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ALUD

professional player 60 years

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2019-03-20

$小米集团-W(01810)$把利润都投入研发了，看来小米是想搞研发，不知道是好是坏，短期利空，长期如果小米运气好，能科研突破快点，财务撑得住就是好事，emmmmmm买太多的人先跑掉点也没毛病，谁了解小米研发团队的，给点意见喽？

2019-03-19

$小米集团-W(01810)$ 等你个惊喜财报给力点

2018-05-11

完蛋，不断创新低。。。。。。

$微博(WB)$趋势完蛋，接飞刀接出的悲剧

完蛋，不断创新低。。。。。。

2019-04-26

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 买早了，很受伤

2018-06-01

这阿里是想横多久啊。。。。

$阿里巴巴(BABA)$这都已经好几个星期了。。。

这阿里是想横多久啊。。。。

2018-05-11

这微博天天抽什么风

$微博(WB)$又暴跌？

这微博天天抽什么风

2020-01-02

$爱奇艺(IQ)$ 能涨多久。。。。

2018-11-20

$小米集团-W(01810)$今天把杠杆去了，继续支持。。。。

2018-11-08

$小米集团-W(01810)$默默支持。。。。

2019-03-12

$小米集团-W(01810)$这走势真难看，织布机。。。。。

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href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/dQSaylKcALZu3D80s_3pHw\">网页链接</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67ddaab67c271192b52371b38356b471","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/dQSaylKcALZu3D80s_3pHw","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/cc96873d3d23ee6ac10685520df9c100","article_id":"1178354444","content_text":"正在全球关注美股活久见的暴跌，见证历史时刻的时候，真正的历史时刻其实还没来。股市下跌对于美国经济冲击的远不如油价下跌。\n等等！油价下跌不是有利于降低经济运行成本，有利于美国经济么？如果看一下油价背后所关联的东西，就会明白，这颗炸弹的引信已然点燃。\n油价下跌的第一轮冲击是美国的页岩油公司。目前美国页岩油公司需要 48美元以上的油价才能“打平”综合生产成本，油价在48美元以下，美国页岩油行业就要出现倒闭潮。\n当然，倒闭潮不是油价在跌破48美元那一刻就会立即发生，因为页岩油公司测算的所谓成本里面很多都是“沉没成本”，油价就算只有10美元/桶，页岩油公司都要照样生产——一方面是寄希望于此后的油价回升；另一方面是能收回多少就收回多少成本。等到油井干涸后（页岩油油井生命周期只有2-3年，需要不断投入资本开采新的油井，才能保证产量），如果油价在此期间没有回升，那不但页岩油公司无法继续生产维持产量，用于支撑其庞大资本投入的债务也将违约。\n所以油价短期下跌的连锁冲击需要一点时间才能显现，但页岩油公司的债务由于预期会首先出现问题，而巨大的炸弹引信就从这里点燃。\n整个市场目前也正在演着这一逻辑演进着。美国页岩油公司SM 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