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中国AI的另一面,创业公司正在集体“出局”
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2024-12-13
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极越最好的出路就是学小米,加入北京汽车产业集群。
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集越要完,百度增长点减少
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2024-10-18
又来操控世界了
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2019-08-27
这篇文章不错,转发给大家看看
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002230\">科大讯飞</a>也有两个产品入榜,分别是讯飞星火和讯飞听见。</p><p>为什么国内AI产品市场会出现大厂一边倒?</p><p>一个很重要的原因是,资源的碾压。字节就是一个最典型的例子。2024年,当字节决定全力投入AI产品,仅一年时间,它就一口气推出了11个AI应用,比前一年几乎翻倍。</p><p>在AI产品的方向选择上,字节从不追求“原创”,更擅长复制爆款。从品类来看,字节跳动的产品覆盖了市面上主流的AI应用热门领域,包括聊天、社交、图像/视频、教育、音乐等,从聊天助手到效率工具,应有尽有。</p><p>豆包的成功正是这一策略的产物:一旦发现趋势,便集中资源与人才,迅速抹平差距。</p><p>其次是场景优势。大厂无需冷启动,只需将AI作为“功能插件”嵌入现有入口。夸克、百度文库就是典型代表。</p><p>这直接带来的结果是,更高的获客效率。QuestMobile的数据显示,这种“插件式AI”拉新成本仅为独立App的五分之一,用户留存率还要高两成。</p><p>在大厂主导AI产品的情况下,国内AI应用市场还和国外有一个很大的不同:没有绝对领先的AI产品。</p><p>在国外,可以说是ChatGPT一骑绝尘。根据AI产品榜的数据,ChatGPT在9月的访问量超过60亿,比2-9名AI产品的访问量加起来还要多。在移动端,ChatGPT的月活用户超过7亿,是排在第二名的5倍。</p><p>而在国内,排在前三的产品的MAU均在1.5亿,分别来自阿里、字节和百度。即使在原生AI应用上,豆包的MAU也大概为DeepSeek的2倍,远远没有达到ChatGPT的领先程度。</p><p>这正是国内AI竞争的现状:大厂全面控盘,胜负难分。</p><p><strong>02AI创业公司:被迫出海</strong></p><p>在大厂占据绝对主导地位的情况下,出海几乎成了中国AI创业公司的“唯一解”。</p><p>这也反映到了数据上。在不久前a16z发布的AI移动应用Top50里,有22个中国产品上榜,但只有三个主要在中国使用。也就是说,22个中国AI移动应用中有19个主战场在海外。</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20251014110118547d201aiverr2kcak\"/><p>在这22个产品里,来自大厂的产品不超过10家,占比远低于国内。这意味着,更多是创业公司和小厂在唱主角。</p><p>最令人意外的是,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01357\">美图</a>成为上榜最多的中国公司,一口气挤入榜单5个产品:美图秀秀、BeautyCam、美图设计室、Wink和AirBrush。</p><p>AI出海的“美图时刻”,某种意义上标志着新一代中国工具公司正在取代字节、阿里,成为全球AI消费级产品的新面孔。</p><p>AI创业公司“被迫”出海带来的直接后果,是人才与创新的外流。</p><p>以此前大火的Manus为例,其不仅放弃了产品在国内落地,还宣布将总部从中国迁往新加坡,并在美国、日本设立分部。原在华团队120人中,40名核心技术骨干随之迁出,其余大部分被裁撤。</p><p>在Manus之前,早在Manus之前,HeyGen已将总部从深圳迁至洛杉矶,Lovart则直接设总部于旧金山。</p><p>这背后固然有国内付费能力不足的考虑,但多少也受到了国内过于激烈的竞争环境影响。</p><p>比如,此前Kimi凭借“200万字上下文”功能登上热搜,但仅五天内,阿里、百度等大厂便迅速推出类似功能,以更高的字数上限迅速抹平差异。</p><p>类似地,MiniMax旗下星野凭借“多人语C群聊”出圈,冲进iOS娱乐榜前20,字节很快推出高度相似的“猫箱”,还新增抖音合拍入口。</p><p>这种“像素级跟进”,其差异化优势周期被压缩至“周”级。这种“像素级跟进”让Kimi、星野等少数跻身前20的产品,差异化优势周期被压缩至“周”级别,创业团队验证的“长文档总结”“语C群聊”新场景,三天内就会被大厂复刻并凭借更浅的入口、更低的成本推向市场。</p><p>在这种节奏下,创业团队要做出差异化、还要活下来,几乎不可能。</p><p><strong>03总结</strong></p><p>在中国,AI有着坚实的用户基础和极高的渗透潜力。</p><p>QuestMobile的数据显示,截至今年3月,国内AI原生App的月活用户数已达到2.7亿,甚至超过了ChatGPT的1.8亿。</p><p>但问题在于,这个庞大的用户池,并不意味着属于创业公司的机会。</p><p>国内的AI市场已经形成了非常典型的“双层结构”:上层是大厂驱动的生态整合,下层是工具层面的细分创新。</p><p>他们有数据、有流量、有钱、有工程师,掌控着用户每天都会打开的那些App。</p><p>与此同时,他们也在一点点压缩,留给创业公司的生存空间。无论是语音助手、图像生成、AI办公还是视频剪辑,创业团队的创新周期几乎都被压缩到数周。一旦出现亮点,大厂就能在功能、渠道、流量、价格上迅速追平。</p><p>于是,中国的AI市场呈现出一种极端的结构:用户规模在膨胀,但创新来源在收缩。</p><p>这也是一个悖论:中国的AI应用渗透率远高于世界平均水平,却鲜有像Perplexity、Runway那样能在产品端打出足够影响力的创业公司。大厂主导的模式让AI在中国跑得更快,却也让创业公司很难再生长。</p><p>AI的确正在重塑中国互联网的日常,但这个故事的主角,大概率还是那些已经赢过一遍的大厂们。</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002230\">科大讯飞</a>也有两个产品入榜,分别是讯飞星火和讯飞听见。</p><p>为什么国内AI产品市场会出现大厂一边倒?</p><p>一个很重要的原因是,资源的碾压。字节就是一个最典型的例子。2024年,当字节决定全力投入AI产品,仅一年时间,它就一口气推出了11个AI应用,比前一年几乎翻倍。</p><p>在AI产品的方向选择上,字节从不追求“原创”,更擅长复制爆款。从品类来看,字节跳动的产品覆盖了市面上主流的AI应用热门领域,包括聊天、社交、图像/视频、教育、音乐等,从聊天助手到效率工具,应有尽有。</p><p>豆包的成功正是这一策略的产物:一旦发现趋势,便集中资源与人才,迅速抹平差距。</p><p>其次是场景优势。大厂无需冷启动,只需将AI作为“功能插件”嵌入现有入口。夸克、百度文库就是典型代表。</p><p>这直接带来的结果是,更高的获客效率。QuestMobile的数据显示,这种“插件式AI”拉新成本仅为独立App的五分之一,用户留存率还要高两成。</p><p>在大厂主导AI产品的情况下,国内AI应用市场还和国外有一个很大的不同:没有绝对领先的AI产品。</p><p>在国外,可以说是ChatGPT一骑绝尘。根据AI产品榜的数据,ChatGPT在9月的访问量超过60亿,比2-9名AI产品的访问量加起来还要多。在移动端,ChatGPT的月活用户超过7亿,是排在第二名的5倍。</p><p>而在国内,排在前三的产品的MAU均在1.5亿,分别来自阿里、字节和百度。即使在原生AI应用上,豆包的MAU也大概为DeepSeek的2倍,远远没有达到ChatGPT的领先程度。</p><p>这正是国内AI竞争的现状:大厂全面控盘,胜负难分。</p><p><strong>02AI创业公司:被迫出海</strong></p><p>在大厂占据绝对主导地位的情况下,出海几乎成了中国AI创业公司的“唯一解”。</p><p>这也反映到了数据上。在不久前a16z发布的AI移动应用Top50里,有22个中国产品上榜,但只有三个主要在中国使用。也就是说,22个中国AI移动应用中有19个主战场在海外。</p><img src=\"https://fid-75186.picgzc.qpic.cn/20251014110118547d201aiverr2kcak\"/><p>在这22个产品里,来自大厂的产品不超过10家,占比远低于国内。这意味着,更多是创业公司和小厂在唱主角。</p><p>最令人意外的是,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01357\">美图</a>成为上榜最多的中国公司,一口气挤入榜单5个产品:美图秀秀、BeautyCam、美图设计室、Wink和AirBrush。</p><p>AI出海的“美图时刻”,某种意义上标志着新一代中国工具公司正在取代字节、阿里,成为全球AI消费级产品的新面孔。</p><p>AI创业公司“被迫”出海带来的直接后果,是人才与创新的外流。</p><p>以此前大火的Manus为例,其不仅放弃了产品在国内落地,还宣布将总部从中国迁往新加坡,并在美国、日本设立分部。原在华团队120人中,40名核心技术骨干随之迁出,其余大部分被裁撤。</p><p>在Manus之前,早在Manus之前,HeyGen已将总部从深圳迁至洛杉矶,Lovart则直接设总部于旧金山。</p><p>这背后固然有国内付费能力不足的考虑,但多少也受到了国内过于激烈的竞争环境影响。</p><p>比如,此前Kimi凭借“200万字上下文”功能登上热搜,但仅五天内,阿里、百度等大厂便迅速推出类似功能,以更高的字数上限迅速抹平差异。</p><p>类似地,MiniMax旗下星野凭借“多人语C群聊”出圈,冲进iOS娱乐榜前20,字节很快推出高度相似的“猫箱”,还新增抖音合拍入口。</p><p>这种“像素级跟进”,其差异化优势周期被压缩至“周”级。这种“像素级跟进”让Kimi、星野等少数跻身前20的产品,差异化优势周期被压缩至“周”级别,创业团队验证的“长文档总结”“语C群聊”新场景,三天内就会被大厂复刻并凭借更浅的入口、更低的成本推向市场。</p><p>在这种节奏下,创业团队要做出差异化、还要活下来,几乎不可能。</p><p><strong>03总结</strong></p><p>在中国,AI有着坚实的用户基础和极高的渗透潜力。</p><p>QuestMobile的数据显示,截至今年3月,国内AI原生App的月活用户数已达到2.7亿,甚至超过了ChatGPT的1.8亿。</p><p>但问题在于,这个庞大的用户池,并不意味着属于创业公司的机会。</p><p>国内的AI市场已经形成了非常典型的“双层结构”:上层是大厂驱动的生态整合,下层是工具层面的细分创新。</p><p>他们有数据、有流量、有钱、有工程师,掌控着用户每天都会打开的那些App。</p><p>与此同时,他们也在一点点压缩,留给创业公司的生存空间。无论是语音助手、图像生成、AI办公还是视频剪辑,创业团队的创新周期几乎都被压缩到数周。一旦出现亮点,大厂就能在功能、渠道、流量、价格上迅速追平。</p><p>于是,中国的AI市场呈现出一种极端的结构:用户规模在膨胀,但创新来源在收缩。</p><p>这也是一个悖论:中国的AI应用渗透率远高于世界平均水平,却鲜有像Perplexity、Runway那样能在产品端打出足够影响力的创业公司。大厂主导的模式让AI在中国跑得更快,却也让创业公司很难再生长。</p><p>AI的确正在重塑中国互联网的日常,但这个故事的主角,大概率还是那些已经赢过一遍的大厂们。</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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国际能源署(IEA)的一份新报告称,随着清洁技术的发展以满足不断增长的电力需求,世界正朝着更便宜的能源迈进,这将导致石油和天然气供应过剩。在主要情景下,倡导绿色技术的IEA预测,清洁能源将在2023年至2035年期间满足“几乎所有”能源需求增长,导致所有三种化石燃料的需求在2030年前达到峰值。这意味着2030年石油价格约为每桶79美元,高于其目前的交易价格。但在世界在中期实现净零排放目标,以限制全球变暖的方式下,IEA预计到2050年石油价格将跌至每桶25美元。该报告称:“清洁电力是未来,本展望的一个显著发现是电力需求的快速增长。”IEA连续第三个月下调了对今年石油需求增长的预测。IEA预计,今年全球石油需求增速将从之前的90.3万桶/日放缓至86.2万桶/日,明年的全球石油需求增速将从95.4万桶/日略微上调至99.8万桶/日。此外,该机构目前预计2024年和2025年的总需求分别平均为1.028亿桶和1.038亿桶。IEA的预测仍远低于欧佩克的预测。本周早些时候,欧佩克连续第三次下调预期,但仍认为今年和明年的需求增长将保持在每日193万桶和164万桶的健康水平。IEA指出,过去十年,电力使用量以整体能源需求的两倍速度增长,其中大部分需求来自中国。IEA强调了由中国主导的电动汽车行业的兴起是如何“打乱”石油生产商的。该报告称,“电动汽车目前在全球新车销量中约占20%,到2030年这一比例将上升至50%……到那时,电动汽车将取代每天约600万桶的石油需求。”该报告还提到了即将投产的大量新的液化天然气项目,这将导致到2040年之前出现供应过剩。报告称,“价格水平的下降将带来一些可喜的缓解,尤其是在燃料进口国。”然而,IEA警告说,更便宜的天然气可能会减缓向绿色能源的结构性转变,因为这会降低消费者转向绿色能源的经济效益。另外,对于中东冲突,IEA并不担心石油供应中断,该组织指出,如果伊朗和以色列之间的冲突导致供应中断,世界可以利用全球石油库存,并依靠欧佩克+的闲置产能。IEA表示,它“准备在必要时采取行动”。除5亿桶行业义务库存外,仅其公开的石油库存就超过12亿桶。在俄乌冲突后,这一国际能源机构曾于2022年协调了两次紧急库存释放。如果供应中断从伊朗石油业延伸到霍尔木兹海峡,全球对库存的依赖将变得更加明显。但IEA表示,只要供应持续流动,明年市场将面临“相当大的供应过剩”。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BZmain":1.1,"CLmain":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":805,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":994568714,"gmtCreate":1566867206238,"gmtModify":1704715181437,"author":{"id":"3481323530801424","authorId":"3481323530801424","name":"成讯","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/9c792313cb9d09e788f37aede19fb32d","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3481323530801424","authorIdStr":"3481323530801424"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看看","listText":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看看","text":"这篇文章不错,转发给大家看看","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/994568714","repostId":"994638102","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":994638102,"gmtCreate":1566620812506,"gmtModify":1704714881965,"author":{"id":"3518088597554014","authorId":"3518088597554014","name":"CALL","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5006a4a3c5b384b1cfc43b9550af8fc4","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3518088597554014","authorIdStr":"3518088597554014"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"气人不,哎,,,","listText":"气人不,哎,,,","text":"气人不,哎,,,","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d1628f5532bd8709dd6965922571a39d","width":"720","height":"1440"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/994638102","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":1,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1628,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}