股定价权，是善良的价值投资者的一厢情愿。</p><p>那么，港股实际同时暴露在四大风险：</p><ul><li><p>反垄断</p></li><li><p>茅指数联动</p></li><li><p>通胀预期和美债利率上涨</p></li><li><p>美元升值</p></li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a33d97c677841a52863d8a370d0a9486\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"606\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>综上，2021年，无论美股，A股，港股，都和2018年非常相似。但鉴于现在的高层领导强大的纠错能力，而且早已提前预警，并且要经济维稳、金融维稳；2021，不太可能完全复制2018。</p><p><b>Gamma Squeeze,&nbsp;散户，SPAC，ARK,&nbsp;网红基金</b></p><p>Mizuho Securities is the latest to push this idea, with a survey suggesting that 10% of the $380 billion in stimulus windfalls will be invested in stocks and bitcoin.&nbsp;That, according to Wall Street, means that about $40 billion in extra money will “come into the stock market,” driving it higher.&nbsp;Recently Deutsche Bank estimated young individual investors were ready to pour $170 billion into the market.&nbsp;—— 摘自MarketWatch</p><p>我们去年分析过，ARK去年业绩很大程度上，得益于</p><p>①0利率和负利率盛行，导致资金对成长股和中小盘股的追捧；</p><p>②疫情实际 =&nbsp;大自然的供给侧改革，摧枯拉朽了受制于封城的旧经济 ——&nbsp;对科技互联网是天上掉馅饼；</p><p>③Tesla高度暴露，但Tesla表现实际大部分来源于逼空效果，和空头减仓有高度的正相关性 —— Tesla股票有一定的金融资产属性，某种程度上，它和Bitcoin很类似，都是资金抱团的结果。</p><p>④中小盘暴露和低质量暴露：ARK持有大量中小盘股和资产负债表弱的股票。这其实得益于低利率催化了市场参与者的风险偏好，和散户羊群的偏好高度重叠。</p><p>⑤AUM扩张+散户跟踪→反身效应：ARK由于今年的超群业绩，导致资金流入不断加速，形成了正反馈效果 ——&nbsp;后入的资金推动持仓进入正反馈。另外，由于ARK的基金持仓透明公布，吸引了众多散户跟风，又加强了正反馈。</p><p>年初，A股的网红基金其实也具备ARK的特征，实际大部分是类被动risk premia风格因子的被动投资，他们得益于央行放水的大beta，alpha含量并不高。而且散户的追涨网红基金，实际等同于散户在GME期权上long gamma，短期有大量的杠杆效应。他们实际不是价值投资，而是在和时间，和内在价值作对，想从未来攫取暴利，短期套现。</p><p>ARK目前不断抛出大盘股，买入小盘股，作最后一搏。但是我们观测到:</p><ul><li><p>ARK的交易量明显下降，</p></li><li><p>看涨期权市场已经显著萎缩 = 散户资产去gamma，去杠杆，缩水，Biden发完补助，我们并没观测到市场预期的散户大军的进场。</p></li><li><p>本周，美债收益率下降，一线科技股大幅反弹，但gamma squeeze标的却出现暴跌现象（讽刺的是，A股的一线龙头 —— 茅指数在和美国抱团票 —— 垃圾股，二线科技股共振）</p></li></ul><p>昨晚，Yellen和Powell又双双谈到目前存在资产泡沫（US Treasury Sec. Yellen: Asset Valuations Are High By Historical Measures）。</p><p>一场金融\"马陵道\"围剿的天时，地利，人和，也许都具备了。我们“慭慭然”，小心观测。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c594d0f35d546b7e772525962725ebdb\" tg-width=\"491\" tg-height=\"377\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cb27b96b2dec4cfd8ba23c1c66febb19\" tg-width=\"490\" tg-height=\"376\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>西方传说上帝会在审判日那天赏善罚恶；</p><p>我们并不预期2021一定是大熊市，</p><p>但2021很可能是宏观层面均值回归的一年</p><p>—— 表现在各个层面：</p><p>时间，</p><p>地域，</p><p>供应链，</p><p>估值，</p><p>风格，</p><p>人性，</p><p>欲念，</p><p>地球引力...</p><p>“潮退了，你才知道谁在裸泳。”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6c514a790774c86cfa09ba0d39d7de12\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"565\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>图片：visualcapitalist.com</p>","source":"lsy1584520488112","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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就像令狐冲被一群庸医用外力压制的内疾 —— 理论上会向后延伸分布，除非经济会快速繁荣（这非常不现实）。为什么看空新兴市场，尤其土耳其，拉美股汇双杀美债收益率是全球资产定价的锚。无论你如何否认外力的作用，美国在全球的金融影响力目前无人匹敌。另外，2016年之后的广义价值投资，茅指数崛起，其实也是A股对外资开放后，投资风格机构化，长期化，被动化，基本面驱动的过程。我个人认为，在内部资产虚火旺盛，充斥泡沫，过度高估（万得全A-ex银行石化PE达到41倍）的时候，外部因素影响一定超过内部因素，从全球宏观的角度全方位评估风险。外部任何风吹草动都可能是压倒骆驼的稻草。美元泛滥，发达国家0/负利率，在去年推动了全球资产泡沫，那么当美债利率上涨的时候，其实就是每个国家的“资产管理人”要面临一定hurdle rate才能收业绩费的考核 —— 潮退了，我们才知道谁没游泳。我们之前选了历史上一贯有债务危机传统的土耳其，拉美作为做空标的，近期暴跌之前，他们都面临疫情恶化，或国内恶性通胀的危险。作为石油产出国，巴西甚至害怕石油涨价恶化通胀，撤了巴西石油公司的CEO，通胀风险可见一斑。符合这2个标准的还有印度，俄罗斯，但因为：前者的种姓制度根本忽略底层的“人”的生死，没有道德和经济包袱，疫情对他们来说就像一场内部优胜劣汰，所以从资产上很难观测波动；而后者由于受益于石油上涨，而且前几年未雨绸缪，黄金储备高—— 所以这2个做空逻辑都有瑕疵。为了对冲EM风险，我们选择了多东亚/空土耳其和拉美。和Druckenmiller的观点一样，我们从去年在EM相对看好东亚 —— 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referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>另外，本轮商品上涨，主要由于石油和铜上涨，但</p><ul><li><p>石油涨价因为供给侧；</p></li><li><p>铜，我们看到有类似GME的gamma squeeze，美股，A股，铜期货...的跨市从虚拟向实体操纵价格，做局的嫌疑。</p></li></ul><p>这2个品种的内在逻辑无法完成领导商品牛市。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/451727453c577f905b52af9a4a4b56b6\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"602\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/816b17c9ab75a6ef70e02a258d1697d5\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"601\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><b>为什么不看好化工龙头</b></p><p>去年，驱动国内商品牛市有很多偶然因素：</p><p>2020商品上涨主要基于 —— 全球央行放水 x 中国复工/苏 x 订单流向中国 x 欧洲居家办公导致的买房和装修、家电需求 x 疫苗后复工强预期 —— 这些因素具备高度的偶然性，短期性，无法长期复制；长期上涨需要经济和消费需求实质性改善，我们目前没看到。</p><p>化工龙头去年享受了低油价，和美国去年石化产能被疫情冲击。这两个因素在今年都不存在。尤其美国复工，对国内化工是利空，而不是利多。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/026025199f3a4dae623db7c47c45afc8\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"609\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/641302e4981a313c34bf19ac25ebc2ae\" tg-width=\"1080\" 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摘自MarketWatch</p><p>我们去年分析过，ARK去年业绩很大程度上，得益于</p><p>①0利率和负利率盛行，导致资金对成长股和中小盘股的追捧；</p><p>②疫情实际 =&nbsp;大自然的供给侧改革，摧枯拉朽了受制于封城的旧经济 ——&nbsp;对科技互联网是天上掉馅饼；</p><p>③Tesla高度暴露，但Tesla表现实际大部分来源于逼空效果，和空头减仓有高度的正相关性 —— Tesla股票有一定的金融资产属性，某种程度上，它和Bitcoin很类似，都是资金抱团的结果。</p><p>④中小盘暴露和低质量暴露：ARK持有大量中小盘股和资产负债表弱的股票。这其实得益于低利率催化了市场参与者的风险偏好，和散户羊群的偏好高度重叠。</p><p>⑤AUM扩张+散户跟踪→反身效应：ARK由于今年的超群业绩，导致资金流入不断加速，形成了正反馈效果 ——&nbsp;后入的资金推动持仓进入正反馈。另外，由于ARK的基金持仓透明公布，吸引了众多散户跟风，又加强了正反馈。</p><p>年初，A股的网红基金其实也具备ARK的特征，实际大部分是类被动risk premia风格因子的被动投资，他们得益于央行放水的大beta，alpha含量并不高。而且散户的追涨网红基金，实际等同于散户在GME期权上long gamma，短期有大量的杠杆效应。他们实际不是价值投资，而是在和时间，和内在价值作对，想从未来攫取暴利，短期套现。</p><p>ARK目前不断抛出大盘股，买入小盘股，作最后一搏。但是我们观测到:</p><ul><li><p>ARK的交易量明显下降，</p></li><li><p>看涨期权市场已经显著萎缩 = 散户资产去gamma，去杠杆，缩水，Biden发完补助，我们并没观测到市场预期的散户大军的进场。</p></li><li><p>本周，美债收益率下降，一线科技股大幅反弹，但gamma squeeze标的却出现暴跌现象（讽刺的是，A股的一线龙头 —— 茅指数在和美国抱团票 —— 垃圾股，二线科技股共振）</p></li></ul><p>昨晚，Yellen和Powell又双双谈到目前存在资产泡沫（US Treasury Sec. 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