价值投资为王
03-31
美光昨晚暴跌,说实话,我没想到市场反应这么滞后,要知道,存储芯片的市场价已经很久没涨了!
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谷歌发布新技术,美光却大跌,半导体亦重挫,这次是该逃命还是抄底?
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大A仙尊护道人
03-31
大A仙尊护道人
没有滞后啊,一直在跌。
一路走来cd
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Inmoretion
03-31
Inmoretion
那300的美光值得抄底吗
大A仙尊护道人
03-31
大A仙尊护道人
狗庄要空到300
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达到20%。</p>\n<p>大科技公司回调的核心原因是市场担忧巨额的AI资本开支能否换回可观的收入?另外,随着AI技术的进步,部分投资者也开始担忧AI会不会颠覆科技巨头的某项业务。</p>\n<p>如果大科技公司的股价持续低迷,势必会影响未来的AI投入。根据分析师的预测,科技公司今年在AI上的资本开支将超过6500亿美元,同比增长超40%,维持较快的增速。但展望2027年,科技公司在AI上的支出增速将回落至12%,明显放缓:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0bca7a222aefc089ceedb5dc528ca872\" tg-width=\"948\" tg-height=\"537\"></p>\n<p>另外从市场价来看,DDR5存储芯片的涨幅已经停滞:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adb3ce5bcfae849092b893133f6608fb\" tg-width=\"1017\" tg-height=\"572\"></p>\n<p>根据分析师的推算,存储芯片将在2027年四季度实现供需平衡,短缺状况在2026年三季度达到巅峰:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a994e24fd3c448c53407fe3ba406a72\" tg-width=\"723\" tg-height=\"561\"></p>\n<p>由此来看,存储芯片的好日子并非像英伟达、台积电一样具备可持续性,一旦供需接近平衡,存储芯片的价格涨势就会回落,换言之,美光当下80%的毛利率很难持续:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3554aa34ce256697c8459e467b1aab40\" tg-width=\"1391\" tg-height=\"584\"></p>\n<p>虽然日子不可能一直这么好,但今年美光的产能已经销售一空,部分大厂也开始和美光签署5年期长期供货合同,叠加SK海力士表示存储芯片短缺将持续至2030年,投资者无需担忧美光业绩,能够引起股价波动的只剩下估值。</p>\n<p>譬如当下,中东战争降低了市场的风险偏好,全市场流动性趋紧,科技股本就承压,再叠加谷歌的利空消息,美光不跌才怪。</p>\n<p>但从估值上看,美光的市净率已经下降至5.5倍,明显低于台积电的8.6倍,若有大的回调,值博率将大幅上升:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4598e81ea099a783468ebb701b89ddb8\" tg-width=\"1527\" tg-height=\"489\"></p>\n<p>如果说谷歌的TurboQuant稍稍利空存储芯片,那台积电、阿斯麦这类半导体公司就跌的很冤枉了,毕竟存储芯片只是GPU中的一个组件,它的使用量下降,不会妨碍台积电,因为存储芯片都是IDM模式,并不交由台积电生产。</p>\n<p>阿斯麦这类半导体设备股也在错杀之列,相比存储芯片,逻辑芯片产能扩张更凶猛,如台积电今年的资本开支高达540亿美元左右,分析师预计2027年的支出将提升至586亿美元!</p>\n<p>美光的资本开支也将持续多年维持在高位:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ecaf0cd9586f104baf35ecd9fd48a1b7\" tg-width=\"717\" tg-height=\"579\"></p>\n<p>加上阿斯麦当下的市盈率只有44倍,并未达到2021年半导体牛市时的高点,预计未来仍有向上的空间:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6436bbd4e81ba719bcc44cfd29b17502\" tg-width=\"1521\" tg-height=\"498\"></p>\n<p>因此,半导体ETF大幅回撤,不会是风险,更有可能是机会!</p>\n<p></p></body></html>","htmlText":"<html><head></head><body><p>3月25日, <a data-mention-id=\"GOOG\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"谷歌\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">$谷歌(GOOG)$</a> 发布全新AI内存压缩算法TurboQuant,宣称在不牺牲精准度的前提下,将大语言模型推理阶段的内存需求缩减6倍,并将运算速度提升8倍!</p>\n<p>具体来说,随着AI大模型性能的提升,上下文窗口不断扩大,键值缓存(KV缓存)存储的历史数据呈几何级增长,成为限制模型性能与成本的核心障碍。</p>\n<p>谷歌的TurboQuant通过极坐标量化(PolarQuant)与误差校正(QJL),在完全不损失模型精度的前提下,依然保持100%的检索召回率!</p>\n<p>该技术可以直接部署在现有AI系统上,引发市场对存储芯片需求会被削弱的担忧, <a data-mention-id=\"MU\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"美光科技\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MU\">$美光科技(MU)$</a> 、 <a data-mention-id=\"SNDK\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"闪迪\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SNDK\">$闪迪(SNDK)$</a> 、 <a data-mention-id=\"WDC\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"西部数据\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WDC\">$西部数据(WDC)$</a> 、 <a data-mention-id=\"STX\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"希捷科技\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/STX\">$希捷科技(STX)$</a> 等公司股价大跌!</p>\n<p>存储芯片股价的溃败蔓延至其他半导体公司上,如 <a data-mention-id=\"NVDA\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"英伟达\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$英伟达(NVDA)$</a> 昨日大跌4.2%、 <a data-mention-id=\"TSM\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"台积电\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSM\">$台积电(TSM)$</a> 大跌6.2%、 <a data-mention-id=\"ASML\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"阿斯麦\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ASML\">$阿斯麦(ASML)$</a> 大跌4.6%。</p>\n<p>受此影响,半导体ETF亦重挫,规模最大的 <a data-mention-id=\"SMH\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"半导体指数ETF-HOLDRs\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SMH\">$半导体指数ETF-HOLDRs(SMH)$</a> 跌超4.5%、 <a data-mention-id=\"SOXX\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"iShares费城交易所半导体ETF\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SOXX\">$iShares费城交易所半导体ETF(SOXX)$</a> 跌超4.7%、 <a data-mention-id=\"FTXL\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"First Trust Nasdaq Semiconductor ETF\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FTXL\">$First Trust Nasdaq Semiconductor ETF(FTXL)$</a> 跌超4.6%、 <a data-mention-id=\"PSI\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"INVESCO SEMICONDUCTORS ETF\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PSI\">$INVESCO SEMICONDUCTORS ETF(PSI)$</a> 大跌5.9%!</p>\n<p>这场大跌让人联想到2025年1月,当时DeepSeek横空出世,其开发成本只有数百万美元,但在性能上却可以媲美OpenAI,最关键的是,DeepSeek的大模型并未使用英伟达最先进的GPU!</p>\n<p>受此影响,市场担忧英伟达的GPU需求会受到不利影响,引发投资者抛售潮,导致英伟达在2025年1月27日暴跌17%,单日蒸发5890亿美元,创下美国股市历史上最大单日市值跌幅纪录!</p>\n<p>有了英伟达的案例,这次市场对美光的抛售稍显克制。谷歌TurboQuant发布的次日,美光仅下跌3.4%,昨日在中东局势恶化的情况下,科技股重挫,Meta大跌8%,微软创近一年来新低,纳斯达克指数大跌2.4%,恐慌情绪蔓延下,导致美光昨日的跌幅达到7%,虽然跌幅较大,但远不及彼时的英伟达!</p>\n<p>根据华尔街分析师的观点,谷歌的TurboQuant并不会颠覆存储芯片短缺的逻辑,如摩根士丹利分析师Joseph Moore在报告中表示,市场普遍解读“内存使用降低6倍”的说法存在夸大成分,该优化主要针对KV Cache内存,而非整体内存需求。他指出:“存储股近期下跌,部分原因正是这种过度解读所致。”</p>\n<p>报告进一步提到,谷歌最新模型Gemini 3与2.5 Pro已具备100万token上下文窗口,而此前Gemini 1.5 Pro在测试中甚至可支持高达1000万token,但因推理成本过高未对外发布。分析认为,随着TurboQuant等技术降低成本,未来AI模型将倾向于使用更大规模上下文和更复杂计算,从而带动整体算力与存储需求上升。</p>\n<p>基于这一判断,摩根士丹利重申对美光科技(MU.US)和闪迪(SNDK.US)的“增持”评级。分析师指出,目前AI发展面临的核心瓶颈依然是内存供给不足,尤其是DRAM领域,数据中心需求的快速增长已对PC和智能手机等终端产品的内存供应产生挤压。</p>\n<p>Moore强调:“从我们的产业链调研来看,并没有任何迹象表明内存或存储需求正在下降。”</p>\n<p>再如Lynx Equity Strategies在给客户的报告中写道,谷歌详述的方案“由于供应极度紧张,未来3-5年内几乎不会降低对内存和闪存的需求”。</p>\n<p>由此来看,此次存储芯片的调整,更像是巨大涨幅下面临利空消息及地缘政治下的正常调整,而存储芯片供不应求的核心逻辑并未被破坏!</p>\n<p>不过,值得注意的是,今年以来,以微软为代表的大型科技公司股价持续低迷,从历史高点算起, <a data-mention-id=\"MSFT\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"微软\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">$微软(MSFT)$</a> 回调的幅度高达34%, <a data-mention-id=\"META\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"Meta Platforms, Inc.\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">$Meta Platforms, Inc.(META)$</a> 超过31%, <a data-mention-id=\"AMZN\" class=\"teditor-mention\" data-mention-name=\"亚马逊\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$亚马逊(AMZN)$</a> 达到20%。</p>\n<p>大科技公司回调的核心原因是市场担忧巨额的AI资本开支能否换回可观的收入?另外,随着AI技术的进步,部分投资者也开始担忧AI会不会颠覆科技巨头的某项业务。</p>\n<p>如果大科技公司的股价持续低迷,势必会影响未来的AI投入。根据分析师的预测,科技公司今年在AI上的资本开支将超过6500亿美元,同比增长超40%,维持较快的增速。但展望2027年,科技公司在AI上的支出增速将回落至12%,明显放缓:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0bca7a222aefc089ceedb5dc528ca872\" tg-width=\"948\" tg-height=\"537\"></p>\n<p>另外从市场价来看,DDR5存储芯片的涨幅已经停滞:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adb3ce5bcfae849092b893133f6608fb\" tg-width=\"1017\" tg-height=\"572\"></p>\n<p>根据分析师的推算,存储芯片将在2027年四季度实现供需平衡,短缺状况在2026年三季度达到巅峰:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6a994e24fd3c448c53407fe3ba406a72\" tg-width=\"723\" tg-height=\"561\"></p>\n<p>由此来看,存储芯片的好日子并非像英伟达、台积电一样具备可持续性,一旦供需接近平衡,存储芯片的价格涨势就会回落,换言之,美光当下80%的毛利率很难持续:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3554aa34ce256697c8459e467b1aab40\" tg-width=\"1391\" tg-height=\"584\"></p>\n<p>虽然日子不可能一直这么好,但今年美光的产能已经销售一空,部分大厂也开始和美光签署5年期长期供货合同,叠加SK海力士表示存储芯片短缺将持续至2030年,投资者无需担忧美光业绩,能够引起股价波动的只剩下估值。</p>\n<p>譬如当下,中东战争降低了市场的风险偏好,全市场流动性趋紧,科技股本就承压,再叠加谷歌的利空消息,美光不跌才怪。</p>\n<p>但从估值上看,美光的市净率已经下降至5.5倍,明显低于台积电的8.6倍,若有大的回调,值博率将大幅上升:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4598e81ea099a783468ebb701b89ddb8\" tg-width=\"1527\" tg-height=\"489\"></p>\n<p>如果说谷歌的TurboQuant稍稍利空存储芯片,那台积电、阿斯麦这类半导体公司就跌的很冤枉了,毕竟存储芯片只是GPU中的一个组件,它的使用量下降,不会妨碍台积电,因为存储芯片都是IDM模式,并不交由台积电生产。</p>\n<p>阿斯麦这类半导体设备股也在错杀之列,相比存储芯片,逻辑芯片产能扩张更凶猛,如台积电今年的资本开支高达540亿美元左右,分析师预计2027年的支出将提升至586亿美元!</p>\n<p>美光的资本开支也将持续多年维持在高位:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ecaf0cd9586f104baf35ecd9fd48a1b7\" tg-width=\"717\" tg-height=\"579\"></p>\n<p>加上阿斯麦当下的市盈率只有44倍,并未达到2021年半导体牛市时的高点,预计未来仍有向上的空间:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6436bbd4e81ba719bcc44cfd29b17502\" tg-width=\"1521\" tg-height=\"498\"></p>\n<p>因此,半导体ETF大幅回撤,不会是风险,更有可能是机会!</p>\n<p></p></body></html>","text":"3月25日, $谷歌(GOOG)$ 发布全新AI内存压缩算法TurboQuant,宣称在不牺牲精准度的前提下,将大语言模型推理阶段的内存需求缩减6倍,并将运算速度提升8倍! 具体来说,随着AI大模型性能的提升,上下文窗口不断扩大,键值缓存(KV缓存)存储的历史数据呈几何级增长,成为限制模型性能与成本的核心障碍。 谷歌的TurboQuant通过极坐标量化(PolarQuant)与误差校正(QJL),在完全不损失模型精度的前提下,依然保持100%的检索召回率! 该技术可以直接部署在现有AI系统上,引发市场对存储芯片需求会被削弱的担忧, $美光科技(MU)$ 、 $闪迪(SNDK)$ 、 $西部数据(WDC)$ 、 $希捷科技(STX)$ 等公司股价大跌! 存储芯片股价的溃败蔓延至其他半导体公司上,如 $英伟达(NVDA)$ 昨日大跌4.2%、 $台积电(TSM)$ 大跌6.2%、 $阿斯麦(ASML)$ 大跌4.6%。 受此影响,半导体ETF亦重挫,规模最大的 $半导体指数ETF-HOLDRs(SMH)$ 跌超4.5%、 $iShares费城交易所半导体ETF(SOXX)$ 跌超4.7%、 $First Trust Nasdaq Semiconductor ETF(FTXL)$ 跌超4.6%、 $INVESCO SEMICONDUCTORS ETF(PSI)$ 大跌5.9%! 这场大跌让人联想到2025年1月,当时DeepSeek横空出世,其开发成本只有数百万美元,但在性能上却可以媲美OpenAI,最关键的是,DeepSeek的大模型并未使用英伟达最先进的GPU! 受此影响,市场担忧英伟达的GPU需求会受到不利影响,引发投资者抛售潮,导致英伟达在2025年1月27日暴跌17%,单日蒸发5890亿美元,创下美国股市历史上最大单日市值跌幅纪录! 有了英伟达的案例,这次市场对美光的抛售稍显克制。谷歌TurboQuant发布的次日,美光仅下跌3.4%,昨日在中东局势恶化的情况下,科技股重挫,Meta大跌8%,微软创近一年来新低,纳斯达克指数大跌2.4%,恐慌情绪蔓延下,导致美光昨日的跌幅达到7%,虽然跌幅较大,但远不及彼时的英伟达! 根据华尔街分析师的观点,谷歌的TurboQuant并不会颠覆存储芯片短缺的逻辑,如摩根士丹利分析师Joseph Moore在报告中表示,市场普遍解读“内存使用降低6倍”的说法存在夸大成分,该优化主要针对KV Cache内存,而非整体内存需求。他指出:“存储股近期下跌,部分原因正是这种过度解读所致。” 报告进一步提到,谷歌最新模型Gemini 3与2.5 Pro已具备100万token上下文窗口,而此前Gemini 1.5 Pro在测试中甚至可支持高达1000万token,但因推理成本过高未对外发布。分析认为,随着TurboQuant等技术降低成本,未来AI模型将倾向于使用更大规模上下文和更复杂计算,从而带动整体算力与存储需求上升。 基于这一判断,摩根士丹利重申对美光科技(MU.US)和闪迪(SNDK.US)的“增持”评级。分析师指出,目前AI发展面临的核心瓶颈依然是内存供给不足,尤其是DRAM领域,数据中心需求的快速增长已对PC和智能手机等终端产品的内存供应产生挤压。 Moore强调:“从我们的产业链调研来看,并没有任何迹象表明内存或存储需求正在下降。” 再如Lynx Equity Strategies在给客户的报告中写道,谷歌详述的方案“由于供应极度紧张,未来3-5年内几乎不会降低对内存和闪存的需求”。 由此来看,此次存储芯片的调整,更像是巨大涨幅下面临利空消息及地缘政治下的正常调整,而存储芯片供不应求的核心逻辑并未被破坏! 不过,值得注意的是,今年以来,以微软为代表的大型科技公司股价持续低迷,从历史高点算起, $微软(MSFT)$ 回调的幅度高达34%, $Meta Platforms, Inc.(META)$ 超过31%, $亚马逊(AMZN)$ 达到20%。 大科技公司回调的核心原因是市场担忧巨额的AI资本开支能否换回可观的收入?另外,随着AI技术的进步,部分投资者也开始担忧AI会不会颠覆科技巨头的某项业务。 如果大科技公司的股价持续低迷,势必会影响未来的AI投入。根据分析师的预测,科技公司今年在AI上的资本开支将超过6500亿美元,同比增长超40%,维持较快的增速。但展望2027年,科技公司在AI上的支出增速将回落至12%,明显放缓: 另外从市场价来看,DDR5存储芯片的涨幅已经停滞: 根据分析师的推算,存储芯片将在2027年四季度实现供需平衡,短缺状况在2026年三季度达到巅峰: 由此来看,存储芯片的好日子并非像英伟达、台积电一样具备可持续性,一旦供需接近平衡,存储芯片的价格涨势就会回落,换言之,美光当下80%的毛利率很难持续: 虽然日子不可能一直这么好,但今年美光的产能已经销售一空,部分大厂也开始和美光签署5年期长期供货合同,叠加SK海力士表示存储芯片短缺将持续至2030年,投资者无需担忧美光业绩,能够引起股价波动的只剩下估值。 譬如当下,中东战争降低了市场的风险偏好,全市场流动性趋紧,科技股本就承压,再叠加谷歌的利空消息,美光不跌才怪。 但从估值上看,美光的市净率已经下降至5.5倍,明显低于台积电的8.6倍,若有大的回调,值博率将大幅上升: 如果说谷歌的TurboQuant稍稍利空存储芯片,那台积电、阿斯麦这类半导体公司就跌的很冤枉了,毕竟存储芯片只是GPU中的一个组件,它的使用量下降,不会妨碍台积电,因为存储芯片都是IDM模式,并不交由台积电生产。 阿斯麦这类半导体设备股也在错杀之列,相比存储芯片,逻辑芯片产能扩张更凶猛,如台积电今年的资本开支高达540亿美元左右,分析师预计2027年的支出将提升至586亿美元! 美光的资本开支也将持续多年维持在高位: 加上阿斯麦当下的市盈率只有44倍,并未达到2021年半导体牛市时的高点,预计未来仍有向上的空间: 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那300的美光值得抄底吗