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2021-01-11

$蔚来(NIO)$[笑哭] 哈哈

2020-08-27

$蔚来(NIO)$赶紧跌20%

2020-08-31

$蔚来(NIO)$垃圾股就是这样，涨两天跌二周

2024-12-19

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 回调一下，一群傻瓜，这辈子吃不上三个菜

2020-06-09

$卡隆石油(CPE)$哈哈！不要慌！先发个帖！

2020-08-27

$蔚来(NIO)$最想看到的就是你们躺在山顶上被套[龇牙]

2024-12-17

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 还得翻几倍，继续持有

2021-10-30

$特斯拉(TSLA)$满仓干

2020-08-27

$蔚来(NIO)$跌了，做空及时，昨天比比的呢！还上30上50的，跌回6元吧

2021-01-30

$AMC院线(AMC)$反正都是跌，就是不卖，下周再说

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CEO余承东也曾发表过类似言论。在2022年粤港澳车展上，余承东直言：“纯燃油车时代会很快结束，现在买燃油车，无异于智能手机时代买功能机。”争论背后，全球新能源汽车销量的不断走高是不争的事实。据央视新闻，2022世界新能源汽车大会与会专家表示，目前全球新能源汽车累计销量已突破2000万辆；2022年上半年，全球新能源汽车销量超过422万辆，同比增长66.38%，再创新高。另据特斯拉官方数据，今年上半年，其全球总交付量为56.4万辆，约占全球新能源汽车销量的13.4%。按照特斯拉规划的“多年内实现年均交付量50%增长”目标，特斯拉2022年交付量有望突破140万辆。摩根士丹利分析师Adam Jonas预测，2022财年，特斯拉新车交付量将达146万辆，同比增长56%。图片来源：视觉中国按照规划，到2030年，特斯拉每年销售目标为2000万辆。为此，特斯拉在提高现有工厂产能的同时，还计划继续在全球范围内建设工厂。“今年晚些时候，（我们）将公布公司最新一座工厂的选址结果。”马斯克表示，未来，特斯拉预计会在全球建设10~12家超级工厂，每座工厂规划年产能预计在150万~200万辆之间，10年后特斯拉有信心实现超过1亿辆的交付量。有观点认为，特斯拉良好的市场表现与产能布局，或许给予了马斯克频频向燃油车“开炮”的底气与信心。但需要注意的是，今年9月，马斯克在挪威召开的一场能源大会上曾发表与上述观点“截然不同”的言论。彼时，马斯克曾称，人类“在短期内”必须依赖石油和天然气，否则“文明将会崩溃”。此外，马斯克表示，向可持续能源过渡需要几十年才能完成，并强调自己不赞同将石油和天然气妖魔化，“现在，我们需要更多石油和天然气，而不是相反。但同时要快速迈向可持续的能源经济。”图片来源：视觉中国事实上，爱立“flag”的马斯克曾多次遭遇“打脸”时刻。此前，马斯克也是通过个人社交媒体发文称，考虑以420美元每股的价格对特斯拉进行私有化，并称“资金已到位”。但随后事实表明，特斯拉的私有化计划并不可行，并且资金也并未像马斯克所说的“已经到位”。随后，在一片质疑声中，马斯克宣布取消特斯拉私有化计划，并付出了2000万美元的民事罚款作为代价。2017年6月，马斯克曾表示，其旗下“无聊公司”（the boring 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21:24","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"别被特斯拉财报骗了，新能源车的下半年未必一帆风顺","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1107960522","media":"格隆汇","summary":"特斯拉乃至中国的新势力们，还会像之前那么顺利吗？","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>翘首以盼的特斯拉财报，终于来到眼前。</p><p>对于这份财报，有些已经料到，比如交付量下滑，营收下滑，毛利率下滑，结束了好多个季度的单边上涨态势，特别是Q2的交付量早于财报前就已经公布，研究员大致算一下，便可窥见全貌；有些没有料到，净利润居然还能超出预期，同比翻了近一倍。</p><p>客观地说，这是一份平稳的财报，好坏对冲后，市场大致也能够接受。</p><p>但是，在目前仍然错综复杂的宏观经济形势下，特斯拉乃至中国的新势力们，还会像之前那么顺利吗？</p><p><b>01喜忧参半</b></p><p>首先说一下这个财报的几个关键点。</p><p>如市场最为关注的交付量下滑，这对于长时间习惯了增长模式的特斯拉投资者，是不太容易接受的事实。不过，理性地看，交付量下滑主要是上海疫情的影响，这个问题几乎所有在中国做生产的汽车厂商都一样，而且特斯拉股价下跌了如此之多，一定程度上也反映了这个结果。</p><p>所以，Q2交付量这个问题其实不用过于敏感，疫情解封后的6月，特斯拉已经出现了强势反弹。真正存在不确定性的，是下半年或者更长的时间。按照特斯拉自己的说法，手头的订单还很多，基本不用担心生意，而更应该担忧自己能不能造出车来及时交付，高管在电话会议上也重申了50%的年增长率，尽管明白当中有困难。另外，马斯克的经营能力，以及特斯拉的执行力也是值得称道的，典型的证据就是裁员果断、对供应链以及成本的控制，使得特斯拉在Q2如此困难的宏观环境下，依然能够取得超预期的利润。</p><p><b>这可以算是喜的一面。</b></p><p>但是，从欧美高通胀甚至可能出现经济危机的角度出发，特斯拉的订单在未来1-2年内还能够维持这么高，就得打上一个问号了，如果真的发生经济危机，订单量必定会有所收缩，营收端的压力就会浮现，这必然会给公司的增长前景蒙上阴影。</p><p><b>这是忧的一面。</b></p><p>从产能端，特斯拉4家超级工厂的总产能在200万左右，平均每个50万辆，现在又传出上海工厂扩建到75万辆，满打满算也就是215万辆，按照去年93万的出厂量，未来要实现每年50%的增长，至少在产能端是具备能力的，当然还要看柏林和奥斯汀工厂的爬坡情况。</p><p>而另外两个较为受关注的盈利点——<b>FSD和新车型</b>，今年估计都没有什么值得期待的地方。</p><p>关于FSD，马斯克食言已经很多次，市场基本也麻木了，在个人采访中，马斯克也多次承认，很多关注FSD的“曙光”最后都被证明是假的，要真正解决FSD所面临的问题，其实就是解决真实世界的人工智能问题。说得更直白一点，是要真正实现AI代替人脑，这个事，至少现在看来还没有谁敢拍胸口，说自己能够做到的。其实，FSD这种事是非常困难的，试想一下，在一个高速行驶的车里自动驾驶，出事就是人命观天，马虎不得。</p><p>所以，估值体系里如果过于乐观将FSD纳入，那就很可能是估值泡沫。</p><p>至于新车型，今年铁定没戏，电话会议上说的，9月份能够看到机器人，但新车型，例如皮卡，得明年才能看到。实际上，即使推出新车型，我也很怀疑特斯拉的产能能否应付得了，尤其是Model 3和Model Y都这么多未完成的订单，除非新建工厂，否则基本不可能应付得来，即使真的量产，也只是小规模。</p><p>特斯拉高管对于新建工厂计划的回应不多，目前的工作重点还在于两家新工厂的产能爬坡，导致了市场对于特斯拉未来的增长预期有所弱化，这也是财报公布后股价短暂拉升又迅速回落的原因，很明显，市场正在重新给特斯拉估值。</p><p><b>从基本面上看，特斯拉没有太大问题，现在的压制因素主要来自宏观经济，宏观层面没有触底复苏，特斯拉的股价就缺乏上涨动力，想要回到年初的高峰位置，更加是困难重重。</b></p><p>今年下半年，大概率还是在过去一个多月的区间里磨来磨去，直到全球经济有转机。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/988425ec83176d94f2f8428576e8e8d0\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p><b>02国内新势力几何？</b></p><p>说到特斯拉，就不得不提国内的新能源车企。</p><p><b>现在大家都还沉浸在6月份强劲的销量数据上，似乎一切都没什么好担心的，但是，昨天一个新势力的调研报告出炉，当中提到下半年会降价促销，以完成全年的销售任务。</b></p><p>这个看似不大不小的动作，其实蕴含的信息量非常巨大。电动车集体提价还是几个月的事，这么快就反转，可以感受得到车企所面临的销售压力，终极问题就在于，到底新能源汽车是不是如我们所见的乐观？</p><p>当然，这家新势力的降价促销实属无奈之举，因为今年时间过半，但销售任务只完成了1/3，同时该车企还要面对三大新势力亏损最大这个事实，如果要完成全年任务，等于说下半年的销量要是上半年的2倍，这个挑战其实是很大的，虽然说下半年的车市才是销售旺季，但鉴于现在宏观环境和居民消费力，汽车这种大宗消费品能否继续维持高增，就存在很多不确定性。同时，很多车企都不断推出新车去抢占新能源市场，虽然新势力们还头顶光环，但冷暖只有它们自己才知道。</p><p>回看5、6月份的电动车为何销售强劲回升，其实原因只有一个，<b>政策刺激</b>。如果政策继续加码，那下半年新能源汽车的销售不会有太大问题，不过，从昨天总理的表态来看，下半年的经济刺激政策即使有，也不会过猛。换句话说，国家对于电动车的刺激，能做到现在这个份上，基本也已经尽力了的，再希望国家拿钱出来就不现实了。</p><p>当然，看多者还有一个信仰，那就是<b>抢食燃油车的蛋糕</b>。</p><p>根据中国汽车工业协会披露的数据，今年上半年燃油车的总体销量（乘用车和商用车）按年下跌19.1%。更重要的是，燃油车作为旧时代的代表，几乎没有还手之力，只能眼睁睁看着地盘被蚕食。如果按照这个剧本演下去，似乎新能源汽车也没有值得担心的，但正如前文所言，燃油车企的变量在于，它们也在迫不及待地挤进新能源汽车赛道，这必然会加剧市场竞争，赛道本身有增长没错，但每家的份额能不能增长就不一定了。</p><p>对于车企而言，前端有宏观经济、居民消费的压力，又有锂矿造成的成本压力，对于下半年，不宜太乐观。现在，整个港A股新能源汽车板块都处于回调之中，新势力们的股价在6月末触顶之后，已经跌了大半个月，反映的正是这样一种预期。</p><p>今年新能源汽车的整体销量，市场上的预期大概是550万辆，现在的股价，基本也反映了这种预期，除非政策上再有动作支持，否则，新势力们的上涨动力会很弱，顶多就是来回波动一下。</p><p><b>03结语</b></p><p>眼下的市场，确实缺乏新的主线。</p><p><b>在宏观经济未有周期性向上之时，走势都会反复震荡，对于投资者而言，这会是相当磨人的一个时期，虽然中间会有反弹，但到一定程度，常常戛然而止，踏空、被套就会经常发生。</b></p><p>作为极少数拥有广阔增长空间的行业，新能源汽车一直受到资金追捧，但是资金过度涌入，又往往容易推高估值，造成阶段性泡沫，上涨阶段获利容易，但回调阶段又很容易套人。如果是长线资金，在低位进入，可以无视股价波动，但是大部分投资者，尤其是散户，是不可能做到的。</p><p>新能源汽车板块何时再进入上涨阶段，今年或者都不容易看到了。因为要再来一次6月份的上涨，要么像4月份那样，崩一次，要么经济重新进入上涨周期，再有，就是成本端出现大幅下滑，例如锂矿价格大幅回落，而这几个因素，出现的可能性都不大。</p><p>新能源汽车的财报，仍然耀眼，但别被财报骗了，下半年的新能源汽车的股价，还是谨慎为好。</p></body></html>","source":"gelonghui_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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Research（中文译为美奇金投资）在今年10月份出具的一份做空报告。</p><p>在这份长达28页的报告中，美奇金投资根据公开资料，细数FF多条罪状。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/980aa851a7be00bd2177d4798db45626\" tg-width=\"550\" tg-height=\"304\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>归结起来有三点：</p><p>第一，没有量产车的能力。</p><p>第二，财务状况堪忧，融资补空没有尽头。</p><p>第三，老贾这人靠不住。</p><p>首先，FF91的交付时间已跳票数年，此前承诺在中国和美国五个地点建立6所工厂，但是至今这份计划并没有落实。</p><p>而且FF承诺在7个月内重新启动并开始生产的美国汉福德工厂也没有什么实质性的进展。</p><p>财务上，上市融了10亿，却仍然是杯水车薪。美奇金投资在报告中表示，如果FF来想要实现2024年的财务目标，还需要筹集14亿美元才可能实现。</p><p>以FF的业务进展和老贾的信誉，融钱可能会越来越难。</p><p>FF最新股价报收4.22美元，大跌7.46%，总市值仅剩13.69亿美元，较上市之初的约45亿美元市值已蒸发了近70%，超31亿美元（约合人民币约200亿元）。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a40a946179e35acf47f7780936f8c32b\" tg-width=\"840\" tg-height=\"470\" 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