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美易添科技
02-22
$江淮汽车(600418)$
尊界一出,股价还得跌一半
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02-22
$小米集团-W(01810)$
一年内破100
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2024-12-10
$上证指数(000001.SH)$
起飞
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2024-11-09
$小米集团-W(01810)$
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2022-05-11
$每日优鲜(MF)$
特么跌到市值7000万,连A轮融资额都不够
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2022-03-19
$知乎(ZH)$
嘿嘿
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2022-03-05
$怪兽充电(EM)$
特么的全是水军发帖,这么明显都把人当傻子吗?
美易添科技
2021-10-08
这真轻松啊,小编
美团垄断,罚
美易添科技
2021-06-26
$每日优鲜(MF)$
要破发了吗?
美易添科技
2021-04-28
$逸仙电商(YSG)$
这股的机构解禁期快到了,现在是拉升待出货阶段了
美易添科技
2021-04-26
$美团-W(03690)$
靠明天暴跌
美易添科技
2021-04-23
$逸仙电商(YSG)$
马上要解禁了,机构开始拉升准备跑路了
美易添科技
2021-03-31
其它社区可不会依自己的喜好随便删帖禁言封号!!!垃圾知乎……
上市知乎,别想那只大象
美易添科技
2021-03-29
$知乎(ZH)$
知乎连自己破发的现实都不敢面对,妥妥的鸵鸟心态。
美易添科技
2020-11-04
能保住十分之一就不错了!
抱歉,原内容已删除
美易添科技
2020-09-24
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
市盈率1010倍,我的个天,这泡沫......
美易添科技
2020-08-21
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
别人贪婪我恐惧!!!
美易添科技
2020-08-20
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
此股被严重高估了,泡沫非常大,一家主要靠卖硬件汽车的公司市值居然达到了阿里巴巴的三分之二,毛利率才17%,1000亿美金都不值!!!
美易添科技
2020-04-07
$蛋壳公寓(DNK)$
这是什么鬼股票,才上市多久?就一点交易量都没有[开心]
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2020-03-26
$瑞幸咖啡(LK)$
瑞幸是一只好股票,符合即将到来的数字化浪潮!在线化、智能化程度的确甩了星巴克几条街!
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19:08","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"上市知乎,别想那只大象","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2123239880","media":"钛媒体","summary":"过去的这个周末,因为知乎上市这件事,财经科技媒体圈“热闹非凡”。似乎在他们的眼里,知乎不是在纽交所上市,更像是公司遇到了“黑天鹅”。\n深究起来,财经媒体们可比周源焦虑多了,有标题写大跌10%,这是文艺","content":"<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f62c4218be37c58a3880e87c2ecb43af\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"717\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>过去的这个周末,因为<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZH\">知乎</a>上市这件事,财经科技媒体圈“热闹非凡”。似乎在他们的眼里,知乎不是在纽交所上市,更像是公司遇到了“黑天鹅”。</p>\n<p>深究起来,财经媒体们可比周源焦虑多了,有标题写大跌10%,这是文艺青年周源遇见了商业天花板。还有人上价值,说知乎上市背后,其实是中国互联网社区25年血泪史。总之不管怎么样,社区的长期主义在股价面前一定是脆弱到不值一提的。</p>\n<p>但情况真是这样吗?可能并不。</p>\n<p>知乎的未来是什么样,取决于现在的每一步,但也和过去的积累息息相关,而上市这个动作所引发的舆论震颤,正如周源所言,不过是一个「阶段性的重要时刻」。</p>\n<h2>01</h2>\n<h2>中国社区的生存法则</h2>\n<p>在上市演讲上,周源聊到了知乎用户们曾讨论的一个问题:知乎要上市了,你有什么想对它说的?</p>\n<p>作为知乎的精神股东之一,我觉得此刻我确实可以说点什么。</p>\n<p>就从知乎被讨论的最多的地方开始聊起吧。</p>\n<p>知乎一直被诟病没有合适的变现模式,甚至被攻击整个团队做商业化不行,包括上市后,这也是每一家财经科技媒体必要聊的part。</p>\n<p>说多了,就跟知乎真的不行一样,但其实同样的问题,两年前他们安在B站上,7年前他们用在<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WB\">微博</a>上,其他还有快手、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DYIN\">抖音</a>、小红书们,似乎只要和社区沾边的产品,商业化都不怎么行,最后聊来聊去,这成了一个永恒的难题。</p>\n<p>发现没?现如今谈社区的商业化问题很容易谈成左右手互博,甚至一不小心还会上升至电车难题这样的伦理高度,但其实真没必要,社区产品自有社区产品的使命,商业化固然是重头戏,但内容才是一个社区安身立命之本。</p>\n<p>更何况,知乎的内容商业化也并没有那么差,电子书和值乎版块一直做得不错,就连并不被看好的广告,招股书上也显示获得了全年46%的增长,这一表现即使和整个广告市场大盘比起来,也不显得逊色。</p>\n<p>那么,围观者们在不满意什么呢?我想,这可能并不是纯粹的产品问题,也不全来自于内容社区的发展困境,在这个被Feeds、push、小红点等塑造的湍急的信息急流里,用户被包裹其中,裹挟着向前而去,以至于失去了全知视角,而习惯和盲从那些看上去对的声音。</p>\n<p>认知学家乔治·莱考夫曾经举过一个例子,如果别人对你说「别想大象」,那你就会不由自主地想到大象。而且,你越是告诉自己不去想大象,就越控制不住地想到任何和大象相关的事物。</p>\n<p>对于当下的内容社区来说,商业化就是那头大象,处于扩张期的产品,任何异动都是在为商业化做准备,产品功能更迭是为商业化,运营活动设计是为商业化,甚至CEO对外发言、接受采访都是在为商业化做铺垫。</p>\n<p>久而久之,一切产品问题、内容问题,都可以往商业化步子大了这个论调上靠。而在最近,强调互联网社区商业化不行,差不多成了政治正确,人们也总是习惯把内容社区和电商这种直接面向交易的行业做对比,但事实上,谁听谁被忽悠瘸。</p>\n<p>知乎现阶段正到了被人扯着耳朵喊大象的时刻,商业化被外界妖魔化成为达摩克里斯之剑,但其实剖开来看,知乎的平衡术已经排在互联网社区前列了。</p>\n<p>所以,对当下的知乎,我只想强调一点,既然选择做内容社区,那就别一直想那只大象。</p>\n<h2>02</h2>\n<h2>知乎的圆点</h2>\n<p>回到上市演讲。</p>\n<p>在上市演讲上,周源聊的不多,开篇有点感性,但到结尾时,朴实、谨慎,又有那么一点谦虚。</p>\n<p>尤其在最后定义知乎时,周源用了一个短句「服务创作者」。</p>\n<p>整句话是这样的:知乎将锚定服务创作者这个圆点,向内优化服务,向外拓展突围。</p>\n<p>联系上下文语境的话,可能会对此有更深的感知,知乎十年上市,终于到了一边面对创作者与用户需求,一边接受资本市场检阅的时候。</p>\n<p>这对知乎来说无疑是一个新的历史起点,但对用户来说,改变并不明显,至少在此刻,在当下,是没有什么大的涟漪的,甚至比起股价跌宕,知乎用户们更关心哥斯拉和金刚谁更厉害,以及苏伊士运河堵船事故如何才能最大程度减少损失。</p>\n<p>这看似有点无情,但恰恰符合知乎一贯的传统,我当然更关心与我利益相关的问题,毕竟知乎上市那100股也只发给知乎大V,而作为普通用户,我的问题能得到回答,我的好奇心可以被满足,这就够了。</p>\n<p>所以,从这个角度出发,那些拿知乎上市佐证中国互联网内容社区之路艰难的论断,差不多可以消停了,只要有人发问,知乎就有生存空间,而有生存空间,短期的冲突就不会让人长久焦虑。</p>\n<p>并且,问答社区与一般的内容社区不同,从用户关系建立、延展,到用户关系的突破与稳定,这一系列动作间,有一个流畅的路径。</p>\n<p>举个例子,如果说B站、小红书等产品是话题作文,那么知乎这种问答社区就是命题作文,前者是主题制度,用户要自己筛选内容进而发布,但知乎的标题是限定的,背景也是限定的,这就同时解决了内容生产和内容消费的问题。在内容生产中,由用户先行提问,知乎答主再根据命题写回答、生产内容,当获得越多的赞同后,知乎答主就会越加积极地生产内容。</p>\n<p>而且更有意思的一点是,内容创作者在其他社区可能会因为对创作选题的误判,而丧失自然流量,但在知乎,有能力的、且认真回答问题的宝藏答主,基本是不会被淹没的,问进制下,好回答会和好问题一起,共同走向高赞。</p>\n<p>之前我们就曾提到过,知乎内容平均流通时长可以达到8个月,问题的平均流通时间是18个月,其中,优质的内容会在流通时间内被反复激活,长尾内容则会持续流通。</p>\n<p>所以,哪怕像我这样的非大V答主,也会因为单个高赞问题,而持续不断地获得曝光。</p>\n<p>本质上,问答社区的精髓在于一种情报和帮助,它能够解决提问者非常具象化的问题。而且,越是具体、深度的问答,价值就越高,往更纵深处看的话,问题社区的终局可能并不仅仅是走向知识付费,而是成为虚拟空间里的图书馆,数字版的十万个为什么。</p>\n<p>沿着这个角度出发,就可以理解周源在上市演讲中,为什么把「服务创作者」定位为知乎的圆点。</p>\n<p>因为只有这样,知乎才不会因为社区产品的自然老化而走向衰落,而是能始终保持活力,哪怕做不到时刻占据用户的日活,也能稳定住月活。</p>\n<h2>03</h2>\n<h2>从0到1再到IPO</h2>\n<p>在知乎十周年的演讲中,周源曾表示:「处于高速发展期的互联网企业,容易出现‘三化’风险——对环境感知的钝化、企业机体的老化和创新能力的弱化。但面对问题,应该做的不是解释,只有解决。」</p>\n<p>说出这段话的周源,其实很不像媒体描述中的文艺青年和理想主义者,程序员的极客思维依然存在于他身上。</p>\n<p>这种理念与极客吧的slogan一样有意思,所谓「开源精神永不死,没有信息就没有未来」,放到内容社区身上亦是如此。</p>\n<p>其实在很多年前,周源就强调过「社区是特殊的数字化产品,有自己的生长节奏」,这也是知乎能区别于得到一类的知识付费产品的理由。相比之下,周源并不像一个纯粹的创业者,严格来说,他更像一个媒体属性的技术工作者,和一个有点理想主义的内容创作者。</p>\n<p>我还记得他曾经写过的一篇回答,主题是科技与社会,讨论的核心是,科学技术和科技公司的发展,与社会产生了哪些矛盾?以及未来将如何解决?</p>\n<p>这篇回答,重点分享了他对<a 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