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crazySmurf
2024-05-25
$Faraday Future(FFIE)$
请教大家一个问题,做空一个股票如果他退市了 你还需要还吗
crazySmurf
2021-08-03
笑死,自己打自己的脸
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crazySmurf
2021-05-18
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crazySmurf
2021-04-29
$优步(UBER)$
发生什么了,为什么突然跳水
crazySmurf
2021-04-22
这篇文章不错,转发给大家看
自动驾驶需要一场泡沫
crazySmurf
2021-02-26
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crazySmurf
2021-02-16
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@小虎AV: 【木头姐对于就业数据、宏观经济、新冠肺炎刺激和方舟的2021年大想法| ITK】在《知情人士》(In the Know, 2021年2月5日)的第十二集中,方舟的首席执行官/CIO凯茜·伍德(Cathie Wood)谈论了方舟的“好事”、就业数据、宏观经济、新冠肺炎刺激和2021年大想法。与往常一样,她也在财政政策、货币政策、市场信号、经济指标等问题上发表意见。 凯西•伍德(Cathie Wood)将简要回顾与冠状病毒(COVID-19)大流行有关的这段时期的不确定性。方舟2021年大创意包括以下内容: 深度学习 重塑数据中心 虚拟世界 数码钱包 比特币基础知识 比特币:为机构做准备 电动汽车(EV) 自动化 自主乘驾 送货无人机 轨道航空航天 3D列印 长读测序 多癌筛查 细胞和基因疗法:第二代 视频较长,有36分钟,本期视频采用YouTube自带翻译,如有谬误,还请谅解[比心]
crazySmurf
2021-02-02
$游戏驿站(GME)$
为啥amc和gme都做空不了啊,明明还有做空池啊
crazySmurf
2021-01-13
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crazySmurf
2020-10-21
$跟谁学(GSX)$
50见朋友们
crazySmurf
2020-10-07
$奥罗拉大麻公司(ACB)$
这公司市值5.47亿。但是看他资产,现金及等价物1.6亿,固定资产10亿,按五折算他5个亿,其他的都不算,这种可以随时变现的资产都至少能卖6.6亿,这公司就算原地破产清算也能分到不少钱。
crazySmurf
2020-09-17
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crazySmurf
2020-09-11
为什么天天高开低走啊,心好累,今天又高开,跑不跑啊兄弟
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
$苹果(AAPL)$
crazySmurf
2020-09-03
今晚大跳水啊
crazySmurf
2020-08-26
立个flag,年底翻倍好吧
crazySmurf
2020-08-24
别洗了别洗了,等潮水退去你就知道谁在裸泳了
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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4814e0363c668a26061448ae4aa6a3fd\" tg-width=\"830\" tg-height=\"225\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>但是,和手机操作系统稳定的双寡头格局不同的是,除了特斯拉和Google,还有很多其他的参与者,软硬件通吃的厂商就有通用、小鹏,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>也说要造车,软件厂商就更多了,名气大如华为,小一点的有Pony.ai、Nuro.ai、图森未来等,图森未来更成为首家登陆美股的自动驾驶软件厂商。</p>\n<p><b>所以,有人提出自动驾驶不应该只有“IOS”和“安卓”,而是百家争鸣的局面。</b></p>\n<p>这种说法也不是没有道理,从理论上讲,智能手机操作系统只需要搭建基础的框架,其他的应用有待开发者去完善,之后再形成完善的生态系统。</p>\n<p>开发者不需要是操作系统公司,可以是第三方公司,觉得哪些功能有需求,就自己在源代码的基础上开发APP,这就类似于政府把地块整理好,把自己应该承担的基础设施建设好,然后供地产商在上面建住宅也好,建商场也行,建厂房、建写字楼都行,最终形成完善的城市设施。</p>\n<p>而且,手机的应用场景非常多,金融的、购物的、社交的、娱乐的,全都给操作系统公司做,等于城市的所有设施都让政府建,这将相当费劲和相当低效,倒不如把这些任务交给第三方开发者,同时让他们分享成果,一旦和众多的开发者、用户绑定在一起,就很容易形成垄断优势,新进入的操作系统就很难有生存空间。</p>\n<p><b>这是妥妥的三赢。</b></p>\n<p>但是,自动驾驶系统不一样,作为用户,你总不能拿到一个“裸系统”,然后再自己去安装刹车APP、方向盘APP、自动泊车APP吧,这得是多差的用户体验?要是忘记安装哪个APP,是不是意味着自动驾驶不了了?更要命的是,忘了装刹车APP就开自动上路,万一该刹车时不刹,那不等于拿人命开玩笑?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eb1e4e0bea9f608af01271f29b74384f\" tg-width=\"830\" tg-height=\"376\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>换句话说,<b>开发商给到用户的,不应该是一个仅仅整理好的“地块”,也不应该只建了部分基础设施的“地块”,而应该是一座具备完善设施的“城市”。</b>所以,自动驾驶系统一出来就应该是完善的,不能缺胳膊少腿,也不能寄希望于由第三方去完善,除非是一些非关键性的、加强体验性质的东西。</p>\n<p>另外,自动驾驶系统的功能相对单一,只是替代人去开车,不像手机有着太宽泛的应用,所以开发商本身也应该具备提供完善自动驾驶系统解决方案的能力。</p>\n<p>当然,作为开发商,在开发模式上,可以先做好基础架构,然后允许第三方开发者在上面添砖加瓦,事实上,百度就是这么做的,Apollo平台已经聚集了超过4.5万的开发者,这些做法并不矛盾,因为只要交付的是完善的系统方案即可。</p>\n<p>这么看来,自动驾驶系统好像真没必要一家或者两家独大,百家争鸣可能更有利于竞争,最终让消费者获益。相信这个逻辑也影响着众多入局自动驾驶的公司,给了他们前赴后继的勇气。</p>\n<p>事情果真如此吗?</p>\n<h3>2</h3>\n<h3><b>百家争鸣真的可以实现?</b></h3>\n<p>商业社会,<b>质量、成本、效率</b>是永远绕不开的“三角关系”。</p>\n<p>谁都希望得到“双高一低”--高质量、高效率同时低成本,但实际情况,<b>这是“不可能三角”,顶多只能得到其中两个。</b>把这个框架放在自动驾驶的百家争鸣上,冲突就随之而来。</p>\n<p>不同开发商的人才、资金、技术储备、开发效率都不一样,都来做这个事,重复开发不说,对各种资源的消耗,以及有可能出现的恶性竞争,显然和低成本背道而驰;即使每个开发商都能做出一样的质量、一样的成本,效率上也会有快慢,资金充足、人才丰富的会快一点,相反就有可能会慢一点;而如果既要高质量,又要高效率,那就得比拼谁的钱多,不同开发商手头的资金、融资能力、融资成本也是千差万别。</p>\n<p><b>不管从哪个角度看,都是既要又要还要的事,所以理论上不应该存在过多的自动驾驶系统开发商。</b></p>\n<p>只是,从开发商的角度,看法可能完全相反。</p>\n<p>在智能汽车最重要的应用场景,没有厂商希望自己变成局外人,如果在这场竞赛中能够最终获胜,那都是白花花的银子,这是相当有诱惑力的事情。往更长远的方向讲,传统造车有可能因为拥有自动驾驶开发能力,在汽车业的淘汰赛中占据主动,新势力也一样,软件公司则因为自动驾驶而开辟了新的蓝海。</p>\n<p>而且,现在新兴的产业机会并不多,好不容易等来了汽车业百年未有之大变局,当然要去搏杀,一开始就作壁上观,看着大好机会白白溜走,不是件好受的事。</p>\n<p>何况,现在才刚开战,胜负未分,敢于入场厮杀的公司,都不是吃素的,论资金、论人才、论技术储备,虽有差异,但说不上谁一定赢,谁一定输。既然如此,早早就退出,将市场拱手让人,这不是做生意应该有的姿态,即使最后战死,也好过一开始就做逃兵。</p>\n<p>公说公有理,婆说婆有理,最后只有交给市场。</p>\n<p>展望未来,从参与者的角度看,因为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/YJ\">云集</a>了太多开发商,自动驾驶市场将会非常热闹;从竞争的角度看,自动驾驶市场将上演残酷的厮杀;从路径发展上看,很可能是大佬入局--资本砸钱--泡沫催化--泡沫形成--泡沫破灭--涅槃重生。</p>\n<p><b>自动驾驶需要一场泡沫,也应该有一场泡沫。</b></p>\n<p>从资本的角度看,自动驾驶大概率会先来一场资本盛宴,然后演变成一场资本泡沫,最后泡沫破灭之后,走出了真正的强者。</p>\n<p><b>对于国家、产业、消费者和最后走出的强者,这场泡沫是“白洞”,因为它造就了百年汽车最重大的革命;而对于因此而倒下的开发商和资本方,这场泡沫将是巨大的“黑洞”,吞噬一切。</b></p>\n<h3>3</h3>\n<h3><b>作为投资者,应该干嘛?</b></h3>\n<p>言归投资,要避免掉进“黑洞”,就需要寻找产业链里最有价值的东西,有两个值得重点跟进。</p>\n<p>第一,<b>AI芯片和算法</b>,现在的竞争格局,基本成了巨头们的角力场,而且都是两者通吃,特斯拉有FSD芯片和算法,百度有昆仑芯片和Apollo,华为有麒麟芯片和鸿蒙,连小鹏也说要自研芯片,和自己的NGP形成呼应。所以,不管软件公司还是整车厂,如果没有足够实力同时拿下芯片和算法,却要声称自研自动驾驶系统,这类公司很可能掉队。</p>\n<p>当然,对于整车厂而言,并非个个都要自己做自动驾驶系统,可以选择购买其他软件厂商的系统,自己则专注于整车设计、生产、基建、营销、售后等环节,也不失为好的策略。</p>\n<p>自动驾驶的研发是烧钱的活儿,AI芯片和算法人才也都非常紧缺,巨头们都在第一时间锁住人才,论财力,巨头们也不缺。如果后面才介入,基本连汤都难喝到。</p>\n<p>所以,押注这个领域,除了巨头,貌似也没其他选择了。</p>\n<p>第二,<b>激光雷达</b>,“格隆汇研究”公众号在前期的文章《激光雷达,自动驾驶赛道的新宠儿》做过专门的分析,这里不再赘述。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9ef019c47d40b874ba2dc071fa8f576\" tg-width=\"831\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">只讲一个最简单的底层逻辑,自动驾驶是人命关天的大事,对行驶过程中周遭的环境感知必须非常灵敏、精准和全面,而激光雷达这方面有着天然优势,远比摄像头、超声波雷达、毫米波雷达要牛。此前,激光雷达因为价格过万而被质疑商业化能力,现在华为已经成功将成本降到几百块的“白菜价”,量产障碍扫除,按照中国人做生意的脾性,后面会陆陆续续出现更多的激光雷达厂家。</p>\n<p>如果觉得这两个赛道太拥挤,也可以寻找一些细分领域有亮点公司,比如<b>专注做卡车自动驾驶系统的开发商</b>,这个领域有意思的地方在于,卡车的行驶场景和路线可以相对简单、固定,比如点对点的高速公路货运、港口装卸区的来回、工厂区的货物上下,这些地方容易实现人车分离,在港口区或者工厂区建空中行人区,人和车在空间上完全隔离,车上就没必要坐人,车撞人的概率就可以极大地降低。即使车撞上了,损失的是货物,不至于死人,因为人命才值钱。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5086df362e7f1465bf4f44805d8d61de\" tg-width=\"831\" tg-height=\"536\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>这些公司的领导人懂得,和巨头拼资金、拼人才,不一定拼得过,所以不如选择差异化路线,深入挖掘一下巨头暂时忽略的细分领域,开发难度、开发成本、竞争压力会相对低一些。退一万步讲,即使哪天巨头们后知后觉,要大举杀入的时候,自己还可以凭借长期的积累,保留被巨头收编的资格。</p>\n<h3>4</h3>\n<h3><b>结语</b></h3>\n<p>自动驾驶的出现,实现汽车业过去一百年都没能实现的事情,这是足够大的生意,也是足够大、足够多的投资机会。</p>\n<p><b>但是,这些赛道仍然有很多等待突破的东西,有许多需要商业化落地和检验的东西,在这些东西没有明朗化之前,投资的坑是非常多的,借信息不对称,借投资者不明就里的时间窗口,趁机割韭菜的人,多的是。</b></p>\n<p>对于投资者而言,如果有能力在早期就看透底层逻辑,发掘到投资机会,可以大胆押注;等到形势明朗化,出现向上拐点,或者出现爆发迹象之时,再押注,也不会晚;在狂热期,泡沫吹大之时,有能力跟随泡沫起舞的,也不失为押注时机,但如果没有能力急流勇退,还是多一份冷静好。</p>\n<p><b>现在,也正需要这样一份冷静。</b></p>","source":"gelonghui_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>自动驾驶需要一场泡沫</title>\n<style 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Waymo。\n\n但是,和手机操作系统稳定的双寡头格局不同的是,除了特斯拉和Google,还有很多其他的参与者,软硬件通吃的厂商就有通用、小鹏,百度、苹果也说要造车,软件厂商就更多了,名气大如华为,小一点的有Pony.ai、Nuro.ai、图森未来等,图森未来更成为首家登陆美股的自动驾驶软件厂商。\n所以,有人提出自动驾驶不应该只有“IOS”和“安卓”,而是百家争鸣的局面。\n这种说法也不是没有道理,从理论上讲,智能手机操作系统只需要搭建基础的框架,其他的应用有待开发者去完善,之后再形成完善的生态系统。\n开发者不需要是操作系统公司,可以是第三方公司,觉得哪些功能有需求,就自己在源代码的基础上开发APP,这就类似于政府把地块整理好,把自己应该承担的基础设施建设好,然后供地产商在上面建住宅也好,建商场也行,建厂房、建写字楼都行,最终形成完善的城市设施。\n而且,手机的应用场景非常多,金融的、购物的、社交的、娱乐的,全都给操作系统公司做,等于城市的所有设施都让政府建,这将相当费劲和相当低效,倒不如把这些任务交给第三方开发者,同时让他们分享成果,一旦和众多的开发者、用户绑定在一起,就很容易形成垄断优势,新进入的操作系统就很难有生存空间。\n这是妥妥的三赢。\n但是,自动驾驶系统不一样,作为用户,你总不能拿到一个“裸系统”,然后再自己去安装刹车APP、方向盘APP、自动泊车APP吧,这得是多差的用户体验?要是忘记安装哪个APP,是不是意味着自动驾驶不了了?更要命的是,忘了装刹车APP就开自动上路,万一该刹车时不刹,那不等于拿人命开玩笑?\n\n换句话说,开发商给到用户的,不应该是一个仅仅整理好的“地块”,也不应该只建了部分基础设施的“地块”,而应该是一座具备完善设施的“城市”。所以,自动驾驶系统一出来就应该是完善的,不能缺胳膊少腿,也不能寄希望于由第三方去完善,除非是一些非关键性的、加强体验性质的东西。\n另外,自动驾驶系统的功能相对单一,只是替代人去开车,不像手机有着太宽泛的应用,所以开发商本身也应该具备提供完善自动驾驶系统解决方案的能力。\n当然,作为开发商,在开发模式上,可以先做好基础架构,然后允许第三方开发者在上面添砖加瓦,事实上,百度就是这么做的,Apollo平台已经聚集了超过4.5万的开发者,这些做法并不矛盾,因为只要交付的是完善的系统方案即可。\n这么看来,自动驾驶系统好像真没必要一家或者两家独大,百家争鸣可能更有利于竞争,最终让消费者获益。相信这个逻辑也影响着众多入局自动驾驶的公司,给了他们前赴后继的勇气。\n事情果真如此吗?\n2\n百家争鸣真的可以实现?\n商业社会,质量、成本、效率是永远绕不开的“三角关系”。\n谁都希望得到“双高一低”--高质量、高效率同时低成本,但实际情况,这是“不可能三角”,顶多只能得到其中两个。把这个框架放在自动驾驶的百家争鸣上,冲突就随之而来。\n不同开发商的人才、资金、技术储备、开发效率都不一样,都来做这个事,重复开发不说,对各种资源的消耗,以及有可能出现的恶性竞争,显然和低成本背道而驰;即使每个开发商都能做出一样的质量、一样的成本,效率上也会有快慢,资金充足、人才丰富的会快一点,相反就有可能会慢一点;而如果既要高质量,又要高效率,那就得比拼谁的钱多,不同开发商手头的资金、融资能力、融资成本也是千差万别。\n不管从哪个角度看,都是既要又要还要的事,所以理论上不应该存在过多的自动驾驶系统开发商。\n只是,从开发商的角度,看法可能完全相反。\n在智能汽车最重要的应用场景,没有厂商希望自己变成局外人,如果在这场竞赛中能够最终获胜,那都是白花花的银子,这是相当有诱惑力的事情。往更长远的方向讲,传统造车有可能因为拥有自动驾驶开发能力,在汽车业的淘汰赛中占据主动,新势力也一样,软件公司则因为自动驾驶而开辟了新的蓝海。\n而且,现在新兴的产业机会并不多,好不容易等来了汽车业百年未有之大变局,当然要去搏杀,一开始就作壁上观,看着大好机会白白溜走,不是件好受的事。\n何况,现在才刚开战,胜负未分,敢于入场厮杀的公司,都不是吃素的,论资金、论人才、论技术储备,虽有差异,但说不上谁一定赢,谁一定输。既然如此,早早就退出,将市场拱手让人,这不是做生意应该有的姿态,即使最后战死,也好过一开始就做逃兵。\n公说公有理,婆说婆有理,最后只有交给市场。\n展望未来,从参与者的角度看,因为云集了太多开发商,自动驾驶市场将会非常热闹;从竞争的角度看,自动驾驶市场将上演残酷的厮杀;从路径发展上看,很可能是大佬入局--资本砸钱--泡沫催化--泡沫形成--泡沫破灭--涅槃重生。\n自动驾驶需要一场泡沫,也应该有一场泡沫。\n从资本的角度看,自动驾驶大概率会先来一场资本盛宴,然后演变成一场资本泡沫,最后泡沫破灭之后,走出了真正的强者。\n对于国家、产业、消费者和最后走出的强者,这场泡沫是“白洞”,因为它造就了百年汽车最重大的革命;而对于因此而倒下的开发商和资本方,这场泡沫将是巨大的“黑洞”,吞噬一切。\n3\n作为投资者,应该干嘛?\n言归投资,要避免掉进“黑洞”,就需要寻找产业链里最有价值的东西,有两个值得重点跟进。\n第一,AI芯片和算法,现在的竞争格局,基本成了巨头们的角力场,而且都是两者通吃,特斯拉有FSD芯片和算法,百度有昆仑芯片和Apollo,华为有麒麟芯片和鸿蒙,连小鹏也说要自研芯片,和自己的NGP形成呼应。所以,不管软件公司还是整车厂,如果没有足够实力同时拿下芯片和算法,却要声称自研自动驾驶系统,这类公司很可能掉队。\n当然,对于整车厂而言,并非个个都要自己做自动驾驶系统,可以选择购买其他软件厂商的系统,自己则专注于整车设计、生产、基建、营销、售后等环节,也不失为好的策略。\n自动驾驶的研发是烧钱的活儿,AI芯片和算法人才也都非常紧缺,巨头们都在第一时间锁住人才,论财力,巨头们也不缺。如果后面才介入,基本连汤都难喝到。\n所以,押注这个领域,除了巨头,貌似也没其他选择了。\n第二,激光雷达,“格隆汇研究”公众号在前期的文章《激光雷达,自动驾驶赛道的新宠儿》做过专门的分析,这里不再赘述。\n只讲一个最简单的底层逻辑,自动驾驶是人命关天的大事,对行驶过程中周遭的环境感知必须非常灵敏、精准和全面,而激光雷达这方面有着天然优势,远比摄像头、超声波雷达、毫米波雷达要牛。此前,激光雷达因为价格过万而被质疑商业化能力,现在华为已经成功将成本降到几百块的“白菜价”,量产障碍扫除,按照中国人做生意的脾性,后面会陆陆续续出现更多的激光雷达厂家。\n如果觉得这两个赛道太拥挤,也可以寻找一些细分领域有亮点公司,比如专注做卡车自动驾驶系统的开发商,这个领域有意思的地方在于,卡车的行驶场景和路线可以相对简单、固定,比如点对点的高速公路货运、港口装卸区的来回、工厂区的货物上下,这些地方容易实现人车分离,在港口区或者工厂区建空中行人区,人和车在空间上完全隔离,车上就没必要坐人,车撞人的概率就可以极大地降低。即使车撞上了,损失的是货物,不至于死人,因为人命才值钱。\n\n这些公司的领导人懂得,和巨头拼资金、拼人才,不一定拼得过,所以不如选择差异化路线,深入挖掘一下巨头暂时忽略的细分领域,开发难度、开发成本、竞争压力会相对低一些。退一万步讲,即使哪天巨头们后知后觉,要大举杀入的时候,自己还可以凭借长期的积累,保留被巨头收编的资格。\n4\n结语\n自动驾驶的出现,实现汽车业过去一百年都没能实现的事情,这是足够大的生意,也是足够大、足够多的投资机会。\n但是,这些赛道仍然有很多等待突破的东西,有许多需要商业化落地和检验的东西,在这些东西没有明朗化之前,投资的坑是非常多的,借信息不对称,借投资者不明就里的时间窗口,趁机割韭菜的人,多的是。\n对于投资者而言,如果有能力在早期就看透底层逻辑,发掘到投资机会,可以大胆押注;等到形势明朗化,出现向上拐点,或者出现爆发迹象之时,再押注,也不会晚;在狂热期,泡沫吹大之时,有能力跟随泡沫起舞的,也不失为押注时机,但如果没有能力急流勇退,还是多一份冷静好。\n现在,也正需要这样一份冷静。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3452,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368699707,"gmtCreate":1614314640309,"gmtModify":1703476238494,"author":{"id":"3558516032969060","authorId":"3558516032969060","name":"crazySmurf","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23425014673c5a95a6121d6f441bcde6","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3558516032969060","authorIdStr":"3558516032969060"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368699707","repostId":"1140861561","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2213,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":382709921,"gmtCreate":1613480504063,"gmtModify":1613480504063,"author":{"id":"3558516032969060","authorId":"3558516032969060","name":"crazySmurf","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23425014673c5a95a6121d6f441bcde6","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3558516032969060","authorIdStr":"3558516032969060"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/382709921","repostId":"382220750","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":382220750,"gmtCreate":1613454417566,"gmtModify":1613525156783,"author":{"id":"35143291164259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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eb1e4e0bea9f608af01271f29b74384f\" tg-width=\"830\" tg-height=\"376\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>换句话说,<b>开发商给到用户的,不应该是一个仅仅整理好的“地块”,也不应该只建了部分基础设施的“地块”,而应该是一座具备完善设施的“城市”。</b>所以,自动驾驶系统一出来就应该是完善的,不能缺胳膊少腿,也不能寄希望于由第三方去完善,除非是一些非关键性的、加强体验性质的东西。</p>\n<p>另外,自动驾驶系统的功能相对单一,只是替代人去开车,不像手机有着太宽泛的应用,所以开发商本身也应该具备提供完善自动驾驶系统解决方案的能力。</p>\n<p>当然,作为开发商,在开发模式上,可以先做好基础架构,然后允许第三方开发者在上面添砖加瓦,事实上,百度就是这么做的,Apollo平台已经聚集了超过4.5万的开发者,这些做法并不矛盾,因为只要交付的是完善的系统方案即可。</p>\n<p>这么看来,自动驾驶系统好像真没必要一家或者两家独大,百家争鸣可能更有利于竞争,最终让消费者获益。相信这个逻辑也影响着众多入局自动驾驶的公司,给了他们前赴后继的勇气。</p>\n<p>事情果真如此吗?</p>\n<h3>2</h3>\n<h3><b>百家争鸣真的可以实现?</b></h3>\n<p>商业社会,<b>质量、成本、效率</b>是永远绕不开的“三角关系”。</p>\n<p>谁都希望得到“双高一低”--高质量、高效率同时低成本,但实际情况,<b>这是“不可能三角”,顶多只能得到其中两个。</b>把这个框架放在自动驾驶的百家争鸣上,冲突就随之而来。</p>\n<p>不同开发商的人才、资金、技术储备、开发效率都不一样,都来做这个事,重复开发不说,对各种资源的消耗,以及有可能出现的恶性竞争,显然和低成本背道而驰;即使每个开发商都能做出一样的质量、一样的成本,效率上也会有快慢,资金充足、人才丰富的会快一点,相反就有可能会慢一点;而如果既要高质量,又要高效率,那就得比拼谁的钱多,不同开发商手头的资金、融资能力、融资成本也是千差万别。</p>\n<p><b>不管从哪个角度看,都是既要又要还要的事,所以理论上不应该存在过多的自动驾驶系统开发商。</b></p>\n<p>只是,从开发商的角度,看法可能完全相反。</p>\n<p>在智能汽车最重要的应用场景,没有厂商希望自己变成局外人,如果在这场竞赛中能够最终获胜,那都是白花花的银子,这是相当有诱惑力的事情。往更长远的方向讲,传统造车有可能因为拥有自动驾驶开发能力,在汽车业的淘汰赛中占据主动,新势力也一样,软件公司则因为自动驾驶而开辟了新的蓝海。</p>\n<p>而且,现在新兴的产业机会并不多,好不容易等来了汽车业百年未有之大变局,当然要去搏杀,一开始就作壁上观,看着大好机会白白溜走,不是件好受的事。</p>\n<p>何况,现在才刚开战,胜负未分,敢于入场厮杀的公司,都不是吃素的,论资金、论人才、论技术储备,虽有差异,但说不上谁一定赢,谁一定输。既然如此,早早就退出,将市场拱手让人,这不是做生意应该有的姿态,即使最后战死,也好过一开始就做逃兵。</p>\n<p>公说公有理,婆说婆有理,最后只有交给市场。</p>\n<p>展望未来,从参与者的角度看,因为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/YJ\">云集</a>了太多开发商,自动驾驶市场将会非常热闹;从竞争的角度看,自动驾驶市场将上演残酷的厮杀;从路径发展上看,很可能是大佬入局--资本砸钱--泡沫催化--泡沫形成--泡沫破灭--涅槃重生。</p>\n<p><b>自动驾驶需要一场泡沫,也应该有一场泡沫。</b></p>\n<p>从资本的角度看,自动驾驶大概率会先来一场资本盛宴,然后演变成一场资本泡沫,最后泡沫破灭之后,走出了真正的强者。</p>\n<p><b>对于国家、产业、消费者和最后走出的强者,这场泡沫是“白洞”,因为它造就了百年汽车最重大的革命;而对于因此而倒下的开发商和资本方,这场泡沫将是巨大的“黑洞”,吞噬一切。</b></p>\n<h3>3</h3>\n<h3><b>作为投资者,应该干嘛?</b></h3>\n<p>言归投资,要避免掉进“黑洞”,就需要寻找产业链里最有价值的东西,有两个值得重点跟进。</p>\n<p>第一,<b>AI芯片和算法</b>,现在的竞争格局,基本成了巨头们的角力场,而且都是两者通吃,特斯拉有FSD芯片和算法,百度有昆仑芯片和Apollo,华为有麒麟芯片和鸿蒙,连小鹏也说要自研芯片,和自己的NGP形成呼应。所以,不管软件公司还是整车厂,如果没有足够实力同时拿下芯片和算法,却要声称自研自动驾驶系统,这类公司很可能掉队。</p>\n<p>当然,对于整车厂而言,并非个个都要自己做自动驾驶系统,可以选择购买其他软件厂商的系统,自己则专注于整车设计、生产、基建、营销、售后等环节,也不失为好的策略。</p>\n<p>自动驾驶的研发是烧钱的活儿,AI芯片和算法人才也都非常紧缺,巨头们都在第一时间锁住人才,论财力,巨头们也不缺。如果后面才介入,基本连汤都难喝到。</p>\n<p>所以,押注这个领域,除了巨头,貌似也没其他选择了。</p>\n<p>第二,<b>激光雷达</b>,“格隆汇研究”公众号在前期的文章《激光雷达,自动驾驶赛道的新宠儿》做过专门的分析,这里不再赘述。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9ef019c47d40b874ba2dc071fa8f576\" tg-width=\"831\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">只讲一个最简单的底层逻辑,自动驾驶是人命关天的大事,对行驶过程中周遭的环境感知必须非常灵敏、精准和全面,而激光雷达这方面有着天然优势,远比摄像头、超声波雷达、毫米波雷达要牛。此前,激光雷达因为价格过万而被质疑商业化能力,现在华为已经成功将成本降到几百块的“白菜价”,量产障碍扫除,按照中国人做生意的脾性,后面会陆陆续续出现更多的激光雷达厂家。</p>\n<p>如果觉得这两个赛道太拥挤,也可以寻找一些细分领域有亮点公司,比如<b>专注做卡车自动驾驶系统的开发商</b>,这个领域有意思的地方在于,卡车的行驶场景和路线可以相对简单、固定,比如点对点的高速公路货运、港口装卸区的来回、工厂区的货物上下,这些地方容易实现人车分离,在港口区或者工厂区建空中行人区,人和车在空间上完全隔离,车上就没必要坐人,车撞人的概率就可以极大地降低。即使车撞上了,损失的是货物,不至于死人,因为人命才值钱。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5086df362e7f1465bf4f44805d8d61de\" tg-width=\"831\" tg-height=\"536\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>这些公司的领导人懂得,和巨头拼资金、拼人才,不一定拼得过,所以不如选择差异化路线,深入挖掘一下巨头暂时忽略的细分领域,开发难度、开发成本、竞争压力会相对低一些。退一万步讲,即使哪天巨头们后知后觉,要大举杀入的时候,自己还可以凭借长期的积累,保留被巨头收编的资格。</p>\n<h3>4</h3>\n<h3><b>结语</b></h3>\n<p>自动驾驶的出现,实现汽车业过去一百年都没能实现的事情,这是足够大的生意,也是足够大、足够多的投资机会。</p>\n<p><b>但是,这些赛道仍然有很多等待突破的东西,有许多需要商业化落地和检验的东西,在这些东西没有明朗化之前,投资的坑是非常多的,借信息不对称,借投资者不明就里的时间窗口,趁机割韭菜的人,多的是。</b></p>\n<p>对于投资者而言,如果有能力在早期就看透底层逻辑,发掘到投资机会,可以大胆押注;等到形势明朗化,出现向上拐点,或者出现爆发迹象之时,再押注,也不会晚;在狂热期,泡沫吹大之时,有能力跟随泡沫起舞的,也不失为押注时机,但如果没有能力急流勇退,还是多一份冷静好。</p>\n<p><b>现在,也正需要这样一份冷静。</b></p>","source":"gelonghui_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>自动驾驶需要一场泡沫</title>\n<style 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Waymo。\n\n但是,和手机操作系统稳定的双寡头格局不同的是,除了特斯拉和Google,还有很多其他的参与者,软硬件通吃的厂商就有通用、小鹏,百度、苹果也说要造车,软件厂商就更多了,名气大如华为,小一点的有Pony.ai、Nuro.ai、图森未来等,图森未来更成为首家登陆美股的自动驾驶软件厂商。\n所以,有人提出自动驾驶不应该只有“IOS”和“安卓”,而是百家争鸣的局面。\n这种说法也不是没有道理,从理论上讲,智能手机操作系统只需要搭建基础的框架,其他的应用有待开发者去完善,之后再形成完善的生态系统。\n开发者不需要是操作系统公司,可以是第三方公司,觉得哪些功能有需求,就自己在源代码的基础上开发APP,这就类似于政府把地块整理好,把自己应该承担的基础设施建设好,然后供地产商在上面建住宅也好,建商场也行,建厂房、建写字楼都行,最终形成完善的城市设施。\n而且,手机的应用场景非常多,金融的、购物的、社交的、娱乐的,全都给操作系统公司做,等于城市的所有设施都让政府建,这将相当费劲和相当低效,倒不如把这些任务交给第三方开发者,同时让他们分享成果,一旦和众多的开发者、用户绑定在一起,就很容易形成垄断优势,新进入的操作系统就很难有生存空间。\n这是妥妥的三赢。\n但是,自动驾驶系统不一样,作为用户,你总不能拿到一个“裸系统”,然后再自己去安装刹车APP、方向盘APP、自动泊车APP吧,这得是多差的用户体验?要是忘记安装哪个APP,是不是意味着自动驾驶不了了?更要命的是,忘了装刹车APP就开自动上路,万一该刹车时不刹,那不等于拿人命开玩笑?\n\n换句话说,开发商给到用户的,不应该是一个仅仅整理好的“地块”,也不应该只建了部分基础设施的“地块”,而应该是一座具备完善设施的“城市”。所以,自动驾驶系统一出来就应该是完善的,不能缺胳膊少腿,也不能寄希望于由第三方去完善,除非是一些非关键性的、加强体验性质的东西。\n另外,自动驾驶系统的功能相对单一,只是替代人去开车,不像手机有着太宽泛的应用,所以开发商本身也应该具备提供完善自动驾驶系统解决方案的能力。\n当然,作为开发商,在开发模式上,可以先做好基础架构,然后允许第三方开发者在上面添砖加瓦,事实上,百度就是这么做的,Apollo平台已经聚集了超过4.5万的开发者,这些做法并不矛盾,因为只要交付的是完善的系统方案即可。\n这么看来,自动驾驶系统好像真没必要一家或者两家独大,百家争鸣可能更有利于竞争,最终让消费者获益。相信这个逻辑也影响着众多入局自动驾驶的公司,给了他们前赴后继的勇气。\n事情果真如此吗?\n2\n百家争鸣真的可以实现?\n商业社会,质量、成本、效率是永远绕不开的“三角关系”。\n谁都希望得到“双高一低”--高质量、高效率同时低成本,但实际情况,这是“不可能三角”,顶多只能得到其中两个。把这个框架放在自动驾驶的百家争鸣上,冲突就随之而来。\n不同开发商的人才、资金、技术储备、开发效率都不一样,都来做这个事,重复开发不说,对各种资源的消耗,以及有可能出现的恶性竞争,显然和低成本背道而驰;即使每个开发商都能做出一样的质量、一样的成本,效率上也会有快慢,资金充足、人才丰富的会快一点,相反就有可能会慢一点;而如果既要高质量,又要高效率,那就得比拼谁的钱多,不同开发商手头的资金、融资能力、融资成本也是千差万别。\n不管从哪个角度看,都是既要又要还要的事,所以理论上不应该存在过多的自动驾驶系统开发商。\n只是,从开发商的角度,看法可能完全相反。\n在智能汽车最重要的应用场景,没有厂商希望自己变成局外人,如果在这场竞赛中能够最终获胜,那都是白花花的银子,这是相当有诱惑力的事情。往更长远的方向讲,传统造车有可能因为拥有自动驾驶开发能力,在汽车业的淘汰赛中占据主动,新势力也一样,软件公司则因为自动驾驶而开辟了新的蓝海。\n而且,现在新兴的产业机会并不多,好不容易等来了汽车业百年未有之大变局,当然要去搏杀,一开始就作壁上观,看着大好机会白白溜走,不是件好受的事。\n何况,现在才刚开战,胜负未分,敢于入场厮杀的公司,都不是吃素的,论资金、论人才、论技术储备,虽有差异,但说不上谁一定赢,谁一定输。既然如此,早早就退出,将市场拱手让人,这不是做生意应该有的姿态,即使最后战死,也好过一开始就做逃兵。\n公说公有理,婆说婆有理,最后只有交给市场。\n展望未来,从参与者的角度看,因为云集了太多开发商,自动驾驶市场将会非常热闹;从竞争的角度看,自动驾驶市场将上演残酷的厮杀;从路径发展上看,很可能是大佬入局--资本砸钱--泡沫催化--泡沫形成--泡沫破灭--涅槃重生。\n自动驾驶需要一场泡沫,也应该有一场泡沫。\n从资本的角度看,自动驾驶大概率会先来一场资本盛宴,然后演变成一场资本泡沫,最后泡沫破灭之后,走出了真正的强者。\n对于国家、产业、消费者和最后走出的强者,这场泡沫是“白洞”,因为它造就了百年汽车最重大的革命;而对于因此而倒下的开发商和资本方,这场泡沫将是巨大的“黑洞”,吞噬一切。\n3\n作为投资者,应该干嘛?\n言归投资,要避免掉进“黑洞”,就需要寻找产业链里最有价值的东西,有两个值得重点跟进。\n第一,AI芯片和算法,现在的竞争格局,基本成了巨头们的角力场,而且都是两者通吃,特斯拉有FSD芯片和算法,百度有昆仑芯片和Apollo,华为有麒麟芯片和鸿蒙,连小鹏也说要自研芯片,和自己的NGP形成呼应。所以,不管软件公司还是整车厂,如果没有足够实力同时拿下芯片和算法,却要声称自研自动驾驶系统,这类公司很可能掉队。\n当然,对于整车厂而言,并非个个都要自己做自动驾驶系统,可以选择购买其他软件厂商的系统,自己则专注于整车设计、生产、基建、营销、售后等环节,也不失为好的策略。\n自动驾驶的研发是烧钱的活儿,AI芯片和算法人才也都非常紧缺,巨头们都在第一时间锁住人才,论财力,巨头们也不缺。如果后面才介入,基本连汤都难喝到。\n所以,押注这个领域,除了巨头,貌似也没其他选择了。\n第二,激光雷达,“格隆汇研究”公众号在前期的文章《激光雷达,自动驾驶赛道的新宠儿》做过专门的分析,这里不再赘述。\n只讲一个最简单的底层逻辑,自动驾驶是人命关天的大事,对行驶过程中周遭的环境感知必须非常灵敏、精准和全面,而激光雷达这方面有着天然优势,远比摄像头、超声波雷达、毫米波雷达要牛。此前,激光雷达因为价格过万而被质疑商业化能力,现在华为已经成功将成本降到几百块的“白菜价”,量产障碍扫除,按照中国人做生意的脾性,后面会陆陆续续出现更多的激光雷达厂家。\n如果觉得这两个赛道太拥挤,也可以寻找一些细分领域有亮点公司,比如专注做卡车自动驾驶系统的开发商,这个领域有意思的地方在于,卡车的行驶场景和路线可以相对简单、固定,比如点对点的高速公路货运、港口装卸区的来回、工厂区的货物上下,这些地方容易实现人车分离,在港口区或者工厂区建空中行人区,人和车在空间上完全隔离,车上就没必要坐人,车撞人的概率就可以极大地降低。即使车撞上了,损失的是货物,不至于死人,因为人命才值钱。\n\n这些公司的领导人懂得,和巨头拼资金、拼人才,不一定拼得过,所以不如选择差异化路线,深入挖掘一下巨头暂时忽略的细分领域,开发难度、开发成本、竞争压力会相对低一些。退一万步讲,即使哪天巨头们后知后觉,要大举杀入的时候,自己还可以凭借长期的积累,保留被巨头收编的资格。\n4\n结语\n自动驾驶的出现,实现汽车业过去一百年都没能实现的事情,这是足够大的生意,也是足够大、足够多的投资机会。\n但是,这些赛道仍然有很多等待突破的东西,有许多需要商业化落地和检验的东西,在这些东西没有明朗化之前,投资的坑是非常多的,借信息不对称,借投资者不明就里的时间窗口,趁机割韭菜的人,多的是。\n对于投资者而言,如果有能力在早期就看透底层逻辑,发掘到投资机会,可以大胆押注;等到形势明朗化,出现向上拐点,或者出现爆发迹象之时,再押注,也不会晚;在狂热期,泡沫吹大之时,有能力跟随泡沫起舞的,也不失为押注时机,但如果没有能力急流勇退,还是多一份冷静好。\n现在,也正需要这样一份冷静。","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3452,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368699707,"gmtCreate":1614314640309,"gmtModify":1703476238494,"author":{"id":"3558516032969060","authorId":"3558516032969060","name":"crazySmurf","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23425014673c5a95a6121d6f441bcde6","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3558516032969060","authorIdStr":"3558516032969060"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368699707","repostId":"1140861561","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2213,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":382709921,"gmtCreate":1613480504063,"gmtModify":1613480504063,"author":{"id":"3558516032969060","authorId":"3558516032969060","name":"crazySmurf","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23425014673c5a95a6121d6f441bcde6","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3558516032969060","authorIdStr":"3558516032969060"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/382709921","repostId":"382220750","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":382220750,"gmtCreate":1613454417566,"gmtModify":1613525156783,"author":{"id":"35143291164259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