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史诗级牛市真要来了？专家称必然突破6124高点

08-02

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 到明年6月份，tesla都会反反复复，低位加仓！你能找到ai落地应用比tesla做的更好的公司吗？

08-01

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 还能再回调到280吗？加仓

07-31

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07-08

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07-03

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06-16

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06-16

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06-08

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 美债变稳定币变新美元？

06-06

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06-04

怎样认购？

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src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0c4481137aa64542897feba50f30e759\" alt=\"\"/><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>史诗级牛市能让所有人赚到钱吗？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>美国股市从81年一直涨到现在，如果大家都能在股市中赚到钱，那美国的个人投资者应该很有钱。通过股票能够赚钱的人数是很少的。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>如果想成为受益的少数群体，现在应该怎么做？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>市场一般经历四个阶段，坚决不信；怀疑相信、等待回调；市场大涨看不懂市场；然后完全相信真的接盘。往往大家亏钱的原因，是低点低仓位，高点高仓位，浮盈加仓一把亏光。想要在这个市场赚到钱，个人投资者要么早信，要么就干脆不信。还要敢于和大众媒体以及市场作对，跌得多的时候敢加仓，涨得多的时候忌贪婪，在顶部的时候全部减仓。怎么判断是否到顶，就要依靠个人认知了。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>有观点认为股市大涨能够提振消费，您怎么看？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>这是毋庸置疑的。股市一旦上涨，虚拟进账增加，会给人带来很强烈的财富幻觉。只要当天指数涨了3%，周围各个饭店肯定是爆满，大家晚上一定想要寻开心，花钱一定会大手大脚。但是这给未来留下不好的伏笔，只要自己炒股票，后续还会亏回去，大手大脚的习惯养成了，在亏回去的时候很难戒掉。股票市场不可能带着所有人发家致富，有足够高的认知和足够的人性把握，才能在这里赚到、留住。</p><p><strong>02</strong></p><p><strong>“中国股市不可能跌多狠”</strong></p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>能否预测一下中国股市走势？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>中国资金呈现多方面的剩余，金融资本剩余、产业资本剩余、民间自由资本剩余。如此庞大的剩余资金没有出处，必然会找到一个大家熟知估值比较低的场所宣泄。目前来看，中国的股市是唯一比较符合要求的，它承载量足够大。如果这是必然，市场不可能跌多狠，也就不是下跌的时候无限悲观，上涨的时候无限乐观，注定是有底和顶。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>“牛短熊长”还会重演吗？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>我们觉得还会出现。之所以出现这种情况，是因为资金筹码之间产生的博弈，并不是来自基本面的股市上涨和下跌，而是非常强大的情绪冲击。所谓的大家说的“牛短熊长”，是每一个参与股市投资和基金投资的人造就的。大家的钱全涌过来，一定会把股市打成泡沫，然后再回归。存量资本的几次洗刷之后，我们才有可能迎来牛长熊短的过程。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>上半年外资净增持境内股票和基金101亿美元，扭转了过去两年总体净减持态势。如何看待近期外资投资境内股票总体向好？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>中国是全世界生活最为安全、便利的国家，也是最大经济体之一，并且还有如此便宜的股市，一定会受到国际资本的追捧，只是时间节奏的问题。</p><p><strong>03</strong></p><p><strong>“巴菲特‘身体很诚实’，实际上就是看空美国”</strong></p><p>凤凰网财经：如何看待美国金融市场近期动态？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>拘泥于越小的事件，得出的结论越充满偶然性，因此应该从全局角度去观察。对目前的美国而言，降息不降息都是小问题，核心是美国每年12000亿的财政亏空。对任何一个国家而言，巨额财政赤字、高负债都是极其危险的信号。美国财政亏空，本可以通过像罗斯福新政一样对富人进行征税，但是现在却反其道而行之。美国必须要重新有一个像罗斯福一样有魄力、有能力、有担当的领导扭转大局，否则只能再去吞下QE（量化宽松）这颗剧毒药丸。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>您曾经表示巴菲特并不是不看好黄金，而是之前黄金涨价下不去手。面对如今黄金的涨势，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">伯克希尔</a>如何操作？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>巴菲特是全球资管圈的一个例外，全球只有一个巴菲特。巴菲特其实很“诚实”，</p><p>他实际上是在唱空美国。他目前在美国的持仓和各种情况，等同于在1968年关掉他自己的私募基金，并且买了大量的日本股市股票，那几个商社从盈利能力和地位看，相当于日本国企。日本大型国企盈利稳定、估值便宜，本身就是在对冲美元贬值的风险。由于他存在的地位和意义比较特殊，他不能说真实看空美国的想法，但是实质他做的行为就是如此。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>美股出现高位回落的可能性如何？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>很难判断什么时候到顶或什么时间回落，但我们认为这个位置绝对不能下注。2022年以后美国股市上涨过的所有东西都不值得下注。因为他们在用某一种叙事支撑这种高估值。</p><p><strong>04</strong></p><p><strong>“发明者吃螃蟹的叙事是错的，是美国用来解释<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">英伟达</a>的”</strong></p><p>凤凰网财经：怎么理解您说的“叙事支撑美股高估值”？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>任何新事物的发明者，最后只能占据这个市场的5%，甚至不到5%的市场空间和利润。不是谁发明谁最后吃螃蟹，而是后续谁的效仿能力强。这种发明者胜出的叙事方式，是美国强加给我们的，是他们用来解释英伟达为什么这么强的一个叙事方式。但我可以明确说，在商业史上，在科技史上，这个叙事方式是错的。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>英伟达成为全球首家市值突破4万亿美元的上市公司。你怎么看待英伟达？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>从这家公司市值36000亿的时候，我就一直在讲，英伟达很好很不错，但是它真的有那么好吗？它只是一家软件设计类的企业，商业模式上，消费和收入端存在一次性支出的嫌疑。如果我们理解为英伟达将保持永久性的领先，我想是错误的。当这个预期、这个叙事过程进行反杀的话，高估值泡沫会怎么样？2000年的互联网泡沫会出现什么？顶部时期去讲逻辑，是投资里面最可怕的事情，就会变成所谓真信的，真的要接盘。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>特朗普称美国是人工智能竞赛的发起国，并且抛出新的AI发展计划，企图维持美国在关键技术领域对中国的优势。如何看待他们的动作？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>在AI还没有火起来的时候，几年以前李开复就已经对这个问题看的很清楚了。AI的核心是海量的数据，而不是仅仅依靠算力跟算法。哪里有海量的数据呢？在网络信息层面来说，中国才有这种海量的数据。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>之前您谈到下一轮技术革命时表示，目前看不出有新的技术能够带来生产效率的大幅提升，AI还不算。怎么理解您这个观点？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>能够掀起新一轮工业革命的东西，一定是能够提高生产效率，而且这种提高不是20%至30%，应该几何级数的提高，就像当年的蒸汽机推动棉纺织一样。所有的工业化生产物品，价格出现系统性的下移，新的工厂能够把价格砍掉40%至50%。那么目前我们去看 AI，还没有案例和数据能够证明AI大幅提升工业化部门生产效率。</p><p>我们只能说可以预期AI未来会实现在工业部门的应用，但目前还不能完全确定。以现在的Deepseek为例，我们承认它为搜索资料带来很多便利，但是它不是一个很好的下结论的工具，可以说现在还是“人云亦云”的阶段。多数人怎么说，它就怎么答复用户，还不能形成独立判断。</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>史诗级牛市真要来了？专家称必然突破6124高点</title>\n<style 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21:45</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p><strong>“即将到来的A股史诗级牛市会掀翻6124高点，并且把这一历史峰值‘踩’在脚下。”信汇泉总经理孙加滢近日在与凤凰网财经对话时，如此预测。</strong></p><p>今年6月底以来，A股表现持续强势，站上3600点的高位。在这一时间点上，投资者对牛市的期待也越来越高。孙加滢表示，现在已经来到史诗级牛市的起点。某种程度上，史诗级牛市的出现是一种必然——根据他的研究，全球进入工业化序列的国家，在进入工业化成熟阶段后，普遍出现股市的连续上涨，并且上涨幅度将“相当大”。</p><p>牛市何时到来？如何把握机会成为少数受益群体？以下为对话实录，在不改变原意的基础上有删减。</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4a41270d6e3d3d868e03c846e1ff8905\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"560\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><p><strong>01</strong></p><p><strong>“炒股挣的钱很难留住”</strong></p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>您曾表示现在是史诗级牛市的起点，牛市何时到来？能“牛”到什么程度？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>目前大概率进入整体向上的周期，时间节点很难具体预测，只能说是一步步看宏观情况。我们偏向于本轮牛市很难超过2007年的牛市，因为那波是从998的低点涨到了6124，相当于六倍上涨。如果（本轮）从2600开始算起，以涨幅六倍计算，指数将升至15000点，这是让人很难想象的。但是这轮牛市的上涨空间和幅度，我们还是偏向会将6124这个高点掀翻，并且把它“踩”在脚下。只有这样才能体现所谓“史诗级牛市”的气魄。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>为什么会出现史诗级牛市？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>我们在做各个国家股市研究时发现，进入工业化序列的国家，都经历过长期震荡，并且震荡后出现一路向上的走势。比如韩国股市和日本股市，德国、法国、美国这些进入工业化序列的国家也出现类似情况。</p><p>我结合罗斯托工业化进程和达里奥国家生命周期，对此进行解读，能够解释这个现象。基本上在工业化起飞前和起飞阶段，股市都会经历长周期震荡，但是进入工业化成熟阶段，普遍出现一波股市的连续上涨，并且这种上涨可以称之为史诗级，因为在历史上观测到呈现高点不断突破、低点不断抬高，并且抬高的幅度相当大的过程，而且是在短短几年内。</p><p>像韩国股市，就在短短八年内完成了四倍到五倍的上涨。美国在1932年完成工业化成熟，实际上我们看到它的股市上涨，是从1932年一直到现在，将近100年的牛市。当然了，中间的每一次震荡周期时间也比较长，但总体是连续向上的。这是我们当时做完研究后的结论。</p><p>虽然现在看，“史诗级牛市将至”这样的话术，大家可能觉得有一些夸张。但有时候可能是因为我们身处在这一过程中，所以并不能完全看清，“不识庐山真面目，只缘身在此山中”。只有经历过，我们回头看才会发现，原来的确是这样。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0c4481137aa64542897feba50f30e759\" alt=\"\"/><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>史诗级牛市能让所有人赚到钱吗？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>美国股市从81年一直涨到现在，如果大家都能在股市中赚到钱，那美国的个人投资者应该很有钱。通过股票能够赚钱的人数是很少的。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>如果想成为受益的少数群体，现在应该怎么做？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>市场一般经历四个阶段，坚决不信；怀疑相信、等待回调；市场大涨看不懂市场；然后完全相信真的接盘。往往大家亏钱的原因，是低点低仓位，高点高仓位，浮盈加仓一把亏光。想要在这个市场赚到钱，个人投资者要么早信，要么就干脆不信。还要敢于和大众媒体以及市场作对，跌得多的时候敢加仓，涨得多的时候忌贪婪，在顶部的时候全部减仓。怎么判断是否到顶，就要依靠个人认知了。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>有观点认为股市大涨能够提振消费，您怎么看？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>这是毋庸置疑的。股市一旦上涨，虚拟进账增加，会给人带来很强烈的财富幻觉。只要当天指数涨了3%，周围各个饭店肯定是爆满，大家晚上一定想要寻开心，花钱一定会大手大脚。但是这给未来留下不好的伏笔，只要自己炒股票，后续还会亏回去，大手大脚的习惯养成了，在亏回去的时候很难戒掉。股票市场不可能带着所有人发家致富，有足够高的认知和足够的人性把握，才能在这里赚到、留住。</p><p><strong>02</strong></p><p><strong>“中国股市不可能跌多狠”</strong></p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>能否预测一下中国股市走势？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>中国资金呈现多方面的剩余，金融资本剩余、产业资本剩余、民间自由资本剩余。如此庞大的剩余资金没有出处，必然会找到一个大家熟知估值比较低的场所宣泄。目前来看，中国的股市是唯一比较符合要求的，它承载量足够大。如果这是必然，市场不可能跌多狠，也就不是下跌的时候无限悲观，上涨的时候无限乐观，注定是有底和顶。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>“牛短熊长”还会重演吗？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>我们觉得还会出现。之所以出现这种情况，是因为资金筹码之间产生的博弈，并不是来自基本面的股市上涨和下跌，而是非常强大的情绪冲击。所谓的大家说的“牛短熊长”，是每一个参与股市投资和基金投资的人造就的。大家的钱全涌过来，一定会把股市打成泡沫，然后再回归。存量资本的几次洗刷之后，我们才有可能迎来牛长熊短的过程。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>上半年外资净增持境内股票和基金101亿美元，扭转了过去两年总体净减持态势。如何看待近期外资投资境内股票总体向好？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>中国是全世界生活最为安全、便利的国家，也是最大经济体之一，并且还有如此便宜的股市，一定会受到国际资本的追捧，只是时间节奏的问题。</p><p><strong>03</strong></p><p><strong>“巴菲特‘身体很诚实’，实际上就是看空美国”</strong></p><p>凤凰网财经：如何看待美国金融市场近期动态？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>拘泥于越小的事件，得出的结论越充满偶然性，因此应该从全局角度去观察。对目前的美国而言，降息不降息都是小问题，核心是美国每年12000亿的财政亏空。对任何一个国家而言，巨额财政赤字、高负债都是极其危险的信号。美国财政亏空，本可以通过像罗斯福新政一样对富人进行征税，但是现在却反其道而行之。美国必须要重新有一个像罗斯福一样有魄力、有能力、有担当的领导扭转大局，否则只能再去吞下QE（量化宽松）这颗剧毒药丸。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>您曾经表示巴菲特并不是不看好黄金，而是之前黄金涨价下不去手。面对如今黄金的涨势，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BRK.A\">伯克希尔</a>如何操作？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>巴菲特是全球资管圈的一个例外，全球只有一个巴菲特。巴菲特其实很“诚实”，</p><p>他实际上是在唱空美国。他目前在美国的持仓和各种情况，等同于在1968年关掉他自己的私募基金，并且买了大量的日本股市股票，那几个商社从盈利能力和地位看，相当于日本国企。日本大型国企盈利稳定、估值便宜，本身就是在对冲美元贬值的风险。由于他存在的地位和意义比较特殊，他不能说真实看空美国的想法，但是实质他做的行为就是如此。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>美股出现高位回落的可能性如何？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>很难判断什么时候到顶或什么时间回落，但我们认为这个位置绝对不能下注。2022年以后美国股市上涨过的所有东西都不值得下注。因为他们在用某一种叙事支撑这种高估值。</p><p><strong>04</strong></p><p><strong>“发明者吃螃蟹的叙事是错的，是美国用来解释<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">英伟达</a>的”</strong></p><p>凤凰网财经：怎么理解您说的“叙事支撑美股高估值”？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>任何新事物的发明者，最后只能占据这个市场的5%，甚至不到5%的市场空间和利润。不是谁发明谁最后吃螃蟹，而是后续谁的效仿能力强。这种发明者胜出的叙事方式，是美国强加给我们的，是他们用来解释英伟达为什么这么强的一个叙事方式。但我可以明确说，在商业史上，在科技史上，这个叙事方式是错的。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>英伟达成为全球首家市值突破4万亿美元的上市公司。你怎么看待英伟达？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>从这家公司市值36000亿的时候，我就一直在讲，英伟达很好很不错，但是它真的有那么好吗？它只是一家软件设计类的企业，商业模式上，消费和收入端存在一次性支出的嫌疑。如果我们理解为英伟达将保持永久性的领先，我想是错误的。当这个预期、这个叙事过程进行反杀的话，高估值泡沫会怎么样？2000年的互联网泡沫会出现什么？顶部时期去讲逻辑，是投资里面最可怕的事情，就会变成所谓真信的，真的要接盘。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>特朗普称美国是人工智能竞赛的发起国，并且抛出新的AI发展计划，企图维持美国在关键技术领域对中国的优势。如何看待他们的动作？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>在AI还没有火起来的时候，几年以前李开复就已经对这个问题看的很清楚了。AI的核心是海量的数据，而不是仅仅依靠算力跟算法。哪里有海量的数据呢？在网络信息层面来说，中国才有这种海量的数据。</p><p><strong>凤凰网财经：</strong>之前您谈到下一轮技术革命时表示，目前看不出有新的技术能够带来生产效率的大幅提升，AI还不算。怎么理解您这个观点？</p><p><strong>孙加滢：</strong>能够掀起新一轮工业革命的东西，一定是能够提高生产效率，而且这种提高不是20%至30%，应该几何级数的提高，就像当年的蒸汽机推动棉纺织一样。所有的工业化生产物品，价格出现系统性的下移，新的工厂能够把价格砍掉40%至50%。那么目前我们去看 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