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找到一条长雪道
11-13
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
几个月前,我已经预判了理想股价的今天!作为曾经的增程王,理想汽车如今表现令人大失所望!如今,理想该做的恐怕不仅仅是裁员和调整组织机构这么简单了!否则第三/四季度,财务报表必定会恶化甚至盈转亏,到时候恐怕就回天乏术了😰😰 为了理想好,斗胆提出以下措施: 1、现在首先要做的是李想先介入增持,恢复市场信心! 2、尽快完成增程L9/8/7/6的换代升级,800V+大电池+全系标配冰彩沙,不能再搞名目繁多的选配了。内饰也急需新的设计语言,套娃已经不吃香了。 3、建议砍掉或者收缩纯电车型(mega,i8,i6,听说还有i9),车型太多了,自己打自己!理想在纯电领域没有影响力,每发布一款股价下一个台阶,明摆着市场不买单!不要执迷不悟,回归到自己的优势领域——『增程』,并保持住产品和价格优势。 4、内部抓抓贪腐!好几年了,手握千亿巨资,却没搞出什么科技突破!友商在车身、底盘、安全、电池、智驾芯片等诸多方面都有很多突破,唯有理想没看到拿出靠谱的造车核心科技,不能再拿着AI当挡箭牌,拿大桌板、小桌板当研发成果了。不能再把车主当猴耍了…… 有更好的策略,欢迎评论区交流。
找到一条长雪道
11-01
完了……这不但得额外花个几十亿,同时也大量失去潜在客户信心[心碎]
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找到一条长雪道
10-27
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
理想汽车股价最近的走势真的太差了,可以说:它一碰【纯电】股价就跳水、打折……从去年的mega发布(狂跌62%),到今年的i8和i6都无一例外! 求求了,理想汽车能不能好好全心搞增程就好!不要再去搞自己不擅长、没有积累、没有优势且消费者也不认可的领域了🤐🚬
找到一条长雪道
08-05
理想销量暴跌 [捂脸] [捂脸] [捂脸]
找到一条长雪道
08-01
$理想汽车(LI)$
完了,7月交付暴跌。新车发行不利,又惹了一个大货车公司……完犊子了。赶紧跑[流泪]
找到一条长雪道
07-23
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
不好好搞真诚,搞啥纯电?搞纯电就没有自己的特色和优势了……迟早💊
找到一条长雪道
04-24
$理想汽车(LI)$
理想汽车只要一发布新的纯电车型,股价就会跌。建议大家转手有空👍 原因很简单:增程是可以买理想。纯电为啥要买理想?
找到一条长雪道
02-28
理想一发纯电,股价就跌🥺🤕 一家做增程的车厂为啥非得做纯电呀。躺着增程挣钱不好吗😰
找到一条长雪道
02-28
理想一发布纯电,股价就跌🥺🤕 大家还记得去年的mega大败吧[捂脸] 一家做增程的车厂,为啥非得做纯电呀,躺着挣钱不好吗😰
找到一条长雪道
2024-09-23
这次乐道L60产品定义做得好,产品力在20这个价位段来看的确非常有吸引力!值得期待👍
@新能源Bot:乐道L60 新车上市72小时一线销售快报
找到一条长雪道
2024-09-06
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
由于没有核心技术研发和积累,号称的冰箱彩电沙发大家都非常轻易复制走了,上有问界等各界,下有零跑深蓝等家用品牌,理想汽车高端品牌是真竖不起来,越卖越便宜,勉强做到增收不增利。 这基本上是进入负循环,股价漫漫下跌,开始价值回归。这次又被华旗下调评级,真是祸不单行😵💫😵💫
找到一条长雪道
2024-07-01
蔚来牛逼!!30+W的平均售价,做出了2W+的月交付!!非常了不起!产品力👍👍
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找到一条长雪道
2024-05-17
距离理想扬言今年将交付80万部车,而后3月1日发布纯电mpv开始,股价腰斩50%😡😡😡 这就是欺诈。活该被集体诉讼
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找到一条长雪道
2024-05-16
$理想汽车(LI)$
理想汽车大幅裁员!危险信号!! 理想汽车开始裁员,大约涉及5600人!裁员较多的部门是招聘部、销售服务运营部和智能驾驶部门等。据21世纪经济报道:五一假期之后理想内部正在进行新一轮全公司的大裁员,整体裁员比例超过18%!!2023 年财报显示:理想汽车近3.16万人,按照18%比例来计算,这轮裁员涉及超过5600人!基本上5人走1人! 曾经的增程之王,号称手握大额现金,如今由于没有技术沉淀,首款重磅纯电车型一上市就惨遭滑铁卢,仅仅上市一个多月基本淡出公众视野(在理想门店,mega也基本被撤下来,没有展车)。 同时,在美股市场:理想汽车一个多月来大跌约50%,近乎腰斩!据悉,美股有大量投资者包括机构投资者正在以【理想汽车公开发布误导信息和虚假信息】为由准备将理想汽车述诸法律! 这是一部重磅车型的失败,还是理想汽车满盘皆输的开始?让我们拭目以待。
找到一条长雪道
2024-04-24
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
这跌下去没底了,赶紧跑😭
找到一条长雪道
2024-03-21
$理想汽车(LI)$
怒了😡 🔨……几周前,李想还在财报会上宣称2024年理想要卖80万台车,这不到一个月,就怂了? 这是欺诈啊!!!股价跌成狗了[心碎] [心碎] 赶紧跑啊家人们[晕]
找到一条长雪道
2024-03-21
妈的!🔨财报会才说了要卖80万!这不到一个月就怂了? 这是欺诈啊!!!
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找到一条长雪道
2024-03-18
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
完了完了,赶紧跑…… 2024年的年度重磅新车mega目前销量滑铁卢,而且身边了解一下:基本口碑都很差。不要说mega啥月销破万或者8000了,以后常态化销售一个月能有2000就不得了了。 更可怕的是,受到mega负面影响,L系近期销售也下滑,年度啥80万的别想了。一旦停止增长,这股价跌下去就没底了。。。
找到一条长雪道
2024-03-18
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
最新速递:据知名媒体人爆料【理想年度最重磅新车mega新车上市的360小时大定仅4000部】。如果我们扣去发布会后72小时的3200订单,也就是说那之后的12天时间订单仅仅新增800台……凉了,彻底凉了 这样子,理想之前吹的年销售80万辆车,估计很悬!理想股价今天继续被锤,快破了前期低点😰😰
找到一条长雪道
2024-03-05
$理想汽车-W(02015)$
新车么噶接近60万落地价,但配置很没诚意:1.没有魔术大空间 2.没有后轮转向 3.没有电吸门 4.没有后车身一体压铸(涉及到安全问题) 5. 跟L987一样老旧的内饰,没有新鲜感 6.小电视(竞品二十几寸大电视) 7.没有ADB像素大灯 8.仅18寸的小车轮,很不协调 9.造型太怪,头部丑,尾部也很瘆人(很多不佳联想) 10.没有uwb钥匙,没有集成隐藏式ETC 11.重点:所谓5C充电桩仅300多根,只在高速上 12.价格太贵,比竞品小鹏X9贵20万……不胜枚举 新车型发布会之后的首次72小时销量快报仅3000台,与之前的5万/3万等预测和言论相距甚远
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