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$蔚来(NIO.SI)$
已定新ES8
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2023-11-17
合股的决策失误让所有人全部巨亏!失误至极
贾跃亭旗下法拉第未来宣布推出AI产品FF aiPal Beta
CHINaNIO大赢家
2023-01-25
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
看看上20看看需要多久.希望这次黄冈和贾老板给点力赶紧量产!
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2023-01-18
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2023-01-17
家才是希望的地方!欢迎回家!
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2022-07-19
你知道个🐔🐔.
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2022-07-04
以全仓
蔚来月度交付创出新高,多家投行回应灰熊做空报告细节
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-05-28
支持蔚来相信未来!努力奋斗让家人和自己过上幸福的生活!
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-04-29
那不是工作服好吧,那是蔚来商城里面卖的,谁都可以买,99包邮呢
蔚来高管回应男子操作中控被骂 骂人者为穿其工作服的用户
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-04-28
$蔚来(NIO)$
转来转去还是相信蔚来!
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-03-23
再见.....你去发行吧
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-10
什么鬼
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-09
政策到了地方可能就变得消极
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-03
已经发完了,撤了吧、开始起飞了
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-03
准备起飞吧!!
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-01
散户全部挂500块
美国在线券商Robinhood更新了股票买入限制,其中将AMC院线的买入股数限制至10股、游戏驿站1股、高斯电子2股、诺基亚2000股
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-02-01
再次看到恶心🤢的一幕....
美国在线券商Robinhood更新了股票买入限制,其中将AMC院线的买入股数限制至10股、游戏驿站1股、高斯电子2股、诺基亚2000股
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-01-31
$高斯电子(KOSS)$
为什么高斯的期权找不着呢?是不是被劵商给封了?之前没注意啊,高斯持股比例个人非常多啊。下周坚持不卖....会不会飙到500?
CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-01-29
丑恶嘴脸
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CHINaNIO大赢家
2021-01-29
昨晚华尔街让全世界见证了你们丑恶无比的嘴脸!全世界的散户应该团结一致反击
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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/165b12286a8f720127d3bf35ce310e47\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"956\"></p><p><b>有意思的是,我们总计采访了 9 名蔚来的投资者,有 7 人是在 2019 年 9 月-11 月开始购买蔚来股票的,</b></p><p>为什么专门说这个?因为那时是蔚来股价最低迷的时候,这些标题可以帮你快速了解下蔚来当时的处境。</p><blockquote>命悬一线? 蔚来汽车股价从最高 13.8 美元跌至 1 美元红线!深夜突发!蔚来汽车又闪崩,离退市越来越近了?</blockquote><p>从采访来看,在最低迷时候购买蔚来股票,有信仰的成分——譬如坚信李斌一定行;「这样的良心车企如果不成长起来,国产车就真的没啥希望了」;也有理性分析的成分——没有比蔚来更有确定性的、护城河更深的低价股了;<b>还有深入调研后的判断:</b></p><blockquote>「App 外,亏损、裁员、融不到资,蔚来,似乎已经没有了未来。蔚来不行,大概已经是全世界的共识;App 内,买了蔚来汽车的人,对她爱得深沉。让人不禁感慨做蔚来车主,真是不容易。花了 40 多万,还要与全世界为敌。什么样的神仙产品可以具备这样对立的气质。」</blockquote><p>或许正因为如此,9 名受访者中除了一名做空蔚来的亏了钱,其他人的浮盈都非常可观。</p><p><b>+400% 都不算什么,到前天为止最多一个已经赚了过百万美金。</b></p><p>而让我没有想到的是,采访还没结束,蔚来股价昨晚又爆了,收盘 13.22 美金每股,最高冲到 13.77 美金每股,总市值快速逼近 150 亿美金,突破了千亿人民币大关。</p><p><b>今天盘前,蔚来股价再次大幅度上扬,突破了 14 美金每股,创下了新高。(截至我们写稿时为止)</b></p><p>从年初至今的涨幅来看,蔚来已经在全球汽车行业排在第二。截至昨晚,蔚来的涨幅是 228.85%,仅比特斯拉的 232.24% 少了不到 4 个百分点。</p><p>而对于这样的涨幅,一位被访者告诉我:</p><blockquote>「7 月 7 日蔚来股票成交量竟然冲到了全美第一,成交额全美第九。市场情绪过于火热,建议大家冷静。但不管怎么说,1 块多的蔚来回不去了。」</blockquote><p><b>好了,我的前言结束了,接着来看看这些蔚来小散、股东和空头们的故事吧。</b></p><p><b>一、蔚来前员工:还帮前员工赚钱,很够意思</b></p><p><b>1、@克拉拉 :当时熬的夜流的泪生的气都很值得</b></p><p>@克拉拉 女士是蔚来的前员工,目前依然还是「一枚新能源汽车市场汪。」「目前不是车主,将来会是。」</p><p>她发了一张图给我,目前浮盈大概是 +283%,但图就不放了。总而言之,今年她的本金已经 Double 了。</p><blockquote>「之前持有成本一块多,一番骚操作之后,变成了三块多,大家别学我。」</blockquote><p>@克拉拉 说她第一次持有蔚来股票是入职蔚来半年后,但真正自己购买蔚来股票是在离职后的 2019 年11 月份。</p><p>原因则是因为「足够了解这家公司,无论在不在职,都值得购买。」</p><p>从购入蔚来股票到现在,@克拉拉 说她从来没有动摇过。</p><blockquote>「人生有幸目前为止一共遇见了美股四次熔断,熔断一次加仓一次,完全不顾家人当时让我割肉的劝阻,现在家人没人敢挑战我的持股地位了(骄傲脸)。当然,偶尔缺钱,想买个东西的时候,会换点小钱出来。」</blockquote><p>@克拉拉 觉得蔚来此前的股价波动很正常,因为她前一家公司也经历过这样的大波动,毕竟在市场里,每一片雪花都在勇闯天涯。但是,好公司,好业绩,好经营,好团队,好产品,都具备,但是股价不合理,这好像也不合逻辑。</p><p>「很开心蔚来等到了这股东风。当然万事具备的时候,其实还是需要一点东风的。所以审时度势的冷静,还是非常重要的。」</p><p>目前的蔚来,在她的看来是一家好公司。</p><p>「我记得我当时面试的时候说过:<b>自己想去一家中国的,能造出让 Top Gear 节目拿去测评或者录制节目的汽车公司</b>,很荣幸我加入到了。它的车,它的科技属性,这些仁者见仁,我只能说在我这里,我是认可的。」</p><p>@克拉拉 给自己的定义是「心态平和的小散」,个人的策略打法是躺着不动,和偶尔爬起来买个期权 call,赚点权利金或者价格合适就行权。</p><p>「好心态在这家事情上太重要了,就当作是种下的种子,和明天收获的惊喜好了。」</p><p>因为是前员工,我们还多问了@克拉拉了两道问题。</p><p><b>为什么离开蔚来?</b></p><p>@ 克拉拉 说,当时的判断,是觉得可能不适合自己发展,是有一些冲动的,而目前依旧在新能源行业。如果再次做判断,应该会更冷静的考虑,不会冲动做决定。</p><p><b>那是否后悔?</b></p><p><b>「有一点点。」</b>@克拉拉 说,蔚来经过了这些时间和这些功过,成为了更强大和更好的蔚来,「这也就说明当时熬的夜流的泪生的气都很值得啊」,而且经过这段时间的工作,她自己也成了更强大更爱思考和反思的人。</p><p>「换句话说,一个公司在员工离开之后还在帮员工赚钱,很够意思了啊。」</p><p><b>2、@Mr wang:那个晚上的李斌</b></p><p>@Mr wang 也是一名蔚来前员工。从事采购管理工作的他,还是一名蔚来 ES8 的车主,购车时间是 2019 年 1 月。</p><p>@Mr wang 没有发自己的盈亏截图,只是说了自己的持股成本——3.79 美金,目前赚了三倍到四倍。</p><p>他告诉我他是在 2019 年 10 月第一次购买的蔚来股票,当时的价格在 1.44 美金左右,</p><p>当时,他还没有离职。购买原因是因为他相信蔚来,觉得蔚来当时已经到了谷底,种种迹象更让他坚信蔚来一定可以起来。</p><p>由于玩过 A 股,他也是几进几出。「我一般上涨了 30%,就会卖掉一些,然后等回调再买进一些。」</p><p>让他印象最深刻是去年年底有一次蔚来股价从 2.4 美金涨到最高将近 4.8 美金 ,几乎一夜翻倍,「当时我一晚上没有睡觉。」</p><p>因而,他特别佩服前阵子那个晒出赚了 100 多万美金截图的人——「这哥们真沉得住气。」</p><p><b>而作为蔚来前员工,他到今天也依然认为蔚来会成为一家伟大的企业,因为它是一家有温度的企业。</b></p><p>「我当时看到心里酸了一下,很心疼斌哥。有这样的老板,我们也得有良心呀。」@Mr wang 在谈及了一张著名照片时这样说。</p><p>那张照片拍摄于去年蔚来公积金计划调整的前夜。</p><p>照片中,李斌一个人坐在一个空房间内,深夜默默地刷着手机。第二天消息传出,说李斌思考一整夜后,取消了公积金调整的计划。</p><p>@Mr wang 在电话中显得有些激动,随即吐槽了蔚来的人事,然后又说支撑他们去拼命的,很多时候就是这样一种信仰——「公司有再多问题,他相信李斌、力洪他们一定会帮基层员工说话。」</p><p><b>「深深遗憾自己没有机会陪着蔚来一起走下去。蔚来一定程度上颠覆了这个行业。」</b>@Mr wang 说如果蔚来还有工作机会,他还是想回去,随即又叹了口气,说估计不会有这样的机会了。</p><p><b>二、 蔚来车主:坚定持有看多 3-5 年</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7a04c795d14e25608ff893680cd645ba\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"540\"></p><p><b>3、悟空:蔚来必将伟大</b></p><p>作为蔚来创始版 1309 号车主,@悟空 是著名的蔚来铁粉。</p><p>早在蔚来上市时,他就和几名车友一起凑份子购买了蔚来股票,并决定之后不动直到 2020 年 12 月 31 日,「到时,不论什么价格,我们都售出!」</p><p>@悟空 说他第一届 NIO Day 开始,就对蔚来一见钟情、一见倾心。在很多自媒体写的蔚来文章下面, 他最喜欢的留言是:蔚来必将伟大。</p><p><b>「个人认为蔚来在 2020 年底的估价应该超 20 美金,乐观估计会到 50 美金!2021 年底乐观估计会到 100 美金!在 5 年内到达 500 美金!在 10 年内可以超过 1000 美金!」</b></p><p>至于是蔚来的股东、小散,还是蔚来的韭菜?</p><p>@悟空 的回答是:<b>大多数的蔚来车友认为,蔚来是和自己息息相关的一个公司;10% 的蔚来车友认为蔚来的兴荣就是和自己心情相关 ;1 % 的车友认为蔚来公司的成败比自己个人很多事情更重要,而他就是那属于 1% 的那一批。</b></p><p><b>4、老霍:我是小散不当精神股东</b></p><p>老霍是蔚来北京 RC 车友会的会长,知道的人很多,所以就不说他的综合盈利水平。</p><p>老霍第一次购买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 10 月 24 日。</p><blockquote>「当时觉得蔚来股价已经到底了,买点总不会亏,大不了就当支持蔚来了。持有是一直都持有,只不过买一点再卖一点。」</blockquote><p>当时的价格大概在 1.38 美金每股,而老霍跟朋友交流过后觉得必须坚持价值投资——「计划长期持有看 3-5 年。」</p><p>因此,中间虽然有波动但他从来没有动摇过,顶多做做短线,基本上短线有盈有亏,而且盈的比例还多点。</p><p>对于蔚来这家公司,他基本判断是蔚来的沉淀已经足够了,交付量也上来了,也开始省钱了,走到今天这一步,算是初步站稳了、能抵御一定的风险了。</p><p>「我觉得蔚来的车还有进步的空间,不是说性价比,而是说做工和品控方面还有待加强吧。另外我觉得科技这种东西,其实更应该融入生活,让人体会不出所谓的科技感,才是真的方便了大众。」老霍说蔚来的后续发展他是看好的,毕竟今天已经可以季度交付 1 万辆了,之后应该就是逐步毛利转正,现金流转正了,股价自然也会跟着涨。</p><p><b>至于是小散还是股东?老霍果断选了小散,「股东算不上」。而且,他觉得虽然蔚来有一堆精神股东了,但是精神股东永远不够客观。</b></p><p>「至于韭菜,也谈不上,毕竟买个车还赚钱了。。。还要啥自行车。」老霍说 看好一个行业,买了点自己熟知的这个行业的某一个企业的股票,体量又不大,充其量也就是个小散了。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f717cec006c51edf35822328ba00bd90\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1234\"></p><p><b>5、@石破天:良心车企也要搞好软件</b></p><p>来自互联网的@石破天 也是一名蔚来 ES8 的车主,目前他的蔚来股票盈利 179.2%,成本价是 4.37 美元。</p><p>作为 ES8 车主,他购买蔚来股票的时间比较早。</p><p>「第一次买是在 19 年 4 月,5.4 美元时候买入的。当时主要作为车主,感受到蔚来的车的确很有诚意。」@石破天说,<b>这样的良心车企如果不成长起来,国产车就真的没啥希望了。他看好蔚来的理念,一度也曾想入职蔚来。</b></p><p>不过,对于当前的股价,他觉得有点疯狂。</p><p>「之前一直看好到 10 美金,不过没想到这一天来得这么快。」<b>他甚至觉得蔚来现状还配不上这么疯狂的追捧,现状大涨感觉只是资本市场的游戏,大盘如此,蔚来本身该涨但短期内涨这么多有点飘了。</b></p><p>认为飘,主要原因在他认为蔚来在软件层面的进展太慢了。。</p><p>「不管是NP,还是舒适性功能,蔚来已经太久没给车主带来惊喜了,软件不断返工的问题,甚至让人觉得厌烦,并且似乎丝毫没有要改变的迹象。」</p><p>@石破天 说,虽然这并不妨碍他认为蔚来依旧是目前电动车第一梯队,甚至有更多的增长可能性。但「可能还是源于市场对新能源的接受度在提升,并不是因为蔚来本身做的更好了。」</p><p>他吐槽说近期他可能会更多关注蔚来股票。「毕竟让我赚钱了,从这个角度说,我是股东。」,但是对于车,尤其是软件,他也直接吐槽说在丧失耐心,恨其不争,「从这个角度看,我是韭菜。」</p><p><b>三、投资者: 深入调研才发现蔚来的特别</b></p><p><b>6、贝氪曼:Model 3 车主浮盈 55 万美金</b></p><p>某运营商产品经理@贝氪曼 并不是蔚来车主,目前开着一辆国产 Model 3 。</p><p>「因为我只开轿车,不开 SUV。等蔚来推出 ET7 或者 ET5 应该会买一辆。」</p><p>我看完他发来的浮盈截图后,<b>觉得他的确是「很有能力」买一辆。因为他的浮盈高达 55 万美金!而本金只有不到 15 万美金!</b></p><p>@贝氪曼 是在 2019 年 11 月开始购买蔚来股票的,当时的成本是 1.95 美金,之后换成了期权。「一直换仓,但从未下车,拿到现在。」</p><p>而作为特斯拉的粉丝,@贝氪曼 说自己开始并不了解蔚来这个品牌,但在微博上看到蔚来自燃、股价暴跌、资金流紧张等负面新闻后,他跑去研究了一段时间,结果发现这个公司是非常优质的投资标的。</p><p>因此,对于前夜的突破 12 美金,@贝氪曼 认为是「价值修复,早晚会来的。」</p><p>他说自己还是偏保守了,因为持仓期权是 7 月、8 月行权,行权价是 6-9 美金,而<b>「目前市面上没有比蔚来更有确定性的、护城河更深的低价股了。」</b></p><p>在他看来,蔚来的本质是电子消费品科技公司,和特斯拉一样区别于传统厂商。聚焦产品线、重视用户体验和产品力,确保每一款产品都是精品。</p><p><b>此外蔚来还有民族质造、民族汽车工业希望等属性加持,一开始的豪华定位有很深的护城河。</b></p><p>他甚至说如果蔚来顺利推出 BaaS、ET7、NOP、NP2 平台、ET5 发布后会一直上行。</p><p><b>「个人觉得市值不会低于戴姆勒汽车(453 亿美元)」</b></p><p><b>7、@朗爸 :赚了 100 万美金的个人投资者</b></p><p>@朗爸从事金融投资,并不是蔚来的车主,目前的持仓成本在 2.2 美金左右。</p><p>作为一名个人投资者,@朗爸 第一次买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 10 月,「尝试性投资,也带点风险投资。」</p><p>@朗爸 说蔚来是用户企业,这是它最宽的护城河。因此在持有蔚来股票这件事情上从来没有动摇过。</p><p><b>「在蔚来最艰难的时候买的,坚信蔚来不会破产,看好蔚来的车,看好李斌,好看蔚来的换电模式,10 万股,长期持有,不会抛。」</b></p><p>至于此前的股价波动,@朗爸 则觉得很正常:</p><blockquote>「去年年底的时候,市场对它的看法是破产退市。到现在能够活过来,而且前景非常好,这个 180 度转弯带来的股价自然也是 180 度转弯的。」</blockquote><p>我们最后问@朗爸,觉得自己是股东、小散还是韭菜。@朗爸 的回答是,亏了就是韭菜,赚了就是小散,赚大钱了就是股东</p><p><b>8、@听周小姐的魏先生:看了蔚来 App 决定下场</b></p><p>@听周小姐的魏先生 的本职工作是私募基金投资,2020 年 5 月购买的 蔚来 ES6。</p><p>他第一次购买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 9 月,「后来陆陆续续也有买一些。一直持有到现在。」持仓成本两块,目前大约翻了六倍。</p><p>他炒股有两个原则:</p><p><b> 1、不懂不做。</b></p><p>最好的选股方式,就是日常生活中点滴的积累与思考。咱们普通人投资股票,安安心心买自己日常生活中,熟悉、容易看懂的公司就好了。蔚来的车他试驾体验过之后觉得很不错,产品力很强,服务也很好,但舆论上却非常多的人在黑,股价也很萎靡。而他觉得一个好产品不会一直不被认可,值得入手。</p><p><b>2、好股好价。</b></p><p>蔚来去年的股价是真的低,一度接近退市临界点,低无可低了。</p><p>蔚来过去一年的股价波动,在他看来也非常正常:<b>事实上很多优秀企业的股价都不是一个线性上涨的曲线,而是在某一个时间段突然爆发。</b></p><p>真正炒股赚到钱的人,就是去买别人不知道它好但你知道、或者是别人都知道它好但你知道其实更好的公司。然后耐得住性子,长期持有,持续的跟踪和观察,只要公司优质,即便股价不动甚至下跌,都不妨碍你坚定持有,市场迟早也会认识到它价值。</p><p>「额外说几句,我和蔚来的相识,真的是缘分。」@听周小姐的魏先生 说因为职业关系,他常年和VC/PE打交道,公司在 2017 年合作了一支私募股权基金,管理人在 2017 年、2018 年投了 2 家后来在中国赫赫有名的公司——蔚来汽车、瑞幸咖啡。</p><p><b>而从一开始他就看好新能源赛道而非所谓互联网模式下的咖啡,在与客户的沟通中也是更推崇蔚来,谨慎对待瑞幸。</b></p><p>但讽刺的是,他不看好的瑞幸火箭上市,股价一路从 17 块涨到 50 块,而盛赞的蔚来股价却一路从 6 块跌到 1 块多。他不能理解,客户更不能理解,质疑声扑面而来。</p><p><b>但投资习惯告诉他,表面上买卖的是股票、基金,本质上交易的是彼此的理念与认知。</b></p><p>不调研就没有发言权,@听周小姐的魏先生 决定搜集第一手的蔚来资料,于是下载了 App 混迹在论坛中,换个视角看蔚来。</p><blockquote>魔幻的一幕出现了,App外,亏损、裁员、融不到资,蔚来,似乎已经没有了未来。蔚来不行,大概已经是全世界的共识。App内,买了蔚来汽车的人,对她爱得深沉。让人不禁感慨做蔚来车主,真是不容易。花了40多万,还要与全世界为敌。什么样的神仙产品可以具备这样对立的气质。</blockquote><p><b>「越研究越着迷,直到自己买了它家股票,成了蔚来车主。」</b></p><p>@听周小姐的魏先生 认为蔚来汽车界海底捞虽然的确名不虚传——从试驾到下定到提车,蔚来的服务都让他挑不出毛病。特别是买车之后比买车之前更热情这件事让人很受用——<b>但汽车是一个超大件耐用商品。如果只有服务,他是不会买单的。</b></p><p>真正让他下决心刷卡的,是它的产品力确实很强,内饰品质、全铝车身、车辆动态表现都很不错。作为一辆汽车,它非常优秀。</p><p><b>不过说起科技属性,@听周小姐的魏先生 觉得蔚来还有一些不足</b>——不管是自动驾驶、自动泊车还是人车交互,都还有很大提升空间,所以蔚来现在更像是传统燃油车走向智能电动车时代中的一个过度产品,它很好的平滑了这个发展曲线,但现在的它还称不上下一个时代的作品。</p><p>对于当前蔚来股价的飙升,@听周小姐的魏先生 提醒到:股价这种东西不好预判,昨天 7 月 7 日蔚来股票成交量竟然冲到了全美第一,成交额全美第九。</p><p><b>「市场情绪过于火热,建议大家冷静。但不管怎么说,1 块多的蔚来回不去了。」</b></p><p>至于到底是小散、股东还是韭菜。他的回答则是:</p><p>「我自己最认同的身份还是蔚来的车主,股票只是生活的一小部分,即便是买入蔚来的股票,也只是一笔普通的投资而已,如果一定要选一个,那就小散吧。」</p><p><b>四、 空头飞哥:蔚来车主的投资风向标</b></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b64712e50ce5fb2dc6f877f5f49e9d0e\" tg-width=\"320\" tg-height=\"270\"></p><p>我在群里说要采访蔚来的小散们时,有车友反驳说不如去采访蔚来的空头,甚至向我推荐了一位,说他在群里已经成为大家购买蔚来股票的风向标——<b>他买多时蔚来股票就跌,他做空时蔚来股票就涨。</b></p><p>在他的推荐上,我们联系上了「蔚来知名空头」@飞哥 。</p><p>@飞哥 说自己是酒吧系统研发公司的 CEO,还是蔚来 ES8 创始版车主。他发来了自己的持仓截图,显示目前亏损 1595.93 美金。</p><p><b>但是,跟他聊完后,我们觉得他其实是一名假空头。</b></p><p>@飞哥 告诉我们,他第一次购买蔚来股票是在去年 10 月 8 日,1.74 美金进的,当时是买涨。</p><blockquote>「当时我从来没有玩过股票,连国内 A 股这些都没有,完全是小白,是因为情怀去开了这个户头。」</blockquote><p>但当时买进后蔚来股票就一直跌。「好像跌到 1 快 2 左右,那时候都说它差点要退市。」然后,@飞哥 就依靠「从来没有过的技术」,「 1 快 2 去空它,然后就惨不忍睹。」</p><p>「为什么买空?其实都是群里车友的锅。」@飞哥 说车友们说他是一个方向标,就喜欢看他买空。因为他一买涨,蔚来股价就跌,他一买空,股价就涨。「所以他们一直就叫我去空,我就去空。」<b>以至于到现在,群里车友都觉得蔚来股价飞涨是@飞哥 的功劳。</b></p><p>特别有意思的是,@飞哥 说他做空也没有动摇过。原因则是「毕竟金额也不多,也才 1 万美金,没了就没了。」</p><p>他说更多是享受这个过程,「就是喜欢这种刺激挑战,喜欢这种起起落落,喜欢去卡它的关键点。所以我才经常去做空。」</p><p>他甚至还说他在某些关键点看得特别准,「就是几毛几分,我都能够精准到这个数。」</p><p>作为创始版 ES8 车主,@飞哥挺看好蔚来这家公司。因为本身就是车主,他也介绍好几位朋友购买了蔚来,并经常带着朋友们去体验蔚来,甚至还曾经开着 ES8 从潮州到重庆,再到阿坝州,「整趟旅途接近 1 万公里。」</p><p><b>「我觉得到年底,应该 17 块左右。」</b></p><p>这是一个假空头。</p>","source":"lsy1574414115752","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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又有题材可以写了。我原本不想说话。人老派,觉得媒体人不能在持有股票的情况下对企业说三道四,无论是好话还是坏话。所以,我们手头没有哪怕一股蔚来股票。你说我能说什么?但@多了,我还是回应了,于是就有了这篇「蔚来的小散、股东和空头们」,采访的就是那些在群里的人。有意思的是,我们总计采访了 9 名蔚来的投资者,有 7 人是在 2019 年 9 月-11 月开始购买蔚来股票的,为什么专门说这个?因为那时是蔚来股价最低迷的时候,这些标题可以帮你快速了解下蔚来当时的处境。命悬一线? 蔚来汽车股价从最高 13.8 美元跌至 1 美元红线!深夜突发!蔚来汽车又闪崩,离退市越来越近了?从采访来看,在最低迷时候购买蔚来股票,有信仰的成分——譬如坚信李斌一定行;「这样的良心车企如果不成长起来,国产车就真的没啥希望了」;也有理性分析的成分——没有比蔚来更有确定性的、护城河更深的低价股了;还有深入调研后的判断:「App 外,亏损、裁员、融不到资,蔚来,似乎已经没有了未来。蔚来不行,大概已经是全世界的共识;App 内,买了蔚来汽车的人,对她爱得深沉。让人不禁感慨做蔚来车主,真是不容易。花了 40 多万,还要与全世界为敌。什么样的神仙产品可以具备这样对立的气质。」或许正因为如此,9 名受访者中除了一名做空蔚来的亏了钱,其他人的浮盈都非常可观。+400% 都不算什么,到前天为止最多一个已经赚了过百万美金。而让我没有想到的是,采访还没结束,蔚来股价昨晚又爆了,收盘 13.22 美金每股,最高冲到 13.77 美金每股,总市值快速逼近 150 亿美金,突破了千亿人民币大关。今天盘前,蔚来股价再次大幅度上扬,突破了 14 美金每股,创下了新高。(截至我们写稿时为止)从年初至今的涨幅来看,蔚来已经在全球汽车行业排在第二。截至昨晚,蔚来的涨幅是 228.85%,仅比特斯拉的 232.24% 少了不到 4 个百分点。而对于这样的涨幅,一位被访者告诉我:「7 月 7 日蔚来股票成交量竟然冲到了全美第一,成交额全美第九。市场情绪过于火热,建议大家冷静。但不管怎么说,1 块多的蔚来回不去了。」好了,我的前言结束了,接着来看看这些蔚来小散、股东和空头们的故事吧。一、蔚来前员工:还帮前员工赚钱,很够意思1、@克拉拉 :当时熬的夜流的泪生的气都很值得@克拉拉 女士是蔚来的前员工,目前依然还是「一枚新能源汽车市场汪。」「目前不是车主,将来会是。」她发了一张图给我,目前浮盈大概是 +283%,但图就不放了。总而言之,今年她的本金已经 Double 了。「之前持有成本一块多,一番骚操作之后,变成了三块多,大家别学我。」@克拉拉 说她第一次持有蔚来股票是入职蔚来半年后,但真正自己购买蔚来股票是在离职后的 2019 年11 月份。原因则是因为「足够了解这家公司,无论在不在职,都值得购买。」从购入蔚来股票到现在,@克拉拉 说她从来没有动摇过。「人生有幸目前为止一共遇见了美股四次熔断,熔断一次加仓一次,完全不顾家人当时让我割肉的劝阻,现在家人没人敢挑战我的持股地位了(骄傲脸)。当然,偶尔缺钱,想买个东西的时候,会换点小钱出来。」@克拉拉 觉得蔚来此前的股价波动很正常,因为她前一家公司也经历过这样的大波动,毕竟在市场里,每一片雪花都在勇闯天涯。但是,好公司,好业绩,好经营,好团队,好产品,都具备,但是股价不合理,这好像也不合逻辑。「很开心蔚来等到了这股东风。当然万事具备的时候,其实还是需要一点东风的。所以审时度势的冷静,还是非常重要的。」目前的蔚来,在她的看来是一家好公司。「我记得我当时面试的时候说过:自己想去一家中国的,能造出让 Top Gear 节目拿去测评或者录制节目的汽车公司,很荣幸我加入到了。它的车,它的科技属性,这些仁者见仁,我只能说在我这里,我是认可的。」@克拉拉 给自己的定义是「心态平和的小散」,个人的策略打法是躺着不动,和偶尔爬起来买个期权 call,赚点权利金或者价格合适就行权。「好心态在这家事情上太重要了,就当作是种下的种子,和明天收获的惊喜好了。」因为是前员工,我们还多问了@克拉拉了两道问题。为什么离开蔚来?@ 克拉拉 说,当时的判断,是觉得可能不适合自己发展,是有一些冲动的,而目前依旧在新能源行业。如果再次做判断,应该会更冷静的考虑,不会冲动做决定。那是否后悔?「有一点点。」@克拉拉 说,蔚来经过了这些时间和这些功过,成为了更强大和更好的蔚来,「这也就说明当时熬的夜流的泪生的气都很值得啊」,而且经过这段时间的工作,她自己也成了更强大更爱思考和反思的人。「换句话说,一个公司在员工离开之后还在帮员工赚钱,很够意思了啊。」2、@Mr wang:那个晚上的李斌@Mr wang 也是一名蔚来前员工。从事采购管理工作的他,还是一名蔚来 ES8 的车主,购车时间是 2019 年 1 月。@Mr wang 没有发自己的盈亏截图,只是说了自己的持股成本——3.79 美金,目前赚了三倍到四倍。他告诉我他是在 2019 年 10 月第一次购买的蔚来股票,当时的价格在 1.44 美金左右,当时,他还没有离职。购买原因是因为他相信蔚来,觉得蔚来当时已经到了谷底,种种迹象更让他坚信蔚来一定可以起来。由于玩过 A 股,他也是几进几出。「我一般上涨了 30%,就会卖掉一些,然后等回调再买进一些。」让他印象最深刻是去年年底有一次蔚来股价从 2.4 美金涨到最高将近 4.8 美金 ,几乎一夜翻倍,「当时我一晚上没有睡觉。」因而,他特别佩服前阵子那个晒出赚了 100 多万美金截图的人——「这哥们真沉得住气。」而作为蔚来前员工,他到今天也依然认为蔚来会成为一家伟大的企业,因为它是一家有温度的企业。「我当时看到心里酸了一下,很心疼斌哥。有这样的老板,我们也得有良心呀。」@Mr wang 在谈及了一张著名照片时这样说。那张照片拍摄于去年蔚来公积金计划调整的前夜。照片中,李斌一个人坐在一个空房间内,深夜默默地刷着手机。第二天消息传出,说李斌思考一整夜后,取消了公积金调整的计划。@Mr wang 在电话中显得有些激动,随即吐槽了蔚来的人事,然后又说支撑他们去拼命的,很多时候就是这样一种信仰——「公司有再多问题,他相信李斌、力洪他们一定会帮基层员工说话。」「深深遗憾自己没有机会陪着蔚来一起走下去。蔚来一定程度上颠覆了这个行业。」@Mr wang 说如果蔚来还有工作机会,他还是想回去,随即又叹了口气,说估计不会有这样的机会了。二、 蔚来车主:坚定持有看多 3-5 年3、悟空:蔚来必将伟大作为蔚来创始版 1309 号车主,@悟空 是著名的蔚来铁粉。早在蔚来上市时,他就和几名车友一起凑份子购买了蔚来股票,并决定之后不动直到 2020 年 12 月 31 日,「到时,不论什么价格,我们都售出!」@悟空 说他第一届 NIO Day 开始,就对蔚来一见钟情、一见倾心。在很多自媒体写的蔚来文章下面, 他最喜欢的留言是:蔚来必将伟大。「个人认为蔚来在 2020 年底的估价应该超 20 美金,乐观估计会到 50 美金!2021 年底乐观估计会到 100 美金!在 5 年内到达 500 美金!在 10 年内可以超过 1000 美金!」至于是蔚来的股东、小散,还是蔚来的韭菜?@悟空 的回答是:大多数的蔚来车友认为,蔚来是和自己息息相关的一个公司;10% 的蔚来车友认为蔚来的兴荣就是和自己心情相关 ;1 % 的车友认为蔚来公司的成败比自己个人很多事情更重要,而他就是那属于 1% 的那一批。4、老霍:我是小散不当精神股东老霍是蔚来北京 RC 车友会的会长,知道的人很多,所以就不说他的综合盈利水平。老霍第一次购买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 10 月 24 日。「当时觉得蔚来股价已经到底了,买点总不会亏,大不了就当支持蔚来了。持有是一直都持有,只不过买一点再卖一点。」当时的价格大概在 1.38 美金每股,而老霍跟朋友交流过后觉得必须坚持价值投资——「计划长期持有看 3-5 年。」因此,中间虽然有波动但他从来没有动摇过,顶多做做短线,基本上短线有盈有亏,而且盈的比例还多点。对于蔚来这家公司,他基本判断是蔚来的沉淀已经足够了,交付量也上来了,也开始省钱了,走到今天这一步,算是初步站稳了、能抵御一定的风险了。「我觉得蔚来的车还有进步的空间,不是说性价比,而是说做工和品控方面还有待加强吧。另外我觉得科技这种东西,其实更应该融入生活,让人体会不出所谓的科技感,才是真的方便了大众。」老霍说蔚来的后续发展他是看好的,毕竟今天已经可以季度交付 1 万辆了,之后应该就是逐步毛利转正,现金流转正了,股价自然也会跟着涨。至于是小散还是股东?老霍果断选了小散,「股东算不上」。而且,他觉得虽然蔚来有一堆精神股东了,但是精神股东永远不够客观。「至于韭菜,也谈不上,毕竟买个车还赚钱了。。。还要啥自行车。」老霍说 看好一个行业,买了点自己熟知的这个行业的某一个企业的股票,体量又不大,充其量也就是个小散了。5、@石破天:良心车企也要搞好软件来自互联网的@石破天 也是一名蔚来 ES8 的车主,目前他的蔚来股票盈利 179.2%,成本价是 4.37 美元。作为 ES8 车主,他购买蔚来股票的时间比较早。「第一次买是在 19 年 4 月,5.4 美元时候买入的。当时主要作为车主,感受到蔚来的车的确很有诚意。」@石破天说,这样的良心车企如果不成长起来,国产车就真的没啥希望了。他看好蔚来的理念,一度也曾想入职蔚来。不过,对于当前的股价,他觉得有点疯狂。「之前一直看好到 10 美金,不过没想到这一天来得这么快。」他甚至觉得蔚来现状还配不上这么疯狂的追捧,现状大涨感觉只是资本市场的游戏,大盘如此,蔚来本身该涨但短期内涨这么多有点飘了。认为飘,主要原因在他认为蔚来在软件层面的进展太慢了。。「不管是NP,还是舒适性功能,蔚来已经太久没给车主带来惊喜了,软件不断返工的问题,甚至让人觉得厌烦,并且似乎丝毫没有要改变的迹象。」@石破天 说,虽然这并不妨碍他认为蔚来依旧是目前电动车第一梯队,甚至有更多的增长可能性。但「可能还是源于市场对新能源的接受度在提升,并不是因为蔚来本身做的更好了。」他吐槽说近期他可能会更多关注蔚来股票。「毕竟让我赚钱了,从这个角度说,我是股东。」,但是对于车,尤其是软件,他也直接吐槽说在丧失耐心,恨其不争,「从这个角度看,我是韭菜。」三、投资者: 深入调研才发现蔚来的特别6、贝氪曼:Model 3 车主浮盈 55 万美金某运营商产品经理@贝氪曼 并不是蔚来车主,目前开着一辆国产 Model 3 。「因为我只开轿车,不开 SUV。等蔚来推出 ET7 或者 ET5 应该会买一辆。」我看完他发来的浮盈截图后,觉得他的确是「很有能力」买一辆。因为他的浮盈高达 55 万美金!而本金只有不到 15 万美金!@贝氪曼 是在 2019 年 11 月开始购买蔚来股票的,当时的成本是 1.95 美金,之后换成了期权。「一直换仓,但从未下车,拿到现在。」而作为特斯拉的粉丝,@贝氪曼 说自己开始并不了解蔚来这个品牌,但在微博上看到蔚来自燃、股价暴跌、资金流紧张等负面新闻后,他跑去研究了一段时间,结果发现这个公司是非常优质的投资标的。因此,对于前夜的突破 12 美金,@贝氪曼 认为是「价值修复,早晚会来的。」他说自己还是偏保守了,因为持仓期权是 7 月、8 月行权,行权价是 6-9 美金,而「目前市面上没有比蔚来更有确定性的、护城河更深的低价股了。」在他看来,蔚来的本质是电子消费品科技公司,和特斯拉一样区别于传统厂商。聚焦产品线、重视用户体验和产品力,确保每一款产品都是精品。此外蔚来还有民族质造、民族汽车工业希望等属性加持,一开始的豪华定位有很深的护城河。他甚至说如果蔚来顺利推出 BaaS、ET7、NOP、NP2 平台、ET5 发布后会一直上行。「个人觉得市值不会低于戴姆勒汽车(453 亿美元)」7、@朗爸 :赚了 100 万美金的个人投资者@朗爸从事金融投资,并不是蔚来的车主,目前的持仓成本在 2.2 美金左右。作为一名个人投资者,@朗爸 第一次买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 10 月,「尝试性投资,也带点风险投资。」@朗爸 说蔚来是用户企业,这是它最宽的护城河。因此在持有蔚来股票这件事情上从来没有动摇过。「在蔚来最艰难的时候买的,坚信蔚来不会破产,看好蔚来的车,看好李斌,好看蔚来的换电模式,10 万股,长期持有,不会抛。」至于此前的股价波动,@朗爸 则觉得很正常:「去年年底的时候,市场对它的看法是破产退市。到现在能够活过来,而且前景非常好,这个 180 度转弯带来的股价自然也是 180 度转弯的。」我们最后问@朗爸,觉得自己是股东、小散还是韭菜。@朗爸 的回答是,亏了就是韭菜,赚了就是小散,赚大钱了就是股东8、@听周小姐的魏先生:看了蔚来 App 决定下场@听周小姐的魏先生 的本职工作是私募基金投资,2020 年 5 月购买的 蔚来 ES6。他第一次购买蔚来股票是在 2019 年 9 月,「后来陆陆续续也有买一些。一直持有到现在。」持仓成本两块,目前大约翻了六倍。他炒股有两个原则: 1、不懂不做。最好的选股方式,就是日常生活中点滴的积累与思考。咱们普通人投资股票,安安心心买自己日常生活中,熟悉、容易看懂的公司就好了。蔚来的车他试驾体验过之后觉得很不错,产品力很强,服务也很好,但舆论上却非常多的人在黑,股价也很萎靡。而他觉得一个好产品不会一直不被认可,值得入手。2、好股好价。蔚来去年的股价是真的低,一度接近退市临界点,低无可低了。蔚来过去一年的股价波动,在他看来也非常正常:事实上很多优秀企业的股价都不是一个线性上涨的曲线,而是在某一个时间段突然爆发。真正炒股赚到钱的人,就是去买别人不知道它好但你知道、或者是别人都知道它好但你知道其实更好的公司。然后耐得住性子,长期持有,持续的跟踪和观察,只要公司优质,即便股价不动甚至下跌,都不妨碍你坚定持有,市场迟早也会认识到它价值。「额外说几句,我和蔚来的相识,真的是缘分。」@听周小姐的魏先生 说因为职业关系,他常年和VC/PE打交道,公司在 2017 年合作了一支私募股权基金,管理人在 2017 年、2018 年投了 2 家后来在中国赫赫有名的公司——蔚来汽车、瑞幸咖啡。而从一开始他就看好新能源赛道而非所谓互联网模式下的咖啡,在与客户的沟通中也是更推崇蔚来,谨慎对待瑞幸。但讽刺的是,他不看好的瑞幸火箭上市,股价一路从 17 块涨到 50 块,而盛赞的蔚来股价却一路从 6 块跌到 1 块多。他不能理解,客户更不能理解,质疑声扑面而来。但投资习惯告诉他,表面上买卖的是股票、基金,本质上交易的是彼此的理念与认知。不调研就没有发言权,@听周小姐的魏先生 决定搜集第一手的蔚来资料,于是下载了 App 混迹在论坛中,换个视角看蔚来。魔幻的一幕出现了,App外,亏损、裁员、融不到资,蔚来,似乎已经没有了未来。蔚来不行,大概已经是全世界的共识。App内,买了蔚来汽车的人,对她爱得深沉。让人不禁感慨做蔚来车主,真是不容易。花了40多万,还要与全世界为敌。什么样的神仙产品可以具备这样对立的气质。「越研究越着迷,直到自己买了它家股票,成了蔚来车主。」@听周小姐的魏先生 认为蔚来汽车界海底捞虽然的确名不虚传——从试驾到下定到提车,蔚来的服务都让他挑不出毛病。特别是买车之后比买车之前更热情这件事让人很受用——但汽车是一个超大件耐用商品。如果只有服务,他是不会买单的。真正让他下决心刷卡的,是它的产品力确实很强,内饰品质、全铝车身、车辆动态表现都很不错。作为一辆汽车,它非常优秀。不过说起科技属性,@听周小姐的魏先生 觉得蔚来还有一些不足——不管是自动驾驶、自动泊车还是人车交互,都还有很大提升空间,所以蔚来现在更像是传统燃油车走向智能电动车时代中的一个过度产品,它很好的平滑了这个发展曲线,但现在的它还称不上下一个时代的作品。对于当前蔚来股价的飙升,@听周小姐的魏先生 提醒到:股价这种东西不好预判,昨天 7 月 7 日蔚来股票成交量竟然冲到了全美第一,成交额全美第九。「市场情绪过于火热,建议大家冷静。但不管怎么说,1 块多的蔚来回不去了。」至于到底是小散、股东还是韭菜。他的回答则是:「我自己最认同的身份还是蔚来的车主,股票只是生活的一小部分,即便是买入蔚来的股票,也只是一笔普通的投资而已,如果一定要选一个,那就小散吧。」四、 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