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2021-06-27

Do people actually use Apple TV?

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2021-05-07

$XIAOMI-W(01810)$once the ban is officially thrown out of court, xiaomi will go back to its all time high and above!

2021-06-04

LOL why so triggered? Everyone bashing the article for just pointing out facts. 🤷 Don't fall in love with a stock.

AMC shares tanked another 5% in premarket trading<blockquote>AMC 股价在盘前交易中又下跌 5%</blockquote>

2021-04-27

So late into the e-commerce market? Can they really be a profitable company?

GameStop raises $551 mln to accelerate e-commerce push, shares jump<blockquote>游戏驿站筹集 5.51 亿美元加速电子商务发展，股价飙升</blockquote>

2021-08-15

From the estimate pe or ps ratio isnt it expensive?

How to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote>

2021-08-02

I mean, how is he even related to this case? Does his opinion even matter here? Hahaha

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2021-07-07

Is that really a surge?

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2021-05-04

Like I always say, semiconductor is here to stay for at least a decade or two.

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2021-06-30

Is it really that scalable?

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2021-06-26

Which faang Will you buy or not buy? I currently have Appl.

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But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.So where does Nio $$","content":"<p>Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来可能是一家相对较小的公司。但投资者看好这家中国电动汽车制造商的前景。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459f713c5dfcf08752165d643a5f1463\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>A Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>上海市区的一家蔚来商店。（盖蒂图片社）</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.</p><p><blockquote>中国电动汽车制造商蔚来在美国不销售汽车，市值为 602 亿美元。按照这个标准，它比成立于1903年的福特汽车公司还要大。</blockquote></p><p> That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.</p><p><blockquote>作为投资者，这对您来说可能有意义——毕竟，蔚来是一家只销售电动汽车的创新型公司。福特是一家传统汽车制造商，正在努力迎头赶上，并最终全面过渡到电动汽车。蔚来的股价在过去一年上涨了两倍多，而福特的股价在过去十年暴跌后几乎翻了一番。</blockquote></p><p> So where does Nio <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(NIO)$</a>, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.</p><p><blockquote>那么蔚来在哪里<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(蔚来)$</a>周三股市收盘后公布了第二季度业绩，符合投资论点吗？下面的屏幕显示了其股票估值与汽车产量的比较，以及该估值与 2025 年的预计收益有何关系。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Doubling car production</b></p><p><blockquote><b>汽车产量翻倍</b></blockquote></p><p> For the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度，蔚来交付了21,896辆汽车，同比增长112%。增长令人印象深刻，但销售的车辆总数仍然相对较少。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:</p><p><blockquote>以下是按市值计算的 10 家最大汽车制造商，以及它们第二季度的销量或交付量（如果两者都有报告，以较高者为准）以及表格下方的附加颜色：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9e9aed76c94544dbe44cde9f7c8bebc\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"761\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> You can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc.&nbsp;and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table>你可以看到，这些估值是关于未来的，届时电动汽车领域的创新者——这份名单上的特斯拉和蔚来——可能（也可能不会）变得与传统企业一样大。</blockquote></p><p> For now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine&nbsp;vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.</p><p><blockquote>目前，福特生产的主要是内燃机汽车，几乎是蔚来生产电动汽车的 35 倍。</blockquote></p><p> One thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.</p><p><blockquote>需要注意的一件事是，传统汽车制造商并非都以相同的方式报告其销量。大多数不会突破电动汽车销售。</blockquote></p><p> Among those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:</p><p><blockquote>其中，定义各不相同。例如，丰田汽车公司（7203.TO）报告称，第二季度“电动汽车”销量占汽车总销量的26.6%。但该类别包括：</blockquote></p><p> For Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.</p><p><blockquote>对于丰田来说，纯电动汽车仅占第二季度销量的0.2%，而它们占蔚来和特斯拉销量的100%。丰田的插电式混合动力汽车销量占总销量的1.4%。</blockquote></p><p> Volkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.</p><p><blockquote>大众汽车公司报告称，电动汽车销量包括插电混合动力汽车（占第二季度销量的 6.7%）和纯电动汽车（占总销量的 4.4%）。这些数字令人印象深刻：合计11.1%。</blockquote></p><p> For Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.</p><p><blockquote>对于 Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft（更广为人知的名称是 BWM Group）来说，第二季度电动汽车交付明细尚未公布，但 2021 年上半年，交付了 153,243 辆全电动或插电式混合动力汽车，占总交付量的 11.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to earnings estimates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值与盈利预测</b></blockquote></p><p> For companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.</p><p><blockquote>对于处于早期阶段的公司来说，市盈率的比较可能意义不大。这些公司关注的是增长而不是利润。亚马逊公司就是一个例子。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(亚马逊)$</a>几十年来，该公司一直以高市盈率为代价，努力扩展到新的业务领域。</blockquote></p><p> A high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.</p><p><blockquote>高市盈率可以反映投资者对创新的热情，就电动汽车而言，也可以反映行业转型的政治共识。因此，蔚来和特斯拉的市盈率远高于传统汽车制造商。</blockquote></p><p> Then again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.</p><p><blockquote>话又说回来，非常低的市盈率可能表明投资者对老牌制造商过于蔑视，因为他们利用传统汽车持续大量销售的现金流来资助电动汽车的开发。机会可能会被强调。</blockquote></p><p> Normally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.</p><p><blockquote>通常，远期市盈率的计算方法是将股价除以 12 个月每股收益的滚动共识估计。这并不适用于此处列出的所有公司，因此我们使用 2022 年净利润的共识估计。</blockquote></p><p> First, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:</p><p><blockquote>首先，以下是基于当前市值和 FactSet 调查的分析师对 2022 年普遍预期的市盈率。该表包括到 2025 年的年度预测，以及基于当前市值和 2025 年预测的市盈率：</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459439c822252d09b3dfb73cc5d51211\" tg-width=\"1058\" tg-height=\"743\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> Nio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&amp;P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来预计将于 2023 年实现盈利。展望2024年，其远期市盈率低于特斯拉。为了正确看待未来的市盈率估值，标普500指数的交易加权为 2022 年每股收益共识预期的 20.5 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to sales</b></p><p><blockquote><b>销售额估值</b></blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> Forward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table>对于利润或净亏损较低的早期公司来说，远期销售价格估算可能更有用。话又说回来，同样的扭曲也适用：投资者现在喜欢纯粹的电动汽车制造商，当你考虑到蔚来的股价在过去一年里上涨了两倍多，而特斯拉的股价上涨了150%时，他们可能会为它们支付过高的价格。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:</p><p><blockquote>以下是一组类似的驱动市销率的数据，再次使用当前市值（在本文顶部的第一个表格中）和以百万美元为单位的全年共识估计值：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8c0b7d002e07914e42fcdf0e624b25c\" tg-width=\"1051\" tg-height=\"668\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> For reference, the S&amp;P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.</p><p><blockquote>作为参考，标普500的交易价格是其 2022 年销量普遍预期的 2.7 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> <b>Analysts' opinions</b></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table><b>分析师意见</b></blockquote></p><p> Here's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. For companies with primary listings outside the U.S., the local tickers are used. All share prices and targets are in local currencies:</p><p><blockquote>以下是 FactSet 调查的分析师对 10 家汽车制造商的意见摘要。对于主要在美国境外上市的公司，使用当地股票代码。所有股价和目标均以当地货币计算：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/32f38063eabf2e93f73561a0454a44ac\" tg-width=\"1059\" tg-height=\"639\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>How to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nHow to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">MarkeWatch</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-15 09:01</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来可能是一家相对较小的公司。但投资者看好这家中国电动汽车制造商的前景。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459f713c5dfcf08752165d643a5f1463\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>A Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>上海市区的一家蔚来商店。（盖蒂图片社）</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.</p><p><blockquote>中国电动汽车制造商蔚来在美国不销售汽车，市值为 602 亿美元。按照这个标准，它比成立于1903年的福特汽车公司还要大。</blockquote></p><p> That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.</p><p><blockquote>作为投资者，这对您来说可能有意义——毕竟，蔚来是一家只销售电动汽车的创新型公司。福特是一家传统汽车制造商，正在努力迎头赶上，并最终全面过渡到电动汽车。蔚来的股价在过去一年上涨了两倍多，而福特的股价在过去十年暴跌后几乎翻了一番。</blockquote></p><p> So where does Nio <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(NIO)$</a>, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.</p><p><blockquote>那么蔚来在哪里<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(蔚来)$</a>周三股市收盘后公布了第二季度业绩，符合投资论点吗？下面的屏幕显示了其股票估值与汽车产量的比较，以及该估值与 2025 年的预计收益有何关系。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Doubling car production</b></p><p><blockquote><b>汽车产量翻倍</b></blockquote></p><p> For the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度，蔚来交付了21,896辆汽车，同比增长112%。增长令人印象深刻，但销售的车辆总数仍然相对较少。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:</p><p><blockquote>以下是按市值计算的 10 家最大汽车制造商，以及它们第二季度的销量或交付量（如果两者都有报告，以较高者为准）以及表格下方的附加颜色：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9e9aed76c94544dbe44cde9f7c8bebc\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"761\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> You can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc.&nbsp;and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table>你可以看到，这些估值是关于未来的，届时电动汽车领域的创新者——这份名单上的特斯拉和蔚来——可能（也可能不会）变得与传统企业一样大。</blockquote></p><p> For now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine&nbsp;vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.</p><p><blockquote>目前，福特生产的主要是内燃机汽车，几乎是蔚来生产电动汽车的 35 倍。</blockquote></p><p> One thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.</p><p><blockquote>需要注意的一件事是，传统汽车制造商并非都以相同的方式报告其销量。大多数不会突破电动汽车销售。</blockquote></p><p> Among those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:</p><p><blockquote>其中，定义各不相同。例如，丰田汽车公司（7203.TO）报告称，第二季度“电动汽车”销量占汽车总销量的26.6%。但该类别包括：</blockquote></p><p> For Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.</p><p><blockquote>对于丰田来说，纯电动汽车仅占第二季度销量的0.2%，而它们占蔚来和特斯拉销量的100%。丰田的插电式混合动力汽车销量占总销量的1.4%。</blockquote></p><p> Volkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.</p><p><blockquote>大众汽车公司报告称，电动汽车销量包括插电混合动力汽车（占第二季度销量的 6.7%）和纯电动汽车（占总销量的 4.4%）。这些数字令人印象深刻：合计11.1%。</blockquote></p><p> For Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.</p><p><blockquote>对于 Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft（更广为人知的名称是 BWM Group）来说，第二季度电动汽车交付明细尚未公布，但 2021 年上半年，交付了 153,243 辆全电动或插电式混合动力汽车，占总交付量的 11.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to earnings estimates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值与盈利预测</b></blockquote></p><p> For companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.</p><p><blockquote>对于处于早期阶段的公司来说，市盈率的比较可能意义不大。这些公司关注的是增长而不是利润。亚马逊公司就是一个例子。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(亚马逊)$</a>几十年来，该公司一直以高市盈率为代价，努力扩展到新的业务领域。</blockquote></p><p> A high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.</p><p><blockquote>高市盈率可以反映投资者对创新的热情，就电动汽车而言，也可以反映行业转型的政治共识。因此，蔚来和特斯拉的市盈率远高于传统汽车制造商。</blockquote></p><p> Then again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.</p><p><blockquote>话又说回来，非常低的市盈率可能表明投资者对老牌制造商过于蔑视，因为他们利用传统汽车持续大量销售的现金流来资助电动汽车的开发。机会可能会被强调。</blockquote></p><p> Normally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.</p><p><blockquote>通常，远期市盈率的计算方法是将股价除以 12 个月每股收益的滚动共识估计。这并不适用于此处列出的所有公司，因此我们使用 2022 年净利润的共识估计。</blockquote></p><p> First, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:</p><p><blockquote>首先，以下是基于当前市值和 FactSet 调查的分析师对 2022 年普遍预期的市盈率。该表包括到 2025 年的年度预测，以及基于当前市值和 2025 年预测的市盈率：</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459439c822252d09b3dfb73cc5d51211\" tg-width=\"1058\" tg-height=\"743\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> Nio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&amp;P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来预计将于 2023 年实现盈利。展望2024年，其远期市盈率低于特斯拉。为了正确看待未来的市盈率估值，标普500指数的交易加权为 2022 年每股收益共识预期的 20.5 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to sales</b></p><p><blockquote><b>销售额估值</b></blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> Forward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table>对于利润或净亏损较低的早期公司来说，远期销售价格估算可能更有用。话又说回来，同样的扭曲也适用：投资者现在喜欢纯粹的电动汽车制造商，当你考虑到蔚来的股价在过去一年里上涨了两倍多，而特斯拉的股价上涨了150%时，他们可能会为它们支付过高的价格。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:</p><p><blockquote>以下是一组类似的驱动市销率的数据，再次使用当前市值（在本文顶部的第一个表格中）和以百万美元为单位的全年共识估计值：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8c0b7d002e07914e42fcdf0e624b25c\" tg-width=\"1051\" tg-height=\"668\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> For reference, the S&amp;P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.</p><p><blockquote>作为参考，标普500的交易价格是其 2022 年销量普遍预期的 2.7 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> <b>Analysts' opinions</b></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table><b>分析师意见</b></blockquote></p><p> Here's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. For companies with primary listings outside the U.S., the local tickers are used. All share prices and targets are in local currencies:</p><p><blockquote>以下是 FactSet 调查的分析师对 10 家汽车制造商的意见摘要。对于主要在美国境外上市的公司，使用当地股票代码。所有股价和目标均以当地货币计算：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/32f38063eabf2e93f73561a0454a44ac\" tg-width=\"1059\" tg-height=\"639\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nio-releases-earnings-wednesday-heres-how-to-value-its-stock-compared-to-tesla-ford-and-other-rivals-11628716814?mod=mw_quote_news\">MarkeWatch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"HMC":"本田汽车","GM":"通用汽车","TSLA":"特斯拉","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","STLA":"Stellantis NV"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nio-releases-earnings-wednesday-heres-how-to-value-its-stock-compared-to-tesla-ford-and-other-rivals-11628716814?mod=mw_quote_news","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2159214569","content_text":"Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.\nA Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)\nChinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.\nThat might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.\nSo where does Nio $(NIO)$, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.\nDoubling car production\nFor the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.\nHere's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYou can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc. and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.\nFor now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.\nOne thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.\nAmong those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:\nFor Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.\nVolkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.\nFor Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.\nValuation to earnings estimates\nFor companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. $(AMZN)$, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.\nA high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.\nThen again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.\nNormally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.\nFirst, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:\n\nNio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.\nValuation to sales\n\n\n\n\n\n\nForward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.\nHere's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:\n\nFor reference, the S&P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.\n\n\n\n\n\nAnalysts' opinions\nHere's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. 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Morgan Stanley also cut its rating on South Korean chipmakers SK Hynix.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利（Morgan Stanley）分析师约瑟夫-摩尔（Joseph Moore）将该股评级下调一级，至“同等权重”，同时将目标价下调30美元至75美元，因为该行指出，随着美光从周期中后期转向周期 “DRAM 状况失去动力”，美光的 “远期回报面临着充满挑战的背景”。摩根士丹利还下调了韩国芯片制造商SK海力士的评级。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Micron Stock Slides nearly 6% on Morgan Stanley Downgrade, Memory Chip Sector Warning<blockquote>摩根士丹利下调存储芯片行业警告，美光科技股价下跌近 6%</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMicron Stock Slides nearly 6% on Morgan Stanley Downgrade, Memory Chip Sector Warning<blockquote>摩根士丹利下调存储芯片行业警告，美光科技股价下跌近 6%</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Thestreet</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-12 21:38</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Micron Technology&nbsp;shares slumped&nbsp;nearly&nbsp;6%&nbsp;after analysts at Morgan Stanley cut their rating on the group amid a warning that 'winter is coming' for the global memory chip sector.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利分析师警告称全球存储芯片行业“冬天即将来临”，下调了美光科技的评级，导致该集团股价暴跌近 6%。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f8d2a465fc843b4324fc0a010c494ede\" tg-width=\"899\" tg-height=\"624\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Morgan Stanley analyst Joseph Moore lowered his rating on the stock by one notch, to 'equal-weight', while slashing his price target by $30 to $75 a share, as the bank noted \"a challenging backdrop for forward returns” for Micron as \"DRAM conditions lose steam\" in its shift from mid to late cycle. Morgan Stanley also cut its rating on South Korean chipmakers SK Hynix.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利（Morgan Stanley）分析师约瑟夫-摩尔（Joseph Moore）将该股评级下调一级，至“同等权重”，同时将目标价下调30美元至75美元，因为该行指出，随着美光从周期中后期转向周期 “DRAM 状况失去动力”，美光的 “远期回报面临着充满挑战的背景”。摩根士丹利还下调了韩国芯片制造商SK海力士的评级。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/micron-stock-slides-on-morgan-stanley-downgrade-dram-warning?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO\">Thestreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MU":"美光科技"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/micron-stock-slides-on-morgan-stanley-downgrade-dram-warning?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1140749727","content_text":"Micron Technology shares slumped nearly 6% after analysts at Morgan Stanley cut their rating on the group amid a warning that 'winter is coming' for the global memory chip sector.\n\nMorgan Stanley analyst Joseph Moore lowered his rating on the stock by one notch, to 'equal-weight', while slashing his price target by $30 to $75 a share, as the bank noted \"a challenging backdrop for forward returns” for Micron as \"DRAM conditions lose steam\" in its shift from mid to late cycle. Morgan Stanley also cut its rating on South Korean chipmakers SK Hynix.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"MU":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3727,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":892465826,"gmtCreate":1628684946065,"gmtModify":1633745162686,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Anyone else agrees with the article?&nbsp;","listText":"Anyone else agrees with the article?&nbsp;","text":"Anyone else agrees with the article?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/892465826","repostId":"2158281671","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4464,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":896101723,"gmtCreate":1628559523262,"gmtModify":1631883894957,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Which one will you choose?&nbsp;","listText":"Which one will you choose?&nbsp;","text":"Which one will you choose?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/896101723","repostId":"1127196790","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":4471,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":891961840,"gmtCreate":1628318799980,"gmtModify":1633751672951,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"More downside.&nbsp;","listText":"More downside.&nbsp;","text":"More downside.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/891961840","repostId":"1110501028","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1110501028","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1628260468,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1110501028?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-06 22:34","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Tencent sued by the Haidian District Procuratorate<blockquote>腾讯控股被海淀区检察院起诉</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1110501028","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"(Aug 6) Tencent sued by the Haidian District Procuratorate.","content":"<p>(Aug 6)&nbsp;Tencent sued by the Haidian District Procuratorate.</p><p><blockquote>（8月6日）腾讯控股被海淀区检察院起诉。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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One analyst believes that t","content":"<p>Apple shares remain stuck in the mud following strong fiscal Q3 results. One analyst believes that things will get even worse for the stock before they get better.</p><p><blockquote>在强劲的第三财季业绩后，苹果股价仍陷入困境。一位分析师认为，在好转之前，该股的情况会变得更糟。</blockquote></p><p> Applereported very solid fiscal Q3 numberson July 27, zipping past Wall Street’s most optimistic estimates once again. But as Apple stock&nbsp;failed to get traction after earnings season, not all analysts seem convinced that robust past performance will translate into higher share price.</p><p><blockquote>苹果公司在 7 月 27 日公布了非常稳健的第三财季数据，再次超出了华尔街最乐观的预期。但由于苹果股票在财报季后未能获得牵引力，并非所有分析师似乎都相信过去强劲的业绩将转化为更高的股价。</blockquote></p><p> Take Bernstein Toni Sacconaghi, for instance. The Apple skeptic, who has a hold rating on the stock and price target of $132 apiece,believes&nbsp;that AAPL has 10% downside from current levels. The Apple Maven explores the reasons why shares might dip this much.</p><p><blockquote>以伯恩斯坦·托尼·萨科纳吉为例。这位苹果怀疑论者对该股给予持有评级，目标价为每股 132 美元，他认为 AAPL 较当前水平有 10% 的下行空间。这位苹果专家探讨了股价可能大幅下跌的原因。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b78920b004c2e6135cfe065c8940151d\" tg-width=\"1240\" tg-height=\"827\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Figure 1: Apple logo sign from an Apple store.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图1：苹果一家商店的苹果标志标志。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>The case for a 10% loss</b></p><p><blockquote><b>10%损失的情况</b></blockquote></p><p> Toni begins his argument by recognizing that the bar had been set too high ahead of earnings season. This is reasonable, as Apple appreciated about 20% in the two months leading to its earnings day. Other Big Tech companies experienced similar “sell the news” pressure after reporting robust financial results –think of Microsoft(MSFT), for example.</p><p><blockquote>托尼在开始他的论点时承认，在财报季之前，门槛设定得太高了。这是合理的，因为苹果在财报发布前的两个月内升值了约 20%。其他大型科技公司在公布强劲的财务业绩后也面临着类似的 “抛售新闻 ”压力，比如微软（MSFT）。</blockquote></p><p> But the analyst’s concerns do not end here. According to him, there is a belief on the Street that things cannot get much better for the Cupertino company. Apple will start facing very tough comps starting now (see chart below) while dealing with supply chain challenges, and growth deceleration is all but a certainty at this point.</p><p><blockquote>但分析师的担忧并没有就此结束。据他说，街上有一种观点认为，库比蒂诺公司的情况不会好转了。从现在开始，苹果将开始面临非常艰难的竞争（见下图），同时应对供应链挑战，目前增长放缓几乎是必然的。</blockquote></p><p> The analyst thinks that revenue should be lighter than expected going forward and the iPhone, weaker through the next year. Apple is certainly more about services today than it used to be, but the iPhone remains a crucial component of the ecosystem.</p><p><blockquote>该分析师认为，未来的收入应该低于预期，iPhone 明年的收入也会疲软。如今的苹果肯定比过去更注重服务，但iPhone仍然是生态系统的重要组成部分。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b6090b256d9235de5597bfd07f68fa7\" tg-width=\"732\" tg-height=\"501\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Figure 2: Apple's total revenue growth.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图2：苹果总收入增长。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sacconaghi also thinks that valuations have stretched too thin. Historically, AAPL has been valued at a discount to the market. Today, the stock trades eight turns higher on a trailing twelve-month P/E basis, at 29 times earnings.</p><p><blockquote>萨科纳吉先生还认为，估值过于薄弱。从历史上看，AAPL 的估值一直低于市场。如今，该股在过去 12 个月的市盈率基础上上涨了 8 倍，市盈率为 29 倍。</blockquote></p><p> To be clear, Bernstein’s analyst believes that Apple deserves to be valued higher than the S&amp;P 500 now, given the growth in the higher-margin and recurring revenue service businesses. But he questions how much is too much. The analyst thinks that a fair earnings multiple would be around 25 times.</p><p><blockquote>需要明确的是，伯恩斯坦的分析师认为，鉴于利润率较高和经常性收入服务业务的增长，苹果现在的估值应该高于标普500。但他质疑多少才算太多。分析师认为，合理的市盈率约为 25 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> In my view, Bernstein’s analyst raises a few important points. Apple stock rallied ahead of earnings, which may explain a period of share price consolidation, even after strong earnings. It is also undeniable that comps will be very hard to beat immediately before, during and just after the 2021 holiday season.</p><p><blockquote>在我看来，伯恩斯坦的分析师提出了几个重要观点。苹果股价在财报公布前上涨，这可能解释了一段时间的股价盘整，即使在财报强劲之后也是如此。同样不可否认的是，在2021年假期之前、期间和之后，comps将很难被击败。</blockquote></p><p> But I am not too concerned about the other points that Toni has raised. On valuation,I side with Wedbush’s Dan Ives&nbsp;in thinking that relying on P/E alone can be tricky. Apple stock has probably been re-rated for higher growth (5G cycle, wearables, mixed reality, Apple Car) and heavier service mix leading to stickier revenues and better margins.</p><p><blockquote>但我不太关心托尼提出的其他观点。在估值方面，我同意韦德布什的丹-艾夫斯（Dan Ives）的观点，认为仅仅依靠市盈率可能会很棘手。苹果股票可能因更高的增长（5G周期、可穿戴设备、混合现实、苹果汽车）和更重的服务组合而被重新评级，从而带来更高的收入和更好的利润率。</blockquote></p><p> As AAPL hovers within two percentage points of its all-time high, I understand that investors should not expect outsized returns in the next 12 to 18 months. But I continue to find the stock a good buy-and-hold investment for the long term.</p><p><blockquote>由于 AAPL 徘徊在历史高点两个百分点以内，我理解投资者不应期望在未来 12 至 18 个月内获得巨额回报。但我仍然认为该股票是长期买入并持有的良好投资。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>This Expert Sees Apple Stock Falling 10%<blockquote>这位专家认为苹果股价下跌 10%</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThis Expert Sees Apple Stock Falling 10%<blockquote>这位专家认为苹果股价下跌 10%</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">TheStreet</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-06 09:03</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Apple shares remain stuck in the mud following strong fiscal Q3 results. One analyst believes that things will get even worse for the stock before they get better.</p><p><blockquote>在强劲的第三财季业绩后，苹果股价仍陷入困境。一位分析师认为，在好转之前，该股的情况会变得更糟。</blockquote></p><p> Applereported very solid fiscal Q3 numberson July 27, zipping past Wall Street’s most optimistic estimates once again. But as Apple stock&nbsp;failed to get traction after earnings season, not all analysts seem convinced that robust past performance will translate into higher share price.</p><p><blockquote>苹果公司在 7 月 27 日公布了非常稳健的第三财季数据，再次超出了华尔街最乐观的预期。但由于苹果股票在财报季后未能获得牵引力，并非所有分析师似乎都相信过去强劲的业绩将转化为更高的股价。</blockquote></p><p> Take Bernstein Toni Sacconaghi, for instance. The Apple skeptic, who has a hold rating on the stock and price target of $132 apiece,believes&nbsp;that AAPL has 10% downside from current levels. The Apple Maven explores the reasons why shares might dip this much.</p><p><blockquote>以伯恩斯坦·托尼·萨科纳吉为例。这位苹果怀疑论者对该股给予持有评级，目标价为每股 132 美元，他认为 AAPL 较当前水平有 10% 的下行空间。这位苹果专家探讨了股价可能大幅下跌的原因。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b78920b004c2e6135cfe065c8940151d\" tg-width=\"1240\" tg-height=\"827\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Figure 1: Apple logo sign from an Apple store.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图1：苹果一家商店的苹果标志标志。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>The case for a 10% loss</b></p><p><blockquote><b>10%损失的情况</b></blockquote></p><p> Toni begins his argument by recognizing that the bar had been set too high ahead of earnings season. This is reasonable, as Apple appreciated about 20% in the two months leading to its earnings day. Other Big Tech companies experienced similar “sell the news” pressure after reporting robust financial results –think of Microsoft(MSFT), for example.</p><p><blockquote>托尼在开始他的论点时承认，在财报季之前，门槛设定得太高了。这是合理的，因为苹果在财报发布前的两个月内升值了约 20%。其他大型科技公司在公布强劲的财务业绩后也面临着类似的 “抛售新闻 ”压力，比如微软（MSFT）。</blockquote></p><p> But the analyst’s concerns do not end here. According to him, there is a belief on the Street that things cannot get much better for the Cupertino company. Apple will start facing very tough comps starting now (see chart below) while dealing with supply chain challenges, and growth deceleration is all but a certainty at this point.</p><p><blockquote>但分析师的担忧并没有就此结束。据他说，街上有一种观点认为，库比蒂诺公司的情况不会好转了。从现在开始，苹果将开始面临非常艰难的竞争（见下图），同时应对供应链挑战，目前增长放缓几乎是必然的。</blockquote></p><p> The analyst thinks that revenue should be lighter than expected going forward and the iPhone, weaker through the next year. Apple is certainly more about services today than it used to be, but the iPhone remains a crucial component of the ecosystem.</p><p><blockquote>该分析师认为，未来的收入应该低于预期，iPhone 明年的收入也会疲软。如今的苹果肯定比过去更注重服务，但iPhone仍然是生态系统的重要组成部分。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b6090b256d9235de5597bfd07f68fa7\" tg-width=\"732\" tg-height=\"501\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Figure 2: Apple's total revenue growth.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图2：苹果总收入增长。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sacconaghi also thinks that valuations have stretched too thin. Historically, AAPL has been valued at a discount to the market. Today, the stock trades eight turns higher on a trailing twelve-month P/E basis, at 29 times earnings.</p><p><blockquote>萨科纳吉先生还认为，估值过于薄弱。从历史上看，AAPL 的估值一直低于市场。如今，该股在过去 12 个月的市盈率基础上上涨了 8 倍，市盈率为 29 倍。</blockquote></p><p> To be clear, Bernstein’s analyst believes that Apple deserves to be valued higher than the S&amp;P 500 now, given the growth in the higher-margin and recurring revenue service businesses. But he questions how much is too much. The analyst thinks that a fair earnings multiple would be around 25 times.</p><p><blockquote>需要明确的是，伯恩斯坦的分析师认为，鉴于利润率较高和经常性收入服务业务的增长，苹果现在的估值应该高于标普500。但他质疑多少才算太多。分析师认为，合理的市盈率约为 25 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> In my view, Bernstein’s analyst raises a few important points. Apple stock rallied ahead of earnings, which may explain a period of share price consolidation, even after strong earnings. It is also undeniable that comps will be very hard to beat immediately before, during and just after the 2021 holiday season.</p><p><blockquote>在我看来，伯恩斯坦的分析师提出了几个重要观点。苹果股价在财报公布前上涨，这可能解释了一段时间的股价盘整，即使在财报强劲之后也是如此。同样不可否认的是，在2021年假期之前、期间和之后，comps将很难被击败。</blockquote></p><p> But I am not too concerned about the other points that Toni has raised. On valuation,I side with Wedbush’s Dan Ives&nbsp;in thinking that relying on P/E alone can be tricky. Apple stock has probably been re-rated for higher growth (5G cycle, wearables, mixed reality, Apple Car) and heavier service mix leading to stickier revenues and better margins.</p><p><blockquote>但我不太关心托尼提出的其他观点。在估值方面，我同意韦德布什的丹-艾夫斯（Dan Ives）的观点，认为仅仅依靠市盈率可能会很棘手。苹果股票可能因更高的增长（5G周期、可穿戴设备、混合现实、苹果汽车）和更重的服务组合而被重新评级，从而带来更高的收入和更好的利润率。</blockquote></p><p> As AAPL hovers within two percentage points of its all-time high, I understand that investors should not expect outsized returns in the next 12 to 18 months. But I continue to find the stock a good buy-and-hold investment for the long term.</p><p><blockquote>由于 AAPL 徘徊在历史高点两个百分点以内，我理解投资者不应期望在未来 12 至 18 个月内获得巨额回报。但我仍然认为该股票是长期买入并持有的良好投资。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/news/this-expert-sees-apple-stock-falling-10\">TheStreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/news/this-expert-sees-apple-stock-falling-10","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1127725180","content_text":"Apple shares remain stuck in the mud following strong fiscal Q3 results. One analyst believes that things will get even worse for the stock before they get better.\nApplereported very solid fiscal Q3 numberson July 27, zipping past Wall Street’s most optimistic estimates once again. But as Apple stock failed to get traction after earnings season, not all analysts seem convinced that robust past performance will translate into higher share price.\nTake Bernstein Toni Sacconaghi, for instance. The Apple skeptic, who has a hold rating on the stock and price target of $132 apiece,believes that AAPL has 10% downside from current levels. The Apple Maven explores the reasons why shares might dip this much.\nFigure 1: Apple logo sign from an Apple store.\nThe case for a 10% loss\nToni begins his argument by recognizing that the bar had been set too high ahead of earnings season. This is reasonable, as Apple appreciated about 20% in the two months leading to its earnings day. Other Big Tech companies experienced similar “sell the news” pressure after reporting robust financial results –think of Microsoft(MSFT), for example.\nBut the analyst’s concerns do not end here. According to him, there is a belief on the Street that things cannot get much better for the Cupertino company. Apple will start facing very tough comps starting now (see chart below) while dealing with supply chain challenges, and growth deceleration is all but a certainty at this point.\nThe analyst thinks that revenue should be lighter than expected going forward and the iPhone, weaker through the next year. Apple is certainly more about services today than it used to be, but the iPhone remains a crucial component of the ecosystem.\nFigure 2: Apple's total revenue growth.\nMr. Sacconaghi also thinks that valuations have stretched too thin. Historically, AAPL has been valued at a discount to the market. Today, the stock trades eight turns higher on a trailing twelve-month P/E basis, at 29 times earnings.\nTo be clear, Bernstein’s analyst believes that Apple deserves to be valued higher than the S&P 500 now, given the growth in the higher-margin and recurring revenue service businesses. But he questions how much is too much. The analyst thinks that a fair earnings multiple would be around 25 times.\nThe Apple Maven’s take\nIn my view, Bernstein’s analyst raises a few important points. Apple stock rallied ahead of earnings, which may explain a period of share price consolidation, even after strong earnings. It is also undeniable that comps will be very hard to beat immediately before, during and just after the 2021 holiday season.\nBut I am not too concerned about the other points that Toni has raised. On valuation,I side with Wedbush’s Dan Ives in thinking that relying on P/E alone can be tricky. Apple stock has probably been re-rated for higher growth (5G cycle, wearables, mixed reality, Apple Car) and heavier service mix leading to stickier revenues and better margins.\nAs AAPL hovers within two percentage points of its all-time high, I understand that investors should not expect outsized returns in the next 12 to 18 months. But I continue to find the stock a good buy-and-hold investment for the long term.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AAPL":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1345,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":805132984,"gmtCreate":1627864776848,"gmtModify":1633755868892,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"I mean, how is he even related to this case? Does his opinion even matter here? Hahaha","listText":"I mean, how is he even related to this case? Does his opinion even matter here? Hahaha","text":"I mean, how is he even related to this case? Does his opinion even matter here? Hahaha","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/805132984","repostId":"2155064154","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1265,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":801538162,"gmtCreate":1627522195856,"gmtModify":1633764171922,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"5G is the way forward.&nbsp;","listText":"5G is the way forward.&nbsp;","text":"5G is the way forward.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/801538162","repostId":"1191373397","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1095,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803184084,"gmtCreate":1627428246848,"gmtModify":1633765188221,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"You can't grow forever.&nbsp;","listText":"You can't grow forever.&nbsp;","text":"You can't grow forever.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/803184084","repostId":"2154691065","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1316,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":809671900,"gmtCreate":1627369406600,"gmtModify":1633765657429,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Buy the dip.&nbsp;","listText":"Buy the dip.&nbsp;","text":"Buy the dip.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/809671900","repostId":"1145674771","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1184,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":177367721,"gmtCreate":1627181696163,"gmtModify":1633767395075,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"It has to first dominate their domestic market share.&nbsp;","listText":"It has to first dominate their domestic market share.&nbsp;","text":"It has to first dominate their domestic market share.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/177367721","repostId":"1112927800","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1112927800","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1627089375,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1112927800?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-24 09:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗？这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112927800","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV p","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul>  <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li>  <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li>  <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何，蔚来独特的卖点，以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择，相对于特斯拉的估值，它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而，蔚来并不是一只低风险股票，它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来（蔚来）是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一，通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品，吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而，如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场，特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此，但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨，但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功，这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年，两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣，这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合，蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%，而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而，这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点，该高点在 2021 年初触及，之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价，我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识，而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的，那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资，因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨，而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处，但也有不同之处。因此，人们可以说，在某些方面，这两者是相似的，但在其他方面，它们不是。让我们看几件事：</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域，尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务，例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的，这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场，销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆，特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y，而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司，但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施，就特斯拉而言，这就是增压器网络，特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电，功率高达 250kW，具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法，为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池，这一过程只需几分钟，因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此，BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势，但应该注意的是，与蔚来的换电站相比，特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出，但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比，蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察，但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈，这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大，无论是在收入和汽车销量方面，还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车，同比增长112%，年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时，特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车，高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长，尽管略低于 100%，因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比，特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍，当我们查看两家公司的市值时，我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同，因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下，这将是完全有意义的，但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易，因为它的估值相当，同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此，特斯拉的增长预计将放缓：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元，年增长率为30%。与此同时，蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元，年增长率为 54%。因此，相对而言，预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说，这并不奇怪，因为大数定律表明，对于一家公司来说，保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难，而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错，事实上，许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比，特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋，而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时，情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元，比 2023 年预期再增长 80%，比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时，特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元，这是一个很大的数字，但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%，比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此，在 2021 年至 2025 年间，蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍，而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下，这是一个有意义的差异，应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值，就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值（OTCPK：VWAGY）。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较，我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍，而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说，蔚来目前似乎更有价值，因为当我们展望未来时，它的销售倍数要低得多。然而，这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜，因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比，即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而，蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜，即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly&nbsp;overpriced&nbsp;today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are&nbsp;underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今，蔚来比特斯拉小得多，因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是，不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少，它的股票今天有可能被严重高估，我个人也相信这一点（请注意，有些人会认为股票价格被低估，这也是可能性之一，尽管我个人并不持有这种信念）。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的，并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时，确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值，那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标，尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车，到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%，那么到 2030 年（即 9 年后），它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长，每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过，例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年，那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率，蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说，如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的，并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的，那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉（今天）一样高。当然，这是两个主要的如果，尤其是第二点，我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言，看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶，因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平，即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望，目前的预测过于乐观，尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌，处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是，特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同，因此即使蔚来达到这个水平，也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时，特斯拉的估值可能会更高，例如，如果方舟模型是正确的（我个人认为不太可能）。为了回答上述问题，人们可以说，蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元，就像特斯拉一样，但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况，到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票？</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时，它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反，投资者应该问问自己，未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少，以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险，值得一提的是，该公司尚未盈利，这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是，电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧，市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力，尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位，我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是，该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险，尽管还应该指出的是，目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说，相对于传统汽车公司的估值，整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比，即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay，蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍，与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵，尽管当然，这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型，从长远来看，其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资，蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响，然而，这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力，如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay，蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗？这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-07-24 09:16</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul>  <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li>  <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li>  <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何，蔚来独特的卖点，以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择，相对于特斯拉的估值，它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而，蔚来并不是一只低风险股票，它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来（蔚来）是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一，通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品，吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而，如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场，特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此，但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨，但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功，这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年，两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣，这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合，蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%，而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而，这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点，该高点在 2021 年初触及，之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价，我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识，而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的，那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资，因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨，而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处，但也有不同之处。因此，人们可以说，在某些方面，这两者是相似的，但在其他方面，它们不是。让我们看几件事：</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域，尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务，例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的，这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场，销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆，特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y，而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司，但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施，就特斯拉而言，这就是增压器网络，特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电，功率高达 250kW，具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法，为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池，这一过程只需几分钟，因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此，BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势，但应该注意的是，与蔚来的换电站相比，特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出，但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比，蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察，但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈，这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大，无论是在收入和汽车销量方面，还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车，同比增长112%，年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时，特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车，高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长，尽管略低于 100%，因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比，特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍，当我们查看两家公司的市值时，我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同，因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下，这将是完全有意义的，但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易，因为它的估值相当，同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此，特斯拉的增长预计将放缓：</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元，年增长率为30%。与此同时，蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元，年增长率为 54%。因此，相对而言，预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说，这并不奇怪，因为大数定律表明，对于一家公司来说，保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难，而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错，事实上，许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比，特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋，而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时，情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元，比 2023 年预期再增长 80%，比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时，特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元，这是一个很大的数字，但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%，比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此，在 2021 年至 2025 年间，蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍，而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下，这是一个有意义的差异，应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值，就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值（OTCPK：VWAGY）。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较，我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍，而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说，蔚来目前似乎更有价值，因为当我们展望未来时，它的销售倍数要低得多。然而，这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜，因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比，即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而，蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜，即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly&nbsp;overpriced&nbsp;today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are&nbsp;underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今，蔚来比特斯拉小得多，因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是，不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少，它的股票今天有可能被严重高估，我个人也相信这一点（请注意，有些人会认为股票价格被低估，这也是可能性之一，尽管我个人并不持有这种信念）。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的，并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时，确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值，那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标，尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车，到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%，那么到 2030 年（即 9 年后），它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长，每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过，例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年，那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率，蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说，如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的，并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的，那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉（今天）一样高。当然，这是两个主要的如果，尤其是第二点，我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言，看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶，因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平，即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望，目前的预测过于乐观，尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌，处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是，特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同，因此即使蔚来达到这个水平，也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时，特斯拉的估值可能会更高，例如，如果方舟模型是正确的（我个人认为不太可能）。为了回答上述问题，人们可以说，蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元，就像特斯拉一样，但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况，到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票？</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时，它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反，投资者应该问问自己，未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少，以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险，值得一提的是，该公司尚未盈利，这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是，电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧，市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力，尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位，我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是，该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险，尽管还应该指出的是，目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说，相对于传统汽车公司的估值，整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比，即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay，蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍，与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵，尽管当然，这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型，从长远来看，其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资，蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响，然而，这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力，如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay，蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112927800","content_text":"Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.\nNIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.\n\nipopba/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nNIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.\nNIO And TSLA Stock Prices\nBoth companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.\nData by YCharts\nTaking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.\nIs NIO Similar To Tesla?\nThe answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:\nBusiness Model\nBoth companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.\nBoth companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.\nSize, growth, and valuation\nThe two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.\nTesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:\nData by YCharts\nTesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.\nThe same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).\nLooking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.\nCan NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?\nThe answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).\nWhen we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.\nIt should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.\nIs NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?\nWhen considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.\nOne could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":0.9,"NIO":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1094,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":174408003,"gmtCreate":1627118993702,"gmtModify":1631884664809,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"More bad news for China stocks.&nbsp;","listText":"More bad news for China stocks.&nbsp;","text":"More bad news for China stocks.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/174408003","repostId":"1151500518","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1151500518","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1627092269,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1151500518?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-24 10:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tencent was ordered to remove the exclusive copyright of online music<blockquote>腾讯控股被勒令删除在线音乐的独家版权</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1151500518","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"The China market supervision administration made an administrative punishment decision according to ","content":"<p>The China market supervision administration made an administrative punishment decision according to law, ordering Tencent and its affiliated companies to take measures to restore the state of market competition, such as canceling the exclusive music copyright within 30 days, stopping the payment of copyright fees such as high prepayment, and not requiring the upstream copyright party to give conditions superior to its competitors without justified reasons. Tencent will report the performance of its obligations to the State Administration of market supervision every year within three years, and the State Administration of market supervision will strictly supervise its implementation according to law.</p><p><blockquote>国家市场监督管理总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令腾讯控股及其关联公司采取30日内取消独家音乐版权、停止支付高额预付款等版权费用、无正当理由不得要求上游版权方给予优于其竞争对手的条件等恢复市场竞争状态的措施。腾讯控股将在3年内每年向国家市场监督管理总局报告履行义务情况，国家市场监督管理总局将依法严格监督其执行情况。</blockquote></p><p> This case is the first case in which necessary measures have been taken to restore the state of market competition for the illegal implementation of business concentration since the implementation of China's anti-monopoly law.</p><p><blockquote>本案是我国《反垄断法》实施以来，对违法实施经营者集中行为采取必要措施恢复市场竞争状态的第一起案件。</blockquote></p><p> Tencent responded that the company will seriously abide by the decision, strictly implement the regulatory requirements, operate in accordance with the law, earnestly fulfill its social responsibility and maintain benign competition in the market. Tencent will take full responsibility, formulate rectification measures and plans with Tencent music and other affiliated companies within the specified time limit, and complete them completely in accordance with the requirements of the punishment decision to ensure that the rectification is in place.</p><p><blockquote>腾讯控股回应称，公司将认真遵守决定，严格执行监管要求，依法经营，切实履行社会责任，维护市场良性竞争。腾讯控股将全面负起责任，在规定期限内会同腾讯控股音乐等关联公司制定整改措施和方案，并按照处罚决定书要求全面完成，确保整改到位。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tencent was ordered to remove the exclusive copyright of online music<blockquote>腾讯控股被勒令删除在线音乐的独家版权</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTencent was ordered to remove the exclusive copyright of online music<blockquote>腾讯控股被勒令删除在线音乐的独家版权</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-07-24 10:04</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>The China market supervision administration made an administrative punishment decision according to law, ordering Tencent and its affiliated companies to take measures to restore the state of market competition, such as canceling the exclusive music copyright within 30 days, stopping the payment of copyright fees such as high prepayment, and not requiring the upstream copyright party to give conditions superior to its competitors without justified reasons. Tencent will report the performance of its obligations to the State Administration of market supervision every year within three years, and the State Administration of market supervision will strictly supervise its implementation according to law.</p><p><blockquote>国家市场监督管理总局依法作出行政处罚决定，责令腾讯控股及其关联公司采取30日内取消独家音乐版权、停止支付高额预付款等版权费用、无正当理由不得要求上游版权方给予优于其竞争对手的条件等恢复市场竞争状态的措施。腾讯控股将在3年内每年向国家市场监督管理总局报告履行义务情况，国家市场监督管理总局将依法严格监督其执行情况。</blockquote></p><p> This case is the first case in which necessary measures have been taken to restore the state of market competition for the illegal implementation of business concentration since the implementation of China's anti-monopoly law.</p><p><blockquote>本案是我国《反垄断法》实施以来，对违法实施经营者集中行为采取必要措施恢复市场竞争状态的第一起案件。</blockquote></p><p> Tencent responded that the company will seriously abide by the decision, strictly implement the regulatory requirements, operate in accordance with the law, earnestly fulfill its social responsibility and maintain benign competition in the market. Tencent will take full responsibility, formulate rectification measures and plans with Tencent music and other affiliated companies within the specified time limit, and complete them completely in accordance with the requirements of the punishment decision to ensure that the rectification is in place.</p><p><blockquote>腾讯控股回应称，公司将认真遵守决定，严格执行监管要求，依法经营，切实履行社会责任，维护市场良性竞争。腾讯控股将全面负起责任，在规定期限内会同腾讯控股音乐等关联公司制定整改措施和方案，并按照处罚决定书要求全面完成，确保整改到位。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TME":"腾讯音乐","00700":"腾讯控股"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1151500518","content_text":"The China market supervision administration made an administrative punishment decision according to law, ordering Tencent and its affiliated companies to take measures to restore the state of market competition, such as canceling the exclusive music copyright within 30 days, stopping the payment of copyright fees such as high prepayment, and not requiring the upstream copyright party to give conditions superior to its competitors without justified reasons. Tencent will report the performance of its obligations to the State Administration of market supervision every year within three years, and the State Administration of market supervision will strictly supervise its implementation according to law.\nThis case is the first case in which necessary measures have been taken to restore the state of market competition for the illegal implementation of business concentration since the implementation of China's anti-monopoly law.\nTencent responded that the company will seriously abide by the decision, strictly implement the regulatory requirements, operate in accordance with the law, earnestly fulfill its social responsibility and maintain benign competition in the market. Tencent will take full responsibility, formulate rectification measures and plans with Tencent music and other affiliated companies within the specified time limit, and complete them completely in accordance with the requirements of the punishment decision to ensure that the rectification is in place.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"00700":0.9,"TME":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1165,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":176711467,"gmtCreate":1626915766859,"gmtModify":1633769802201,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"No more covid fears from yesterday? Interesting how fast things change.&nbsp;","listText":"No more covid fears from yesterday? Interesting how fast things change.&nbsp;","text":"No more covid fears from yesterday? Interesting how fast things change.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/176711467","repostId":"2153477496","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1027,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":178546781,"gmtCreate":1626829232343,"gmtModify":1631883982137,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"How can you be fearful one day and optimistic another. These reports really just try to force out any random excuse to fit the market movement.&nbsp;","listText":"How can you be fearful one day and optimistic another. These reports really just try to force out any random excuse to fit the market movement.&nbsp;","text":"How can you be fearful one day and optimistic another. These reports really just try to force out any random excuse to fit the market movement.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/178546781","repostId":"2153924256","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1198,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":178548208,"gmtCreate":1626829186504,"gmtModify":1633770633688,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3572436349218639","authorIdStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01810\">$XIAOMI-W(01810)$</a>xiaomi has evolved to become more than a mobile phone seller. While it's phone is continuing to improve and overtake competitors. It's expanding its ecosystem to include other lifestyle accessories. Really a company i am going to hold for the long run.&nbsp;","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01810\">$XIAOMI-W(01810)$</a>xiaomi has evolved to become more than a mobile phone seller. While it's phone is continuing to improve and overtake competitors. It's expanding its ecosystem to include other lifestyle accessories. Really a company i am going to hold for the long run.&nbsp;","text":"$XIAOMI-W(01810)$xiaomi has evolved to become more than a mobile phone seller. While it's phone is continuing to improve and overtake competitors. It's expanding its ecosystem to include other lifestyle accessories. 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Everyone bashing the article for just pointing out facts. 🤷 Don't fall in love with a stock.&nbsp;","listText":"LOL why so triggered? Everyone bashing the article for just pointing out facts. 🤷 Don't fall in love with a stock.&nbsp;","text":"LOL why so triggered? Everyone bashing the article for just pointing out facts. 🤷 Don't fall in love with a stock.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":10,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/116623161","repostId":"1169305457","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1169305457","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1622793856,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1169305457?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-04 16:04","market":"us","language":"en","title":"AMC shares tanked another 5% in premarket trading<blockquote>AMC 股价在盘前交易中又下跌 5%</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1169305457","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"AMC shares tanked another 5% in premarket trading.AMC Entertainment shares plunged 18% on Thursday f","content":"<p>AMC shares tanked another&nbsp;5% in premarket trading.</p><p><blockquote>AMC 股价在盘前交易中又下跌 5%。</blockquote></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/651c70ab98e89bf8e6705480ef126728\" tg-width=\"909\" tg-height=\"663\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p>AMC Entertainment&nbsp;shares plunged&nbsp;18% on Thursday&nbsp;following a stock sale announcement.</p><p><blockquote>股票出售公告后，AMC院线股价周四暴跌 18%。</blockquote></p><p>AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc.&nbsp;is asking investors to authorize an additional 25 million new shares,aiming tocapitalize on a rally that has sent the stock of the ailing movie-theater chain up about 2,300% this year.</p><p><blockquote>AMC院线控股公司正在要求投资者授权额外发行 2500 万股新股，旨在利用这家陷入困境的连锁影院股价今年上涨约 2,300% 的涨势。</blockquote></p><p>The proposal announced Thursday in a filing will be put to a vote at the company’s July 29 annual meeting. The equity today would be valued at $1.3 billion, though the company promised not to issue the new shares in 2021.</p><p><blockquote>周四在一份文件中宣布的提案将在公司 7 月 29 日的年会上进行投票表决。尽管该公司承诺不会在 2021 年发行新股，但今天的股权价值为 13 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p>“To successfully navigate the road ahead, we seek to assemble all of the financial tools that might help us,” Chief Executive Officer Adam Aron said in a statement. “An important tool for any company is having shares available to issue.”</p><p><blockquote>“首席执行官亚当-阿伦（Adam Aron）在一份声明中说：”为了成功驾驭未来的道路，我们寻求汇集所有可能对我们有帮助的金融工具。“对于任何公司来说，拥有可供发行股票都是一个重要的工具。”</blockquote></p><p>The request is perhaps unsurprising for a company that’s become the king of meme stocks, at the heart of a frenzy of online traders determine to pump up its valuation.</p><p><blockquote>对于一家已成为备忘录股票之王的公司来说，这一要求或许并不令人意外，因为该公司正处于网络交易者决定提高其估值的狂热中心。</blockquote></p><p>Still, it’s a major retreat from a request earlier this year to authorize 500 million new shares. That proposal was originally up for a vote in May, but the annual meeting was postponed and the request withdrawn after it became clear investors would shoot it down.</p><p><blockquote>尽管如此，这与今年早些时候授权发行 5 亿股新股的请求相比还是有了很大的退步。该提案原定于 5 月份进行投票，但年会被推迟，在投资者明确会否决该提案后，该请求被撤回。</blockquote></p><p>Aron said in April the struggling company could issue about 43 million new shares. With sales of new stock totaling more than $800 million just this week, AMC has now completed nearly all of that authorization, according to the filing.</p><p><blockquote>阿伦在4月份表示，这家陷入困境的公司可能会发行约4300万股新股。文件显示，仅本周新股销售额就超过 8 亿美元，AMC 现已完成几乎所有授权。</blockquote></p><p>In a YouTube interview Thursday, Aron said proceeds from another equity sale, if approved, would be used to reduce debt, help the company negotiate with landlords who are owed $400 million, and to chase acquisitions “hard.”</p><p><blockquote>阿伦周四在接受 YouTube 采访时表示，如果获得批准，另一次股权出售的收益将用于减少债务，帮助公司与被拖欠 4 亿美元的房东谈判，并 “努力 ”追求收购。</blockquote></p><p>”It’s our view that we’re strengthening the company,” he said. “We’re not hurting the company.”</p><p><blockquote>“他说：”我们认为，我们正在加强公司的实力。“我们没有伤害公司。”</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>AMC shares tanked another 5% in premarket trading<blockquote>AMC 股价在盘前交易中又下跌 5%</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The equity today would be valued at $1.3 billion, though the company promised not to issue the new shares in 2021.</p><p><blockquote>周四在一份文件中宣布的提案将在公司 7 月 29 日的年会上进行投票表决。尽管该公司承诺不会在 2021 年发行新股，但今天的股权价值为 13 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p>“To successfully navigate the road ahead, we seek to assemble all of the financial tools that might help us,” Chief Executive Officer Adam Aron said in a statement. “An important tool for any company is having shares available to issue.”</p><p><blockquote>“首席执行官亚当-阿伦（Adam Aron）在一份声明中说：”为了成功驾驭未来的道路，我们寻求汇集所有可能对我们有帮助的金融工具。“对于任何公司来说，拥有可供发行股票都是一个重要的工具。”</blockquote></p><p>The request is perhaps unsurprising for a company that’s become the king of meme stocks, at the heart of a frenzy of online traders determine to pump up its valuation.</p><p><blockquote>对于一家已成为备忘录股票之王的公司来说，这一要求或许并不令人意外，因为该公司正处于网络交易者决定提高其估值的狂热中心。</blockquote></p><p>Still, it’s a major retreat from a request earlier this year to authorize 500 million new shares. That proposal was originally up for a vote in May, but the annual meeting was postponed and the request withdrawn after it became clear investors would shoot it down.</p><p><blockquote>尽管如此，这与今年早些时候授权发行 5 亿股新股的请求相比还是有了很大的退步。该提案原定于 5 月份进行投票，但年会被推迟，在投资者明确会否决该提案后，该请求被撤回。</blockquote></p><p>Aron said in April the struggling company could issue about 43 million new shares. With sales of new stock totaling more than $800 million just this week, AMC has now completed nearly all of that authorization, according to the filing.</p><p><blockquote>阿伦在4月份表示，这家陷入困境的公司可能会发行约4300万股新股。文件显示，仅本周新股销售额就超过 8 亿美元，AMC 现已完成几乎所有授权。</blockquote></p><p>In a YouTube interview Thursday, Aron said proceeds from another equity sale, if approved, would be used to reduce debt, help the company negotiate with landlords who are owed $400 million, and to chase acquisitions “hard.”</p><p><blockquote>阿伦周四在接受 YouTube 采访时表示，如果获得批准，另一次股权出售的收益将用于减少债务，帮助公司与被拖欠 4 亿美元的房东谈判，并 “努力 ”追求收购。</blockquote></p><p>”It’s our view that we’re strengthening the company,” he said. “We’re not hurting the company.”</p><p><blockquote>“他说：”我们认为，我们正在加强公司的实力。“我们没有伤害公司。”</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMC":"AMC院线"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1169305457","content_text":"AMC shares tanked another 5% in premarket trading.AMC Entertainment shares plunged 18% on Thursday following a stock sale announcement.AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc. is asking investors to authorize an additional 25 million new shares,aiming tocapitalize on a rally that has sent the stock of the ailing movie-theater chain up about 2,300% this year.The proposal announced Thursday in a filing will be put to a vote at the company’s July 29 annual meeting. The equity today would be valued at $1.3 billion, though the company promised not to issue the new shares in 2021.“To successfully navigate the road ahead, we seek to assemble all of the financial tools that might help us,” Chief Executive Officer Adam Aron said in a statement. “An important tool for any company is having shares available to issue.”The request is perhaps unsurprising for a company that’s become the king of meme stocks, at the heart of a frenzy of online traders determine to pump up its valuation.Still, it’s a major retreat from a request earlier this year to authorize 500 million new shares. That proposal was originally up for a vote in May, but the annual meeting was postponed and the request withdrawn after it became clear investors would shoot it down.Aron said in April the struggling company could issue about 43 million new shares. 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Can they really be a profitable company?","listText":"So late into the e-commerce market? Can they really be a profitable company?","text":"So late into the e-commerce market? Can they really be a profitable company?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/377039403","repostId":"2130071345","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2130071345","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1619481187,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/2130071345?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-04-27 07:53","market":"us","language":"en","title":"GameStop raises $551 mln to accelerate e-commerce push, shares jump<blockquote>游戏驿站筹集 5.51 亿美元加速电子商务发展，股价飙升</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2130071345","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"GameStop Corp has raised $551 million through an equity offering as the videogame retailer accelerat","content":"<p>GameStop Corp has raised $551 million through an equity offering as the videogame retailer accelerates its shift to e-commerce, sending its shares 9.5% higher in extended trading on Monday.</p><p><blockquote>随着视频游戏零售商游戏驿站加速向电子商务转型，该公司通过股票发行筹集了 5.51 亿美元，其股价在周一盘后交易中上涨 9.5%。</blockquote></p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/816e0d15068fe527b370f49cb962516f\" tg-width=\"1302\" tg-height=\"833\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p>The company, which was at the center of a Reddit-fueled trading frenzy earlier this year, said in a statement it had sold 3.5 million shares in the at-the-market offering.</p><p><blockquote>该公司今年早些时候处于 Reddit 引发的交易狂潮的中心，该公司在一份声明中表示，已在场外发行中出售了 350 万股股票。</blockquote></p><p>Based on Reuters calculation, the average price of the shares sold was $157.43. The company's stock has gained more than 850% this year thanks to a push by retail investors to drive up prices of heavily shorted stocks.</p><p><blockquote>根据路透社的计算，出售股票的平均价格为157.43美元。由于散户投资者推动大幅做空股票的价格上涨，该公司股价今年已上涨超过 850%。</blockquote></p><p>GameStop said earlier this month George Sherman will step down as its chief executive officer in the biggest management shakeup at the retailer, giving top shareholder Ryan Cohen more control.</p><p><blockquote>游戏驿站本月早些时候表示，George Sherman 将辞去首席执行官一职，这是该零售商最大的管理层变动，让大股东 Ryan Cohen 获得更多控制权。</blockquote></p><p>Cohen, whose RC Ventures owns nearly 13% of GameStop, is leading the company's transformation into an e-commerce firm that can compete with big retailers such as Walmart Inc, as well as technology companies like Microsoft Corp and Sony Corp.</p><p><blockquote>科恩的 RC Ventures 拥有游戏驿站近 13% 的股份，他正在领导该公司转型为一家电子商务公司，可以与沃尔玛等大型零售商以及微软和索尼公司等科技公司竞争。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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The company's stock has gained more than 850% this year thanks to a push by retail investors to drive up prices of heavily shorted stocks.</p><p><blockquote>根据路透社的计算，出售股票的平均价格为157.43美元。由于散户投资者推动大幅做空股票的价格上涨，该公司股价今年已上涨超过 850%。</blockquote></p><p>GameStop said earlier this month George Sherman will step down as its chief executive officer in the biggest management shakeup at the retailer, giving top shareholder Ryan Cohen more control.</p><p><blockquote>游戏驿站本月早些时候表示，George Sherman 将辞去首席执行官一职，这是该零售商最大的管理层变动，让大股东 Ryan Cohen 获得更多控制权。</blockquote></p><p>Cohen, whose RC Ventures owns nearly 13% of GameStop, is leading the company's transformation into an e-commerce firm that can compete with big retailers such as Walmart Inc, as well as technology companies like Microsoft Corp and Sony Corp.</p><p><blockquote>科恩的 RC Ventures 拥有游戏驿站近 13% 的股份，他正在领导该公司转型为一家电子商务公司，可以与沃尔玛等大型零售商以及微软和索尼公司等科技公司竞争。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2130071345","content_text":"GameStop Corp has raised $551 million through an equity offering as the videogame retailer accelerates its shift to e-commerce, sending its shares 9.5% higher in extended trading on Monday.The company, which was at the center of a Reddit-fueled trading frenzy earlier this year, said in a statement it had sold 3.5 million shares in the at-the-market offering.Based on Reuters calculation, the average price of the shares sold was $157.43. The company's stock has gained more than 850% this year thanks to a push by retail investors to drive up prices of heavily shorted stocks.GameStop said earlier this month George Sherman will step down as its chief executive officer in the biggest management shakeup at the retailer, giving top shareholder Ryan Cohen more control.Cohen, whose RC Ventures owns nearly 13% of GameStop, is leading the company's transformation into an e-commerce firm that can compete with big retailers such as Walmart Inc, as well as technology companies like Microsoft Corp and Sony Corp.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":991,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":830017797,"gmtCreate":1628993338719,"gmtModify":1633688125513,"author":{"id":"3572436349218639","authorId":"3572436349218639","name":"bzlim","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b2aafaf14823285f7393917b6ff4f54","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3572436349218639","idStr":"3572436349218639"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"From the estimate pe or ps ratio isnt it expensive?&nbsp;","listText":"From the estimate pe or ps ratio isnt it expensive?&nbsp;","text":"From the estimate pe or ps ratio isnt it expensive?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":11,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/830017797","repostId":"2159214569","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2159214569","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1628989290,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/2159214569?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-15 09:01","market":"us","language":"en","title":"How to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2159214569","media":"MarkeWatch","summary":"Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.So where does Nio $$","content":"<p>Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来可能是一家相对较小的公司。但投资者看好这家中国电动汽车制造商的前景。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459f713c5dfcf08752165d643a5f1463\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>A Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>上海市区的一家蔚来商店。（盖蒂图片社）</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.</p><p><blockquote>中国电动汽车制造商蔚来在美国不销售汽车，市值为 602 亿美元。按照这个标准，它比成立于1903年的福特汽车公司还要大。</blockquote></p><p> That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.</p><p><blockquote>作为投资者，这对您来说可能有意义——毕竟，蔚来是一家只销售电动汽车的创新型公司。福特是一家传统汽车制造商，正在努力迎头赶上，并最终全面过渡到电动汽车。蔚来的股价在过去一年上涨了两倍多，而福特的股价在过去十年暴跌后几乎翻了一番。</blockquote></p><p> So where does Nio <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(NIO)$</a>, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.</p><p><blockquote>那么蔚来在哪里<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(蔚来)$</a>周三股市收盘后公布了第二季度业绩，符合投资论点吗？下面的屏幕显示了其股票估值与汽车产量的比较，以及该估值与 2025 年的预计收益有何关系。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Doubling car production</b></p><p><blockquote><b>汽车产量翻倍</b></blockquote></p><p> For the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度，蔚来交付了21,896辆汽车，同比增长112%。增长令人印象深刻，但销售的车辆总数仍然相对较少。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:</p><p><blockquote>以下是按市值计算的 10 家最大汽车制造商，以及它们第二季度的销量或交付量（如果两者都有报告，以较高者为准）以及表格下方的附加颜色：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9e9aed76c94544dbe44cde9f7c8bebc\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"761\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> You can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc.&nbsp;and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table>你可以看到，这些估值是关于未来的，届时电动汽车领域的创新者——这份名单上的特斯拉和蔚来——可能（也可能不会）变得与传统企业一样大。</blockquote></p><p> For now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine&nbsp;vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.</p><p><blockquote>目前，福特生产的主要是内燃机汽车，几乎是蔚来生产电动汽车的 35 倍。</blockquote></p><p> One thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.</p><p><blockquote>需要注意的一件事是，传统汽车制造商并非都以相同的方式报告其销量。大多数不会突破电动汽车销售。</blockquote></p><p> Among those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:</p><p><blockquote>其中，定义各不相同。例如，丰田汽车公司（7203.TO）报告称，第二季度“电动汽车”销量占汽车总销量的26.6%。但该类别包括：</blockquote></p><p> For Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.</p><p><blockquote>对于丰田来说，纯电动汽车仅占第二季度销量的0.2%，而它们占蔚来和特斯拉销量的100%。丰田的插电式混合动力汽车销量占总销量的1.4%。</blockquote></p><p> Volkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.</p><p><blockquote>大众汽车公司报告称，电动汽车销量包括插电混合动力汽车（占第二季度销量的 6.7%）和纯电动汽车（占总销量的 4.4%）。这些数字令人印象深刻：合计11.1%。</blockquote></p><p> For Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.</p><p><blockquote>对于 Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft（更广为人知的名称是 BWM Group）来说，第二季度电动汽车交付明细尚未公布，但 2021 年上半年，交付了 153,243 辆全电动或插电式混合动力汽车，占总交付量的 11.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to earnings estimates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值与盈利预测</b></blockquote></p><p> For companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.</p><p><blockquote>对于处于早期阶段的公司来说，市盈率的比较可能意义不大。这些公司关注的是增长而不是利润。亚马逊公司就是一个例子。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(亚马逊)$</a>几十年来，该公司一直以高市盈率为代价，努力扩展到新的业务领域。</blockquote></p><p> A high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.</p><p><blockquote>高市盈率可以反映投资者对创新的热情，就电动汽车而言，也可以反映行业转型的政治共识。因此，蔚来和特斯拉的市盈率远高于传统汽车制造商。</blockquote></p><p> Then again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.</p><p><blockquote>话又说回来，非常低的市盈率可能表明投资者对老牌制造商过于蔑视，因为他们利用传统汽车持续大量销售的现金流来资助电动汽车的开发。机会可能会被强调。</blockquote></p><p> Normally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.</p><p><blockquote>通常，远期市盈率的计算方法是将股价除以 12 个月每股收益的滚动共识估计。这并不适用于此处列出的所有公司，因此我们使用 2022 年净利润的共识估计。</blockquote></p><p> First, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:</p><p><blockquote>首先，以下是基于当前市值和 FactSet 调查的分析师对 2022 年普遍预期的市盈率。该表包括到 2025 年的年度预测，以及基于当前市值和 2025 年预测的市盈率：</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459439c822252d09b3dfb73cc5d51211\" tg-width=\"1058\" tg-height=\"743\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> Nio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&amp;P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来预计将于 2023 年实现盈利。展望2024年，其远期市盈率低于特斯拉。为了正确看待未来的市盈率估值，标普500指数的交易加权为 2022 年每股收益共识预期的 20.5 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to sales</b></p><p><blockquote><b>销售额估值</b></blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> Forward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table>对于利润或净亏损较低的早期公司来说，远期销售价格估算可能更有用。话又说回来，同样的扭曲也适用：投资者现在喜欢纯粹的电动汽车制造商，当你考虑到蔚来的股价在过去一年里上涨了两倍多，而特斯拉的股价上涨了150%时，他们可能会为它们支付过高的价格。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:</p><p><blockquote>以下是一组类似的驱动市销率的数据，再次使用当前市值（在本文顶部的第一个表格中）和以百万美元为单位的全年共识估计值：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8c0b7d002e07914e42fcdf0e624b25c\" tg-width=\"1051\" tg-height=\"668\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> For reference, the S&amp;P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.</p><p><blockquote>作为参考，标普500的交易价格是其 2022 年销量普遍预期的 2.7 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> <b>Analysts' opinions</b></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table><b>分析师意见</b></blockquote></p><p> Here's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. For companies with primary listings outside the U.S., the local tickers are used. All share prices and targets are in local currencies:</p><p><blockquote>以下是 FactSet 调查的分析师对 10 家汽车制造商的意见摘要。对于主要在美国境外上市的公司，使用当地股票代码。所有股价和目标均以当地货币计算：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/32f38063eabf2e93f73561a0454a44ac\" tg-width=\"1059\" tg-height=\"639\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>How to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nHow to value Nio's stock compared to Tesla, VW, Ford and other rivals<blockquote>与特斯拉、大众、福特和其他竞争对手相比，如何评估蔚来的股票</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">MarkeWatch</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-15 09:01</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来可能是一家相对较小的公司。但投资者看好这家中国电动汽车制造商的前景。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459f713c5dfcf08752165d643a5f1463\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"525\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>A Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>上海市区的一家蔚来商店。（盖蒂图片社）</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Chinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.</p><p><blockquote>中国电动汽车制造商蔚来在美国不销售汽车，市值为 602 亿美元。按照这个标准，它比成立于1903年的福特汽车公司还要大。</blockquote></p><p> That might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.</p><p><blockquote>作为投资者，这对您来说可能有意义——毕竟，蔚来是一家只销售电动汽车的创新型公司。福特是一家传统汽车制造商，正在努力迎头赶上，并最终全面过渡到电动汽车。蔚来的股价在过去一年上涨了两倍多，而福特的股价在过去十年暴跌后几乎翻了一番。</blockquote></p><p> So where does Nio <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(NIO)$</a>, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.</p><p><blockquote>那么蔚来在哪里<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(蔚来)$</a>周三股市收盘后公布了第二季度业绩，符合投资论点吗？下面的屏幕显示了其股票估值与汽车产量的比较，以及该估值与 2025 年的预计收益有何关系。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Doubling car production</b></p><p><blockquote><b>汽车产量翻倍</b></blockquote></p><p> For the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度，蔚来交付了21,896辆汽车，同比增长112%。增长令人印象深刻，但销售的车辆总数仍然相对较少。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:</p><p><blockquote>以下是按市值计算的 10 家最大汽车制造商，以及它们第二季度的销量或交付量（如果两者都有报告，以较高者为准）以及表格下方的附加颜色：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9e9aed76c94544dbe44cde9f7c8bebc\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"761\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> You can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc.&nbsp;and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table>你可以看到，这些估值是关于未来的，届时电动汽车领域的创新者——这份名单上的特斯拉和蔚来——可能（也可能不会）变得与传统企业一样大。</blockquote></p><p> For now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine&nbsp;vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.</p><p><blockquote>目前，福特生产的主要是内燃机汽车，几乎是蔚来生产电动汽车的 35 倍。</blockquote></p><p> One thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.</p><p><blockquote>需要注意的一件事是，传统汽车制造商并非都以相同的方式报告其销量。大多数不会突破电动汽车销售。</blockquote></p><p> Among those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:</p><p><blockquote>其中，定义各不相同。例如，丰田汽车公司（7203.TO）报告称，第二季度“电动汽车”销量占汽车总销量的26.6%。但该类别包括：</blockquote></p><p> For Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.</p><p><blockquote>对于丰田来说，纯电动汽车仅占第二季度销量的0.2%，而它们占蔚来和特斯拉销量的100%。丰田的插电式混合动力汽车销量占总销量的1.4%。</blockquote></p><p> Volkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.</p><p><blockquote>大众汽车公司报告称，电动汽车销量包括插电混合动力汽车（占第二季度销量的 6.7%）和纯电动汽车（占总销量的 4.4%）。这些数字令人印象深刻：合计11.1%。</blockquote></p><p> For Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.</p><p><blockquote>对于 Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft（更广为人知的名称是 BWM Group）来说，第二季度电动汽车交付明细尚未公布，但 2021 年上半年，交付了 153,243 辆全电动或插电式混合动力汽车，占总交付量的 11.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to earnings estimates</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值与盈利预测</b></blockquote></p><p> For companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.</p><p><blockquote>对于处于早期阶段的公司来说，市盈率的比较可能意义不大。这些公司关注的是增长而不是利润。亚马逊公司就是一个例子。<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(亚马逊)$</a>几十年来，该公司一直以高市盈率为代价，努力扩展到新的业务领域。</blockquote></p><p> A high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.</p><p><blockquote>高市盈率可以反映投资者对创新的热情，就电动汽车而言，也可以反映行业转型的政治共识。因此，蔚来和特斯拉的市盈率远高于传统汽车制造商。</blockquote></p><p> Then again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.</p><p><blockquote>话又说回来，非常低的市盈率可能表明投资者对老牌制造商过于蔑视，因为他们利用传统汽车持续大量销售的现金流来资助电动汽车的开发。机会可能会被强调。</blockquote></p><p> Normally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.</p><p><blockquote>通常，远期市盈率的计算方法是将股价除以 12 个月每股收益的滚动共识估计。这并不适用于此处列出的所有公司，因此我们使用 2022 年净利润的共识估计。</blockquote></p><p> First, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:</p><p><blockquote>首先，以下是基于当前市值和 FactSet 调查的分析师对 2022 年普遍预期的市盈率。该表包括到 2025 年的年度预测，以及基于当前市值和 2025 年预测的市盈率：</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/459439c822252d09b3dfb73cc5d51211\" tg-width=\"1058\" tg-height=\"743\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> Nio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&amp;P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来预计将于 2023 年实现盈利。展望2024年，其远期市盈率低于特斯拉。为了正确看待未来的市盈率估值，标普500指数的交易加权为 2022 年每股收益共识预期的 20.5 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation to sales</b></p><p><blockquote><b>销售额估值</b></blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> Forward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.</p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table>对于利润或净亏损较低的早期公司来说，远期销售价格估算可能更有用。话又说回来，同样的扭曲也适用：投资者现在喜欢纯粹的电动汽车制造商，当你考虑到蔚来的股价在过去一年里上涨了两倍多，而特斯拉的股价上涨了150%时，他们可能会为它们支付过高的价格。</blockquote></p><p> Here's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:</p><p><blockquote>以下是一组类似的驱动市销率的数据，再次使用当前市值（在本文顶部的第一个表格中）和以百万美元为单位的全年共识估计值：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8c0b7d002e07914e42fcdf0e624b25c\" tg-width=\"1051\" tg-height=\"668\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> For reference, the S&amp;P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.</p><p><blockquote>作为参考，标普500的交易价格是其 2022 年销量普遍预期的 2.7 倍。</blockquote></p><p> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table> <b>Analysts' opinions</b></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table><b>分析师意见</b></blockquote></p><p> Here's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. For companies with primary listings outside the U.S., the local tickers are used. All share prices and targets are in local currencies:</p><p><blockquote>以下是 FactSet 调查的分析师对 10 家汽车制造商的意见摘要。对于主要在美国境外上市的公司，使用当地股票代码。所有股价和目标均以当地货币计算：</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/32f38063eabf2e93f73561a0454a44ac\" tg-width=\"1059\" tg-height=\"639\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"> <table>  <tbody>   <tr></tr>  </tbody> </table></p><p><blockquote><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nio-releases-earnings-wednesday-heres-how-to-value-its-stock-compared-to-tesla-ford-and-other-rivals-11628716814?mod=mw_quote_news\">MarkeWatch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"HMC":"本田汽车","GM":"通用汽车","TSLA":"特斯拉","F":"福特汽车","NIO":"蔚来","STLA":"Stellantis NV"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nio-releases-earnings-wednesday-heres-how-to-value-its-stock-compared-to-tesla-ford-and-other-rivals-11628716814?mod=mw_quote_news","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2159214569","content_text":"Nio may be a relatively small company. But investors are bullish on the Chinese electric-vehicle maker's prospects.\nA Nio store in downtown Shanghai. (Getty Images)\nChinese electric-vehicle maker Nio Inc., which sells no cars in the U.S., has a market capitalization of $60.2 billion. By that measure, it is larger than Ford Motor Co., which was founded in 1903.\nThat might make sense to you as an investor -- after all, Nio is an innovative company that sells only electric vehicles. Ford is a legacy auto maker that is working to catch up and eventually make a full transition to electric vehicles. Shares of Nio have more than tripled in the past year, while Ford's have almost doubled after cratering in the previous decade.\nSo where does Nio $(NIO)$, which reported second-quarter results after the stock market closes Wednesday, fit in an investment thesis? Below are screens showing how its stock valuation compares to vehicle production, and how that valuation relates to projected earnings through 2025.\nDoubling car production\nFor the second quarter, Nio delivered 21,896 vehicles for a 112% increase from a year earlier. The growth is impressive, but the total number of vehicles sold is still relatively small.\nHere's a look at the 10 largest auto makers by market capitalization, along with their second-quarter sales or delivery numbers (whichever was higher, if both were reported) and additional color below the table:\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYou can see that those valuations are about the future, when innovators in the EV space -- Tesla Inc. and Nio, on this list -- may (or may not) become as large as legacy players.\nFor now, Ford churns out mostly internal combustion engine vehicles at nearly 35 times the rate that Nio makes EVs.\nOne thing to be aware of is that the legacy auto makers don't all report their unit sales the same way. Most don't break out electric vehicle sales.\nAmong those that do, definitions vary. For example, Toyota Motor Corp. (7203.TO) reported that \"electrified vehicle\" sales made up 26.6% of total auto sales during the second quarter. But that category includes:\nFor Toyota, BEV made up only 0.2% of second-quarter sales, while they accounted for 100% of sales for Nio and Tesla. Toyota's PHEV sales made up 1.4% of the total.\nVolkswagen AG reports electric-vehicle sales as including PHEV, which accounted for 6.7% of second-quarter sales, or BEV, which made up 4.4% of total sales. Those are impressive numbers: a combined 11.1%.\nFor Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft , better known as BWM Group, a second-quarter breakdown of electric-vehicle deliveries isn't yet available, but for the first half of 2021, 153,243 all-electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles were delivered, or 11.4% of total deliveries.\nValuation to earnings estimates\nFor companies at early stages, comparisons of price-to-earnings ratios may not mean very much. Such companies are focusing on growth rather than profits. An example of this has been Amazon.com Inc. $(AMZN)$, which has traded at a high P/E for decades as it has worked to expand into new lines of business, at the expense of the bottom line.\nA high P/E ratio can reflect investors' enthusiasm for innovation and in the case of EVs, a political consensus for transforming the industry. So Nio and Tesla trade at much higher P/E ratios than the legacy auto makers.\nThen again, very low P/E may show too much contempt among investors for the older manufacturers, as they use their cash flow from continuing massive sales of traditional vehicles to fund their development of EVs. Opportunities may be highlighted.\nNormally a forward P/E ratio is calculated by dividing the share price by a rolling consensus estimate of earnings per share for 12 months. This isn't available for all the companies listed here, so we're using consensus estimates for net income for calendar 2022.\nFirst, here are P/E ratios based on current market caps and consensus 2022 estimates among analysts polled by FactSet. The table includes the annual estimates going out to 2025, and also a P/E based on current market caps and the 2025 estimates:\n\nNio is expected to become profitable in 2023. Looking out to 2024, its forward P/E is lower than that of Tesla. To put the forward P/E valuations in perspective, the S&P 500 Index trades for a weighted 20.5 times consensus 2022 EPS estimates.\nValuation to sales\n\n\n\n\n\n\nForward price-to-sales estimates might be more useful for early-stage companies that are showing low profits or net losses. Then again, the same distortions apply: Investors love the pure-play EV makers now, and may be paying too much for them when you consider that shares of Nio have more than tripled over the past year, while Tesla's stock has risen 150%.\nHere's a similar set of data driving price-to-sale ratios, again using current market caps (in the first table at the top of this article) and consensus full-calendar-year estimates in millions of U.S. dollars:\n\nFor reference, the S&P 500 trades for 2.7 times its consensus 2022 sales estimate.\n\n\n\n\n\nAnalysts' opinions\nHere's a summary of opinion of the 10 auto makers among analysts polled by FactSet. 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