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王小娟\n“李想年薪6.39亿”。\n当大家从去年理想汽车年报里看到这一数字时,热搜词条迅速上升。在多数行业愈发内卷的当下,众人纷纷感慨起新能源车赛道的造富神话,而这种割裂感也令许多人难以释怀。\n羡慕之情难以避免,但情况并非如此。理想方面回应称,李想去年的基础年薪只有266.5万元,剩下绝大部分则是待行权的股权激励。\n不过,眼下随着行业同质化的加剧、头部效应的愈演愈烈,作为去年长期霸榜的新势力销冠,理想今年被小鹏乃至有“平价理想”之称的零跑挤下王座,曾经其独享的增程+家庭赛道已成红海。李想也判断,国内新能源汽车产业链正愈发完善,意味着车企之间的壁垒正在被消解。\n同时随着市场竞争加剧,入门的理想L6成为其销量台柱子,但平均成交价的下行,也对理想毛利率产生一定挤压。\n这让理想在二级市场承压。其股价已相较去年初的182.9港元历史高点,已经逐步下滑至如今的103.8港元附近。其不过26倍的PE(市盈率),一定程度上反映出投资者对理想接下来成长性的疑虑。李想的“天价年薪”,也免不了被市场反复审视。\n想要打破投资者的担忧,理想需要新故事。这次,李想带着AI,又杀回来了。\n时隔130多天,5月8日,李想第二次以AI-Talk的形式现身,虽没有像上次因为“消失”而吊足大家的胃口,但依旧干货十足。全程他畅谈AI趋势,并且定调理想是人工智能科技企业,将来他要让AI普惠到每个家庭。而他本人,也将从车圈“李厂长”摇身变为AI科技公司CEO。\n在上一次AI-Talk中,李想直言“AI对理想意味着全部,公司一年的百亿研发投入,有一半都用在AI方面”。而智能汽车首当其冲,被他当作AI愿景的载体。\n此次分享中,理想展示了段视频:驾驶员唤醒“理想同学”给出指令,就可以让辅助驾驶临时调整路线、停车时,我正坐在离开机场的出租车上,看到首都机场高速拥堵,于是告诉司机转走京承高速。\n在一个多小时里,李想畅谈的“VLA司机大模型”、“从动物进化到人类”得到了进一步的具象化。\n事实上,年初随着DeepSeek的火爆,很多人都在期待AI解放生产力,但李想却没有盲目自信,他认为,AI-Agent是否真正智能的关键,在于能否成为生产工具,只有如此才真正迎来爆发时刻。\n而理想的VLA,就是要让AI真正成为司机,成为在交通领域的专业生产工具。换而言之,李想口中的“VLA司机大模型”就是未来的“机器代驾”。\n不过,这个过程不是刹那间的“突变”,而是一步步的“进化”。李想为此分了三个阶段:\n第一阶段,是2021年起自研基于规则算法和高精地图的智驾,类似于“昆虫动物智能”;第二阶段,是2023年起开始研究的端到端+VLM智驾,接近于“哺乳动物智能”。\n但端到端模型在处理复杂问题时存在局限,同时也难以与人类沟通。因此,理想从2024年起开始VLA的研究,步入第三阶段——VLA,开启“人类智能”。\nVLA能通过3D和2D视觉的组合,完整看到物理世界,而不像VLM仅能解析2D图像。同时,VLA拥有完整的脑系统,具备语言、思维链推理能力,能看、能理解、能行动。\n这三个阶段是逐层递进的,整个过程没有捷径。\n而选择AI、死磕智驾的李想,正是为了让理想成为汽车行业的DeepSeek。因为很多时候,外界总觉得理想汽车的成功是靠“冰箱、彩电、大沙发”的捷径,但从造车到研究VLA,理想的脚踏实地从未少过。\n理想喊出的目标是要做“汽车里最懂AI,AI里最会做汽车”,不仅要实现智能驾驶技术的领先,更要打造覆盖智能座舱、能源管理、车联网服务的全栈自研生态。而这背后其实正是理想开启第二曲线的一次豪赌。\n李想决心跳出圈讲出更大的故事。面对未来数万亿元级别的AI新蓝海,大多汽车玩家暂时还难以接招,理想由此决心提前进入“新次元”先声夺人。\n纯电i系列代表intelligence智能,这就与理想成为AI科技公司的愿景高度契合。按照规划,理想将在今年7月与纯电SUV理想i8同步发布VLA,并在2026年实现量产。\n从增程到纯电,从端到端+VLM到VLA,瞄准行业最前沿做切换,目前来看,理想的战略路线和落地路径都愈发清晰。\n此刻面向未来,带着万亿市值憧憬的理想,准备再搏一回。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"02015":1,"EVS.SI":0.6,"LI":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":954,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":413601882321544,"gmtCreate":1742006208871,"gmtModify":1742006519689,"author":{"id":"4191370392321572","authorId":"4191370392321572","name":"五星上将詹姆斯下士","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/600765be2d46ca3a5d36c58c96fc63f2","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4191370392321572","authorIdStr":"4191370392321572"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a 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