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Karpathy)警告称,切勿轻信自动驾驶问题已解决,或全自动驾驶汽车即将普及。作为人工智能领域备受尊敬的领导者,卡帕西的观点引发业界关注。二、技术先驱的行业轨迹2017 年,马斯克从 OpenAI 挖走卡帕西,后者迅速掌舵特斯拉 AI 团队,主导 Autopilot 和完全...</p>\n\n<a href=\"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN20250623063057a717a1e0&s=b\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","LU1066053197.SGD":"HSBC GIF GLOBAL EQUITY VOLATILITY FOCUSED \"AM3\" (SGDHDG) INC","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU2023250330.USD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (USD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0323591593.USD":"SCHRODER ISF QEP GLOBAL QUALITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" 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分钟,全程零人工干预。“那时我以为自动驾驶即将落地,毕竟演示太完美了。” 但 12 年后的今天,行业仍在攻克自动驾驶难题。尽管 Waymo 目前在加州、亚利桑那州和得州运营超 1000 辆无人车,每周为付费用户完成数十万次自动驾驶出行,卡帕西指出:“路上的 Waymo 看似无人驾驶,实则仍依赖大量远程操控和人工介入。” 据他透露,当车辆陷入困境时,远程人员会发送指令干预 —— 这与 Waymo 已确认的部分远程操作机制吻合,但具体干预频率尚不明确。四、AI 落地的时间维度:以 “十年” 为单位“软件难题需要时间,AI 代理(如自动驾驶系统)的成熟不是‘今年’的事,而是‘这十年’的事。” 卡帕西强调,即便行业终将攻克自动驾驶,也需正视技术迭代的漫长周期。他以 Waymo 为例:“我们尚未宣布成功,但现阶段已明确方向,只是过程比预想更久。”五、与特斯拉 “Robotaxi” 的微妙呼应值得玩味的是,卡帕西发声恰逢特斯拉本周末推出 “Robotaxi” 服务。这与马斯克 “自动驾驶已解决” 的论调形成鲜明对比。据披露,特斯拉 Robotaxi 不仅如 Waymo 般依赖远程操控,前排乘客座还需安排员工随时按下急停按钮。Electrek 分析指出,这本质是 “FSD 公开测试版 —— 只是将监督司机从驾驶座移到了副驾”。在 Waymo 加速扩张的背景下,特斯拉此举更像是为兑现多年前的承诺而进行的 “舆论造势”。六、技术瓶颈:从数据到安全的鸿沟评论区观点指出,马斯克团队忽视了驾驶认知的复杂性:“开车时感觉简单,仿佛无需过多思考,但实际涉及的逻辑远不止车道保持和过弯控速。” 特斯拉试图通过 “ brute force(暴力枚举)” 比对历史场景来替代人类推理,却陷入技术路径偏差。数据显示,特斯拉 FSD 目前每数百英里就会出现关键脱机(critical disengagement),而真正的 L4 级系统需达到数万英里的安全间隔。业内预计,实现这一目标至少还需数年。结语:从 “技术炫技” 到 “安全落地”卡帕西作为特斯拉视觉方案的缔造者,其警示揭示了行业真相:自动驾驶的终极目标并非靠 “演示噱头” 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