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寂寞的演奏家
2020-02-13
$小米集团-W(01810)$
这价格感觉要凉..
寂寞的演奏家
2024-06-13
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
我说过了,560亿美金是股权激励计划,而不是董事会出资给马斯克, 560亿可是特斯拉10%的总市值哦。天朝的电动车铁锤还要锤几年,大家想好,不要蒙受巨大损失,
寂寞的演奏家
2019-02-20
$小米集团-W(01810)$ 雷军的眼泪,发布会几度哽咽的背后有什么
寂寞的演奏家
09-25
$苹果(AAPL)$
苹果这代17,就是为割韭菜而生的,说啥升级呢,除了摄像头好像没啥升级了。屏幕和机身材质都缩水了,价格还涨了10% 不是巨额营销费+饥饿营销,根本拉不动股价。。。
寂寞的演奏家
2024-10-11
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
时间表不可能有,选举之前政策导向一切都是未知。 只能赌一把车型过于好看, 过于领先,过于未来。 我比较看好自动驾驶卡车。而不是出租车
寂寞的演奏家
2018-12-09
感谢@话题虎 ,感谢虎妞,感谢社区的所有人。新的一年,大家发财! $标普500(.INX)$ $上证指数(000001.SH)$ $纳斯达克(.IXIC)$ $道琼斯(.DJI)$ $红筹指数(HSCCI)$ $恒生指数(HSI)$ $国企指数(HSCEI)$
寂寞的演奏家
09-12
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
果然,半个月之前没买真的后悔。。。。
寂寞的演奏家
2020-02-13
$小米集团-W(01810)$
大家来猜一猜PRO的定价吧!我猜4699
寂寞的演奏家
2019-07-11
$小米集团-W(01810)$ 小米的韭菜心理活动大概是: 1.哇,小米要上市了!我觉得打新能赚一笔! 2.哇,雷总放狠话了,这下看来稳赚不赔了,就算不翻倍也不至于赔本吧? 3.买买买! 4.哇第一天就破发了! 5.行不行啊,怎么感觉这走势有点疲软 6.哇,果然没看错小米,上20了!全仓干! 7.咦?走势怎么又软了?连续跌好几天了。 8.???怎么还在跌?要破15了? 9.???????我去nm,还真破9了?(此时已套牢亏损50%) 10.终于发财报了,财报看起来盈利了啊,怎么还在跌?? 11. ???????????解禁???? 12.qnm小米老子等你到5块的时候卖房子重仓你! 13.卸载了,不看了,不炒了
寂寞的演奏家
02-25
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
国内的情况很复杂,比如拥堵路口转弯等待行人后方车辆会一直按喇叭,这与国内驾驶习惯还是相差太多,一个水土不服的fsd会不会被监管叫停。。。 再有一个风险因素就是一旦出现事故致人伤亡,哪怕对方权责。你认为fsd在国内是否应该继续上路? 定价8800美金的fsd究竟渗透率能够有多少,,,, 储能和造车依然是特斯拉的主营业务,fsd争议应该会很大
寂寞的演奏家
2019-03-06
$小米集团-W(01810)$ vivo的新旗舰大家看了吗,44w快充我觉得小米9这波要悬了。
寂寞的演奏家
2024-10-21
$苹果(AAPL)$
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
如果财报连续不及预期,并且大选落空的话,未来有可能出售汽车销售部门,有可能收购的对象是苹果,苹果造车失败之后可能在市场上寻找成熟的造车方案,特斯拉就很合适, 其实FSD和 储能业务都可以与特斯拉造车业务剥离。
寂寞的演奏家
03-27
$诺和诺德(NVO)$
我来告诉你们为什么一直跌,因为特朗普的25%关税包含药品的进口关税,诺和诺德有将近一半的营收来自于美国,这就是它一直跌的原因。 虽然关税并没有正式落地,但是这把达摩克利斯之剑迟早要落下来,那么在此之前,它会一直跌。 直到关税被彻底消化才会开始上涨。 估计4年内不会涨了,小散户们可以割肉了
寂寞的演奏家
2018-11-30
$京东(JD)$ 京东超市都开到你家楼下了,你还在猜京东有没有假货?某些人是不是应该更新一下自己的眼界了是不是我可爱的@搜索关键字701计划
寂寞的演奏家
03-11
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
根据我之前的预测,还有10%-15%的下跌空间,就会回归到第一层市盈率合理区间。 也就是市盈率在90左右会有资金进来。
寂寞的演奏家
2018-12-03
#2018年度大放送# 参与参与
寂寞的演奏家
2018-09-06
$京东(JD)$ 时间会证明一切
寂寞的演奏家
2018-12-20
$小米集团-W(01810)$ 台历收到了!实木的很漂亮的说!祝大家2019珠圆玉润!@话题虎 @小虎ETF @小虎消息 @老虎证券 @老虎专刊 @小虎活动 #今日话题# $京东(JD)$ $小米集团-W(01810)$ $美团点评-W(03690)$ $唯品会(VIPS)$ $腾讯音乐(TME)$ $虎牙(HUYA)$ $优信(UXIN)$ $纳斯达克(.IXIC)$ $标普500(.INX)$ $道琼斯(.DJI)$ $恒生指数(HSI)$ $国企指数(HSCEI)$ $红筹指数(HSCCI)$ $上证指数(000001.SH)$ $AMD(AMD)$ $阿里巴巴(BABA)$ $腾讯控股(00700)$
寂寞的演奏家
2024-10-07
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
马斯克今天的表演快把我看吐了, 在特朗普边上跳脚。。。。。
寂寞的演奏家
2024-07-10
$苹果(AAPL)$
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id=\"id_521151614\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">▍AI 与创新浪潮的历史节点</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie Wood 在节目一开场就抛出了一个惊人的判断:未来 5 到 10 年,全球经济的增长速度将被彻底改写。她认为,如今世界正处在过去 125 年以来最重要的一次创新临界点。<strong>AI、机器人、区块链、能源存储与多组学测序五大技术平台的同时成熟,将重新定义生产率的增长方式。</strong></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/26dc90bd8591c5823c8f5b2469cd0299\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"425\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她展示了一张创新时间轴,从 1700 年代延伸至当下。她解释说,过去 400 年里,人类的实际 GDP 年均增速仅 0.6%,直到电话、电力与内燃机出现,才迎来第一次结构性跃升——全球经济进入了持续 125 年、年均 3% 的高增长期。“<strong>那是一次五倍速的飞跃,而这一次,我们正站在另一个同样规模的门口。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">这一次的不同在于,创新不再是单一行业的突破,而是多平台、多技术的叠加。她强调,未来的研究与投资逻辑将不再按照传统行业划分,而应以技术为核心轴心——因为技术已经穿透所有边界。她说:“<strong>我们不再按行业研究世界,而是按技术,因为技术将模糊行业的界限。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie 用了“收敛(convergence)”来描述这一趋势。她以自动驾驶为例,指出这是机器人、AI 与能源存储三大平台的交汇点——每一条技术 S 曲线都在推动另一条进入加速区间。特斯拉在奥斯汀与旧金山推出的无人出租车,是这种叠加效应的早期样本。“<strong>一个 S 曲线喂养另一个 S 曲线,这正是爆发的开始。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她同时认为,医疗健康领域的创新将带来更深远的影响。AI 与基因测序、CRISPR 基因编辑等技术的结合,将从根本上改变疾病诊断与治疗模式,这一方向在资本市场上仍被严重低估。“<strong>医疗是 AI 最深刻的落地场景,也是最被低估的市场。</strong>”</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e96fa0f2add10a45ff9bfcd0489b91ab\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"548\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie 反复强调,这场创新的关键不只是数量,而是速度。每一项新技术的成熟都在缩短另一项的研发周期,从而形成指数级的复利效应。她用一句话概括当下的时代精神:“<strong>历史上第一次,我们在同一时间见证五个平台、十五项技术同时进入爆发期。</strong>”</p><h2 id=\"id_1131379528\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">▍技术收敛的经济影响</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie Wood 认为,五大创新平台的同时爆发与交叉融合,将直接重塑全球经济结构。她指出,在 19 世纪末那次工业革命后,人类进入了长达一个多世纪的 3% 实际 GDP 增长时代,如今我们正站在另一个翻倍周期的入口。<strong>她预计未来十年全球实际 GDP 增速有望从 3% 提升至 7% 以上,而通胀可能下降至 0%,甚至出现负通胀。</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她解释,这并非凭空乐观,而是源于“生产率与资本效率的叠加跃迁”。创新不只在创造新产品,更在降低成本、压缩通胀、释放效率。AI 驱动的自动化与预测模型,使企业在资源配置与决策上接近“零摩擦”;机器人与能源存储技术的进步,则让制造与运输成本断崖式下降。她总结道:“<strong>通胀的下降将不是货币政策的结果,而是技术递进的结果。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">谈到美国政策环境,她特别提及特朗普时期的税改将成为技术周期的加速器。她认为,企业税减免、资本支出全额抵扣、结构与设备的即时折旧,以及研发费用的当期扣除,都是极强的投资信号。“<strong>企业现在可以在第一年就全额抵扣机器设备与软件成本,这种激励在历史上前所未有。</strong>”她预期,这会引发新一轮资本支出浪潮,制造业、能源与数字基础设施都将成为直接受益者。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f682880e5a308b05c7e5ac55e9c89aac\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"536\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie 进一步指出,在资本市场上,创新的价值仍被严重低估。她展示的估值图显示,2019 至 2024 年间,“Mag 6”(苹果、微软、谷歌、亚马逊、Meta 与英伟达)的总市值增长了三倍,而真正的颠覆式创新企业仅上涨 30%。她解释,这是风险偏好的集中效应:投资者在不确定性中转向巨头,忽视了潜在的技术杠杆。“<strong>过去五年,市场买的是确定性,不是未来。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">在她看来,资金的这种集中让市场像一根被拉得过紧的橡皮筋。如今,宏观环境的变化正在让这根橡皮筋回弹。她表示:“<strong>过去四年,创新被压抑;现在,这股力量正在被释放。</strong>”她认为,特朗普政府的减税政策为资本形成提供了信心,“企业家精神与技术创新的合流”将成为新一轮牛市的底层逻辑。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她预计,未来五年,真正的颠覆式创新资产将在资本市场中迎来估值重估。根据 ARK 的预测模型,这些公司在公共市场的年化回报率可能达到 40% 至 50%。Cathie 说:“<strong>如果过去一个世纪的增长来自电力与内燃机,那么下一个十年,将由 AI、机器人与基因科技共同定义。</strong>”</p><h2 id=\"id_3983886833\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">▍ARK 的策略与风险管理</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">在被问及 ARK 如何应对市场波动时,Cathie Wood 强调,团队始终坚持“高信念、技术导向”的投资框架,而非追随市场情绪。她坦言,ARK 的投资组合与传统基准差异极大,这也意味着更高的波动性,但那正是策略的一部分。<strong>“当市场恐惧时,我们向未来集中;当市场贪婪时,我们才开始分散。”</strong></p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她解释,在熊市阶段,ARK 会收缩持仓,将资金集中在评分最高、确定性最强的公司上。团队内部采用一套量化评分系统,从管理执行力、护城河、产品或服务领先度、估值合理性以及假设风险五个维度对标的进行动态评估。她说:“<strong>熊市不是防守的时候,而是验证信念的阶段。</strong>”通过这种方式,ARK 在周期底部建立长期配置,等待技术与估值的拐点。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">而在牛市阶段,策略则反向展开。随着 IPO 市场复苏、新兴企业进入公众视野,ARK 会适度分散,扩充到更多具有潜力的新标的。她认为,这种动态配置能平衡创新周期与资本周期的错位问题——当新公司获得融资并公开上市,ARK 已经通过研究提前布局了技术栈与商业模型。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie 指出,当前市场正处于一个“扩散型牛市”的早期阶段:过去五年资金集中在“Mag 6”,如今风险偏好开始回归,资本正重新流向更广义的创新赛道。“<strong>我们看到市场从防御回到进攻,投资者的时间视野正在延长。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她同时否认外界对 ARK“激进交易”的误解。她表示,公司不会因短期恐慌而提高现金比例或对冲仓位,这些决策交由顾问与客户自行判断。ARK 的职责,是持续研究长期创新曲线,找到未来五年能创造几何级价值的企业。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">在谈到风险控制时,Cathie 认为最大的风险来自“认知停滞”。她提醒投资者,技术革命往往在最平静的年份悄然发生,而传统估值模型往往在这一刻失灵。“<strong>如果你只看市盈率,就像在工业革命前计算马匹的速度。真正的风险不是波动,而是错过复利的起点。</strong>”</p><h2 id=\"id_3748551642\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">▍比特币与金融自由</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">当话题转向加密资产时,Cathie Wood 明确指出,ARK 对比特币的长期逻辑建立在“资产配置效率”与“货币体系重构”两条主线之上。她纠正了主持人关于价格预期的误解:“<strong>我们的官方牛市预期是 150 万美元一枚。</strong>”而此前市场流传的 380 万美元预期,是基于现代投资组合理论(MPT)计算出的理论最优值——假设在多元化资产组合中配置比特币至最佳夏普比率位置。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她解释,在模型中,这一最优配置比例约为 19%。换言之,如果机构或家族办公室在多资产组合中将近五分之一的仓位投入比特币,那么价格有可能达到 380 万美元,但这是极端假设,并非官方预测。她笑着补充:“<strong>那样的仓位太激进了,连我自己都不会这样配。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">对于普通投资者,Cathie 的建议始终克制而一致——采用长期定投策略,而非试图择时。她说自己一直告诉孩子们“<strong>平均投入,耐心等待</strong>”,每月或每季度固定金额买入,不受短期波动影响。“只要相信底层逻辑,就不要被价格吓跑。”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她进而谈到一个更广泛的话题:普通人如何参与创新的财富创造。过去几年,她经常被散户投资者问到:“为什么我们不能投资那些真正改变世界的公司?我们理解这些技术,比机构更早接触它们,却连投资资格都没有。”在她看来,这种结构性壁垒正在扭曲创新的普惠价值。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她指出,美国目前只有 5% 至 6% 的人符合“合格投资者”标准,可以参与私募股权或风险投资;而普通人即使每天使用 ChatGPT,也无法投资 OpenAI,却可以自由购买彩票或下注体育赛事。“<strong>这种制度荒谬至极。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cathie 认为,问题的核心不在风险控制,而在制度路径依赖。她主张通过“知识测验”代替“财富门槛”——就像驾驶执照一样,只要通过基础投资测试,就能参与更高风险的市场。“<strong>我们不应因为你没钱,就假设你不懂风险。</strong>”她强调,创新带来的财富效应本应是社会共识,而非少数人的专利。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">在她看来,创新投资的民主化是未来十年的重要趋势。ETF 模式已为普通人打开了低门槛通道,而区块链与数字资产则可能进一步扩展这一边界。“ARK 的目标,是把未来变成所有人的机会,而不是少数人的特权。”</p><h2 id=\"id_126391274\" style=\"text-align: justify;\">▍特斯拉、马斯克与新企业范式</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">当被问及如何看待马斯克的“万亿美元薪酬方案”。她笑着回应,这种薪酬设计在外界看来大胆,但在她眼中“完全合理”。<strong>“Elon 的激励机制与我们的模型不谋而合——它反映的正是他对技术收敛的押注。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她透露,ARK 每年都会更新特斯拉的 5 年估值模型。当前模型中,目标价约为每股 2600 美元,而现价仅在 330 美元上下。她补充,这个估值中对人形机器人(Humanoid)业务的预期还“极其保守”,“<strong>如果他在人形机器人方向实现突破,我们的模型远远不够乐观。</strong>”</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">特斯拉的真正优势不是造车,而是三大平台的深度融合:AI、机器人与能源存储。这一融合首先体现在无人出租车(Robotaxi)领域,而人形机器人正是同一逻辑的延伸。“<strong>这是同一场革命在不同形态下的展开。</strong>”她认为,特斯拉已经建立了独特的“系统飞轮”:AI 训练与能源管理能力相互强化,使得硬件创新具备前所未有的规模效率。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">她强调,马斯克的管理方式并非盲目冒进,而是严格遵循“第一性原理”——一切基于物理与里程碑。“他极具纪律性,每当错过一个里程碑,他都会亲自介入修正。”在她看来,马斯克代表了一种新型企业家的范式:既有科学家的思维,又具备资本家的执行力。</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1692098431120","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>木头姐最新预言!AI将让全球GDP翻倍、比特币剑指150万美元、特斯拉目标价2600美元</title>\n<style 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的高增长期。“那是一次五倍速的飞跃,而这一次,我们正站在另一个同样规模的门口。”这一次的不同在于,创新不再是单一行业的突破,而是多平台、多技术的叠加。她强调,未来的研究与投资逻辑将不再按照传统行业划分,而应以技术为核心轴心——因为技术已经穿透所有边界。她说:“我们不再按行业研究世界,而是按技术,因为技术将模糊行业的界限。”Cathie 用了“收敛(convergence)”来描述这一趋势。她以自动驾驶为例,指出这是机器人、AI 与能源存储三大平台的交汇点——每一条技术 S 曲线都在推动另一条进入加速区间。特斯拉在奥斯汀与旧金山推出的无人出租车,是这种叠加效应的早期样本。“一个 S 曲线喂养另一个 S 曲线,这正是爆发的开始。”她同时认为,医疗健康领域的创新将带来更深远的影响。AI 与基因测序、CRISPR 基因编辑等技术的结合,将从根本上改变疾病诊断与治疗模式,这一方向在资本市场上仍被严重低估。“医疗是 AI 最深刻的落地场景,也是最被低估的市场。”Cathie 反复强调,这场创新的关键不只是数量,而是速度。每一项新技术的成熟都在缩短另一项的研发周期,从而形成指数级的复利效应。她用一句话概括当下的时代精神:“历史上第一次,我们在同一时间见证五个平台、十五项技术同时进入爆发期。”▍技术收敛的经济影响Cathie Wood 认为,五大创新平台的同时爆发与交叉融合,将直接重塑全球经济结构。她指出,在 19 世纪末那次工业革命后,人类进入了长达一个多世纪的 3% 实际 GDP 增长时代,如今我们正站在另一个翻倍周期的入口。她预计未来十年全球实际 GDP 增速有望从 3% 提升至 7% 以上,而通胀可能下降至 0%,甚至出现负通胀。她解释,这并非凭空乐观,而是源于“生产率与资本效率的叠加跃迁”。创新不只在创造新产品,更在降低成本、压缩通胀、释放效率。AI 驱动的自动化与预测模型,使企业在资源配置与决策上接近“零摩擦”;机器人与能源存储技术的进步,则让制造与运输成本断崖式下降。她总结道:“通胀的下降将不是货币政策的结果,而是技术递进的结果。”谈到美国政策环境,她特别提及特朗普时期的税改将成为技术周期的加速器。她认为,企业税减免、资本支出全额抵扣、结构与设备的即时折旧,以及研发费用的当期扣除,都是极强的投资信号。“企业现在可以在第一年就全额抵扣机器设备与软件成本,这种激励在历史上前所未有。”她预期,这会引发新一轮资本支出浪潮,制造业、能源与数字基础设施都将成为直接受益者。Cathie 进一步指出,在资本市场上,创新的价值仍被严重低估。她展示的估值图显示,2019 至 2024 年间,“Mag 6”(苹果、微软、谷歌、亚马逊、Meta 与英伟达)的总市值增长了三倍,而真正的颠覆式创新企业仅上涨 30%。她解释,这是风险偏好的集中效应:投资者在不确定性中转向巨头,忽视了潜在的技术杠杆。“过去五年,市场买的是确定性,不是未来。”在她看来,资金的这种集中让市场像一根被拉得过紧的橡皮筋。如今,宏观环境的变化正在让这根橡皮筋回弹。她表示:“过去四年,创新被压抑;现在,这股力量正在被释放。”她认为,特朗普政府的减税政策为资本形成提供了信心,“企业家精神与技术创新的合流”将成为新一轮牛市的底层逻辑。她预计,未来五年,真正的颠覆式创新资产将在资本市场中迎来估值重估。根据 ARK 的预测模型,这些公司在公共市场的年化回报率可能达到 40% 至 50%。Cathie 说:“如果过去一个世纪的增长来自电力与内燃机,那么下一个十年,将由 AI、机器人与基因科技共同定义。”▍ARK 的策略与风险管理在被问及 ARK 如何应对市场波动时,Cathie Wood 强调,团队始终坚持“高信念、技术导向”的投资框架,而非追随市场情绪。她坦言,ARK 的投资组合与传统基准差异极大,这也意味着更高的波动性,但那正是策略的一部分。“当市场恐惧时,我们向未来集中;当市场贪婪时,我们才开始分散。”她解释,在熊市阶段,ARK 会收缩持仓,将资金集中在评分最高、确定性最强的公司上。团队内部采用一套量化评分系统,从管理执行力、护城河、产品或服务领先度、估值合理性以及假设风险五个维度对标的进行动态评估。她说:“熊市不是防守的时候,而是验证信念的阶段。”通过这种方式,ARK 在周期底部建立长期配置,等待技术与估值的拐点。而在牛市阶段,策略则反向展开。随着 IPO 市场复苏、新兴企业进入公众视野,ARK 会适度分散,扩充到更多具有潜力的新标的。她认为,这种动态配置能平衡创新周期与资本周期的错位问题——当新公司获得融资并公开上市,ARK 已经通过研究提前布局了技术栈与商业模型。Cathie 指出,当前市场正处于一个“扩散型牛市”的早期阶段:过去五年资金集中在“Mag 6”,如今风险偏好开始回归,资本正重新流向更广义的创新赛道。“我们看到市场从防御回到进攻,投资者的时间视野正在延长。”她同时否认外界对 ARK“激进交易”的误解。她表示,公司不会因短期恐慌而提高现金比例或对冲仓位,这些决策交由顾问与客户自行判断。ARK 的职责,是持续研究长期创新曲线,找到未来五年能创造几何级价值的企业。在谈到风险控制时,Cathie 认为最大的风险来自“认知停滞”。她提醒投资者,技术革命往往在最平静的年份悄然发生,而传统估值模型往往在这一刻失灵。“如果你只看市盈率,就像在工业革命前计算马匹的速度。真正的风险不是波动,而是错过复利的起点。”▍比特币与金融自由当话题转向加密资产时,Cathie Wood 明确指出,ARK 对比特币的长期逻辑建立在“资产配置效率”与“货币体系重构”两条主线之上。她纠正了主持人关于价格预期的误解:“我们的官方牛市预期是 150 万美元一枚。”而此前市场流传的 380 万美元预期,是基于现代投资组合理论(MPT)计算出的理论最优值——假设在多元化资产组合中配置比特币至最佳夏普比率位置。她解释,在模型中,这一最优配置比例约为 19%。换言之,如果机构或家族办公室在多资产组合中将近五分之一的仓位投入比特币,那么价格有可能达到 380 万美元,但这是极端假设,并非官方预测。她笑着补充:“那样的仓位太激进了,连我自己都不会这样配。”对于普通投资者,Cathie 的建议始终克制而一致——采用长期定投策略,而非试图择时。她说自己一直告诉孩子们“平均投入,耐心等待”,每月或每季度固定金额买入,不受短期波动影响。“只要相信底层逻辑,就不要被价格吓跑。”她进而谈到一个更广泛的话题:普通人如何参与创新的财富创造。过去几年,她经常被散户投资者问到:“为什么我们不能投资那些真正改变世界的公司?我们理解这些技术,比机构更早接触它们,却连投资资格都没有。”在她看来,这种结构性壁垒正在扭曲创新的普惠价值。她指出,美国目前只有 5% 至 6% 的人符合“合格投资者”标准,可以参与私募股权或风险投资;而普通人即使每天使用 ChatGPT,也无法投资 OpenAI,却可以自由购买彩票或下注体育赛事。“这种制度荒谬至极。”Cathie 认为,问题的核心不在风险控制,而在制度路径依赖。她主张通过“知识测验”代替“财富门槛”——就像驾驶执照一样,只要通过基础投资测试,就能参与更高风险的市场。“我们不应因为你没钱,就假设你不懂风险。”她强调,创新带来的财富效应本应是社会共识,而非少数人的专利。在她看来,创新投资的民主化是未来十年的重要趋势。ETF 模式已为普通人打开了低门槛通道,而区块链与数字资产则可能进一步扩展这一边界。“ARK 的目标,是把未来变成所有人的机会,而不是少数人的特权。”▍特斯拉、马斯克与新企业范式当被问及如何看待马斯克的“万亿美元薪酬方案”。她笑着回应,这种薪酬设计在外界看来大胆,但在她眼中“完全合理”。“Elon 的激励机制与我们的模型不谋而合——它反映的正是他对技术收敛的押注。”她透露,ARK 每年都会更新特斯拉的 5 年估值模型。当前模型中,目标价约为每股 2600 美元,而现价仅在 330 美元上下。她补充,这个估值中对人形机器人(Humanoid)业务的预期还“极其保守”,“如果他在人形机器人方向实现突破,我们的模型远远不够乐观。”特斯拉的真正优势不是造车,而是三大平台的深度融合:AI、机器人与能源存储。这一融合首先体现在无人出租车(Robotaxi)领域,而人形机器人正是同一逻辑的延伸。“这是同一场革命在不同形态下的展开。”她认为,特斯拉已经建立了独特的“系统飞轮”:AI 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你要是减配换产能,我还勉强觉得你利润不会少。。。。。"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":486601686266112,"gmtCreate":1759828014717,"gmtModify":1759828017039,"author":{"id":"3495002759494258","authorId":"3495002759494258","name":"寂寞的演奏家","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9027c93e57bb45c8170d7860486ffda7","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3495002759494258","authorIdStr":"3495002759494258"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"不应对,不降息","listText":"不应对,不降息","text":"不应对,不降息","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/486601686266112","repostId":"1171883298","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1171883298","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1759827525,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1171883298?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2025-10-07 16:58","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"美国政府关门持续,市场关心的核心数据怎么办?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1171883298","media":"华尔街见闻","summary":"投资者必须转向替代性数据。","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><em>作者:潘凌飞</em></p><p>对于投资者而言,当前美国政府关门的核心影响在于,它制造了一个关键经济数据的“真空期”。随着非农就业、CPI等重磅报告的推迟发布,市场判断经济走向和美联储政策路径的难度显著增加。投资者必须转向依赖替代性数据,但需警惕其固有的局限性和潜在偏差。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">据高盛的分析,本次关门对经济的直接冲击相对可控,预计每周将拖累第四季度GDP年化增长率约0.11个百分点,且这部分损失有望在政府重开后的第一季度得到弥补。然而,关门时间越长,数据缺失带来的不确定性就越大,这本身就是一种市场风险。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">本文将梳理在美国政府关门期间,投资者可以关注哪些替代数据,它们的优缺点,以及关门对经济和数据质量的实际影响。</p><h2 id=\"id_1380705861\" style=\"text-align: left;\">一、 关门或将持久,数据发布面临“真空期”</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">自10月1日起,美国联邦政府正式关门。与以往不同,此次关门持续时间可能更长。根据预测市场的数据,此次关门持续至少10天的概率高达85%,与1995年和2013年的情况类似。如果关门持续到10月15日之后,约130万军警人员将面临薪资停发,届时两党达成妥协的压力将剧增。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">政府关门最直接的后果是,几乎所有联邦经济数据都将推迟发布,直到政府重新开放。这包括市场最为关注的就业报告和消费者价格指数(CPI)。不过,有三类数据值得注意:</p><ol start=\"1\" style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>美联储</strong>:由于其资金不依赖国会拨款,将继续按时发布数据。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>财政部</strong>:每日财政报表(Daily Treasury Statement)的发布不受影响。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>失业金申请数据</strong>:虽然官方周四的报告暂停,但各州仍在发布数据,可以通过汇总得到一个等效的全国数据系列。</p></li></ol><p style=\"text-align: left;\">此外,所有私营机构(如ISM、NFIB、世界大型企业联合会等)发布的数据均不受影响。历史经验表明,政府重开后,被推迟的数据发布时间将顺延,延期时长通常略长于关门持续的时间,并且后续的报告也可能因积压工作而延迟。</p><h2 id=\"id_4083483709\" style=\"text-align: left;\">二、 替代数据观察:如何在“数据盲”中摸索前行</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">在官方数据缺失的背景下,投资者可以借助私营部门和部分仍可用的政府数据,继续追踪劳动力市场、通胀和整体经济的脉搏。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>劳动力市场:</strong> 高盛利用仍可用的数据更新了其劳动力市场追踪模型。结果显示,其<strong>就业增长追踪指标</strong>在经历了4月和5月接近零增长的低谷后,已在9月份反弹至每月8万人的水平。但该模型的一大短板是无法有效追踪政府招聘趋势。值得注意的是,一项联邦政府的“延迟辞职计划”已于9月30日结束,预计将导致约12.5万名员工的离职体现在10月份的就业数据中,对当月就业增长构成显著拖累。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">在<strong>劳动力市场紧张程度</strong>方面,无论是常规模型还是仅使用可用数据的“关门版”模型,均显示截至8月,劳动力市场的紧张程度已低于2018-2019年时期,并且“关门版”模型暗示9月份市场紧张程度进一步放缓。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>通胀数据:</strong> 尽管不存在能够全面替代官方CPI的高质量数据,但通过高盛的自下而上模型,我们仍能一窥通胀趋势。该模型利用替代性价格数据对各主要分项进行预测。初步估算显示,9月份核心CPI月度涨幅可能已放缓至0.26%,低于8月份的0.35%。具体来看,模型预测二手车价格上涨0.5%,新车价格上涨0.1%,而机票价格下跌1.5%,租金涨幅则有所放缓。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">然而,投资者必须认识到,在没有官方数据进行交叉验证的情况下,长期依赖模型预测的风险在于,模型与实际通胀之间的偏差可能会在不被察觉的情况下累积。</p><h2 id=\"id_1755456914\" style=\"text-align: left;\">三、 替代数据的局限性:投资者需警惕两大陷阱</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">在使用替代数据时,投资者需要注意两个关键问题:</p><ol start=\"1\" style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>并非所有替代数据都可靠</strong>:许多替代数据同样面临官方数据存在的问题,如数据错误、收集率低、大幅修正等,甚至还存在代表性不足等特有缺陷。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>“软数据”可能过度悲观</strong>:在政府关门期间,消费者和企业信心等“软数据”(即情绪调查)往往会比反映实际经济活动的“硬数据”表现出更大幅度的放缓。在2013年和2019年的关门事件中都出现了这种情况,因此它们可能会夸大经济的疲软程度。</p></li></ol><h2 id=\"id_248165162\" style=\"text-align: left;\">四、 关门对经济的实际影响几何?</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">根据高盛的测算,政府关门对经济的直接影响相对温和。</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>对GDP的影响</strong>:此次关门涉及约62.7万名联邦雇员休假。预计每关门一周,将对第四季度实际GDP的季调后年化增长率产生约0.11个百分点的直接拖累。不过,一旦政府在第四季度结束前重开,这部分损失将在明年第一季度以同等规模反弹回来。</p></li><li><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>对劳动力市场的影响</strong>:关门对就业数据的影响可能与直觉相反。在<strong>非农就业报告(机构调查)</strong>中,由于休假员工依法将在政府重开后获得补发薪水,他们很可能仍被视作“在职”,因此对就业人数影响甚微。而在<strong>失业率(家庭调查)</strong>方面,这些员工理论上应被计为“临时解雇”,这可能导致失业率上升0.1个百分点。但历史经验表明,在2013年和2018-2019年的关门期间,大部分休假员工被错误地归类为“在职但未上班”,因此实际影响可能更小。</p></li></ul><h2 id=\"id_1359927406\" style=\"text-align: left;\">五、 数据质量隐忧:延期发布的数据还可信吗?</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">长时间的关门可能会通过两种方式损害最终发布的数据质量。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">首先,数据收集工作本身会受影响。例如,在2013年关门期间,负责CPI数据采集的价格调查员被强制休假,导致劳工统计局(BLS)仅收集了约75%的常规价格样本。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">其次,收集流程或参考周期的改变可能引入偏差。例如,在1995年关门事件后,BLS曾指出,调查参考周的变更以及调查日期与参考周之间间隔的拉长,都可能对受访者的回答产生影响。</p><p style=\"text-align: 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替代数据观察:如何在“数据盲”中摸索前行在官方数据缺失的背景下,投资者可以借助私营部门和部分仍可用的政府数据,继续追踪劳动力市场、通胀和整体经济的脉搏。劳动力市场: 高盛利用仍可用的数据更新了其劳动力市场追踪模型。结果显示,其就业增长追踪指标在经历了4月和5月接近零增长的低谷后,已在9月份反弹至每月8万人的水平。但该模型的一大短板是无法有效追踪政府招聘趋势。值得注意的是,一项联邦政府的“延迟辞职计划”已于9月30日结束,预计将导致约12.5万名员工的离职体现在10月份的就业数据中,对当月就业增长构成显著拖累。在劳动力市场紧张程度方面,无论是常规模型还是仅使用可用数据的“关门版”模型,均显示截至8月,劳动力市场的紧张程度已低于2018-2019年时期,并且“关门版”模型暗示9月份市场紧张程度进一步放缓。通胀数据: 尽管不存在能够全面替代官方CPI的高质量数据,但通过高盛的自下而上模型,我们仍能一窥通胀趋势。该模型利用替代性价格数据对各主要分项进行预测。初步估算显示,9月份核心CPI月度涨幅可能已放缓至0.26%,低于8月份的0.35%。具体来看,模型预测二手车价格上涨0.5%,新车价格上涨0.1%,而机票价格下跌1.5%,租金涨幅则有所放缓。然而,投资者必须认识到,在没有官方数据进行交叉验证的情况下,长期依赖模型预测的风险在于,模型与实际通胀之间的偏差可能会在不被察觉的情况下累积。三、 替代数据的局限性:投资者需警惕两大陷阱在使用替代数据时,投资者需要注意两个关键问题:并非所有替代数据都可靠:许多替代数据同样面临官方数据存在的问题,如数据错误、收集率低、大幅修正等,甚至还存在代表性不足等特有缺陷。“软数据”可能过度悲观:在政府关门期间,消费者和企业信心等“软数据”(即情绪调查)往往会比反映实际经济活动的“硬数据”表现出更大幅度的放缓。在2013年和2019年的关门事件中都出现了这种情况,因此它们可能会夸大经济的疲软程度。四、 关门对经济的实际影响几何?根据高盛的测算,政府关门对经济的直接影响相对温和。对GDP的影响:此次关门涉及约62.7万名联邦雇员休假。预计每关门一周,将对第四季度实际GDP的季调后年化增长率产生约0.11个百分点的直接拖累。不过,一旦政府在第四季度结束前重开,这部分损失将在明年第一季度以同等规模反弹回来。对劳动力市场的影响:关门对就业数据的影响可能与直觉相反。在非农就业报告(机构调查)中,由于休假员工依法将在政府重开后获得补发薪水,他们很可能仍被视作“在职”,因此对就业人数影响甚微。而在失业率(家庭调查)方面,这些员工理论上应被计为“临时解雇”,这可能导致失业率上升0.1个百分点。但历史经验表明,在2013年和2018-2019年的关门期间,大部分休假员工被错误地归类为“在职但未上班”,因此实际影响可能更小。五、 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justify;\">将近两周前,英伟达宣布斥资50亿美元入股英特尔,联手开发PC与数据中心芯片。上周三,媒体称英特尔已接洽苹果寻求投资,作为其复苏计划的一部分,双方还讨论了加强合作的可能性。英特尔也已接洽其他公司,探讨可能的投资与合作关系。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">英特尔曾在笔记本电脑芯片市场占据主导地位,目前仍拥有较大市场份额。但英伟达引领的AI芯片市场快速发展让英特尔措手不及,英特尔正寻求通过代工业务和新的合作关系重新获得市场地位,积极寻求大客户。从这个角度看,赢得AMD这个客户对英特尔来说是大利好。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">分析师认为,大客户的加入将使英特尔代工业务能够更有信心地投资开发制造技术,并向其他芯片公司发出英特尔有能力处理代工业务的信号。目前英特尔的芯片工厂技术被认为不如台积电先进,但在特朗普政府推动美国芯片制造的政策背景下,美国大公司正将部分生产转向英特尔的国内代工厂。</p><h2 id=\"4423b77e\">竞争对手合作的重大意义</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">AMD选择与英特尔合作将具有重大象征意义,这表明AMD对将制造业务交给主要竞争对手的信心。两家公司在x86架构的PC和服务器芯片市场直接竞争,此次潜在合作将打破传统竞争格局。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">AMD在华芯片销售业务今年早些时候受到出口限制影响,而美国政府最近放松了相关出口限制。基于这一背景,AMD有理由与白宫保持良好关系,选择美国本土的英特尔作为代工合作伙伴符合这一策略考量。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">上周五的报道称,特朗普政府考虑实施一项新政策,要求芯片企业在美国的产量与其客户从海外进口的芯片数量保持1:1的比例,未能维持这一比例的企业将面临关税。这一政策凸显了特朗普政府刺激美国制造的主要方向。在这一背景下,AMD的代工选择显得合理。</p><p style=\"text-align: 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…GDPval是一个非常好的基准测试,具有极其重要的意义…</p><p>OpenAI构建并发布了GDPval,这是一个制作精良的基准测试,用于测试AI系统在现实世界经济中人们从事的各种任务上的表现。就评估而言,GDPval对广泛的现实世界经济影响的意义,可能相当于SWE-Bench对编程影响的意义——这是一件大事!</p><p><strong>它是什么:</strong>GDPval"衡量模型在直接来自现实世界的任务上的表现,这些任务涉及各行各业经验丰富专业人士的知识工作,为模型在经济价值任务上的表现提供更清晰的画面。"</p><p>该基准测试涵盖9个行业的44个职业,包括1,230个专业任务,"每个任务都由平均拥有超过14年经验的经验丰富专业人士精心制作和审核"。数据集"包括每个职业的30个经过全面审核的任务(完整集),以及我们开源黄金集中每个职业的5个任务"。</p><p>该基准测试的另一个优秀特性是它涉及多种回答格式,并试图处理现实世界固有的复杂性。他们写道:"GDPval的任务不是简单的文本提示。它们带有参考文件和上下文,预期的交付成果涵盖文档、幻灯片、图表、电子表格和多媒体。这种现实性使GDPval成为模型如何支持专业人士的更现实测试。"</p><p>"为了评估模型在GDPval任务上的表现,我们依靠专家'评分员'——一群来自数据集中代表的相同职业的经验专业人士。这些评分员盲目比较模型生成的交付成果与任务编写者产生的成果(不知道哪个是AI生成的,哪个是人类生成的),并提供批评和排名。评分员随后对人类和AI交付成果进行排名,并将每个AI交付成果分类为'更好'、'同样好'或'不如'彼此,"作者写道。</p><p><strong>结果:</strong>"我们发现今天最好的前沿模型已经接近行业专家产生的工作质量,"作者写道。Claude Opus 4.1排名第一,与人类工作相比的总体胜利或平局率为47.6%,其次是GPT-5-high的38.8%,以及o3 high的34.1%。</p><p><strong>更快更便宜:</strong>更重要的是,"我们发现前沿模型完成GDPval任务的速度比行业专家快约100倍,成本便宜约100倍。"</p><p><strong>GDPval包含哪些类型的工作?</strong></p><p>• <strong>房地产和租赁业:</strong>礼宾员;物业、房地产和社区协会经理;房地产销售代理;房地产经纪人;柜台和租赁店员。</p><p>• <strong>政府部门:</strong>娱乐工作者;合规官员;警察和侦探一线主管;行政服务经理;儿童、家庭和学校社会工作者。</p><p>•<strong> 制造业:</strong>机械工程师;工业工程师;采购员和采购代理;运输、接收和库存店员;生产和操作工人一线主管。</p><p>• <strong>专业、科学和技术服务:</strong>软件开发人员;律师;会计师和审计师;计算机和信息系统经理;项目管理专家。</p><p>• <strong>医疗保健和社会援助:</strong>注册护士;执业护士;医疗和健康服务经理;办公室和行政支持工人一线主管;医疗秘书和行政助理。</p><p>• <strong>金融和保险:</strong>客户服务代表;金融和投资分析师;财务经理;个人理财顾问;证券、商品和金融服务销售代理。</p><p>• <strong>零售贸易:</strong>药剂师;零售销售工人一线主管;总经理和运营经理;私人侦探和调查员。</p><p>• <strong>批发贸易:</strong>销售经理;订单店员;非零售销售工人一线主管;批发和制造销售代表,不包括技术和科学产品;批发和制造销售代表,技术和科学产品。</p><p>• 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