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2025-08-08

$理想汽车(LI)$ 看看谁在吹牛！

2025-10-31

$理想汽车(LI)$ 负责任的车企，挨打要立正，总比背后那些龌蹉的友商，只会发小作文

2025-10-28

$理想汽车-W(02015)$ 祝背后作恶的那帮车企早日消失

2023-11-21

$理想汽车-W(02015)$ 11月冲击4.5万辆没啥问题了！

2023-09-25

$理想汽车(LI)$ 被错杀了，没关系，怎么下去就怎么上来！

2023-10-13

$理想汽车-W(02015)$ 天天被对标，销量稳如山，一个能打的没有。

2024-03-19

$理想汽车-W(02015)$ 无底线友商+无良媒体拼命抹黑，只是一时调整，放到长期来看，无论是产品力，还是产品矩阵，在国产依然没有对手。黑子滚开！

2024-12-04

$理想汽车(LI)$ 真是无脑跌，一个月销量又不代表什么

2023-08-11

$理想汽车(LI)$ 已经是明牌了！

2025-08-22

$理想汽车-W(02015)$ 蔚🐶真是找骂，蔚来盈利猴年马月，还有脸跑到这里找骂

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