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pricing in a lot of future growth, and investors should consider what actual per-share returns might look like before deploying money at current valuations.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2fa1aea5535d99338f385c168062b218\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"852\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Fokusiert/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>普拉格能源活跃在一个具有巨大增长动力的有吸引力的行业中。</li><li>它服务于低风险客户，在行业中拥有强大的地位。</li><li>股价反映了未来的大量增长，投资者在以当前估值配置资金之前应该考虑实际每股回报可能是什么样子。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>Fokusiert/iStock来自Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. (PLUG) is active in a high-growth industry, which translates into a strong long-term business growth outlook, as long as the company can capitalize on its goals and management executes well. The company is, however, not profitable yet, and the path to meaningful net profits holds some uncertainties still. Taking a longer-term view, we can expect that Plug Power will generate positive net profits despite the fact that shares are valuing the company at a relatively high current valuation. From a risk-reward standpoint, there may be better picks available, though, despite the fact that I believe that shares will trade materially higher in 2031.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源公司（PLUG）活跃于高增长行业，只要公司能够实现其目标并且管理层执行良好，这就意味着强劲的长期业务增长前景。然而，该公司尚未盈利，实现有意义的净利润的道路仍然存在一些不确定性。从更长远的角度来看，我们可以预计普拉格能源将产生正的净利润，尽管该公司目前的估值相对较高。不过，从风险回报的角度来看，可能有更好的选择，尽管我相信2031年股价将大幅走高。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Price</b></p><p><blockquote><b>普拉格能源股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. has seen its share price move up and down violently over the last year:</p><p><blockquote>去年，普拉格能源公司的股价剧烈上下波动：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d940297249151eddcccf6440d20ef031\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来自YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Shares trade 130% higher than 12 months ago, but at the same time, shares trade at just one-third of the all-time high today. In early 2021, shares exploded upwards at a time when other renewable/new energy and related stocks, including EV plays, benefited from massive investor enthusiasm. Since then, enthusiasm seems to have cooled, and shares have reverted back to the $20s. At current prices, Plug Power, Inc. is valued at $16 billion based on a diluted share count of a little less than 600 million. Analysts are pretty bullish on the stock right now, as the consensus price target of $41 implies an upside potential of around 50% from current prices throughout the next year. It should be noted, however, that the analyst consensus price target has been lowered in recent months, and may continue to be lowered going forward. Due to non-existent profits PLUG can't be valued on an earnings basis, but shares trade for around 30x this year's revenue, which is quite expensive.</p><p><blockquote>股价比12个月前上涨了130%，但与此同时，股价仅为今天历史高点的三分之一。2021年初，其他可再生能源/新能源及相关股票（包括电动汽车）受益于投资者的巨大热情，股价大幅上涨。此后，热情似乎有所降温，股价又回到了20多美元。按目前价格计算，普拉格能源公司的估值为160亿美元，稀释后的股票数量略低于6亿股。分析师目前非常看好该股，因为41美元的一致目标价意味着明年较当前价格有50%左右的上涨潜力。但值得注意的是，近几个月来分析师一致的目标价已被下调，并且未来可能会继续下调。由于不存在利润，PLUG无法以盈利为基础进行估值，但股价约为今年收入的30倍，这相当昂贵。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Prediction</b></p><p><blockquote><b>普拉格能源股票预测</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. is active in an absolute growth industry, as hydrogen fuel cells will see huge demand growth in coming years as they allow for an environmentally friendly alternative to other fuels. Plug Power, as a turnkey provider in a market leadership position for this technology, is well-positioned to capitalize on this megatrend. Through a network of global partnerships, including with Brookfield Renewable Partners (BEP), Plug Power is working on growing the green hydrogen industryglobally:</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源公司活跃在一个绝对增长的行业，因为氢燃料电池将在未来几年看到巨大的需求增长，因为它们允许作为其他燃料的环保替代品。普拉格能源作为该技术市场领先地位的交钥匙供应商，完全有能力利用这一大趋势。通过包括Brookfield Renewable Partners(BEP)在内的全球合作伙伴网络，普拉格能源正在致力于在全球范围内发展绿色氢产业：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91a8e3b57882e429c9eace431bd1f541\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Plug Power presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源：普拉格能源演示</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power's green hydrogen can be used for powering trucks, busses, and other vehicles, while the company is also providing environmentally friendly alternatives to diesel generators in the megawatt scale range that can be used by utilities, for example. The company is, on top of that, also working on other ventures that are not ready to be commercialized yet, such as powering aircraft with hydrogen. Plug Power will have at least 5 hydrogen plants running in the US in 2024, i.e. three years from now, with more projects being in the pipeline both in the US and in overseas markets such as Europe.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源的绿色氢可用于为卡车、公共汽车和其他车辆提供动力，同时该公司还为公用事业公司使用的兆瓦级柴油发电机提供环保替代品。除此之外，该公司还致力于其他尚未准备好商业化的项目，例如用氢气为飞机提供动力。2024年，即三年后，普拉格能源将在美国运营至少5座氢气厂，美国以及欧洲等海外市场正在建设更多项目。</blockquote></p><p> 80% of Plug Power's customers are what the company calls blue chip customers, which includes companies such as Amazon (AMZN). These companies are oftentimes highly inclined to improve their CO2 footprint in order to receive better ESG ratings, and at the same time, these are low-risk customers as their strong balance sheets and cash flows mean that the risk of liquidity or solvency issues is negligible. Overall, Plug Power thus works with attractive counterparts, and their financial firepower means that Plug Power is not forced to sell its products at bargain prices, which is why the company has been able to generate relatively attractive product gross margins in the 30s in recent quarters.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源80%的客户是该公司的评级蓝筹客户，其中包括亚马逊（AMZN）等公司。这些公司通常非常倾向于改善其二氧化碳足迹，以获得更好的ESG评级，同时，这些公司是低风险客户，因为其强劲的资产负债表和现金流意味着流动性或偿付能力问题的风险可以忽略不计。总体而言，普拉格能源因此与有吸引力的同行合作，他们的财务火力意味着普拉格能源不会被迫以便宜的价格出售其产品，这就是为什么该公司最近几个季度能够产生相对有吸引力的产品毛利率在30年代。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Due to the still relatively small scale of the company, Plug Power is not profitable on a net basis or operating basis, however. The company's operating expenses, relative to the revenues that Plug Power generates, are still too high for now. This should, however, change over time, as operating leverage and improving product margins should allow Plug Power to grow gross profits relative to operating expenses, which will result in improving profitability. Analysts are currently predicting positive net profits for fiscal 2024, or three years from now. It would, of course, be better if Plug Power had hit that point already, but for long-term oriented investors, two more years of negative profits will not be a disaster.</p><p><blockquote>然而，由于公司规模仍然相对较小，普拉格能源在净利润或运营基础上均未盈利。相对于普拉格能源产生的收入，该公司的运营费用目前仍然过高。然而，这种情况应该会随着时间的推移而改变，因为运营杠杆和产品利润率的提高应该会使普拉格能源的毛利润相对于运营费用增长，从而提高盈利能力。分析师目前预测2024财年（即三年后）净利润为正。当然，如果普拉格能源已经达到了这一点，那就更好了，但对于长期投资者来说，再有两年的负利润并不是一场灾难。</blockquote></p><p> When investing in a company such as Plug Power, the very near term is not too relevant, but what matters more is the longer-term potential of the company to grow its revenue and profits. Through the combination of ESG tailwinds, massive market growth, and its market leadership position, Plug Power seems to be well-positioned to grow its revenue for many years to come:</p><p><blockquote>在投资普拉格能源这样的公司时，短期并不太重要，但更重要的是公司收入和利润增长的长期潜力。通过ESG顺风、大规模市场增长及其市场领导地位的结合，普拉格能源似乎处于有利地位，可以在未来许多年增加收入：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4d6f0576ba51f219d85b18d90ccaf6f4\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"628\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source:Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源：寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are currently predicting that revenues will grow at 50%+ a year over the next three years, while growth is forecasted to remain almost 30% through at least 2030, which equates to a highly attractive long-term growth outlook. There are, of course, no guarantees that this will indeed happen, as some risks to the business model remain. The company is not profitable yet, thus funding of future growth projects could theoretically become a problem. On top of that, it is possible that other players with deep pockets will try to disrupt the market or gain market share. The risk of that is, I believe, due to Plug Power's leadership position, not very large. But should the market become more competitive, non-profitable Plug Power might run into problems if it were to run into market share fights that could pressure margins.</p><p><blockquote>分析师目前预测，未来三年收入将以每年50%以上的速度增长，而至少到2030年，增长率预计将保持近30%，这相当于极具吸引力的长期增长前景。当然，不能保证这种情况确实会发生，因为商业模式的一些风险仍然存在。该公司尚未盈利，因此未来增长项目的资金理论上可能会成为一个问题。最重要的是，其他财力雄厚的参与者可能会试图扰乱市场或获得市场份额。我相信，由于普拉格能源的领导地位，这种风险并不是很大。但如果市场竞争变得更加激烈，非盈利的普拉格能源如果遭遇市场份额争夺战，可能会给利润率带来压力，可能会遇到问题。</blockquote></p><p> Some execution risks do thus remain for sure, and investors shouldn't see the above growth projections as crystal-clear forecasts that are infallible. Instead, however, the above predictions showcase what a base-case scenario could look like, and actual results might be better or worse than that. Overall, it can be said that the longer-term outlook for Plug Power's business is excellent, as the company should be able to grow at an attractive pace for many years to come, as investors, companies, and consumers put more and more emphasis on a smaller carbon footprint. Obvious growth prospects for an industry do not, however, automatically translate into share price gains. Those that bought shares of Cisco (CSCO) at the highs during the dot.com bubble, for example, are still in the red today, 22 years later, despite the massive growth the business has experienced in that time frame. Valuations should be considered as well, and Plug Power is far from cheap today.</p><p><blockquote>因此，一些执行风险确实仍然存在，投资者不应将上述增长预测视为绝对可靠的清晰预测。然而，相反，上述预测展示了基本情况可能是什么样子，实际结果可能比这更好或更差。总体而言，可以说普拉格能源业务的长期前景非常好，因为随着投资者、公司和消费者越来越重视更小的碳足迹，该公司应该能够在未来许多年以有吸引力的速度增长。然而，一个行业明显的增长前景并不会自动转化为股价上涨。例如，那些在互联网泡沫期间高位购买思科(CSCO)股票的公司，尽管该业务在此期间经历了巨大增长，但22年后的今天仍然处于亏损状态。估值也应该考虑，普拉格能源今天的价格远非便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Forecast For 2030</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2030年普拉格能源股票预测</b></blockquote></p><p> Today, Plug Power is trading for around 32x this year's expected revenue. If that was an earnings multiple, the stock still wouldn't be especially cheap, relative to how the average company is valued. At more than 30x sales, shares do seem very expensive. When we consider PLUG's growth outlook over the coming decade, that is relativized to some degree, but I believe that shares are still trading above fair value.</p><p><blockquote>如今，普拉格能源的股价约为今年预期收入的32倍。如果这是市盈率，相对于公司的平均估值，该股仍然不会特别便宜。以超过30倍的销售额计算，股价确实看起来非常昂贵。当我们考虑PLUG未来十年的增长前景时，这在某种程度上是相对的，但我相信股价仍高于公允价值。</blockquote></p><p> If the analyst consensus estimate for 2030's revenues is correct, at $10.5 billion, then shares are trading at around 1.5x 2030's revenue right now. Many industrial names are trading for 1x to 2x this year's revenue right now, which indicates how much future growth is priced into PLUG's stock already. One can, of course, argue that PLUG's growth outlook in 2030 is likely still better than that of the average company today, as it seems very much possible for PLUG to grow at a double-digit rate well beyond 2030. But still, shares upside for PLUG's shares is not too great over the coming decade, I believe.</p><p><blockquote>如果分析师对2030年收入的一致估计是正确的，为105亿美元，那么目前股价的交易价格约为2030年收入的1.5倍。许多工业公司目前的交易价格是今年收入的1至2倍，这表明PLUG的股票已经反映了未来的增长。当然，人们可以说，PLUG在2030年的增长前景可能仍好于当今的普通公司，因为PLUG很有可能在2030年之后以两位数的速度增长。但我相信，PLUG股价在未来十年的上涨空间不会太大。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> If PLUG were to trade at a still relatively steep 3.5x revenue in 2030, this gets us to a market cap estimate of around $37billion, or roughly 2.3x as much as today. PLUG's share count will, however, not stay unchanged over the next decade, which is why returns on a per-share basis will be lower than that. If we assume that the share count climbs by just 2% a year, 2030's share count will stand at a little above 700 million. At a $37 billion market capitalization, each individual stock would then trade at around $53, which would mean a return of ~100% from today. On an annual basis, this would equate to returns of 8%. 8% annual returns are far from bad, but many things have to go right for that to happen -- PLUG has to execute well, deliver on growth projects, and avoid massive share issuance. When we also consider that this estimate requires a still rather high 3.5x sales multiple in 2030, then those returns are not great enough to warrant a buy rating, I believe. It would be different of 8% returns could come from a very de-risked blue chip with very low uncertainties, but that is not the case here. For reference, if PLUG executes well and hits growth estimates, but its shares trade for 2.5x sales in 2030, then the share price, assuming 2% annual dilution, would be $37, which would equate to just 4% annual returns. PLUG's share count has risen by around 50% over the last year alone, and even though I don't expect similar dilution in coming years, it is at least possible for PLUG's share count to rise by significantly more than 2% a year, which would pressure returns further.</p><p><blockquote>如果PLUG在2030年的交易收入仍然相对较高的3.5倍，那么我们的市值估计约为370亿美元，大约是今天的2.3倍。然而，PLUG的股票数量在未来十年不会保持不变，这就是为什么每股回报率将低于这一数字。如果我们假设股票数量每年仅增长2%，那么2030年的股票数量将略高于7亿股。在370亿美元的市值下，每只股票的交易价格约为53美元，这意味着从今天起的回报率约为100%。按年计算，这相当于8%的回报率。8%的年回报率远非坏事，但要实现这一目标，许多事情必须顺利进行——PLUG必须执行良好，交付增长项目，并避免大规模股票发行。当我们还考虑到这一估计需要2030年仍然相当高的3.5倍销售倍数时，我相信这些回报还不足以保证买入评级。8%的回报可能来自风险非常低、不确定性非常低的蓝筹股，但这里的情况并非如此。作为参考，如果PLUG执行良好并达到增长预期，但其股价在2030年的交易价格为销售额的2.5倍，那么假设年稀释2%，股价将为37美元，这相当于年回报率仅为4%。仅去年一年，PLUG的股票数量就增加了约50%，尽管我预计未来几年不会出现类似的稀释，但PLUG的股票数量至少有可能每年大幅增加2%以上，这将进一步给回报带来压力。</blockquote></p><p> Overall, I do not believe that investors will lose money with PLUG over the next decade or more. But I also do not believe that investors will see very attractive returns in that time frame, despite the fact that Plug Power's underlying business growth outlook is highly attractive. Shares are pricing in a lot of future growth already, and I believe that returns in the sub-10% range can also be generated through lower-risk investments, with less volatile stocks.</p><p><blockquote>总体而言，我不认为投资者在未来十年或更长时间内会因PLUG而亏损。但我也不相信投资者会在这段时间内看到非常有吸引力的回报，尽管普拉格能源的基本业务增长前景非常有吸引力。股票已经反映了未来的大量增长，我相信通过风险较低、股票波动性较小的投资也可以产生低于10%的回报。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Conclusion: Where Could Plug Power Be In 10 Years?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>结论：10年后普拉格能源会在哪里？</b></blockquote></p><p> One can't know that today, but we can make educated guesses. According to may scenarios laid out above, PLUG could trade at $37-$55 in 2030, factoring in another year of growth, we could end up at $40-$60 in 2031, I believe -- if many things go right. In case there are major hiccups with growth projects, or if the share count rises more than expected, these estimates may be too high.</p><p><blockquote>今天人们无法知道这一点，但我们可以做出有根据的猜测。根据上面列出的5月份情景，PLUG在2030年的交易价格可能为37-55美元，考虑到又一年的增长，我相信，如果很多事情进展顺利，我们在2031年的交易价格可能会达到40-60美元。如果增长项目出现重大问题，或者股票数量增长超过预期，这些估计可能会过高。</blockquote></p><p> Overall, I believe that there is considerable long-term upside potential for PLUG's shares, but expected returns in the mid-to-high-single digits range are not gigantic, and the same returns can be generated through more mature, less volatile investments with fewer uncertainties and less execution risk. I thus do think that PLUG is not a buy right here, even though I like the company's growth prospects and its position in an attractive industry.</p><p><blockquote>总体而言，我认为PLUG的股票有相当大的长期上涨潜力，但中高个位数范围的预期回报并不巨大，通过更成熟、波动性更小的投资可以产生相同的回报，不确定性更少，执行风险更小。因此，我确实认为PLUG在这里不值得买入，尽管我喜欢该公司的增长前景及其在有吸引力的行业中的地位。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Where Will Plug Power Be In 10 Years?<blockquote>10年后的普拉格能源会在哪里？</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhere Will Plug Power Be In 10 Years?<blockquote>10年后的普拉格能源会在哪里？</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-15 08:48</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul>  <li>Plug Power is active in an attractive industry with huge growth tailwinds.</li>  <li>It serves low-risk customers and has a strong position in its industry.</li>  <li>Shares are pricing in a lot of future growth, and investors should consider what actual per-share returns might look like before deploying money at current valuations.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2fa1aea5535d99338f385c168062b218\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"852\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Fokusiert/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>普拉格能源活跃在一个具有巨大增长动力的有吸引力的行业中。</li><li>它服务于低风险客户，在行业中拥有强大的地位。</li><li>股价反映了未来的大量增长，投资者在以当前估值配置资金之前应该考虑实际每股回报可能是什么样子。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>Fokusiert/iStock来自Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. (PLUG) is active in a high-growth industry, which translates into a strong long-term business growth outlook, as long as the company can capitalize on its goals and management executes well. The company is, however, not profitable yet, and the path to meaningful net profits holds some uncertainties still. Taking a longer-term view, we can expect that Plug Power will generate positive net profits despite the fact that shares are valuing the company at a relatively high current valuation. From a risk-reward standpoint, there may be better picks available, though, despite the fact that I believe that shares will trade materially higher in 2031.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源公司（PLUG）活跃于高增长行业，只要公司能够实现其目标并且管理层执行良好，这就意味着强劲的长期业务增长前景。然而，该公司尚未盈利，实现有意义的净利润的道路仍然存在一些不确定性。从更长远的角度来看，我们可以预计普拉格能源将产生正的净利润，尽管该公司目前的估值相对较高。不过，从风险回报的角度来看，可能有更好的选择，尽管我相信2031年股价将大幅走高。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Price</b></p><p><blockquote><b>普拉格能源股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. has seen its share price move up and down violently over the last year:</p><p><blockquote>去年，普拉格能源公司的股价剧烈上下波动：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d940297249151eddcccf6440d20ef031\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来自YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Shares trade 130% higher than 12 months ago, but at the same time, shares trade at just one-third of the all-time high today. In early 2021, shares exploded upwards at a time when other renewable/new energy and related stocks, including EV plays, benefited from massive investor enthusiasm. Since then, enthusiasm seems to have cooled, and shares have reverted back to the $20s. At current prices, Plug Power, Inc. is valued at $16 billion based on a diluted share count of a little less than 600 million. Analysts are pretty bullish on the stock right now, as the consensus price target of $41 implies an upside potential of around 50% from current prices throughout the next year. It should be noted, however, that the analyst consensus price target has been lowered in recent months, and may continue to be lowered going forward. Due to non-existent profits PLUG can't be valued on an earnings basis, but shares trade for around 30x this year's revenue, which is quite expensive.</p><p><blockquote>股价比12个月前上涨了130%，但与此同时，股价仅为今天历史高点的三分之一。2021年初，其他可再生能源/新能源及相关股票（包括电动汽车）受益于投资者的巨大热情，股价大幅上涨。此后，热情似乎有所降温，股价又回到了20多美元。按目前价格计算，普拉格能源公司的估值为160亿美元，稀释后的股票数量略低于6亿股。分析师目前非常看好该股，因为41美元的一致目标价意味着明年较当前价格有50%左右的上涨潜力。但值得注意的是，近几个月来分析师一致的目标价已被下调，并且未来可能会继续下调。由于不存在利润，PLUG无法以盈利为基础进行估值，但股价约为今年收入的30倍，这相当昂贵。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Prediction</b></p><p><blockquote><b>普拉格能源股票预测</b></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power, Inc. is active in an absolute growth industry, as hydrogen fuel cells will see huge demand growth in coming years as they allow for an environmentally friendly alternative to other fuels. Plug Power, as a turnkey provider in a market leadership position for this technology, is well-positioned to capitalize on this megatrend. Through a network of global partnerships, including with Brookfield Renewable Partners (BEP), Plug Power is working on growing the green hydrogen industryglobally:</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源公司活跃在一个绝对增长的行业，因为氢燃料电池将在未来几年看到巨大的需求增长，因为它们允许作为其他燃料的环保替代品。普拉格能源作为该技术市场领先地位的交钥匙供应商，完全有能力利用这一大趋势。通过包括Brookfield Renewable Partners(BEP)在内的全球合作伙伴网络，普拉格能源正在致力于在全球范围内发展绿色氢产业：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/91a8e3b57882e429c9eace431bd1f541\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"350\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Plug Power presentation</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源：普拉格能源演示</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Plug Power's green hydrogen can be used for powering trucks, busses, and other vehicles, while the company is also providing environmentally friendly alternatives to diesel generators in the megawatt scale range that can be used by utilities, for example. The company is, on top of that, also working on other ventures that are not ready to be commercialized yet, such as powering aircraft with hydrogen. Plug Power will have at least 5 hydrogen plants running in the US in 2024, i.e. three years from now, with more projects being in the pipeline both in the US and in overseas markets such as Europe.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源的绿色氢可用于为卡车、公共汽车和其他车辆提供动力，同时该公司还为公用事业公司使用的兆瓦级柴油发电机提供环保替代品。除此之外，该公司还致力于其他尚未准备好商业化的项目，例如用氢气为飞机提供动力。2024年，即三年后，普拉格能源将在美国运营至少5座氢气厂，美国以及欧洲等海外市场正在建设更多项目。</blockquote></p><p> 80% of Plug Power's customers are what the company calls blue chip customers, which includes companies such as Amazon (AMZN). These companies are oftentimes highly inclined to improve their CO2 footprint in order to receive better ESG ratings, and at the same time, these are low-risk customers as their strong balance sheets and cash flows mean that the risk of liquidity or solvency issues is negligible. Overall, Plug Power thus works with attractive counterparts, and their financial firepower means that Plug Power is not forced to sell its products at bargain prices, which is why the company has been able to generate relatively attractive product gross margins in the 30s in recent quarters.</p><p><blockquote>普拉格能源80%的客户是该公司的评级蓝筹客户，其中包括亚马逊（AMZN）等公司。这些公司通常非常倾向于改善其二氧化碳足迹，以获得更好的ESG评级，同时，这些公司是低风险客户，因为其强劲的资产负债表和现金流意味着流动性或偿付能力问题的风险可以忽略不计。总体而言，普拉格能源因此与有吸引力的同行合作，他们的财务火力意味着普拉格能源不会被迫以便宜的价格出售其产品，这就是为什么该公司最近几个季度能够产生相对有吸引力的产品毛利率在30年代。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> Due to the still relatively small scale of the company, Plug Power is not profitable on a net basis or operating basis, however. The company's operating expenses, relative to the revenues that Plug Power generates, are still too high for now. This should, however, change over time, as operating leverage and improving product margins should allow Plug Power to grow gross profits relative to operating expenses, which will result in improving profitability. Analysts are currently predicting positive net profits for fiscal 2024, or three years from now. It would, of course, be better if Plug Power had hit that point already, but for long-term oriented investors, two more years of negative profits will not be a disaster.</p><p><blockquote>然而，由于公司规模仍然相对较小，普拉格能源在净利润或运营基础上均未盈利。相对于普拉格能源产生的收入，该公司的运营费用目前仍然过高。然而，这种情况应该会随着时间的推移而改变，因为运营杠杆和产品利润率的提高应该会使普拉格能源的毛利润相对于运营费用增长，从而提高盈利能力。分析师目前预测2024财年（即三年后）净利润为正。当然，如果普拉格能源已经达到了这一点，那就更好了，但对于长期投资者来说，再有两年的负利润并不是一场灾难。</blockquote></p><p> When investing in a company such as Plug Power, the very near term is not too relevant, but what matters more is the longer-term potential of the company to grow its revenue and profits. Through the combination of ESG tailwinds, massive market growth, and its market leadership position, Plug Power seems to be well-positioned to grow its revenue for many years to come:</p><p><blockquote>在投资普拉格能源这样的公司时，短期并不太重要，但更重要的是公司收入和利润增长的长期潜力。通过ESG顺风、大规模市场增长及其市场领导地位的结合，普拉格能源似乎处于有利地位，可以在未来许多年增加收入：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4d6f0576ba51f219d85b18d90ccaf6f4\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"628\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source:Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源：寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are currently predicting that revenues will grow at 50%+ a year over the next three years, while growth is forecasted to remain almost 30% through at least 2030, which equates to a highly attractive long-term growth outlook. There are, of course, no guarantees that this will indeed happen, as some risks to the business model remain. The company is not profitable yet, thus funding of future growth projects could theoretically become a problem. On top of that, it is possible that other players with deep pockets will try to disrupt the market or gain market share. The risk of that is, I believe, due to Plug Power's leadership position, not very large. But should the market become more competitive, non-profitable Plug Power might run into problems if it were to run into market share fights that could pressure margins.</p><p><blockquote>分析师目前预测，未来三年收入将以每年50%以上的速度增长，而至少到2030年，增长率预计将保持近30%，这相当于极具吸引力的长期增长前景。当然，不能保证这种情况确实会发生，因为商业模式的一些风险仍然存在。该公司尚未盈利，因此未来增长项目的资金理论上可能会成为一个问题。最重要的是，其他财力雄厚的参与者可能会试图扰乱市场或获得市场份额。我相信，由于普拉格能源的领导地位，这种风险并不是很大。但如果市场竞争变得更加激烈，非盈利的普拉格能源如果遭遇市场份额争夺战，可能会给利润率带来压力，可能会遇到问题。</blockquote></p><p> Some execution risks do thus remain for sure, and investors shouldn't see the above growth projections as crystal-clear forecasts that are infallible. Instead, however, the above predictions showcase what a base-case scenario could look like, and actual results might be better or worse than that. Overall, it can be said that the longer-term outlook for Plug Power's business is excellent, as the company should be able to grow at an attractive pace for many years to come, as investors, companies, and consumers put more and more emphasis on a smaller carbon footprint. Obvious growth prospects for an industry do not, however, automatically translate into share price gains. Those that bought shares of Cisco (CSCO) at the highs during the dot.com bubble, for example, are still in the red today, 22 years later, despite the massive growth the business has experienced in that time frame. Valuations should be considered as well, and Plug Power is far from cheap today.</p><p><blockquote>因此，一些执行风险确实仍然存在，投资者不应将上述增长预测视为绝对可靠的清晰预测。然而，相反，上述预测展示了基本情况可能是什么样子，实际结果可能比这更好或更差。总体而言，可以说普拉格能源业务的长期前景非常好，因为随着投资者、公司和消费者越来越重视更小的碳足迹，该公司应该能够在未来许多年以有吸引力的速度增长。然而，一个行业明显的增长前景并不会自动转化为股价上涨。例如，那些在互联网泡沫期间高位购买思科(CSCO)股票的公司，尽管该业务在此期间经历了巨大增长，但22年后的今天仍然处于亏损状态。估值也应该考虑，普拉格能源今天的价格远非便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Plug Power Stock Forecast For 2030</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2030年普拉格能源股票预测</b></blockquote></p><p> Today, Plug Power is trading for around 32x this year's expected revenue. If that was an earnings multiple, the stock still wouldn't be especially cheap, relative to how the average company is valued. At more than 30x sales, shares do seem very expensive. When we consider PLUG's growth outlook over the coming decade, that is relativized to some degree, but I believe that shares are still trading above fair value.</p><p><blockquote>如今，普拉格能源的股价约为今年预期收入的32倍。如果这是市盈率，相对于公司的平均估值，该股仍然不会特别便宜。以超过30倍的销售额计算，股价确实看起来非常昂贵。当我们考虑PLUG未来十年的增长前景时，这在某种程度上是相对的，但我相信股价仍高于公允价值。</blockquote></p><p> If the analyst consensus estimate for 2030's revenues is correct, at $10.5 billion, then shares are trading at around 1.5x 2030's revenue right now. Many industrial names are trading for 1x to 2x this year's revenue right now, which indicates how much future growth is priced into PLUG's stock already. One can, of course, argue that PLUG's growth outlook in 2030 is likely still better than that of the average company today, as it seems very much possible for PLUG to grow at a double-digit rate well beyond 2030. But still, shares upside for PLUG's shares is not too great over the coming decade, I believe.</p><p><blockquote>如果分析师对2030年收入的一致估计是正确的，为105亿美元，那么目前股价的交易价格约为2030年收入的1.5倍。许多工业公司目前的交易价格是今年收入的1至2倍，这表明PLUG的股票已经反映了未来的增长。当然，人们可以说，PLUG在2030年的增长前景可能仍好于当今的普通公司，因为PLUG很有可能在2030年之后以两位数的速度增长。但我相信，PLUG股价在未来十年的上涨空间不会太大。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> If PLUG were to trade at a still relatively steep 3.5x revenue in 2030, this gets us to a market cap estimate of around $37billion, or roughly 2.3x as much as today. PLUG's share count will, however, not stay unchanged over the next decade, which is why returns on a per-share basis will be lower than that. If we assume that the share count climbs by just 2% a year, 2030's share count will stand at a little above 700 million. At a $37 billion market capitalization, each individual stock would then trade at around $53, which would mean a return of ~100% from today. On an annual basis, this would equate to returns of 8%. 8% annual returns are far from bad, but many things have to go right for that to happen -- PLUG has to execute well, deliver on growth projects, and avoid massive share issuance. When we also consider that this estimate requires a still rather high 3.5x sales multiple in 2030, then those returns are not great enough to warrant a buy rating, I believe. It would be different of 8% returns could come from a very de-risked blue chip with very low uncertainties, but that is not the case here. For reference, if PLUG executes well and hits growth estimates, but its shares trade for 2.5x sales in 2030, then the share price, assuming 2% annual dilution, would be $37, which would equate to just 4% annual returns. PLUG's share count has risen by around 50% over the last year alone, and even though I don't expect similar dilution in coming years, it is at least possible for PLUG's share count to rise by significantly more than 2% a year, which would pressure returns further.</p><p><blockquote>如果PLUG在2030年的交易收入仍然相对较高的3.5倍，那么我们的市值估计约为370亿美元，大约是今天的2.3倍。然而，PLUG的股票数量在未来十年不会保持不变，这就是为什么每股回报率将低于这一数字。如果我们假设股票数量每年仅增长2%，那么2030年的股票数量将略高于7亿股。在370亿美元的市值下，每只股票的交易价格约为53美元，这意味着从今天起的回报率约为100%。按年计算，这相当于8%的回报率。8%的年回报率远非坏事，但要实现这一目标，许多事情必须顺利进行——PLUG必须执行良好，交付增长项目，并避免大规模股票发行。当我们还考虑到这一估计需要2030年仍然相当高的3.5倍销售倍数时，我相信这些回报还不足以保证买入评级。8%的回报可能来自风险非常低、不确定性非常低的蓝筹股，但这里的情况并非如此。作为参考，如果PLUG执行良好并达到增长预期，但其股价在2030年的交易价格为销售额的2.5倍，那么假设年稀释2%，股价将为37美元，这相当于年回报率仅为4%。仅去年一年，PLUG的股票数量就增加了约50%，尽管我预计未来几年不会出现类似的稀释，但PLUG的股票数量至少有可能每年大幅增加2%以上，这将进一步给回报带来压力。</blockquote></p><p> Overall, I do not believe that investors will lose money with PLUG over the next decade or more. But I also do not believe that investors will see very attractive returns in that time frame, despite the fact that Plug Power's underlying business growth outlook is highly attractive. Shares are pricing in a lot of future growth already, and I believe that returns in the sub-10% range can also be generated through lower-risk investments, with less volatile stocks.</p><p><blockquote>总体而言，我不认为投资者在未来十年或更长时间内会因PLUG而亏损。但我也不相信投资者会在这段时间内看到非常有吸引力的回报，尽管普拉格能源的基本业务增长前景非常有吸引力。股票已经反映了未来的大量增长，我相信通过风险较低、股票波动性较小的投资也可以产生低于10%的回报。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Conclusion: Where Could Plug Power Be In 10 Years?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>结论：10年后普拉格能源会在哪里？</b></blockquote></p><p> One can't know that today, but we can make educated guesses. According to may scenarios laid out above, PLUG could trade at $37-$55 in 2030, factoring in another year of growth, we could end up at $40-$60 in 2031, I believe -- if many things go right. In case there are major hiccups with growth projects, or if the share count rises more than expected, these estimates may be too high.</p><p><blockquote>今天人们无法知道这一点，但我们可以做出有根据的猜测。根据上面列出的5月份情景，PLUG在2030年的交易价格可能为37-55美元，考虑到又一年的增长，我相信，如果很多事情进展顺利，我们在2031年的交易价格可能会达到40-60美元。如果增长项目出现重大问题，或者股票数量增长超过预期，这些估计可能会过高。</blockquote></p><p> Overall, I believe that there is considerable long-term upside potential for PLUG's shares, but expected returns in the mid-to-high-single digits range are not gigantic, and the same returns can be generated through more mature, less volatile investments with fewer uncertainties and less execution risk. I thus do think that PLUG is not a buy right here, even though I like the company's growth prospects and its position in an attractive industry.</p><p><blockquote>总体而言，我认为PLUG的股票有相当大的长期上涨潜力，但中高个位数范围的预期回报并不巨大，通过更成熟、波动性更小的投资可以产生相同的回报，不确定性更少，执行风险更小。因此，我确实认为PLUG在这里不值得买入，尽管我喜欢该公司的增长前景及其在有吸引力的行业中的地位。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4449266-plug-power-stock-in-10-years\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLUG":"普拉格能源"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4449266-plug-power-stock-in-10-years","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1133270372","content_text":"Summary\n\nPlug Power is active in an attractive industry with huge growth tailwinds.\nIt serves low-risk customers and has a strong position in its industry.\nShares are pricing in a lot of future growth, and investors should consider what actual per-share returns might look like before deploying money at current valuations.\n\nFokusiert/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPlug Power, Inc. (PLUG) is active in a high-growth industry, which translates into a strong long-term business growth outlook, as long as the company can capitalize on its goals and management executes well. The company is, however, not profitable yet, and the path to meaningful net profits holds some uncertainties still. Taking a longer-term view, we can expect that Plug Power will generate positive net profits despite the fact that shares are valuing the company at a relatively high current valuation. From a risk-reward standpoint, there may be better picks available, though, despite the fact that I believe that shares will trade materially higher in 2031.\nPlug Power Stock Price\nPlug Power, Inc. has seen its share price move up and down violently over the last year:\nData by YCharts\nShares trade 130% higher than 12 months ago, but at the same time, shares trade at just one-third of the all-time high today. In early 2021, shares exploded upwards at a time when other renewable/new energy and related stocks, including EV plays, benefited from massive investor enthusiasm. Since then, enthusiasm seems to have cooled, and shares have reverted back to the $20s. At current prices, Plug Power, Inc. is valued at $16 billion based on a diluted share count of a little less than 600 million. Analysts are pretty bullish on the stock right now, as the consensus price target of $41 implies an upside potential of around 50% from current prices throughout the next year. It should be noted, however, that the analyst consensus price target has been lowered in recent months, and may continue to be lowered going forward. Due to non-existent profits PLUG can't be valued on an earnings basis, but shares trade for around 30x this year's revenue, which is quite expensive.\nPlug Power Stock Prediction\nPlug Power, Inc. is active in an absolute growth industry, as hydrogen fuel cells will see huge demand growth in coming years as they allow for an environmentally friendly alternative to other fuels. Plug Power, as a turnkey provider in a market leadership position for this technology, is well-positioned to capitalize on this megatrend. Through a network of global partnerships, including with Brookfield Renewable Partners (BEP), Plug Power is working on growing the green hydrogen industryglobally:\nSource: Plug Power presentation\nPlug Power's green hydrogen can be used for powering trucks, busses, and other vehicles, while the company is also providing environmentally friendly alternatives to diesel generators in the megawatt scale range that can be used by utilities, for example. The company is, on top of that, also working on other ventures that are not ready to be commercialized yet, such as powering aircraft with hydrogen. Plug Power will have at least 5 hydrogen plants running in the US in 2024, i.e. three years from now, with more projects being in the pipeline both in the US and in overseas markets such as Europe.\n80% of Plug Power's customers are what the company calls blue chip customers, which includes companies such as Amazon (AMZN). These companies are oftentimes highly inclined to improve their CO2 footprint in order to receive better ESG ratings, and at the same time, these are low-risk customers as their strong balance sheets and cash flows mean that the risk of liquidity or solvency issues is negligible. Overall, Plug Power thus works with attractive counterparts, and their financial firepower means that Plug Power is not forced to sell its products at bargain prices, which is why the company has been able to generate relatively attractive product gross margins in the 30s in recent quarters.\nDue to the still relatively small scale of the company, Plug Power is not profitable on a net basis or operating basis, however. The company's operating expenses, relative to the revenues that Plug Power generates, are still too high for now. This should, however, change over time, as operating leverage and improving product margins should allow Plug Power to grow gross profits relative to operating expenses, which will result in improving profitability. Analysts are currently predicting positive net profits for fiscal 2024, or three years from now. It would, of course, be better if Plug Power had hit that point already, but for long-term oriented investors, two more years of negative profits will not be a disaster.\nWhen investing in a company such as Plug Power, the very near term is not too relevant, but what matters more is the longer-term potential of the company to grow its revenue and profits. Through the combination of ESG tailwinds, massive market growth, and its market leadership position, Plug Power seems to be well-positioned to grow its revenue for many years to come:\nSource:Seeking Alpha\nAnalysts are currently predicting that revenues will grow at 50%+ a year over the next three years, while growth is forecasted to remain almost 30% through at least 2030, which equates to a highly attractive long-term growth outlook. There are, of course, no guarantees that this will indeed happen, as some risks to the business model remain. The company is not profitable yet, thus funding of future growth projects could theoretically become a problem. On top of that, it is possible that other players with deep pockets will try to disrupt the market or gain market share. The risk of that is, I believe, due to Plug Power's leadership position, not very large. But should the market become more competitive, non-profitable Plug Power might run into problems if it were to run into market share fights that could pressure margins.\nSome execution risks do thus remain for sure, and investors shouldn't see the above growth projections as crystal-clear forecasts that are infallible. Instead, however, the above predictions showcase what a base-case scenario could look like, and actual results might be better or worse than that. Overall, it can be said that the longer-term outlook for Plug Power's business is excellent, as the company should be able to grow at an attractive pace for many years to come, as investors, companies, and consumers put more and more emphasis on a smaller carbon footprint. Obvious growth prospects for an industry do not, however, automatically translate into share price gains. Those that bought shares of Cisco (CSCO) at the highs during the dot.com bubble, for example, are still in the red today, 22 years later, despite the massive growth the business has experienced in that time frame. Valuations should be considered as well, and Plug Power is far from cheap today.\nPlug Power Stock Forecast For 2030\nToday, Plug Power is trading for around 32x this year's expected revenue. If that was an earnings multiple, the stock still wouldn't be especially cheap, relative to how the average company is valued. At more than 30x sales, shares do seem very expensive. When we consider PLUG's growth outlook over the coming decade, that is relativized to some degree, but I believe that shares are still trading above fair value.\nIf the analyst consensus estimate for 2030's revenues is correct, at $10.5 billion, then shares are trading at around 1.5x 2030's revenue right now. Many industrial names are trading for 1x to 2x this year's revenue right now, which indicates how much future growth is priced into PLUG's stock already. One can, of course, argue that PLUG's growth outlook in 2030 is likely still better than that of the average company today, as it seems very much possible for PLUG to grow at a double-digit rate well beyond 2030. But still, shares upside for PLUG's shares is not too great over the coming decade, I believe.\nIf PLUG were to trade at a still relatively steep 3.5x revenue in 2030, this gets us to a market cap estimate of around $37billion, or roughly 2.3x as much as today. PLUG's share count will, however, not stay unchanged over the next decade, which is why returns on a per-share basis will be lower than that. If we assume that the share count climbs by just 2% a year, 2030's share count will stand at a little above 700 million. At a $37 billion market capitalization, each individual stock would then trade at around $53, which would mean a return of ~100% from today. On an annual basis, this would equate to returns of 8%. 8% annual returns are far from bad, but many things have to go right for that to happen -- PLUG has to execute well, deliver on growth projects, and avoid massive share issuance. When we also consider that this estimate requires a still rather high 3.5x sales multiple in 2030, then those returns are not great enough to warrant a buy rating, I believe. It would be different of 8% returns could come from a very de-risked blue chip with very low uncertainties, but that is not the case here. For reference, if PLUG executes well and hits growth estimates, but its shares trade for 2.5x sales in 2030, then the share price, assuming 2% annual dilution, would be $37, which would equate to just 4% annual returns. PLUG's share count has risen by around 50% over the last year alone, and even though I don't expect similar dilution in coming years, it is at least possible for PLUG's share count to rise by significantly more than 2% a year, which would pressure returns further.\nOverall, I do not believe that investors will lose money with PLUG over the next decade or more. But I also do not believe that investors will see very attractive returns in that time frame, despite the fact that Plug Power's underlying business growth outlook is highly attractive. Shares are pricing in a lot of future growth already, and I believe that returns in the sub-10% range can also be generated through lower-risk investments, with less volatile stocks.\nConclusion: Where Could Plug Power Be In 10 Years?\nOne can't know that today, but we can make educated guesses. According to may scenarios laid out above, PLUG could trade at $37-$55 in 2030, factoring in another year of growth, we could end up at $40-$60 in 2031, I believe -- if many things go right. In case there are major hiccups with growth projects, or if the share count rises more than expected, these estimates may be too high.\nOverall, I believe that there is considerable long-term upside potential for PLUG's shares, but expected returns in the mid-to-high-single digits range are not gigantic, and the same returns can be generated through more mature, less volatile investments with fewer uncertainties and less execution risk. 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It’s been a year where ‘ESG’ and ‘Quant’ remain key structural trends in the investment community. And it’s been a year that has seen an almost constant, running debate over the outlook for growth and inflation.&nbsp;Commodities, it just so happens, find themselves at the center of all these stories.</p><p><blockquote><b>对于许多投资者来说，2021年是比总体指数所暗示的更艰难的一年</b>今年，“ESG”和“量化”仍然是投资界的关键结构性趋势。在过去的一年里，关于增长和通胀前景的辩论几乎持续不断。碰巧的是，大宗商品发现自己处于所有这些故事的中心。</blockquote></p><p> Let’s start with the challenging year.&nbsp;<b>The casual observer could be forgiven for thinking that 2021 has been a walk in the park, with global equities returning 16% through September 1, with historically low volatility.</b></p><p><blockquote>让我们从充满挑战的一年开始。<b>不经意的观察者认为2021年是在公园散步，截至9月1日，全球股市回报率为16%，波动性处于历史低位，这是情有可原的。</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>But under the surface, it’s been hard</b>. It’s been hard in a ‘good’ market like US equities, where major rotations have led to sharp swings in relative performance (US small caps rose +20% through mid-March, and are lower since). And it’s been hard in global equities, where MSCI China has fallen 26% since February 14, while MSCI Europe is up 14% over the same period. Many active managers are lagging their benchmarks.</p><p><blockquote><b>但在表面之下，这很难</b>.在像美国股市这样的“良好”市场中，这很难，因为主要的轮动导致相对表现大幅波动（美国小盘股截至3月中旬上涨了+20%，此后一直走低）。全球股市也很艰难，自2月14日以来，MSCI中国股市下跌了26%，而MSCI欧洲股市同期上涨了14%。许多主动型基金经理落后于他们的基准。</blockquote></p><p> Yet quantitatively, it may be an even harder year in rates and FX. We run a&nbsp;Cross-Asset Systematic Trading tool, or CAST, which aims to identify what factors matter for cross-asset performance, and systematically invest based on how those factors look at a given moment. CAST asks “if I do what has historically worked in the market, given current information, what should I do?”.</p><p><blockquote>然而，从数量上看，今年在利率和外汇方面可能会更加艰难。我们运行跨资产系统交易工具（CAST），旨在确定哪些因素对跨资产表现至关重要，并根据这些因素在给定时刻的表现进行系统投资。CAST问“如果我做了市场上历史上有效的事情，给定当前的信息，我应该做什么？”.</blockquote></p><p> Year-to-date, following these historical patterns has led to poorer outcomes in interest rates and FX compared with all other asset classes.&nbsp;Where have historical patterns done better? Commodities. A lot better.</p><p><blockquote>今年迄今为止，与所有其他资产类别相比，遵循这些历史模式导致利率和外汇表现较差。历史模式在哪里做得更好？商品。好多了。</blockquote></p><p> Investing systematically based on attractive factors (carry, momentum, valuation, supportive fundamentals) has been working better in commodities than any other asset class (credit is second). Why? We have a few theories:</p><p><blockquote>基于有吸引力的因素（利差、动量、估值、支持性基本面）进行系统投资，在大宗商品中的效果比任何其他资产类别都好（信贷位居第二）。为什么？我们有几种理论：</blockquote></p><p> <ul>  <li>Natural inefficiencies in the commodity market create risk premium.</p><p><blockquote><ul><li>商品市场的自然低效率会产生风险溢价。</li></ul></blockquote></p><p></li>  <li>The tendency of commodities to move in longer cycles means that momentum is more effective.</p><p><blockquote><li>大宗商品在更长周期内波动的趋势意味着动量更有效。</li></blockquote></p><p></li>  <li><b>Central banks aren’t intervening in these markets (and investor flows have been more muted), allowing more ‘normal’ dynamics to play out.</b></p><p><blockquote><li><b>各国央行没有干预这些市场（投资者流量也更加平静），从而允许更多“正常”的动态发挥作用。</b></li></blockquote></p><p></li> </ul> Given the prominence of quant and systematic investing as themes in investment management, this is pretty important. To the extent one can, go where these types of strategies are working.</p><p><blockquote>鉴于量化和系统投资作为投资管理主题的突出地位，这一点非常重要。尽你所能，去这些类型的策略有效的地方。</blockquote></p><p> Commodities also tie into a second big investment theme, ESG.&nbsp;The underlying reality and seriousness of climate change remains constant, and indeed, looks even more pressing following the&nbsp;release from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Yet while ESG-linked equities have seen pronounced swings in 2021, commodity markets have delivered a far more consistent message.</p><p><blockquote>大宗商品还与第二大投资主题ESG相关。气候变化的潜在现实和严重性保持不变，事实上，在政府间气候变化专门委员会（IPCC）发布报告后，看起来更加紧迫。然而，尽管ESG相关股票在2021年出现了明显波动，但大宗商品市场却传递了更加一致的信息。</blockquote></p><p> The price for&nbsp;EU Carbon emissions, for example (MO1 Comdty), has risen 88% year-to-date. My colleague Robert Pulleyn has been bullish on the belief that a higher price on emissions is essential to meet the EU’s climate goals. Near term, he sees the risk of a decline given recent gains, before prices resume their upward trend toward €102/ton by 2027 (see&nbsp;Utilities: Carbon: Softness Risk Ahead? Before Upwards March Resumes, August 9, 2021).</p><p><blockquote>例如，欧盟碳排放价格(MO1 Comdty)今年迄今已上涨88%。我的同事罗伯特·普林(Robert Pulleyn)一直看好这样一种信念，即更高的排放价格对于实现欧盟的气候目标至关重要。从短期来看，鉴于最近的上涨，他认为价格在2027年恢复上涨趋势至€102/吨之前存在下跌风险（参见公用事业：碳：未来的疲软风险？在3月恢复上涨之前，2021年8月9日）。</blockquote></p><p> Wait, you might say. If commodity markets are so focused on the realities of climate change, why are oil prices higher this year, not lower? Again, we think the market is actually pretty rational. Shareholder pressure and the threat of future EV adoption is causing oil producers to dramatically reduce their capex plans, a development that my colleague Martijn Rats believes will help limit supply and keep prices elevated (see&nbsp;Podcast | Thoughts on the Market: The Curious Case of Norway, EVs and Oil, September 2, 2021).</p><p><blockquote>等等，你可能会说。如果大宗商品市场如此关注气候变化的现实，为什么今年油价会上涨而不是下跌？同样，我们认为市场实际上是相当理性的。股东压力和未来电动汽车采用的威胁正在导致石油生产商大幅减少资本支出计划，我的同事Martijn Rats认为这一发展将有助于限制供应并保持价格高位（参见播客|市场思考：挪威的奇怪案例，电动汽车和石油，2021年9月2日）。</blockquote></p><p> ESG and systematic investing are major industry themes. 2021 being harder than the headline indices suggest is something we’re all aware of. But the biggest story of the year is&nbsp;the debate around growth and inflation. What, it seems fair to say, do commodities have to say about that?</p><p><blockquote>ESG和系统性投资是主要的行业主题。我们都知道，2021年将比总体指数显示的更加困难。但今年最大的新闻是围绕增长和通胀的辩论。公平地说，大宗商品对此有何看法？</blockquote></p><p> While commodity prices are often synonymous with inflation, our forecasts suggest they’ll now play a smaller role. The biggest downside risk to prices is likely to come from core goods (where demand has been well-above trend), while the biggest risk to the upside is likely to come from rental growth (which is a large share of the basket, and strong). Nonetheless,<b>recent stabilization in commodity prices should reinforce the transitory nature of headline inflation, which our economists expect to moderate into mid-2022</b>.</p><p><blockquote>虽然大宗商品价格通常是通货膨胀的同义词，但我们的预测表明，它们现在发挥的作用将较小。价格最大的下行风险可能来自核心商品（需求远高于趋势），而最大的上行风险可能来自租金增长（在篮子中占很大份额，而且强劲）。尽管如此，<b>近期大宗商品价格的企稳应该会强化总体通胀的暂时性，我们的经济学家预计通胀将在2022年中期放缓</b>.</blockquote></p><p></p><p> On the growth debate, however, commodities are front and center.<b>Our economists see a 3Q slowdown in both the&nbsp;US&nbsp;and&nbsp;China</b>(but not Europe, which is a story for another time). Copper prices and the CRB RIND index, two key harbingers of cyclical strength, remain high, consistent with a view that this economic weakness will be temporary.</p><p><blockquote>然而，在增长辩论中，大宗商品是前沿和中心。<b>我们的经济学家预计美国和中国第三季度经济都会放缓</b>（但不是欧洲，这是另一个时间的故事）。铜价和CRB RIND指数这两个周期性走强的关键先兆仍然居高不下，这与经济疲软将是暂时的观点一致。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/addcaef8407fdc8cf9f4efb87956bf0d\" tg-width=\"1258\" tg-height=\"650\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> We’ll be watching the resilience of these indicators as August data, reported in September, may look poor, and test the market's resolve.</p><p><blockquote>我们将关注这些指标的弹性，因为9月份报告的8月份数据可能看起来不佳，并测试市场的决心。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Morgan Stanley: Commodities Find Themselves At The Center Of 2021's Most Important Stories<blockquote>摩根士丹利：大宗商品发现自己处于2021年最重要故事的中心</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMorgan Stanley: Commodities Find Themselves At The Center Of 2021's Most Important Stories<blockquote>摩根士丹利：大宗商品发现自己处于2021年最重要故事的中心</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">zerohedge</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-09-06 20:54</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><u><b>Commodities Tie the Year Together</b></u></p><p><blockquote><u><b>大宗商品将一年联系在一起</b></u></blockquote></p><p> <b>2021 has been a harder year for many investors than the headline indices imply</b>. It’s been a year where ‘ESG’ and ‘Quant’ remain key structural trends in the investment community. And it’s been a year that has seen an almost constant, running debate over the outlook for growth and inflation.&nbsp;Commodities, it just so happens, find themselves at the center of all these stories.</p><p><blockquote><b>对于许多投资者来说，2021年是比总体指数所暗示的更艰难的一年</b>今年，“ESG”和“量化”仍然是投资界的关键结构性趋势。在过去的一年里，关于增长和通胀前景的辩论几乎持续不断。碰巧的是，大宗商品发现自己处于所有这些故事的中心。</blockquote></p><p> Let’s start with the challenging year.&nbsp;<b>The casual observer could be forgiven for thinking that 2021 has been a walk in the park, with global equities returning 16% through September 1, with historically low volatility.</b></p><p><blockquote>让我们从充满挑战的一年开始。<b>不经意的观察者认为2021年是在公园散步，截至9月1日，全球股市回报率为16%，波动性处于历史低位，这是情有可原的。</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>But under the surface, it’s been hard</b>. It’s been hard in a ‘good’ market like US equities, where major rotations have led to sharp swings in relative performance (US small caps rose +20% through mid-March, and are lower since). And it’s been hard in global equities, where MSCI China has fallen 26% since February 14, while MSCI Europe is up 14% over the same period. Many active managers are lagging their benchmarks.</p><p><blockquote><b>但在表面之下，这很难</b>.在像美国股市这样的“良好”市场中，这很难，因为主要的轮动导致相对表现大幅波动（美国小盘股截至3月中旬上涨了+20%，此后一直走低）。全球股市也很艰难，自2月14日以来，MSCI中国股市下跌了26%，而MSCI欧洲股市同期上涨了14%。许多主动型基金经理落后于他们的基准。</blockquote></p><p> Yet quantitatively, it may be an even harder year in rates and FX. We run a&nbsp;Cross-Asset Systematic Trading tool, or CAST, which aims to identify what factors matter for cross-asset performance, and systematically invest based on how those factors look at a given moment. CAST asks “if I do what has historically worked in the market, given current information, what should I do?”.</p><p><blockquote>然而，从数量上看，今年在利率和外汇方面可能会更加艰难。我们运行跨资产系统交易工具（CAST），旨在确定哪些因素对跨资产表现至关重要，并根据这些因素在给定时刻的表现进行系统投资。CAST问“如果我做了市场上历史上有效的事情，给定当前的信息，我应该做什么？”.</blockquote></p><p> Year-to-date, following these historical patterns has led to poorer outcomes in interest rates and FX compared with all other asset classes.&nbsp;Where have historical patterns done better? Commodities. A lot better.</p><p><blockquote>今年迄今为止，与所有其他资产类别相比，遵循这些历史模式导致利率和外汇表现较差。历史模式在哪里做得更好？商品。好多了。</blockquote></p><p> Investing systematically based on attractive factors (carry, momentum, valuation, supportive fundamentals) has been working better in commodities than any other asset class (credit is second). Why? We have a few theories:</p><p><blockquote>基于有吸引力的因素（利差、动量、估值、支持性基本面）进行系统投资，在大宗商品中的效果比任何其他资产类别都好（信贷位居第二）。为什么？我们有几种理论：</blockquote></p><p> <ul>  <li>Natural inefficiencies in the commodity market create risk premium.</p><p><blockquote><ul><li>商品市场的自然低效率会产生风险溢价。</li></ul></blockquote></p><p></li>  <li>The tendency of commodities to move in longer cycles means that momentum is more effective.</p><p><blockquote><li>大宗商品在更长周期内波动的趋势意味着动量更有效。</li></blockquote></p><p></li>  <li><b>Central banks aren’t intervening in these markets (and investor flows have been more muted), allowing more ‘normal’ dynamics to play out.</b></p><p><blockquote><li><b>各国央行没有干预这些市场（投资者流量也更加平静），从而允许更多“正常”的动态发挥作用。</b></li></blockquote></p><p></li> </ul> Given the prominence of quant and systematic investing as themes in investment management, this is pretty important. To the extent one can, go where these types of strategies are working.</p><p><blockquote>鉴于量化和系统投资作为投资管理主题的突出地位，这一点非常重要。尽你所能，去这些类型的策略有效的地方。</blockquote></p><p> Commodities also tie into a second big investment theme, ESG.&nbsp;The underlying reality and seriousness of climate change remains constant, and indeed, looks even more pressing following the&nbsp;release from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Yet while ESG-linked equities have seen pronounced swings in 2021, commodity markets have delivered a far more consistent message.</p><p><blockquote>大宗商品还与第二大投资主题ESG相关。气候变化的潜在现实和严重性保持不变，事实上，在政府间气候变化专门委员会（IPCC）发布报告后，看起来更加紧迫。然而，尽管ESG相关股票在2021年出现了明显波动，但大宗商品市场却传递了更加一致的信息。</blockquote></p><p> The price for&nbsp;EU Carbon emissions, for example (MO1 Comdty), has risen 88% year-to-date. My colleague Robert Pulleyn has been bullish on the belief that a higher price on emissions is essential to meet the EU’s climate goals. Near term, he sees the risk of a decline given recent gains, before prices resume their upward trend toward €102/ton by 2027 (see&nbsp;Utilities: Carbon: Softness Risk Ahead? Before Upwards March Resumes, August 9, 2021).</p><p><blockquote>例如，欧盟碳排放价格(MO1 Comdty)今年迄今已上涨88%。我的同事罗伯特·普林(Robert Pulleyn)一直看好这样一种信念，即更高的排放价格对于实现欧盟的气候目标至关重要。从短期来看，鉴于最近的上涨，他认为价格在2027年恢复上涨趋势至€102/吨之前存在下跌风险（参见公用事业：碳：未来的疲软风险？在3月恢复上涨之前，2021年8月9日）。</blockquote></p><p> Wait, you might say. If commodity markets are so focused on the realities of climate change, why are oil prices higher this year, not lower? Again, we think the market is actually pretty rational. Shareholder pressure and the threat of future EV adoption is causing oil producers to dramatically reduce their capex plans, a development that my colleague Martijn Rats believes will help limit supply and keep prices elevated (see&nbsp;Podcast | Thoughts on the Market: The Curious Case of Norway, EVs and Oil, September 2, 2021).</p><p><blockquote>等等，你可能会说。如果大宗商品市场如此关注气候变化的现实，为什么今年油价会上涨而不是下跌？同样，我们认为市场实际上是相当理性的。股东压力和未来电动汽车采用的威胁正在导致石油生产商大幅减少资本支出计划，我的同事Martijn Rats认为这一发展将有助于限制供应并保持价格高位（参见播客|市场思考：挪威的奇怪案例，电动汽车和石油，2021年9月2日）。</blockquote></p><p> ESG and systematic investing are major industry themes. 2021 being harder than the headline indices suggest is something we’re all aware of. But the biggest story of the year is&nbsp;the debate around growth and inflation. What, it seems fair to say, do commodities have to say about that?</p><p><blockquote>ESG和系统性投资是主要的行业主题。我们都知道，2021年将比总体指数显示的更加困难。但今年最大的新闻是围绕增长和通胀的辩论。公平地说，大宗商品对此有何看法？</blockquote></p><p> While commodity prices are often synonymous with inflation, our forecasts suggest they’ll now play a smaller role. The biggest downside risk to prices is likely to come from core goods (where demand has been well-above trend), while the biggest risk to the upside is likely to come from rental growth (which is a large share of the basket, and strong). Nonetheless,<b>recent stabilization in commodity prices should reinforce the transitory nature of headline inflation, which our economists expect to moderate into mid-2022</b>.</p><p><blockquote>虽然大宗商品价格通常是通货膨胀的同义词，但我们的预测表明，它们现在发挥的作用将较小。价格最大的下行风险可能来自核心商品（需求远高于趋势），而最大的上行风险可能来自租金增长（在篮子中占很大份额，而且强劲）。尽管如此，<b>近期大宗商品价格的企稳应该会强化总体通胀的暂时性，我们的经济学家预计通胀将在2022年中期放缓</b>.</blockquote></p><p></p><p> On the growth debate, however, commodities are front and center.<b>Our economists see a 3Q slowdown in both the&nbsp;US&nbsp;and&nbsp;China</b>(but not Europe, which is a story for another time). Copper prices and the CRB RIND index, two key harbingers of cyclical strength, remain high, consistent with a view that this economic weakness will be temporary.</p><p><blockquote>然而，在增长辩论中，大宗商品是前沿和中心。<b>我们的经济学家预计美国和中国第三季度经济都会放缓</b>（但不是欧洲，这是另一个时间的故事）。铜价和CRB RIND指数这两个周期性走强的关键先兆仍然居高不下，这与经济疲软将是暂时的观点一致。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/addcaef8407fdc8cf9f4efb87956bf0d\" tg-width=\"1258\" tg-height=\"650\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> We’ll be watching the resilience of these indicators as August data, reported in September, may look poor, and test the market's resolve.</p><p><blockquote>我们将关注这些指标的弹性，因为9月份报告的8月份数据可能看起来不佳，并测试市场的决心。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/morgan-stanley-commodities-find-themselves-center-all-2021s-most-important-stories\">zerohedge</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/morgan-stanley-commodities-find-themselves-center-all-2021s-most-important-stories","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1183504703","content_text":"Commodities Tie the Year Together\n2021 has been a harder year for many investors than the headline indices imply. It’s been a year where ‘ESG’ and ‘Quant’ remain key structural trends in the investment community. And it’s been a year that has seen an almost constant, running debate over the outlook for growth and inflation. Commodities, it just so happens, find themselves at the center of all these stories.\nLet’s start with the challenging year. The casual observer could be forgiven for thinking that 2021 has been a walk in the park, with global equities returning 16% through September 1, with historically low volatility.\nBut under the surface, it’s been hard. It’s been hard in a ‘good’ market like US equities, where major rotations have led to sharp swings in relative performance (US small caps rose +20% through mid-March, and are lower since). And it’s been hard in global equities, where MSCI China has fallen 26% since February 14, while MSCI Europe is up 14% over the same period. Many active managers are lagging their benchmarks.\nYet quantitatively, it may be an even harder year in rates and FX. We run a Cross-Asset Systematic Trading tool, or CAST, which aims to identify what factors matter for cross-asset performance, and systematically invest based on how those factors look at a given moment. CAST asks “if I do what has historically worked in the market, given current information, what should I do?”.\nYear-to-date, following these historical patterns has led to poorer outcomes in interest rates and FX compared with all other asset classes. Where have historical patterns done better? Commodities. A lot better.\nInvesting systematically based on attractive factors (carry, momentum, valuation, supportive fundamentals) has been working better in commodities than any other asset class (credit is second). Why? We have a few theories:\n\nNatural inefficiencies in the commodity market create risk premium.\nThe tendency of commodities to move in longer cycles means that momentum is more effective.\nCentral banks aren’t intervening in these markets (and investor flows have been more muted), allowing more ‘normal’ dynamics to play out.\n\nGiven the prominence of quant and systematic investing as themes in investment management, this is pretty important. To the extent one can, go where these types of strategies are working.\nCommodities also tie into a second big investment theme, ESG. The underlying reality and seriousness of climate change remains constant, and indeed, looks even more pressing following the release from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Yet while ESG-linked equities have seen pronounced swings in 2021, commodity markets have delivered a far more consistent message.\nThe price for EU Carbon emissions, for example (MO1 Comdty), has risen 88% year-to-date. My colleague Robert Pulleyn has been bullish on the belief that a higher price on emissions is essential to meet the EU’s climate goals. Near term, he sees the risk of a decline given recent gains, before prices resume their upward trend toward €102/ton by 2027 (see Utilities: Carbon: Softness Risk Ahead? Before Upwards March Resumes, August 9, 2021).\nWait, you might say. If commodity markets are so focused on the realities of climate change, why are oil prices higher this year, not lower? Again, we think the market is actually pretty rational. Shareholder pressure and the threat of future EV adoption is causing oil producers to dramatically reduce their capex plans, a development that my colleague Martijn Rats believes will help limit supply and keep prices elevated (see Podcast | Thoughts on the Market: The Curious Case of Norway, EVs and Oil, September 2, 2021).\nESG and systematic investing are major industry themes. 2021 being harder than the headline indices suggest is something we’re all aware of. But the biggest story of the year is the debate around growth and inflation. What, it seems fair to say, do commodities have to say about that?\nWhile commodity prices are often synonymous with inflation, our forecasts suggest they’ll now play a smaller role. The biggest downside risk to prices is likely to come from core goods (where demand has been well-above trend), while the biggest risk to the upside is likely to come from rental growth (which is a large share of the basket, and strong). Nonetheless,recent stabilization in commodity prices should reinforce the transitory nature of headline inflation, which our economists expect to moderate into mid-2022.\nOn the growth debate, however, commodities are front and center.Our economists see a 3Q slowdown in both the US and China(but not Europe, which is a story for another time). Copper prices and the CRB RIND index, two key harbingers of cyclical strength, remain high, consistent with a view that this economic weakness will be temporary.\n\nWe’ll be watching the resilience of these indicators as August data, reported in September, may look poor, and test the market's 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