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Upstart Is a Great Company With a Very High Valuation<blockquote>Upstart 是一家估值非常高的伟大公司</blockquote>
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2021-10-26
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2021-10-26
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The PC slowdown shouldn't hurt Microsoft earnings, and here's why<blockquote>个人电脑放缓应该不会损害微软的盈利,原因如下</blockquote>
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2021-10-26
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AMD earnings look to again succeed where Intel disappointed<blockquote>AMD 盈利有望再次取得成功,英特尔令人失望</blockquote>
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2021-09-26
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3 Stocks I'm Never Selling<blockquote>我从不出售的 3 只股票</blockquote>
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Alibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote>
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2021-07-27
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Palantir: Prepare To Be Disappointed<blockquote>Palantir:做好失望的准备</blockquote>
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2021-07-26
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2021-07-24
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Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗?这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>
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In fact, back in April, I wrote a very bullish article on the shares,stating that the name ” is a buy for growth investors”...</p><p><blockquote><div>Upstart(纳斯达克股票代码:UPST)的股票确实有很多值得喜欢的地方。事实上,早在4月份,我就写了一篇非常看好这只股票的文章,说这个名字“是成长型投资者的买入”...</div></blockquote></p><p> <a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/10/upstart-is-a-great-company-with-a-very-high-valuation/\">网页链接</a> </div> </p><p><blockquote><a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/10/upstart-is-a-great-company-with-a-very-high-valuation/\">网页连接</a></blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/10/upstart-is-a-great-company-with-a-very-high-valuation/\">InvestorPlace</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"UPST":"Upstart Holdings, Inc."},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/10/upstart-is-a-great-company-with-a-very-high-valuation/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1174706442","content_text":"There’s really a tremendous amount to like about Upstart(NASDAQ:UPST) stock. In fact, back in April, I wrote a very bullish article on the shares,stating that the name ” is a buy for growth investors” and touting the high value of the company’s highly specified artificial intelligence technology for lenders. Since my article was published, the shares have more than tripled.\nWith Upstart continuing to rapidly add more banks to its customer base and beginning to enter the auto lending space, I am sure that it has a tremendous room to grow. And the company’s financial results continue to be stupendous.\nTwo Ways to Handle UPST Stock\nNevertheless, given the current, extremely high valuation of UPST stock, I think that the shares are likely to fall sharply on even a small hiccup by the company, the banking sector, or the stock market. Consequently, I would advise investors to wait for a substantial pullback in the shares before taking a bullish position in them.\nAs an alternate approach, however, long-term investors could consider taking a relatively small, bullish position in the shares now. In case there is no market or sector pullback or problems with the company, this would enable UPST stock to continue to rally.\nThen, if the shares do subsequently drop sharply on weakness, these investors could take a much bigger, bullish position, lowering their average costs and leaving them very well-positioned.\nUpstart’s Booming Business and Its Growth Outlook\nIn the second quarter, the AI software maker’s revenue soared 60% year-over-year to $194 million. The company’s net income, excluding certain items, came in at $37.3 million. This is in comparison to a loss of $3.7 million in the identical quarter a year earlier.\n“Bank partners originated 286,864 loans, totaling $2.80 billion, across our platform in the second quarter, up 1,605% from the same quarter of the prior year,” the company stated in its earnings press release. For all of 2021, Upstart expects its sales to soar 221% YOY to about $750 million.\nAs of the end of Q2, the company’s customer base totaled only 25, giving it a great deal of room to continue its tremendous growth. Moreover, Upstart CEO Dave Girouard, speaking on the company’s earnings conference call, noted that one of the banks that uses its platform elected to no longer automatically refuse to provide loans to consumers whose credit score did not meet a minimum level.\nThat information made me realize that, over time, banks could decide to stop using credit scores altogether and rely solely on Upstart’s platform. Such a development would likely enable Upstart to increase its prices because the banks would become much more reliant on the company’s platform and have excess funds as a result of no longer having to pay the credit rating agencies.\nFinally, Upstart has entered the auto lending market this year.According to Girouard, the auto lending space is “at least 6x larger than personal loans and at least as inefficient.” On Oct.6, the company announced the launch of Upstart Auto Retail software. The product uses AI to evaluate potential car buyers’ creditworthiness.\n“With the addition of Upstart-powered loans, dealerships will be able to instantly offer affordable financing to more of their customers,” Upstart reported.\nGoing forward, Upstart has a great deal of room to grow in the personal loan and auto loan sectors.\nA Very High Valuation\nUPST stock is trading at a forward price-sales ratio of nearly 28 times, and its forward price-earnings ratio is about 220 times. Those are very high valuations. Often, stocks with valuations that elevated end up undergoing a steep correction, if the company’s financial results miss analysts’ average outlook by a small amount.\nIn fact, the shares’ very high valuation led Bank of America analyst Nat Schindler to downgrade the shares to“underperform” from “buy.” on Oct. 18. The analyst cut his rating on the share because he thinks that “the stock’s near-term upside {is} priced in,” Seeking Alpha reported.\nThe Bottom Line on UPST Stock\nUpstart has a very bright future, but the shares are pricey now. I recommend that investors utilize one of the two approaches towards the shares that I described above.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"UPST":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2636,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":852057619,"gmtCreate":1635227247104,"gmtModify":1635227314990,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Cool] ","listText":"[Cool] ","text":"[Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/852057619","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2473,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":852057120,"gmtCreate":1635227234510,"gmtModify":1635227314698,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Cool] ","listText":"[Cool] ","text":"[Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/852057120","repostId":"2177489964","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2177489964","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1635042148,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/2177489964?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-24 10:22","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The PC slowdown shouldn't hurt Microsoft earnings, and here's why<blockquote>个人电脑放缓应该不会损害微软的盈利,原因如下</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2177489964","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"Growth from Azure and other cloud products should mask over any disappointment from supply-chain iss","content":"<p>Growth from Azure and other cloud products should mask over any disappointment from supply-chain issues affecting PC sales</p><p><blockquote>Azure 和其他云产品的增长应该会掩盖影响 PC 销售的供应链问题带来的任何失望</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/958e56d50bc03c5ef2195a2a879bec71\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"467\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Microsoft Corp. is scheduled to release fiscal first-quarter earnings after the bell on Tuesday.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>微软定于周二盘后发布第一财季收益。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> The slowdown in personal computer sales due to supply-chain issues in recent months would have hurt Microsoft Corp. in past years, but the company's pivot to cloud computing and cloud software should insulate it from any earnings fallout.</p><p><blockquote>近几个月来,由于供应链问题导致个人电脑销售放缓,这可能会对微软公司造成损害,但该公司转向云计算和云软件应该会使其免受任何盈利影响。</blockquote></p><p> Microsoft is scheduled to report its fiscal first-quarter earnings on Tuesday afternoon, as it rolls out its new Windows 11 operating system and PC makers struggle to deliver new machines. While the Microsoft of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer would have faced a lot of Wall Street pessimism if PC shipments were mangled and a new operating system was not quickly adopted, Satya Nadella's Microsoft should be just fine.</p><p><blockquote>微软定于周二下午公布第一财季收益,因为该公司将推出新的 Windows 11 操作系统,而个人电脑制造商正在努力交付新机器。如果个人电脑出货量中断,新的操作系统没有迅速采用,比尔盖茨和史蒂夫鲍尔默的微软将会面临华尔街的很多悲观情绪,但萨蒂亚纳德拉的微软应该没问题。</blockquote></p><p> That is because analysts and investors are mostly focused on Azure, Microsoft's cloud-computing answer to Amazon.com Inc.'s Amazon Web Services, as well as cloud-software offerings, decreasing the importance of Microsoft's PC business.</p><p><blockquote>这是因为分析师和投资者大多关注 Azure(微软对亚马逊公司 Amazon Web Services 的云计算解决方案)以及云软件产品,从而降低了微软 PC 业务的重要性。</blockquote></p><p> \"Sustained digital transformation momentum should offset the impact from mixed PC unit shipment estimates from IDC and Gartner,\" <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTLW\">Morgan Stanley</a> analysts wrote in a preview of the report, later adding, \"While our negative growth outlook for Windows OEM pressures our longer term earnings expectation for Microsoft, we also note Windows OEM overall represents a decreasing mix of overall Microsoft revenue and gross profit.\"</p><p><blockquote>“持续的数字化转型势头应该会抵消 IDC 和 Gartner 混合 PC 单位出货量估计的影响,”<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTLW\">摩根士丹利</a>分析师在报告预览中写道,后来补充道:“虽然我们对 Windows OEM 的负增长前景给我们对微软的长期盈利预期带来了压力,但我们也注意到 Windows OEM 整体微软收入和毛利润的组合正在下降。”</blockquote></p><p> Azure has made sure that Windows' importance to Microsoft has decreased. The fast-growing cloud business is at the top of every analyst note about Microsoft, and analysts expect revenue to grow in the mid-40% range. (Microsoft does not disclose Azure performance except for percentage gain, despite AWS and Google (GOOGL) Cloud providing full revenue and operating profits for their competitive services).</p><p><blockquote>Azure 确保 Windows 对微软的重要性有所下降。快速增长的云业务是所有关于微软的分析师笔记的首要内容,分析师预计收入将增长 40% 左右。(尽管 AWS 和谷歌(GOOGL)云为其竞争服务提供了全部收入和运营利润,但微软除了百分比收益外,没有披露 Azure 的表现)。</blockquote></p><p> \"Fundamentally, ramping contribution from previously signed long-term Azure deals, continued Cloud migrations post-COVID, Microsoft's intensifying focus on Cloud verticalization and strong Microsoft 365 seat growth can sustain durable longer-term Azure growth,\" the Morgan Stanley analysts wrote.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利分析师写道:“从根本上说,之前签署的长期 Azure 交易、新冠疫情后持续的云迁移、微软对云垂直化的日益关注以及微软 365 席位的强劲增长可以维持 Azure 的持久长期增长。”</blockquote></p><p> There are factors that could add to Microsoft's growth as well, especially in the forecast. The $19.7 billion acquisition of health-care-focused company Nuance is expected to close before the end of the calendar year, and Microsoft recently disclosed that its cloud-based revenue would dump into the same revenue bucket as Azure.</p><p><blockquote>也有一些因素可能会促进微软的增长,尤其是在预测方面。以 197 亿美元收购专注于医疗保健的公司 Nuance 的交易预计将在今年年底前完成,微软最近透露,其基于云的收入将与 Azure 归入同一收入桶。</blockquote></p><p> While Microsoft did not disclose exactly how much that would mean, UBS analysts said in September that prior Nuance disclosures and a call they had with the company's investor relations team led them to estimate that about 46% of Nuance's revenue would be cloud-based. They estimated that would mean roughly $91 million in additional sales for Microsoft's cloud division in the fiscal second quarter, if the full quarter were to be included.</p><p><blockquote>虽然微软没有透露这到底意味着什么,但瑞银分析师在9月份表示,Nuance之前的披露以及他们与该公司投资者关系团队的看涨期权使他们估计Nuance约46%的收入将基于云。他们估计,如果包括整个季度,这将意味着微软云部门在第二财季的额外销售额约为 9100 万美元。</blockquote></p><p> Another bump could be coming in the future from increased prices for Microsoft's most popular cloud software offering, Office 365. Microsoft is increasing prices more than 10% across the board for the product, which the company described as \"the first substantive pricing update since we launched Office 365 a decade ago,\" which also gives analysts confidence that Microsoft can withstand any supply-chain pressures on the PC market.</p><p><blockquote>微软最受欢迎的云软件产品Office 365的价格上涨可能会在未来带来另一个上涨。微软将该产品的价格全面提高了10%以上,该公司将其描述为“自十年前推出Office 365以来的首次实质性定价更新”,这也让分析师相信微软能够承受PC市场的任何供应链压力。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What to expect</b></p><p><blockquote><b>期待什么</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>Earnings:</b> Analysts on average expect Microsoft to report earnings of $2.08 a share, up from $1.82 a share a year ago. Contributors to Estimize -- a crowdsourcing platform that gathers estimates from Wall Street analysts as well as buy-side analysts, fund managers, company executives, academics and others -- predict earnings of $2.22 a share.</p><p><blockquote><b>收益:</b>分析师平均预计微软每股收益为 2.08 美元,高于一年前的每股 1.82 美元。Estimize 是一个众包平台,收集华尔街分析师以及买方分析师、基金经理、公司高管、学者和其他人的估计,其贡献者预测每股收益为 2.22 美元。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Revenue:</b> Analysts on average were modeling sales of $43.93 billion, which would be an improvement from $37.15 billion a year ago, after Microsoft forecast revenue of $43.3 billion to $44.2 billion. Estimize contributors expect $44.88 billion in sales.</p><p><blockquote><b>收入:</b>分析师平均预测销售额为 439.3 亿美元,比一年前的 371.5 亿美元有所改善,此前微软预测收入为 433 亿美元至 442 亿美元。Estimize 贡献者预计销售额为 448.8 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> Analyst expect $16.52 billion in sales from the \"Intelligent Cloud\" segment, after Microsoft guided for $16.4 billion to $16.65 billion; $14.67 billion in sales from the cloud-software-focused \"Productivity and Business Solutions\" segment, after a forecast of $14.5 billion to $14.75 billion; and $12.72 billion from \"More Personal Computing,\" after guidance for sales of $12.4 billion to $12.8 billion.</p><p><blockquote>分析师预计“智能云”部门的销售额为 165.2 亿美元,此前微软的预期为 164 亿美元至 166.5 亿美元;专注于云软件的“生产力和业务解决方案”部门的销售额为 146.7 亿美元,此前预测为 145 亿至 147.5 亿美元;在指导销售额为 124 亿美元至 128 亿美元之后,“更多个人计算”的收入为 127.2 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <b>Stock movement: </b>Microsoft shares have declined in the session following earnings releases in four of the past five quarters, though the last decline was only by 0.1%. The stock has increased 8.1% in the past three months and 45.2% in the past year, as the S&P 500 index has grown by 4.1% and 31.6% in those periods, respectively.</p><p><blockquote><b>股票变动:</b>在过去五个季度中的四个季度公布财报后,微软股价在盘中下跌,尽管上次下跌仅 0.1%。该股在过去三个月上涨了 8.1%,在过去一年上涨了 45.2%,而标普500指数在此期间分别上涨了 4.1% 和 31.6%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What analysts are saying</b></p><p><blockquote><b>分析师怎么说</b></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are in pretty universal agreement about Microsoft's current position. According to FactSet tracking, 33 out of 36 analysts rate the stock the equivalent of a buy, while the other three rate it as a hold.</p><p><blockquote>分析师们对微软目前的立场基本达成一致。根据 FactSet 跟踪,36 名分析师中有 33 名将该股评级为相当于买入,而另外三名分析师将其评级为持有。</blockquote></p><p> \"Currently trading at 27x our CY23 GAAP EPS estimates, Microsoft represents a rare combination of strong secular positioning and reasonable valuation within the software space,\" wrote the Morgan Stanley analysts, who rate the shares overweight with a price target of $331.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利分析师写道:“微软目前的交易价格是我们 2023 财年 GAAP 每股收益预期的 27 倍,代表了软件领域强大的长期定位和合理估值的罕见结合。”他们将该股跑赢大盘评级为 331 美元。</blockquote></p><p> The once concern seems to be the durability of the current growth trajectory, which is why the Nuance acquisition and increased pricing of Office 365 is seen as key to the stock continuing to rise.</p><p><blockquote>曾经令人担忧的似乎是当前增长轨迹的持久性,这就是为什么 Nuance 收购和 Office 365 定价上涨被视为该股持续上涨的关键。</blockquote></p><p> \"Comps get progressively tougher throughout FY22, which should be met by Microsoft's durable growth portfolio of Azure/Security/Teams,\" wrote Jeffries analysts, who have an outperform rating and recently raised their price target to $375 from $345. \"Key items to watch are elevated expectations (Azure high 40s reported), integration with Nuance and increased security investments.\"</p><p><blockquote>杰弗里斯分析师写道:“整个 2022 财年,竞争将变得越来越艰难,微软 Azure/Security/Teams 的可持续增长产品组合应该会满足这一要求。”他们的评级为跑赢大盘,最近将目标价从 345 美元上调至 375 美元。“需要关注的关键项目是提高期望(据报道 Azure 高达 40 年代)、与 Nuance 的集成以及增加安全投资。”</blockquote></p><p> Microsoft has benefitted from the pandemic, as companies have relied on cloud-computing power and software to keep teams connected while working remotely. But Microsoft bull and Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives does not see a return to the office as a sign that the boom will end.</p><p><blockquote>微软从疫情中受益,因为公司依靠云计算能力和软件在远程工作时保持团队联系。但微软·布尔和韦德布什分析师 Daniel Ives 并不认为重返办公室是繁荣即将结束的迹象。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe the Street's view of moderating cloud growth on the other side of this WFH cycle is contrary to the deal activity Microsoft is seeing in the field,\" Ives, with an outperform rating and $375 price target, wrote in a preview of the report. \"While we have seen the momentum of this backdrop in the last few years, we believe deal flow looks incrementally strong (Office 365/Azure combo deals in particular) heading into FY22 as we estimate that Microsoft is still only 35% through penetrating its unparalleled installed base on the cloud transition.\"</p><p><blockquote>艾夫斯在报告的预览中写道:“我们认为,华尔街关于在这个居家办公周期的另一边放缓云增长的观点与微软在该领域看到的交易活动相反。”他的评级为跑赢大盘,目标价为 375 美元。“虽然我们在过去几年中看到了这一背景的势头,但我们相信,进入 2022 财年,交易流看起来会逐渐强劲(特别是 Office 365/Azure 组合交易),因为我们估计微软仍只有 35% 通过渗透其无与伦比的安装基础云过渡。”</blockquote></p><p> Stifel analysts, with a buy rating and $325 price target, concurred.</p><p><blockquote>Stifel 分析师给予买入评级,目标价为 325 美元,对此表示同意。</blockquote></p><p> \"We continue to believe that the pandemic is forcing organizations to accelerate the pace of their cloud migrations and that Microsoft remains a key beneficiary of this modernization spend, especially around large new deal momentum, as its broad stack enables it to capture Tier 1 workloads previously out of reach,\" they wrote.</p><p><blockquote>“我们仍然相信,大流行正在迫使组织加快云迁移的步伐,而微软仍然是这种现代化支出的主要受益者,特别是在大型新交易势头方面,因为其广泛的堆栈使其能够捕获以前遥不可及的一级工作负载,”他们写道。</blockquote></p><p> The average price target on Microsoft stock as of Friday afternoon was $335.47, roughly 8.5% higher than the going rate.</p><p><blockquote>截至周五下午,微软股票的平均目标价为 335.47 美元,比现行价格高出约 8.5%。</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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While the Microsoft of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer would have faced a lot of Wall Street pessimism if PC shipments were mangled and a new operating system was not quickly adopted, Satya Nadella's Microsoft should be just fine.</p><p><blockquote>微软定于周二下午公布第一财季收益,因为该公司将推出新的 Windows 11 操作系统,而个人电脑制造商正在努力交付新机器。如果个人电脑出货量中断,新的操作系统没有迅速采用,比尔盖茨和史蒂夫鲍尔默的微软将会面临华尔街的很多悲观情绪,但萨蒂亚纳德拉的微软应该没问题。</blockquote></p><p> That is because analysts and investors are mostly focused on Azure, Microsoft's cloud-computing answer to Amazon.com Inc.'s Amazon Web Services, as well as cloud-software offerings, decreasing the importance of Microsoft's PC business.</p><p><blockquote>这是因为分析师和投资者大多关注 Azure(微软对亚马逊公司 Amazon Web Services 的云计算解决方案)以及云软件产品,从而降低了微软 PC 业务的重要性。</blockquote></p><p> \"Sustained digital transformation momentum should offset the impact from mixed PC unit shipment estimates from IDC and Gartner,\" <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTLW\">Morgan Stanley</a> analysts wrote in a preview of the report, later adding, \"While our negative growth outlook for Windows OEM pressures our longer term earnings expectation for Microsoft, we also note Windows OEM overall represents a decreasing mix of overall Microsoft revenue and gross profit.\"</p><p><blockquote>“持续的数字化转型势头应该会抵消 IDC 和 Gartner 混合 PC 单位出货量估计的影响,”<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSTLW\">摩根士丹利</a>分析师在报告预览中写道,后来补充道:“虽然我们对 Windows OEM 的负增长前景给我们对微软的长期盈利预期带来了压力,但我们也注意到 Windows OEM 整体微软收入和毛利润的组合正在下降。”</blockquote></p><p> Azure has made sure that Windows' importance to Microsoft has decreased. The fast-growing cloud business is at the top of every analyst note about Microsoft, and analysts expect revenue to grow in the mid-40% range. (Microsoft does not disclose Azure performance except for percentage gain, despite AWS and Google (GOOGL) Cloud providing full revenue and operating profits for their competitive services).</p><p><blockquote>Azure 确保 Windows 对微软的重要性有所下降。快速增长的云业务是所有关于微软的分析师笔记的首要内容,分析师预计收入将增长 40% 左右。(尽管 AWS 和谷歌(GOOGL)云为其竞争服务提供了全部收入和运营利润,但微软除了百分比收益外,没有披露 Azure 的表现)。</blockquote></p><p> \"Fundamentally, ramping contribution from previously signed long-term Azure deals, continued Cloud migrations post-COVID, Microsoft's intensifying focus on Cloud verticalization and strong Microsoft 365 seat growth can sustain durable longer-term Azure growth,\" the Morgan Stanley analysts wrote.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利分析师写道:“从根本上说,之前签署的长期 Azure 交易、新冠疫情后持续的云迁移、微软对云垂直化的日益关注以及微软 365 席位的强劲增长可以维持 Azure 的持久长期增长。”</blockquote></p><p> There are factors that could add to Microsoft's growth as well, especially in the forecast. The $19.7 billion acquisition of health-care-focused company Nuance is expected to close before the end of the calendar year, and Microsoft recently disclosed that its cloud-based revenue would dump into the same revenue bucket as Azure.</p><p><blockquote>也有一些因素可能会促进微软的增长,尤其是在预测方面。以 197 亿美元收购专注于医疗保健的公司 Nuance 的交易预计将在今年年底前完成,微软最近透露,其基于云的收入将与 Azure 归入同一收入桶。</blockquote></p><p> While Microsoft did not disclose exactly how much that would mean, UBS analysts said in September that prior Nuance disclosures and a call they had with the company's investor relations team led them to estimate that about 46% of Nuance's revenue would be cloud-based. They estimated that would mean roughly $91 million in additional sales for Microsoft's cloud division in the fiscal second quarter, if the full quarter were to be included.</p><p><blockquote>虽然微软没有透露这到底意味着什么,但瑞银分析师在9月份表示,Nuance之前的披露以及他们与该公司投资者关系团队的看涨期权使他们估计Nuance约46%的收入将基于云。他们估计,如果包括整个季度,这将意味着微软云部门在第二财季的额外销售额约为 9100 万美元。</blockquote></p><p> Another bump could be coming in the future from increased prices for Microsoft's most popular cloud software offering, Office 365. Microsoft is increasing prices more than 10% across the board for the product, which the company described as \"the first substantive pricing update since we launched Office 365 a decade ago,\" which also gives analysts confidence that Microsoft can withstand any supply-chain pressures on the PC market.</p><p><blockquote>微软最受欢迎的云软件产品Office 365的价格上涨可能会在未来带来另一个上涨。微软将该产品的价格全面提高了10%以上,该公司将其描述为“自十年前推出Office 365以来的首次实质性定价更新”,这也让分析师相信微软能够承受PC市场的任何供应链压力。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What to expect</b></p><p><blockquote><b>期待什么</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>Earnings:</b> Analysts on average expect Microsoft to report earnings of $2.08 a share, up from $1.82 a share a year ago. Contributors to Estimize -- a crowdsourcing platform that gathers estimates from Wall Street analysts as well as buy-side analysts, fund managers, company executives, academics and others -- predict earnings of $2.22 a share.</p><p><blockquote><b>收益:</b>分析师平均预计微软每股收益为 2.08 美元,高于一年前的每股 1.82 美元。Estimize 是一个众包平台,收集华尔街分析师以及买方分析师、基金经理、公司高管、学者和其他人的估计,其贡献者预测每股收益为 2.22 美元。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Revenue:</b> Analysts on average were modeling sales of $43.93 billion, which would be an improvement from $37.15 billion a year ago, after Microsoft forecast revenue of $43.3 billion to $44.2 billion. Estimize contributors expect $44.88 billion in sales.</p><p><blockquote><b>收入:</b>分析师平均预测销售额为 439.3 亿美元,比一年前的 371.5 亿美元有所改善,此前微软预测收入为 433 亿美元至 442 亿美元。Estimize 贡献者预计销售额为 448.8 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> Analyst expect $16.52 billion in sales from the \"Intelligent Cloud\" segment, after Microsoft guided for $16.4 billion to $16.65 billion; $14.67 billion in sales from the cloud-software-focused \"Productivity and Business Solutions\" segment, after a forecast of $14.5 billion to $14.75 billion; and $12.72 billion from \"More Personal Computing,\" after guidance for sales of $12.4 billion to $12.8 billion.</p><p><blockquote>分析师预计“智能云”部门的销售额为 165.2 亿美元,此前微软的预期为 164 亿美元至 166.5 亿美元;专注于云软件的“生产力和业务解决方案”部门的销售额为 146.7 亿美元,此前预测为 145 亿至 147.5 亿美元;在指导销售额为 124 亿美元至 128 亿美元之后,“更多个人计算”的收入为 127.2 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> <b>Stock movement: </b>Microsoft shares have declined in the session following earnings releases in four of the past five quarters, though the last decline was only by 0.1%. The stock has increased 8.1% in the past three months and 45.2% in the past year, as the S&P 500 index has grown by 4.1% and 31.6% in those periods, respectively.</p><p><blockquote><b>股票变动:</b>在过去五个季度中的四个季度公布财报后,微软股价在盘中下跌,尽管上次下跌仅 0.1%。该股在过去三个月上涨了 8.1%,在过去一年上涨了 45.2%,而标普500指数在此期间分别上涨了 4.1% 和 31.6%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What analysts are saying</b></p><p><blockquote><b>分析师怎么说</b></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are in pretty universal agreement about Microsoft's current position. According to FactSet tracking, 33 out of 36 analysts rate the stock the equivalent of a buy, while the other three rate it as a hold.</p><p><blockquote>分析师们对微软目前的立场基本达成一致。根据 FactSet 跟踪,36 名分析师中有 33 名将该股评级为相当于买入,而另外三名分析师将其评级为持有。</blockquote></p><p> \"Currently trading at 27x our CY23 GAAP EPS estimates, Microsoft represents a rare combination of strong secular positioning and reasonable valuation within the software space,\" wrote the Morgan Stanley analysts, who rate the shares overweight with a price target of $331.</p><p><blockquote>摩根士丹利分析师写道:“微软目前的交易价格是我们 2023 财年 GAAP 每股收益预期的 27 倍,代表了软件领域强大的长期定位和合理估值的罕见结合。”他们将该股跑赢大盘评级为 331 美元。</blockquote></p><p> The once concern seems to be the durability of the current growth trajectory, which is why the Nuance acquisition and increased pricing of Office 365 is seen as key to the stock continuing to rise.</p><p><blockquote>曾经令人担忧的似乎是当前增长轨迹的持久性,这就是为什么 Nuance 收购和 Office 365 定价上涨被视为该股持续上涨的关键。</blockquote></p><p> \"Comps get progressively tougher throughout FY22, which should be met by Microsoft's durable growth portfolio of Azure/Security/Teams,\" wrote Jeffries analysts, who have an outperform rating and recently raised their price target to $375 from $345. \"Key items to watch are elevated expectations (Azure high 40s reported), integration with Nuance and increased security investments.\"</p><p><blockquote>杰弗里斯分析师写道:“整个 2022 财年,竞争将变得越来越艰难,微软 Azure/Security/Teams 的可持续增长产品组合应该会满足这一要求。”他们的评级为跑赢大盘,最近将目标价从 345 美元上调至 375 美元。“需要关注的关键项目是提高期望(据报道 Azure 高达 40 年代)、与 Nuance 的集成以及增加安全投资。”</blockquote></p><p> Microsoft has benefitted from the pandemic, as companies have relied on cloud-computing power and software to keep teams connected while working remotely. But Microsoft bull and Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives does not see a return to the office as a sign that the boom will end.</p><p><blockquote>微软从疫情中受益,因为公司依靠云计算能力和软件在远程工作时保持团队联系。但微软·布尔和韦德布什分析师 Daniel Ives 并不认为重返办公室是繁荣即将结束的迹象。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe the Street's view of moderating cloud growth on the other side of this WFH cycle is contrary to the deal activity Microsoft is seeing in the field,\" Ives, with an outperform rating and $375 price target, wrote in a preview of the report. \"While we have seen the momentum of this backdrop in the last few years, we believe deal flow looks incrementally strong (Office 365/Azure combo deals in particular) heading into FY22 as we estimate that Microsoft is still only 35% through penetrating its unparalleled installed base on the cloud transition.\"</p><p><blockquote>艾夫斯在报告的预览中写道:“我们认为,华尔街关于在这个居家办公周期的另一边放缓云增长的观点与微软在该领域看到的交易活动相反。”他的评级为跑赢大盘,目标价为 375 美元。“虽然我们在过去几年中看到了这一背景的势头,但我们相信,进入 2022 财年,交易流看起来会逐渐强劲(特别是 Office 365/Azure 组合交易),因为我们估计微软仍只有 35% 通过渗透其无与伦比的安装基础云过渡。”</blockquote></p><p> Stifel analysts, with a buy rating and $325 price target, concurred.</p><p><blockquote>Stifel 分析师给予买入评级,目标价为 325 美元,对此表示同意。</blockquote></p><p> \"We continue to believe that the pandemic is forcing organizations to accelerate the pace of their cloud migrations and that Microsoft remains a key beneficiary of this modernization spend, especially around large new deal momentum, as its broad stack enables it to capture Tier 1 workloads previously out of reach,\" they wrote.</p><p><blockquote>“我们仍然相信,大流行正在迫使组织加快云迁移的步伐,而微软仍然是这种现代化支出的主要受益者,特别是在大型新交易势头方面,因为其广泛的堆栈使其能够捕获以前遥不可及的一级工作负载,”他们写道。</blockquote></p><p> The average price target on Microsoft stock as of Friday afternoon was $335.47, roughly 8.5% higher than the going rate.</p><p><blockquote>截至周五下午,微软股票的平均目标价为 335.47 美元,比现行价格高出约 8.5%。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-pc-slowdown-shouldnt-hurt-microsoft-earnings-and-heres-why-11635003215?mod=home-page\">MarketWatch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MSFT":"微软"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-pc-slowdown-shouldnt-hurt-microsoft-earnings-and-heres-why-11635003215?mod=home-page","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2177489964","content_text":"Growth from Azure and other cloud products should mask over any disappointment from supply-chain issues affecting PC sales\nMicrosoft Corp. is scheduled to release fiscal first-quarter earnings after the bell on Tuesday.\nThe slowdown in personal computer sales due to supply-chain issues in recent months would have hurt Microsoft Corp. in past years, but the company's pivot to cloud computing and cloud software should insulate it from any earnings fallout.\nMicrosoft is scheduled to report its fiscal first-quarter earnings on Tuesday afternoon, as it rolls out its new Windows 11 operating system and PC makers struggle to deliver new machines. While the Microsoft of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer would have faced a lot of Wall Street pessimism if PC shipments were mangled and a new operating system was not quickly adopted, Satya Nadella's Microsoft should be just fine.\nThat is because analysts and investors are mostly focused on Azure, Microsoft's cloud-computing answer to Amazon.com Inc.'s Amazon Web Services, as well as cloud-software offerings, decreasing the importance of Microsoft's PC business.\n\"Sustained digital transformation momentum should offset the impact from mixed PC unit shipment estimates from IDC and Gartner,\" Morgan Stanley analysts wrote in a preview of the report, later adding, \"While our negative growth outlook for Windows OEM pressures our longer term earnings expectation for Microsoft, we also note Windows OEM overall represents a decreasing mix of overall Microsoft revenue and gross profit.\"\nAzure has made sure that Windows' importance to Microsoft has decreased. The fast-growing cloud business is at the top of every analyst note about Microsoft, and analysts expect revenue to grow in the mid-40% range. (Microsoft does not disclose Azure performance except for percentage gain, despite AWS and Google (GOOGL) Cloud providing full revenue and operating profits for their competitive services).\n\"Fundamentally, ramping contribution from previously signed long-term Azure deals, continued Cloud migrations post-COVID, Microsoft's intensifying focus on Cloud verticalization and strong Microsoft 365 seat growth can sustain durable longer-term Azure growth,\" the Morgan Stanley analysts wrote.\nThere are factors that could add to Microsoft's growth as well, especially in the forecast. The $19.7 billion acquisition of health-care-focused company Nuance is expected to close before the end of the calendar year, and Microsoft recently disclosed that its cloud-based revenue would dump into the same revenue bucket as Azure.\nWhile Microsoft did not disclose exactly how much that would mean, UBS analysts said in September that prior Nuance disclosures and a call they had with the company's investor relations team led them to estimate that about 46% of Nuance's revenue would be cloud-based. They estimated that would mean roughly $91 million in additional sales for Microsoft's cloud division in the fiscal second quarter, if the full quarter were to be included.\nAnother bump could be coming in the future from increased prices for Microsoft's most popular cloud software offering, Office 365. Microsoft is increasing prices more than 10% across the board for the product, which the company described as \"the first substantive pricing update since we launched Office 365 a decade ago,\" which also gives analysts confidence that Microsoft can withstand any supply-chain pressures on the PC market.\nWhat to expect\nEarnings: Analysts on average expect Microsoft to report earnings of $2.08 a share, up from $1.82 a share a year ago. Contributors to Estimize -- a crowdsourcing platform that gathers estimates from Wall Street analysts as well as buy-side analysts, fund managers, company executives, academics and others -- predict earnings of $2.22 a share.\nRevenue: Analysts on average were modeling sales of $43.93 billion, which would be an improvement from $37.15 billion a year ago, after Microsoft forecast revenue of $43.3 billion to $44.2 billion. Estimize contributors expect $44.88 billion in sales.\nAnalyst expect $16.52 billion in sales from the \"Intelligent Cloud\" segment, after Microsoft guided for $16.4 billion to $16.65 billion; $14.67 billion in sales from the cloud-software-focused \"Productivity and Business Solutions\" segment, after a forecast of $14.5 billion to $14.75 billion; and $12.72 billion from \"More Personal Computing,\" after guidance for sales of $12.4 billion to $12.8 billion.\nStock movement: Microsoft shares have declined in the session following earnings releases in four of the past five quarters, though the last decline was only by 0.1%. The stock has increased 8.1% in the past three months and 45.2% in the past year, as the S&P 500 index has grown by 4.1% and 31.6% in those periods, respectively.\nWhat analysts are saying\nAnalysts are in pretty universal agreement about Microsoft's current position. According to FactSet tracking, 33 out of 36 analysts rate the stock the equivalent of a buy, while the other three rate it as a hold.\n\"Currently trading at 27x our CY23 GAAP EPS estimates, Microsoft represents a rare combination of strong secular positioning and reasonable valuation within the software space,\" wrote the Morgan Stanley analysts, who rate the shares overweight with a price target of $331.\nThe once concern seems to be the durability of the current growth trajectory, which is why the Nuance acquisition and increased pricing of Office 365 is seen as key to the stock continuing to rise.\n\"Comps get progressively tougher throughout FY22, which should be met by Microsoft's durable growth portfolio of Azure/Security/Teams,\" wrote Jeffries analysts, who have an outperform rating and recently raised their price target to $375 from $345. \"Key items to watch are elevated expectations (Azure high 40s reported), integration with Nuance and increased security investments.\"\nMicrosoft has benefitted from the pandemic, as companies have relied on cloud-computing power and software to keep teams connected while working remotely. But Microsoft bull and Wedbush analyst Daniel Ives does not see a return to the office as a sign that the boom will end.\n\"We believe the Street's view of moderating cloud growth on the other side of this WFH cycle is contrary to the deal activity Microsoft is seeing in the field,\" Ives, with an outperform rating and $375 price target, wrote in a preview of the report. \"While we have seen the momentum of this backdrop in the last few years, we believe deal flow looks incrementally strong (Office 365/Azure combo deals in particular) heading into FY22 as we estimate that Microsoft is still only 35% through penetrating its unparalleled installed base on the cloud transition.\"\nStifel analysts, with a buy rating and $325 price target, concurred.\n\"We continue to believe that the pandemic is forcing organizations to accelerate the pace of their cloud migrations and that Microsoft remains a key beneficiary of this modernization spend, especially around large new deal momentum, as its broad stack enables it to capture Tier 1 workloads previously out of reach,\" they wrote.\nThe average price target on Microsoft stock as of Friday afternoon was $335.47, roughly 8.5% higher than the going rate.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"MSFT":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2363,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":852057044,"gmtCreate":1635227152731,"gmtModify":1635227313724,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Cool] ","listText":"[Cool] ","text":"[Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/852057044","repostId":"2177412181","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2177412181","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1635219132,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/2177412181?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-26 11:32","market":"us","language":"en","title":"AMD earnings look to again succeed where Intel disappointed<blockquote>AMD 盈利有望再次取得成功,英特尔令人失望</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2177412181","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"AMD earnings preview: After showing data-center gains as Intel declined two quarters in a row, analy","content":"<p>AMD earnings preview: After showing data-center gains as Intel declined two quarters in a row, analysts now point to AMD's growing margins as Intel's are projected to shrink</p><p><blockquote>AMD 盈利预览:在英特尔连续两个季度下滑的情况下显示数据中心增长后,分析师现在指出 AMD 的利润率正在增长,因为英特尔的利润率预计将萎缩</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/30ec3c9220844c561016f0de86f86f52\" tg-width=\"699\" tg-height=\"394\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Advanced Micro Devices Inc.’s growing series of Epyc server chips has been the talk of Wall Street in recent quarters, but that may switch to gross margins in this quarter’s earnings report.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>Advanced Micro Devices Inc. 最近几个季度,华尔街一直在谈论不断增长的 Epyc 服务器芯片系列,但这可能会转向本季度财报中的毛利率。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Advanced Micro Devices Inc. is set to follow yet another rough earnings report from Intel Corp., and once again could show gains in an area that caused pain for its larger rival.</p><p><blockquote>Advanced Micro Devices Inc. 将继英特尔公司 (Intel Corp.) 发布另一份糟糕的收益报告之后,该公司可能会再次在一个给其更大的竞争对手带来痛苦的领域取得进展。</blockquote></p><p> AMD is scheduled to report third-quarter earnings on Tuesday after the close of markets, after Intel reported an earnings beat Thursday that hardly mattered as revenue came in light. More important to analysts was Intel's forecast for declining margins over the next few years as its chief executive doubles down on new manufacturing capacity to try to retake its former glory as the undisputed chip leader.</p><p><blockquote>AMD 定于周二收盘后公布第三季度收益,此前英特尔周四公布的收益超出预期,但随着收入的浮出水面,这几乎无关紧要。对分析师来说,更重要的是英特尔预测未来几年利润率将下降,因为其首席执行官加倍投资新的产能,试图重夺其作为无可争议的芯片领导者的昔日荣耀。</blockquote></p><p> That led to downgrades on Friday and Intel's worst one-day performance since the chip leader said it was going to delay its next generation of chips, an announcement that had fired up even more investor support for AMD back then.</p><p><blockquote>这导致了周五的评级下调,以及自这家芯片领导者表示将推迟下一代芯片以来英特尔最糟糕的单日表现,这一声明当时激发了投资者对 AMD 的更多支持。</blockquote></p><p> Bernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon, who has a market perform rating on AMD and a $110 price target, said AMD will continue to benefit from Intel's transition, and called attention to an AMD metric that was one of enormous concern during Intel's call: Gross margins.</p><p><blockquote>Bernstein 分析师 Stacy Rasgon 对 AMD 给予市场表现评级,目标价为 110 美元,他表示 AMD 将继续受益于英特尔的转型,并呼吁人们关注英特尔看涨期权期间备受关注的 AMD 指标之一:毛利率。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe Street gross margin estimates appear unaggressive going forward (which is not something we have typically said for AMD), and the company is now (for the first time ever) starting to return cash,\" Rasgon said.</p><p><blockquote>拉斯贡表示:“我们认为,未来华尔街毛利率估计似乎并不激进(这不是我们通常对 AMD 所说的话),而且该公司现在(有史以来第一次)开始返还现金。”</blockquote></p><p> That underscores another show of how Intel and AMD are transitioning with respect to one another: Analysts on the Intel call were very concerned that Intel's margins were falling despite company assurances they would stay just above 50% for the next few years. Meanwhile, AMD gross margins have been rising, and are likely to break above 50%, if not in this earnings report, then sometime soon. Three months ago, AMD reported gross margins of 48%, up from 44% in the previous year.</p><p><blockquote>这再次表明英特尔和 AMD 正在相互转型:英特尔看涨期权上的分析师非常担心英特尔的利润率正在下降,尽管该公司保证未来几年利润率将保持在 50% 以上。与此同时,AMD 的毛利率一直在上升,并且可能会突破 50% 以上,如果不是在这份收益报告中,那么很快就会突破 50%。三个月前,AMD 公布的毛利率为 48%,高于上一年的 44%。</blockquote></p><p> While AMD is referred to as Intel's \"smaller rival,\" that gap has been steadily closing for a while now. At Friday's close, AMD had a market cap of $145.34 billion, or nearly 73% of Intel's $200.66 billion. Just this past summer, AMD's $111.5 billion valuation was a little more than half Intel's $219.5 billion cap.</p><p><blockquote>虽然AMD被称为英特尔的“较小的竞争对手”,但这一差距已经稳步缩小了一段时间。截至周五收盘,AMD 的市值为 1453.4 亿美元,接近英特尔 2006.6 亿美元市值的 73%。就在去年夏天,AMD 的估值为 1115 亿美元,略高于英特尔 2195 亿美元上限的一半。</blockquote></p><p> One other are to look at will be data-center sales, as finally swung to a gain in that important segment in the quarter. Over the past two quarters, Intel has posted significant year-over-year declines in the increasingly important category, while AMD has more than doubled its sales. That raises the question whether Intel clawed back some market share, or whether data-center sales were just generally better all around, which AMD's report could answer.</p><p><blockquote>另一个值得关注的领域是数据中心销售,该领域终于在本季度实现了这一重要领域的增长。在过去的两个季度里,英特尔在这个日益重要的类别中的销售额同比大幅下降,而 AMD 的销售额则增长了一倍多。这就提出了一个问题:英特尔是否夺回了一些市场份额,或者数据中心的销售是否只是普遍更好,AMD 的报告可以回答这个问题。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What to expect</b></p><p><blockquote><b>期待什么</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>Earnings: </b>Of the 34 analysts surveyed by FactSet, AMD on average is expected to post adjusted earnings of 66 cents a share, up from 41 cents a share reported in the year-ago period. Estimize, a software platform that crowdsources estimates from hedge-fund executives, brokerages, buy-side analysts and others, calls for earnings of 72 cents a share.</p><p><blockquote><b>收益:</b>在 FactSet 调查的 34 名分析师中,AMD 预计调整后每股收益平均为 66 美分,高于去年同期的每股 41 美分。Estimize 是一个软件平台,它从对冲基金高管、经纪公司、买方分析师和其他人那里众包评级估算,每股收益为 72 美分。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Revenue:</b> Of the 32 analysts polled by FactSet, AMD, on average, is expected to post revenue of $4.11 billion, up from the $2.8 billion reported in the year-ago quarter. AMD had forecast $4 billion to $4.2 billion. Estimize expects revenue of $4.22 billion.</p><p><blockquote><b>收入:</b>在 FactSet 调查的 32 名分析师中,AMD 预计平均营收为 41.1 亿美元,高于去年同期报告的 28 亿美元。AMD 曾预测 40 亿至 42 亿美元。Estimize 预计收入为 42.2 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Stock movement:</b> While AMD earnings and sales have both topped Wall Street estimates over the past five quarterly reports, but shares only gained the next day twice, about three months ago and when the stock popped nearly 13% five quarters ago.</p><p><blockquote><b>股票变动:</b>尽管 AMD 在过去五个季度报告中的盈利和销售额均超出了华尔街的预期,但其股价仅在第二天上涨了两次,一次是在大约三个月前,另一次是在五个季度前,当时该股飙升了近 13%。</blockquote></p><p> AMD shares rose 9.6% in the third quarter. In contrast, the PHLX Semiconductor Index declined 2.6%, the S&P 500 index rose 0.2%, and the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index declined 0.4%. On Friday, the day after Intel's report, AMD shares closed at a record high of $119.82.</p><p><blockquote>AMD 股价第三季度上涨 9.6%。相比之下,PHLX半导体指数下跌2.6%,标普500指数上涨0.2%,以科技股为主的纳斯达克综合指数下跌0.4%。周五,即英特尔发布报告的第二天,AMD 股价收于 119.82 美元的历史新高。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What analysts are saying</b></p><p><blockquote><b>分析师怎么说</b></blockquote></p><p> Cowen analyst Matthew Ramsay, who has an outperform rating and a $120 price target on AMD, said he's \"lookin' for more of the same.\"</p><p><blockquote>Cowen 分析师马修·拉姆齐 (Matthew Ramsay) 对 AMD 给予跑赢大盘评级,目标价为 120 美元,他表示“正在寻找更多类似的评级”。</blockquote></p><p> \"We continue to monitor the PC market for signs of demand slowing or supply improving,\" Ramsay said. \"Near-term, we see resilient demand outside Chromebooks, but prefer a prudent/agnostic view on 2022 like AMD took on its last call.\"</p><p><blockquote>拉姆齐表示:“我们将继续监测个人电脑市场是否有需求放缓或供应改善的迹象。”“短期内,我们看到 Chromebook 以外的需求有弹性,但更倾向于对 2022 年持谨慎/不可知论的态度,就像 AMD 进行最后一次看涨期权一样。”</blockquote></p><p> Earlier in the month, research firms released data showing that pandemic-fueled growth in PC shipments had slowed considerably as the world not only wrestles with a chip shortage but overall supply-chain issues.</p><p><blockquote>本月早些时候,研究公司发布的数据显示,由于全球不仅面临芯片短缺,而且面临整体供应链问题,疫情推动的个人电脑出货量增长已大幅放缓。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> On data-center sales, Ramsay is even more optimistic estimating that segment will account for more than 25% of sales compared with less than 20% a year ago.</p><p><blockquote>在数据中心销售方面,Ramsay 更加乐观,估计该部门将占销售额的 25% 以上,而一年前这一比例还不到 20%。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe datacenter passing a quarter of AMD's business could draw investor attention,\" Ramsay said. \"We remind investors that the most important business for AMD remains datacenter, which we estimate doubled in 2020, with CEO Lisa Su noting she sees the business momentum accelerating in 2021.\"</p><p><blockquote>“我们相信数据中心超过 AMD 四分之一的业务可能会吸引投资者的注意力,”拉姆齐说。“我们提醒投资者,AMD 最重要的业务仍然是数据中心,我们预计该业务在 2020 年将翻一番,首席执行官 Lisa Su 指出,她预计 2021 年业务势头将加速。”</blockquote></p><p> Susquehanna Financial analyst Christopher Rolland, who has a positive rating and a $130 price target on AMD, said he expects another solid quarter driven by enterprise and server sales, but that \"given the slowing PC market, we do not expect mgmt to raise their FY top-line guidance as they have done in numerous updates over the last year.\"</p><p><blockquote>萨斯奎哈纳金融分析师克里斯托弗·罗兰 (Christopher Rolland) 对 AMD 给予正面评级,目标价为 130 美元,他表示,在企业和服务器销售的推动下,他预计本季度将再次表现强劲,但“鉴于 PC 市场放缓,我们预计管理层不会提高他们的财年营收指引,就像他们在去年的多次更新中所做的那样。”</blockquote></p><p> Still, Rolland expects AMD to report share gains from Intel in both desktop and laptop PCs as well as enterprise and gaming PCs.</p><p><blockquote>尽管如此,罗兰预计 AMD 在台式机和笔记本电脑以及企业和游戏电脑方面的份额将超过英特尔。</blockquote></p><p> Of the 39 analysts who cover AMD, 23 have buy or overweight ratings, and 16 have hold ratings, with an average price target of $117.55.</p><p><blockquote>在研究 AMD 的 39 位分析师中,23 位给予买入或跑赢大盘评级,16 位给予持有评级,平均目标价为 117.55 美元。</blockquote></p><p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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More important to analysts was Intel's forecast for declining margins over the next few years as its chief executive doubles down on new manufacturing capacity to try to retake its former glory as the undisputed chip leader.</p><p><blockquote>AMD 定于周二收盘后公布第三季度收益,此前英特尔周四公布的收益超出预期,但随着收入的浮出水面,这几乎无关紧要。对分析师来说,更重要的是英特尔预测未来几年利润率将下降,因为其首席执行官加倍投资新的产能,试图重夺其作为无可争议的芯片领导者的昔日荣耀。</blockquote></p><p> That led to downgrades on Friday and Intel's worst one-day performance since the chip leader said it was going to delay its next generation of chips, an announcement that had fired up even more investor support for AMD back then.</p><p><blockquote>这导致了周五的评级下调,以及自这家芯片领导者表示将推迟下一代芯片以来英特尔最糟糕的单日表现,这一声明当时激发了投资者对 AMD 的更多支持。</blockquote></p><p> Bernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon, who has a market perform rating on AMD and a $110 price target, said AMD will continue to benefit from Intel's transition, and called attention to an AMD metric that was one of enormous concern during Intel's call: Gross margins.</p><p><blockquote>Bernstein 分析师 Stacy Rasgon 对 AMD 给予市场表现评级,目标价为 110 美元,他表示 AMD 将继续受益于英特尔的转型,并呼吁人们关注英特尔看涨期权期间备受关注的 AMD 指标之一:毛利率。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe Street gross margin estimates appear unaggressive going forward (which is not something we have typically said for AMD), and the company is now (for the first time ever) starting to return cash,\" Rasgon said.</p><p><blockquote>拉斯贡表示:“我们认为,未来华尔街毛利率估计似乎并不激进(这不是我们通常对 AMD 所说的话),而且该公司现在(有史以来第一次)开始返还现金。”</blockquote></p><p> That underscores another show of how Intel and AMD are transitioning with respect to one another: Analysts on the Intel call were very concerned that Intel's margins were falling despite company assurances they would stay just above 50% for the next few years. Meanwhile, AMD gross margins have been rising, and are likely to break above 50%, if not in this earnings report, then sometime soon. Three months ago, AMD reported gross margins of 48%, up from 44% in the previous year.</p><p><blockquote>这再次表明英特尔和 AMD 正在相互转型:英特尔看涨期权上的分析师非常担心英特尔的利润率正在下降,尽管该公司保证未来几年利润率将保持在 50% 以上。与此同时,AMD 的毛利率一直在上升,并且可能会突破 50% 以上,如果不是在这份收益报告中,那么很快就会突破 50%。三个月前,AMD 公布的毛利率为 48%,高于上一年的 44%。</blockquote></p><p> While AMD is referred to as Intel's \"smaller rival,\" that gap has been steadily closing for a while now. At Friday's close, AMD had a market cap of $145.34 billion, or nearly 73% of Intel's $200.66 billion. Just this past summer, AMD's $111.5 billion valuation was a little more than half Intel's $219.5 billion cap.</p><p><blockquote>虽然AMD被称为英特尔的“较小的竞争对手”,但这一差距已经稳步缩小了一段时间。截至周五收盘,AMD 的市值为 1453.4 亿美元,接近英特尔 2006.6 亿美元市值的 73%。就在去年夏天,AMD 的估值为 1115 亿美元,略高于英特尔 2195 亿美元上限的一半。</blockquote></p><p> One other are to look at will be data-center sales, as finally swung to a gain in that important segment in the quarter. Over the past two quarters, Intel has posted significant year-over-year declines in the increasingly important category, while AMD has more than doubled its sales. That raises the question whether Intel clawed back some market share, or whether data-center sales were just generally better all around, which AMD's report could answer.</p><p><blockquote>另一个值得关注的领域是数据中心销售,该领域终于在本季度实现了这一重要领域的增长。在过去的两个季度里,英特尔在这个日益重要的类别中的销售额同比大幅下降,而 AMD 的销售额则增长了一倍多。这就提出了一个问题:英特尔是否夺回了一些市场份额,或者数据中心的销售是否只是普遍更好,AMD 的报告可以回答这个问题。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What to expect</b></p><p><blockquote><b>期待什么</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>Earnings: </b>Of the 34 analysts surveyed by FactSet, AMD on average is expected to post adjusted earnings of 66 cents a share, up from 41 cents a share reported in the year-ago period. Estimize, a software platform that crowdsources estimates from hedge-fund executives, brokerages, buy-side analysts and others, calls for earnings of 72 cents a share.</p><p><blockquote><b>收益:</b>在 FactSet 调查的 34 名分析师中,AMD 预计调整后每股收益平均为 66 美分,高于去年同期的每股 41 美分。Estimize 是一个软件平台,它从对冲基金高管、经纪公司、买方分析师和其他人那里众包评级估算,每股收益为 72 美分。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Revenue:</b> Of the 32 analysts polled by FactSet, AMD, on average, is expected to post revenue of $4.11 billion, up from the $2.8 billion reported in the year-ago quarter. AMD had forecast $4 billion to $4.2 billion. Estimize expects revenue of $4.22 billion.</p><p><blockquote><b>收入:</b>在 FactSet 调查的 32 名分析师中,AMD 预计平均营收为 41.1 亿美元,高于去年同期报告的 28 亿美元。AMD 曾预测 40 亿至 42 亿美元。Estimize 预计收入为 42.2 亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Stock movement:</b> While AMD earnings and sales have both topped Wall Street estimates over the past five quarterly reports, but shares only gained the next day twice, about three months ago and when the stock popped nearly 13% five quarters ago.</p><p><blockquote><b>股票变动:</b>尽管 AMD 在过去五个季度报告中的盈利和销售额均超出了华尔街的预期,但其股价仅在第二天上涨了两次,一次是在大约三个月前,另一次是在五个季度前,当时该股飙升了近 13%。</blockquote></p><p> AMD shares rose 9.6% in the third quarter. In contrast, the PHLX Semiconductor Index declined 2.6%, the S&P 500 index rose 0.2%, and the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index declined 0.4%. On Friday, the day after Intel's report, AMD shares closed at a record high of $119.82.</p><p><blockquote>AMD 股价第三季度上涨 9.6%。相比之下,PHLX半导体指数下跌2.6%,标普500指数上涨0.2%,以科技股为主的纳斯达克综合指数下跌0.4%。周五,即英特尔发布报告的第二天,AMD 股价收于 119.82 美元的历史新高。</blockquote></p><p> <b>What analysts are saying</b></p><p><blockquote><b>分析师怎么说</b></blockquote></p><p> Cowen analyst Matthew Ramsay, who has an outperform rating and a $120 price target on AMD, said he's \"lookin' for more of the same.\"</p><p><blockquote>Cowen 分析师马修·拉姆齐 (Matthew Ramsay) 对 AMD 给予跑赢大盘评级,目标价为 120 美元,他表示“正在寻找更多类似的评级”。</blockquote></p><p> \"We continue to monitor the PC market for signs of demand slowing or supply improving,\" Ramsay said. \"Near-term, we see resilient demand outside Chromebooks, but prefer a prudent/agnostic view on 2022 like AMD took on its last call.\"</p><p><blockquote>拉姆齐表示:“我们将继续监测个人电脑市场是否有需求放缓或供应改善的迹象。”“短期内,我们看到 Chromebook 以外的需求有弹性,但更倾向于对 2022 年持谨慎/不可知论的态度,就像 AMD 进行最后一次看涨期权一样。”</blockquote></p><p> Earlier in the month, research firms released data showing that pandemic-fueled growth in PC shipments had slowed considerably as the world not only wrestles with a chip shortage but overall supply-chain issues.</p><p><blockquote>本月早些时候,研究公司发布的数据显示,由于全球不仅面临芯片短缺,而且面临整体供应链问题,疫情推动的个人电脑出货量增长已大幅放缓。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> On data-center sales, Ramsay is even more optimistic estimating that segment will account for more than 25% of sales compared with less than 20% a year ago.</p><p><blockquote>在数据中心销售方面,Ramsay 更加乐观,估计该部门将占销售额的 25% 以上,而一年前这一比例还不到 20%。</blockquote></p><p> \"We believe datacenter passing a quarter of AMD's business could draw investor attention,\" Ramsay said. \"We remind investors that the most important business for AMD remains datacenter, which we estimate doubled in 2020, with CEO Lisa Su noting she sees the business momentum accelerating in 2021.\"</p><p><blockquote>“我们相信数据中心超过 AMD 四分之一的业务可能会吸引投资者的注意力,”拉姆齐说。“我们提醒投资者,AMD 最重要的业务仍然是数据中心,我们预计该业务在 2020 年将翻一番,首席执行官 Lisa Su 指出,她预计 2021 年业务势头将加速。”</blockquote></p><p> Susquehanna Financial analyst Christopher Rolland, who has a positive rating and a $130 price target on AMD, said he expects another solid quarter driven by enterprise and server sales, but that \"given the slowing PC market, we do not expect mgmt to raise their FY top-line guidance as they have done in numerous updates over the last year.\"</p><p><blockquote>萨斯奎哈纳金融分析师克里斯托弗·罗兰 (Christopher Rolland) 对 AMD 给予正面评级,目标价为 130 美元,他表示,在企业和服务器销售的推动下,他预计本季度将再次表现强劲,但“鉴于 PC 市场放缓,我们预计管理层不会提高他们的财年营收指引,就像他们在去年的多次更新中所做的那样。”</blockquote></p><p> Still, Rolland expects AMD to report share gains from Intel in both desktop and laptop PCs as well as enterprise and gaming PCs.</p><p><blockquote>尽管如此,罗兰预计 AMD 在台式机和笔记本电脑以及企业和游戏电脑方面的份额将超过英特尔。</blockquote></p><p> Of the 39 analysts who cover AMD, 23 have buy or overweight ratings, and 16 have hold ratings, with an average price target of $117.55.</p><p><blockquote>在研究 AMD 的 39 位分析师中,23 位给予买入或跑赢大盘评级,16 位给予持有评级,平均目标价为 117.55 美元。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/amd-earnings-look-to-again-succeed-where-intel-disappointed-11634942264?mod=mw_quote_news\">MarketWatch</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMD":"美国超微公司"},"source_url":"https://www.marketwatch.com/story/amd-earnings-look-to-again-succeed-where-intel-disappointed-11634942264?mod=mw_quote_news","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2177412181","content_text":"AMD earnings preview: After showing data-center gains as Intel declined two quarters in a row, analysts now point to AMD's growing margins as Intel's are projected to shrink\nAdvanced Micro Devices Inc.’s growing series of Epyc server chips has been the talk of Wall Street in recent quarters, but that may switch to gross margins in this quarter’s earnings report.\nAdvanced Micro Devices Inc. is set to follow yet another rough earnings report from Intel Corp., and once again could show gains in an area that caused pain for its larger rival.\nAMD is scheduled to report third-quarter earnings on Tuesday after the close of markets, after Intel reported an earnings beat Thursday that hardly mattered as revenue came in light. More important to analysts was Intel's forecast for declining margins over the next few years as its chief executive doubles down on new manufacturing capacity to try to retake its former glory as the undisputed chip leader.\nThat led to downgrades on Friday and Intel's worst one-day performance since the chip leader said it was going to delay its next generation of chips, an announcement that had fired up even more investor support for AMD back then.\nBernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon, who has a market perform rating on AMD and a $110 price target, said AMD will continue to benefit from Intel's transition, and called attention to an AMD metric that was one of enormous concern during Intel's call: Gross margins.\n\"We believe Street gross margin estimates appear unaggressive going forward (which is not something we have typically said for AMD), and the company is now (for the first time ever) starting to return cash,\" Rasgon said.\nThat underscores another show of how Intel and AMD are transitioning with respect to one another: Analysts on the Intel call were very concerned that Intel's margins were falling despite company assurances they would stay just above 50% for the next few years. Meanwhile, AMD gross margins have been rising, and are likely to break above 50%, if not in this earnings report, then sometime soon. Three months ago, AMD reported gross margins of 48%, up from 44% in the previous year.\nWhile AMD is referred to as Intel's \"smaller rival,\" that gap has been steadily closing for a while now. At Friday's close, AMD had a market cap of $145.34 billion, or nearly 73% of Intel's $200.66 billion. Just this past summer, AMD's $111.5 billion valuation was a little more than half Intel's $219.5 billion cap.\nOne other are to look at will be data-center sales, as finally swung to a gain in that important segment in the quarter. Over the past two quarters, Intel has posted significant year-over-year declines in the increasingly important category, while AMD has more than doubled its sales. That raises the question whether Intel clawed back some market share, or whether data-center sales were just generally better all around, which AMD's report could answer.\nWhat to expect\nEarnings: Of the 34 analysts surveyed by FactSet, AMD on average is expected to post adjusted earnings of 66 cents a share, up from 41 cents a share reported in the year-ago period. Estimize, a software platform that crowdsources estimates from hedge-fund executives, brokerages, buy-side analysts and others, calls for earnings of 72 cents a share.\nRevenue: Of the 32 analysts polled by FactSet, AMD, on average, is expected to post revenue of $4.11 billion, up from the $2.8 billion reported in the year-ago quarter. AMD had forecast $4 billion to $4.2 billion. Estimize expects revenue of $4.22 billion.\nStock movement: While AMD earnings and sales have both topped Wall Street estimates over the past five quarterly reports, but shares only gained the next day twice, about three months ago and when the stock popped nearly 13% five quarters ago.\nAMD shares rose 9.6% in the third quarter. In contrast, the PHLX Semiconductor Index declined 2.6%, the S&P 500 index rose 0.2%, and the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite Index declined 0.4%. On Friday, the day after Intel's report, AMD shares closed at a record high of $119.82.\nWhat analysts are saying\nCowen analyst Matthew Ramsay, who has an outperform rating and a $120 price target on AMD, said he's \"lookin' for more of the same.\"\n\"We continue to monitor the PC market for signs of demand slowing or supply improving,\" Ramsay said. \"Near-term, we see resilient demand outside Chromebooks, but prefer a prudent/agnostic view on 2022 like AMD took on its last call.\"\nEarlier in the month, research firms released data showing that pandemic-fueled growth in PC shipments had slowed considerably as the world not only wrestles with a chip shortage but overall supply-chain issues.\nOn data-center sales, Ramsay is even more optimistic estimating that segment will account for more than 25% of sales compared with less than 20% a year ago.\n\"We believe datacenter passing a quarter of AMD's business could draw investor attention,\" Ramsay said. \"We remind investors that the most important business for AMD remains datacenter, which we estimate doubled in 2020, with CEO Lisa Su noting she sees the business momentum accelerating in 2021.\"\nSusquehanna Financial analyst Christopher Rolland, who has a positive rating and a $130 price target on AMD, said he expects another solid quarter driven by enterprise and server sales, but that \"given the slowing PC market, we do not expect mgmt to raise their FY top-line guidance as they have done in numerous updates over the last year.\"\nStill, Rolland expects AMD to report share gains from Intel in both desktop and laptop PCs as well as enterprise and gaming PCs.\nOf the 39 analysts who cover AMD, 23 have buy or overweight ratings, and 16 have hold ratings, with an average price target of 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","text":"[Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/831039540","repostId":"1114320591","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1114320591","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1629255336,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1114320591?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-18 10:55","market":"us","language":"en","title":"3 Stocks I'm Never Selling<blockquote>我从不出售的 3 只股票</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1114320591","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"The best investors in the world swear by holding high-quality companies for decades on end. These stocks fit that bill.","content":"<p><b>Key Points</b></p><p><blockquote><b>要点</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Time plus patience adds up to wealth-building results in the stock market.</li> <li>These three business titans are leaders in their fields.</li> <li>They are also built to last for a very long time.</li> </ul> </p><p><blockquote><ul><li>时间加上耐心会导致股票市场的财富积累。</li><li>这三位商业巨头都是各自领域的领导者。</li><li>它们也可以持续很长时间。</li></ul></blockquote></p><p> I'm about to show you my favorite stocks. Sometimes I invest with an eye to strong returns over the next few years. These are the ones that I expect to keep beating the market for the years and decades to come. It will take a lot to pry them out of my portfolio.</p><p><blockquote>我要给你看我最喜欢的股票。有时我投资时着眼于未来几年的丰厚回报。这些是我预计在未来几年和几十年里继续击败市场的产品。把它们从我的投资组合里挖出来要花很多时间。</blockquote></p><p> Let me show you why I intend to hold <b>Netflix</b>(NASDAQ:NFLX),<b>Alphabet</b>(NASDAQ:GOOG)(NASDAQ:GOOGL), and <b>Walt Disney</b>(NYSE:DIS)for the long haul. These stocks may not be slam-dunk forever holdings for every investor, but you should absolutely take a close look at these top-notch investments.</p><p><blockquote>让我告诉你为什么我打算举行<b>网飞</b>(纳斯达克股票代码:NFLX),<b>Alphabet</b>(纳斯达克股票代码:GOOG)(纳斯达克股票代码:GOOGL)以及<b>华特·迪士尼</b>(纽约证券交易所代码:DIS)从长远来看。这些股票可能不是每个投资者都能永远持有的股票,但你绝对应该仔细看看这些顶级投资。</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Netflix</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1. 网飞</b></blockquote></p><p> First, you knew Netflix as the sender of red mail-order DVD rentals. The company introduced digital video streams as a free add-on for DVD customers in 2007, then separated the streaming business into a separate subscription service in 2011. The Qwikster event was a big marketing mess and could certainly have been handled better, but it was absolutely the right idea in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>首先,你知道网飞是红色邮购DVD租赁的发送者。该公司于 2007 年为 DVD 客户推出了数字视频流作为免费附加组件,然后在 2011 年将流媒体业务拆分为一项独立的订阅服务。Qwikster事件是一个大的营销混乱,当然可以处理得更好,但从长远来看,这绝对是正确的想法。</blockquote></p><p> Going all-in on the all-digital streaming service allowed Netflix to roll out its paid subscription plans on a global scale, supplemented by an ambitious focus on original content. The subscriber count has skyrocketed from 26 million in the summer of 2011 to 209 million today. That fantastic trend has worked wonders for the company's top and bottom lines:</p><p><blockquote>全力投入全数字流媒体服务使 Netflix 能够在全球范围内推出付费订阅计划,并辅以对原创内容的雄心勃勃的关注。用户数量从2011年夏天的2600万飙升至今天的2.09亿。这一奇妙的趋势为公司的营收和利润创造了奇迹:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/646be4c2a73d68810e962c19efe82476\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"449\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>NFLX REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>YCHARTS 提供的 NFLX 收入 (TTM) 数据。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Netflix saw an opportunity to lead the charge into a brand-new market, with low infrastructure costs compared to the DVD-mailing business and buckets of worldwide growth potential. So the DVD business that had come to dominate the video rental sector in America was unceremoniously tossed aside in favor of better ideas.</p><p><blockquote>Netflix 看到了将这项收费引入全新市场的机会,与 DVD 邮寄业务相比,该市场的基础设施成本低,并且具有全球增长潜力。因此,在美国视频租赁行业占据主导地位的DVD业务被毫不客气地抛弃,取而代之的是更好的想法。</blockquote></p><p> These days, Netflix is an award-winning content producer with an unmatched distribution network in every market that matters (except forChina, where the company must operate through local partnerships). The stock has delivered a 2,240% return since the Qwikster event, which works out to a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 35.8%.</p><p><blockquote>如今,网飞是一家屡获殊荣的内容制作商,在每个重要市场都拥有无与伦比的分销网络(中国除外,该公司必须通过当地合作伙伴关系运营)。自 Qwikster 事件以来,该股已实现 2,240% 的回报率,复合年增长率 (CAGR) 为 35.8%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Alphabet</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2.Alphabet</b></blockquote></p><p> Alphabet is the parent company of online services giant Google. What started as a student project at Stanford quickly evolved into the world's leading online search tool. Paired with the moneymaking muscle of Google's digital advertising tools, the company generated strong cash flows early on. The cash profits were reinvested in more business ideas. Google eventually built or bought services with matchless market shares in important sectors such as web browsers, online video, email, and smartphone software.</p><p><blockquote>Alphabet是在线服务巨头谷歌的母公司。斯坦福大学的一个学生项目很快发展成为世界领先的在线搜索工具。再加上谷歌数字广告工具的赚钱能力,该公司很早就产生了强劲的现金流。现金利润被再投资于更多的商业想法。谷歌最终建立或购买了在网络浏览器、在线视频、电子邮件和智能手机软件等重要领域拥有无与伦比的市场份额的服务。</blockquote></p><p> By 2015, co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page had concluded that Google's meat-and-potatoes search and advertising businesses eventually had to fade away, overtaken by mobile alternatives and other innovations. So the company made some big changes. Google hired CFO Ruth Porat, a banking executive with decades of experience in large-scale corporate finance. Later the same year, the company changed its name to Alphabet and reorganized itself into a loose conglomerate of different operations.</p><p><blockquote>到 2015 年,联合创始人谢尔盖·布林 (Sergey Brin) 和拉里·佩奇 (Larry Page) 得出结论,谷歌的肉和土豆搜索和广告业务最终将不得不消失,取而代之的是移动替代品和其他创新。所以公司做了一些大的改变。谷歌聘请了首席财务官露丝·波拉特(Ruth Porat),她是一位拥有数十年大型企业融资经验的银行业高管。同年晚些时候,该公司更名为Alphabet,并将自己重组为一个不同业务的松散企业集团。</blockquote></p><p> Google is still the backbone of Alphabet, accounting for 99.6% of the holding company's total sales in 2020. The non-Google operations are still losing money on a regular basis, despite some progress in the fields of self-driving vehicles and fiber-optic internet connections. At the same time, the company is preparing for an uncertain future by developing a plethora of online and offline business projects with massive long-term growth prospects and equally large development risks.</p><p><blockquote>谷歌仍是Alphabet的中坚力量,2020年占控股公司总销售额的99.6%。尽管在自动驾驶汽车和光纤互联网连接领域取得了一些进展,但非谷歌业务仍在定期亏损。与此同时,公司正在开发大量具有巨大长期增长前景和同样巨大发展风险的线上和线下业务项目,为不确定的未来做准备。</blockquote></p><p> If the self-driving cars don't work out in the long run, Alphabet might find a cash machine in medical research or novel wind energy generators. We may never even have heard of the next big winner in Alphabet's sprawling portfolio. If and when Alphabet starts to make serious money from artificial intelligence tools or cancer drugs, most consumers probably won't think of that stuff as a Google business at all.</p><p><blockquote>如果自动驾驶汽车从长远来看行不通,Alphabet可能会在医学研究或新型风力发电机中找到提款机。我们可能从未听说过 Alphabet 庞大投资组合中的下一个大赢家。如果Alphabet开始从人工智能工具或癌症药物中赚大钱,大多数消费者可能根本不会认为这些东西是谷歌的业务。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb97b6814df65240bd8f0b4a0690e77e\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"449\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>GOOGL REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>YCHARTS 的GOOGL收入 (TTM) 数据。</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Alphabet continues to ride its Google heritage as far as it will go, but there is no shortage of completely unrelated operations that can take over when the browser-based search and advertising business starts to falter. Until then, the traditional search business is booming and Alphabet has rewarded investors with a 912% return in 10 years. That's an annual growth rate of 23.3%.</p><p><blockquote>Alphabet将继续继承谷歌的传统,但当基于浏览器的搜索和广告业务开始步履蹒跚时,并不缺乏完全不相关的业务可以接管。在此之前,传统搜索业务蓬勃发展,Alphabet在 10 年内回报了投资者 912%。年增长率为 23.3%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Walt Disney</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 华特·迪士尼</b></blockquote></p><p> And then there's the near-centennial entertainment giant. The House of Mouse was founded in 1923 by two cartoon-making brothers with a vision. The company has survived a world war, several terrible recessions, 10 decades of progress in distribution and production technologies, and much more.</p><p><blockquote>然后是近百年的娱乐巨头。老鼠之家是由两个有远见的卡通制作兄弟于1923年创立的。该公司经历了世界大战、几次可怕的经济衰退、10 年的分销和生产技术进步等等。</blockquote></p><p> The leisure and entertainment conglomerate you see today is a far cry from the original business, which was a pure-play cartoon production studio. Disney World and Disneyland are cultural touchstones. The company is a leading provider of hotel and resort services, including a cruise line. I can't think of another company that has mastered the art of monetizing its intellectual property as effectively as Disney has. And that intellectual property -- characters, fictional worlds, and storylines that most Americans know by heart -- will always be the lifeblood of Disney's business.</p><p><blockquote>你今天看到的休闲和娱乐集团与最初的业务相去甚远,最初的业务是一个纯粹的卡通制作工作室。迪士尼世界和迪士尼乐园是文化的试金石。该公司是一家领先的酒店和度假村服务提供商,包括一家邮轮公司。我想不出还有哪家公司能像迪士尼那样有效地掌握知识产权货币化的艺术。这种知识产权——大多数美国人熟知的角色、虚构世界和故事情节——将永远是迪士尼业务的命脉。</blockquote></p><p> Times are tough right now, as the coronavirus pandemic closed down movie theaters, theme parks, resorts, and cruise ships around the world. So Disney took a good, hard look at the drastic changes in the entertainment industry and decided to put its full weight behind media-streaming platforms.</p><p><blockquote>现在的日子很艰难,因为冠状病毒疫情关闭了世界各地的电影院、主题公园、度假村和游轮。因此,迪士尼仔细审视了娱乐业的剧烈变化,并决定全力支持流媒体平台。</blockquote></p><p> The company has been reorganized from the top down to support Disney's streaming platforms. The Disney+, Hulu, Hotstar, and ESPN+ streaming services are poised to challenge Netflix for the global media-streaming market, adding up to 174 million subscribers in the third quarter of 2021. Disney took on some extra debt in the darkest days of the health crisis and will most likely use some of that spare cash to accelerate its streaming operations.</p><p><blockquote>该公司自上而下进行了重组,以支持迪士尼的流媒体平台。Disney+、Hulu、Hotstar 和 ESPN+ 流媒体服务有望在全球媒体流媒体市场挑战 Netflix,在 2021 年第三季度累计拥有 1.74 亿用户。迪士尼在健康危机最黑暗的日子里承担了一些额外的债务,很可能会使用部分闲置现金来加速其流媒体运营。</blockquote></p><p> The coronavirus caught Disney unprepared, but management didn't hesitate to turn on a dime. The whole behemoth is heading in a different direction now, supported by the same treasure trove of storytelling assets that took the company this far. This supremely well-managed company is also beating the market in the long run, with a 439% 10-year gain that works out to a CAGR of 13%.</p><p><blockquote>冠状病毒让迪士尼措手不及,但管理层毫不犹豫地打开了一毛钱。整个庞然大物现在正朝着不同的方向前进,得到了将公司带到今天这一步的相同的讲故事资产宝库的支持。从长远来看,这家管理非常出色的公司也跑赢了市场,10 年收益为 439%,复合年增长率为 13%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/110cd288830d0e354767349fe36259e6\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1333\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图片来源:盖蒂图片社。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>The common denominator</b></p><p><blockquote><b>公分母</b></blockquote></p><p> These three companies are very different, but they still have one all-important quality in common. I'm looking for flexibility in the face of good times and bad. If your company stands ready to make drastic changes to its operating plan when the business environment around it changes, you know you have an organization that will stand the test of time.</p><p><blockquote>这三家公司截然不同,但它们仍然有一个非常重要的共同点。面对顺境和逆境,我在寻找灵活性。如果你的公司准备在周围的商业环境发生变化时对其运营计划进行彻底的改变,你就知道你有一个经得起时间考验的组织。</blockquote></p><p> Lots of time in the market equals wealth-building returns. That's the main lesson you can learn from the writings of Benjamin Graham and the stellar results of his star student, Warren Buffett. Building life-changing wealth does not require a couple of years of fantastic returns. All you need is generally solid gains for several decades.</p><p><blockquote>在市场上的大量时间等于积累财富的回报。这是你可以从本杰明·格雷厄姆的著作和他的明星学生沃伦·巴菲特的优异成绩中学到的主要教训。积累改变生活的财富并不需要几年的惊人回报。你所需要的通常是几十年的稳健收益。</blockquote></p><p> For example, an annual return of 10% -- in line with the long-term market average-- adds up to a 673% profit over 20 years. Beating the Street by a small margin makes a big difference on this long time scale. Boost your average gains to just 11%, and you'll see 806% returns over those 20 years. Larger increases bring even greater total long-haul returns. The three stocks discussed above are set up to do better than that, and their very survival in the long run is just about guaranteed by that willingness to change when market conditions require it.</p><p><blockquote>例如,10% 的年回报率(与长期市场平均水平一致)加起来 20 年后利润高达 673%。在这个长期尺度上,以微弱优势击败华尔街会产生很大的影响。将您的平均收益提高到仅 11%,您将在这 20 年内看到 806% 的回报。更大的增长会带来更大的长期总回报。上面讨论的三只股票都是为了做得更好,从长远来看,它们的生存几乎是由市场条件需要时改变的意愿所保证的。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>3 Stocks I'm Never Selling<blockquote>我从不出售的 3 只股票</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n3 Stocks I'm Never Selling<blockquote>我从不出售的 3 只股票</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Motley Fool</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-18 10:55</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Key Points</b></p><p><blockquote><b>要点</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Time plus patience adds up to wealth-building results in the stock market.</li> <li>These three business titans are leaders in their fields.</li> <li>They are also built to last for a very long time.</li> </ul> </p><p><blockquote><ul><li>时间加上耐心会导致股票市场的财富积累。</li><li>这三位商业巨头都是各自领域的领导者。</li><li>它们也可以持续很长时间。</li></ul></blockquote></p><p> I'm about to show you my favorite stocks. Sometimes I invest with an eye to strong returns over the next few years. These are the ones that I expect to keep beating the market for the years and decades to come. It will take a lot to pry them out of my portfolio.</p><p><blockquote>我要给你看我最喜欢的股票。有时我投资时着眼于未来几年的丰厚回报。这些是我预计在未来几年和几十年里继续击败市场的产品。把它们从我的投资组合里挖出来要花很多时间。</blockquote></p><p> Let me show you why I intend to hold <b>Netflix</b>(NASDAQ:NFLX),<b>Alphabet</b>(NASDAQ:GOOG)(NASDAQ:GOOGL), and <b>Walt Disney</b>(NYSE:DIS)for the long haul. These stocks may not be slam-dunk forever holdings for every investor, but you should absolutely take a close look at these top-notch investments.</p><p><blockquote>让我告诉你为什么我打算举行<b>网飞</b>(纳斯达克股票代码:NFLX),<b>Alphabet</b>(纳斯达克股票代码:GOOG)(纳斯达克股票代码:GOOGL)以及<b>华特·迪士尼</b>(纽约证券交易所代码:DIS)从长远来看。这些股票可能不是每个投资者都能永远持有的股票,但你绝对应该仔细看看这些顶级投资。</blockquote></p><p> <b>1. Netflix</b></p><p><blockquote><b>1. 网飞</b></blockquote></p><p> First, you knew Netflix as the sender of red mail-order DVD rentals. The company introduced digital video streams as a free add-on for DVD customers in 2007, then separated the streaming business into a separate subscription service in 2011. The Qwikster event was a big marketing mess and could certainly have been handled better, but it was absolutely the right idea in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>首先,你知道网飞是红色邮购DVD租赁的发送者。该公司于 2007 年为 DVD 客户推出了数字视频流作为免费附加组件,然后在 2011 年将流媒体业务拆分为一项独立的订阅服务。Qwikster事件是一个大的营销混乱,当然可以处理得更好,但从长远来看,这绝对是正确的想法。</blockquote></p><p> Going all-in on the all-digital streaming service allowed Netflix to roll out its paid subscription plans on a global scale, supplemented by an ambitious focus on original content. The subscriber count has skyrocketed from 26 million in the summer of 2011 to 209 million today. That fantastic trend has worked wonders for the company's top and bottom lines:</p><p><blockquote>全力投入全数字流媒体服务使 Netflix 能够在全球范围内推出付费订阅计划,并辅以对原创内容的雄心勃勃的关注。用户数量从2011年夏天的2600万飙升至今天的2.09亿。这一奇妙的趋势为公司的营收和利润创造了奇迹:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/646be4c2a73d68810e962c19efe82476\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"449\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>NFLX REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>YCHARTS 提供的 NFLX 收入 (TTM) 数据。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Netflix saw an opportunity to lead the charge into a brand-new market, with low infrastructure costs compared to the DVD-mailing business and buckets of worldwide growth potential. So the DVD business that had come to dominate the video rental sector in America was unceremoniously tossed aside in favor of better ideas.</p><p><blockquote>Netflix 看到了将这项收费引入全新市场的机会,与 DVD 邮寄业务相比,该市场的基础设施成本低,并且具有全球增长潜力。因此,在美国视频租赁行业占据主导地位的DVD业务被毫不客气地抛弃,取而代之的是更好的想法。</blockquote></p><p> These days, Netflix is an award-winning content producer with an unmatched distribution network in every market that matters (except forChina, where the company must operate through local partnerships). The stock has delivered a 2,240% return since the Qwikster event, which works out to a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 35.8%.</p><p><blockquote>如今,网飞是一家屡获殊荣的内容制作商,在每个重要市场都拥有无与伦比的分销网络(中国除外,该公司必须通过当地合作伙伴关系运营)。自 Qwikster 事件以来,该股已实现 2,240% 的回报率,复合年增长率 (CAGR) 为 35.8%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>2. Alphabet</b></p><p><blockquote><b>2.Alphabet</b></blockquote></p><p> Alphabet is the parent company of online services giant Google. What started as a student project at Stanford quickly evolved into the world's leading online search tool. Paired with the moneymaking muscle of Google's digital advertising tools, the company generated strong cash flows early on. The cash profits were reinvested in more business ideas. Google eventually built or bought services with matchless market shares in important sectors such as web browsers, online video, email, and smartphone software.</p><p><blockquote>Alphabet是在线服务巨头谷歌的母公司。斯坦福大学的一个学生项目很快发展成为世界领先的在线搜索工具。再加上谷歌数字广告工具的赚钱能力,该公司很早就产生了强劲的现金流。现金利润被再投资于更多的商业想法。谷歌最终建立或购买了在网络浏览器、在线视频、电子邮件和智能手机软件等重要领域拥有无与伦比的市场份额的服务。</blockquote></p><p> By 2015, co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page had concluded that Google's meat-and-potatoes search and advertising businesses eventually had to fade away, overtaken by mobile alternatives and other innovations. So the company made some big changes. Google hired CFO Ruth Porat, a banking executive with decades of experience in large-scale corporate finance. Later the same year, the company changed its name to Alphabet and reorganized itself into a loose conglomerate of different operations.</p><p><blockquote>到 2015 年,联合创始人谢尔盖·布林 (Sergey Brin) 和拉里·佩奇 (Larry Page) 得出结论,谷歌的肉和土豆搜索和广告业务最终将不得不消失,取而代之的是移动替代品和其他创新。所以公司做了一些大的改变。谷歌聘请了首席财务官露丝·波拉特(Ruth Porat),她是一位拥有数十年大型企业融资经验的银行业高管。同年晚些时候,该公司更名为Alphabet,并将自己重组为一个不同业务的松散企业集团。</blockquote></p><p> Google is still the backbone of Alphabet, accounting for 99.6% of the holding company's total sales in 2020. The non-Google operations are still losing money on a regular basis, despite some progress in the fields of self-driving vehicles and fiber-optic internet connections. At the same time, the company is preparing for an uncertain future by developing a plethora of online and offline business projects with massive long-term growth prospects and equally large development risks.</p><p><blockquote>谷歌仍是Alphabet的中坚力量,2020年占控股公司总销售额的99.6%。尽管在自动驾驶汽车和光纤互联网连接领域取得了一些进展,但非谷歌业务仍在定期亏损。与此同时,公司正在开发大量具有巨大长期增长前景和同样巨大发展风险的线上和线下业务项目,为不确定的未来做准备。</blockquote></p><p> If the self-driving cars don't work out in the long run, Alphabet might find a cash machine in medical research or novel wind energy generators. We may never even have heard of the next big winner in Alphabet's sprawling portfolio. If and when Alphabet starts to make serious money from artificial intelligence tools or cancer drugs, most consumers probably won't think of that stuff as a Google business at all.</p><p><blockquote>如果自动驾驶汽车从长远来看行不通,Alphabet可能会在医学研究或新型风力发电机中找到提款机。我们可能从未听说过 Alphabet 庞大投资组合中的下一个大赢家。如果Alphabet开始从人工智能工具或癌症药物中赚大钱,大多数消费者可能根本不会认为这些东西是谷歌的业务。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb97b6814df65240bd8f0b4a0690e77e\" tg-width=\"720\" tg-height=\"449\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>GOOGL REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>YCHARTS 的GOOGL收入 (TTM) 数据。</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Alphabet continues to ride its Google heritage as far as it will go, but there is no shortage of completely unrelated operations that can take over when the browser-based search and advertising business starts to falter. Until then, the traditional search business is booming and Alphabet has rewarded investors with a 912% return in 10 years. That's an annual growth rate of 23.3%.</p><p><blockquote>Alphabet将继续继承谷歌的传统,但当基于浏览器的搜索和广告业务开始步履蹒跚时,并不缺乏完全不相关的业务可以接管。在此之前,传统搜索业务蓬勃发展,Alphabet在 10 年内回报了投资者 912%。年增长率为 23.3%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>3. Walt Disney</b></p><p><blockquote><b>3. 华特·迪士尼</b></blockquote></p><p> And then there's the near-centennial entertainment giant. The House of Mouse was founded in 1923 by two cartoon-making brothers with a vision. The company has survived a world war, several terrible recessions, 10 decades of progress in distribution and production technologies, and much more.</p><p><blockquote>然后是近百年的娱乐巨头。老鼠之家是由两个有远见的卡通制作兄弟于1923年创立的。该公司经历了世界大战、几次可怕的经济衰退、10 年的分销和生产技术进步等等。</blockquote></p><p> The leisure and entertainment conglomerate you see today is a far cry from the original business, which was a pure-play cartoon production studio. Disney World and Disneyland are cultural touchstones. The company is a leading provider of hotel and resort services, including a cruise line. I can't think of another company that has mastered the art of monetizing its intellectual property as effectively as Disney has. And that intellectual property -- characters, fictional worlds, and storylines that most Americans know by heart -- will always be the lifeblood of Disney's business.</p><p><blockquote>你今天看到的休闲和娱乐集团与最初的业务相去甚远,最初的业务是一个纯粹的卡通制作工作室。迪士尼世界和迪士尼乐园是文化的试金石。该公司是一家领先的酒店和度假村服务提供商,包括一家邮轮公司。我想不出还有哪家公司能像迪士尼那样有效地掌握知识产权货币化的艺术。这种知识产权——大多数美国人熟知的角色、虚构世界和故事情节——将永远是迪士尼业务的命脉。</blockquote></p><p> Times are tough right now, as the coronavirus pandemic closed down movie theaters, theme parks, resorts, and cruise ships around the world. So Disney took a good, hard look at the drastic changes in the entertainment industry and decided to put its full weight behind media-streaming platforms.</p><p><blockquote>现在的日子很艰难,因为冠状病毒疫情关闭了世界各地的电影院、主题公园、度假村和游轮。因此,迪士尼仔细审视了娱乐业的剧烈变化,并决定全力支持流媒体平台。</blockquote></p><p> The company has been reorganized from the top down to support Disney's streaming platforms. The Disney+, Hulu, Hotstar, and ESPN+ streaming services are poised to challenge Netflix for the global media-streaming market, adding up to 174 million subscribers in the third quarter of 2021. Disney took on some extra debt in the darkest days of the health crisis and will most likely use some of that spare cash to accelerate its streaming operations.</p><p><blockquote>该公司自上而下进行了重组,以支持迪士尼的流媒体平台。Disney+、Hulu、Hotstar 和 ESPN+ 流媒体服务有望在全球媒体流媒体市场挑战 Netflix,在 2021 年第三季度累计拥有 1.74 亿用户。迪士尼在健康危机最黑暗的日子里承担了一些额外的债务,很可能会使用部分闲置现金来加速其流媒体运营。</blockquote></p><p> The coronavirus caught Disney unprepared, but management didn't hesitate to turn on a dime. The whole behemoth is heading in a different direction now, supported by the same treasure trove of storytelling assets that took the company this far. This supremely well-managed company is also beating the market in the long run, with a 439% 10-year gain that works out to a CAGR of 13%.</p><p><blockquote>冠状病毒让迪士尼措手不及,但管理层毫不犹豫地打开了一毛钱。整个庞然大物现在正朝着不同的方向前进,得到了将公司带到今天这一步的相同的讲故事资产宝库的支持。从长远来看,这家管理非常出色的公司也跑赢了市场,10 年收益为 439%,复合年增长率为 13%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/110cd288830d0e354767349fe36259e6\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1333\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图片来源:盖蒂图片社。</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>The common denominator</b></p><p><blockquote><b>公分母</b></blockquote></p><p> These three companies are very different, but they still have one all-important quality in common. I'm looking for flexibility in the face of good times and bad. If your company stands ready to make drastic changes to its operating plan when the business environment around it changes, you know you have an organization that will stand the test of time.</p><p><blockquote>这三家公司截然不同,但它们仍然有一个非常重要的共同点。面对顺境和逆境,我在寻找灵活性。如果你的公司准备在周围的商业环境发生变化时对其运营计划进行彻底的改变,你就知道你有一个经得起时间考验的组织。</blockquote></p><p> Lots of time in the market equals wealth-building returns. That's the main lesson you can learn from the writings of Benjamin Graham and the stellar results of his star student, Warren Buffett. Building life-changing wealth does not require a couple of years of fantastic returns. All you need is generally solid gains for several decades.</p><p><blockquote>在市场上的大量时间等于积累财富的回报。这是你可以从本杰明·格雷厄姆的著作和他的明星学生沃伦·巴菲特的优异成绩中学到的主要教训。积累改变生活的财富并不需要几年的惊人回报。你所需要的通常是几十年的稳健收益。</blockquote></p><p> For example, an annual return of 10% -- in line with the long-term market average-- adds up to a 673% profit over 20 years. Beating the Street by a small margin makes a big difference on this long time scale. Boost your average gains to just 11%, and you'll see 806% returns over those 20 years. Larger increases bring even greater total long-haul returns. The three stocks discussed above are set up to do better than that, and their very survival in the long run is just about guaranteed by that willingness to change when market conditions require it.</p><p><blockquote>例如,10% 的年回报率(与长期市场平均水平一致)加起来 20 年后利润高达 673%。在这个长期尺度上,以微弱优势击败华尔街会产生很大的影响。将您的平均收益提高到仅 11%,您将在这 20 年内看到 806% 的回报。更大的增长会带来更大的长期总回报。上面讨论的三只股票都是为了做得更好,从长远来看,它们的生存几乎是由市场条件需要时改变的意愿所保证的。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/17/3-stocks-im-never-selling/\">Motley Fool</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GOOGL":"谷歌A","GOOG":"谷歌","NFLX":"奈飞","DIS":"迪士尼"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/17/3-stocks-im-never-selling/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1114320591","content_text":"Key Points\n\nTime plus patience adds up to wealth-building results in the stock market.\nThese three business titans are leaders in their fields.\nThey are also built to last for a very long time.\n\n\nI'm about to show you my favorite stocks. Sometimes I invest with an eye to strong returns over the next few years. These are the ones that I expect to keep beating the market for the years and decades to come. It will take a lot to pry them out of my portfolio.\nLet me show you why I intend to hold Netflix(NASDAQ:NFLX),Alphabet(NASDAQ:GOOG)(NASDAQ:GOOGL), and Walt Disney(NYSE:DIS)for the long haul. These stocks may not be slam-dunk forever holdings for every investor, but you should absolutely take a close look at these top-notch investments.\n1. Netflix\nFirst, you knew Netflix as the sender of red mail-order DVD rentals. The company introduced digital video streams as a free add-on for DVD customers in 2007, then separated the streaming business into a separate subscription service in 2011. The Qwikster event was a big marketing mess and could certainly have been handled better, but it was absolutely the right idea in the long run.\nGoing all-in on the all-digital streaming service allowed Netflix to roll out its paid subscription plans on a global scale, supplemented by an ambitious focus on original content. The subscriber count has skyrocketed from 26 million in the summer of 2011 to 209 million today. That fantastic trend has worked wonders for the company's top and bottom lines:\nNFLX REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.\nNetflix saw an opportunity to lead the charge into a brand-new market, with low infrastructure costs compared to the DVD-mailing business and buckets of worldwide growth potential. So the DVD business that had come to dominate the video rental sector in America was unceremoniously tossed aside in favor of better ideas.\nThese days, Netflix is an award-winning content producer with an unmatched distribution network in every market that matters (except forChina, where the company must operate through local partnerships). The stock has delivered a 2,240% return since the Qwikster event, which works out to a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 35.8%.\n2. Alphabet\nAlphabet is the parent company of online services giant Google. What started as a student project at Stanford quickly evolved into the world's leading online search tool. Paired with the moneymaking muscle of Google's digital advertising tools, the company generated strong cash flows early on. The cash profits were reinvested in more business ideas. Google eventually built or bought services with matchless market shares in important sectors such as web browsers, online video, email, and smartphone software.\nBy 2015, co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page had concluded that Google's meat-and-potatoes search and advertising businesses eventually had to fade away, overtaken by mobile alternatives and other innovations. So the company made some big changes. Google hired CFO Ruth Porat, a banking executive with decades of experience in large-scale corporate finance. Later the same year, the company changed its name to Alphabet and reorganized itself into a loose conglomerate of different operations.\nGoogle is still the backbone of Alphabet, accounting for 99.6% of the holding company's total sales in 2020. The non-Google operations are still losing money on a regular basis, despite some progress in the fields of self-driving vehicles and fiber-optic internet connections. At the same time, the company is preparing for an uncertain future by developing a plethora of online and offline business projects with massive long-term growth prospects and equally large development risks.\nIf the self-driving cars don't work out in the long run, Alphabet might find a cash machine in medical research or novel wind energy generators. We may never even have heard of the next big winner in Alphabet's sprawling portfolio. If and when Alphabet starts to make serious money from artificial intelligence tools or cancer drugs, most consumers probably won't think of that stuff as a Google business at all.\nGOOGL REVENUE (TTM) DATA BY YCHARTS.\nAlphabet continues to ride its Google heritage as far as it will go, but there is no shortage of completely unrelated operations that can take over when the browser-based search and advertising business starts to falter. Until then, the traditional search business is booming and Alphabet has rewarded investors with a 912% return in 10 years. That's an annual growth rate of 23.3%.\n3. Walt Disney\nAnd then there's the near-centennial entertainment giant. The House of Mouse was founded in 1923 by two cartoon-making brothers with a vision. The company has survived a world war, several terrible recessions, 10 decades of progress in distribution and production technologies, and much more.\nThe leisure and entertainment conglomerate you see today is a far cry from the original business, which was a pure-play cartoon production studio. Disney World and Disneyland are cultural touchstones. The company is a leading provider of hotel and resort services, including a cruise line. I can't think of another company that has mastered the art of monetizing its intellectual property as effectively as Disney has. And that intellectual property -- characters, fictional worlds, and storylines that most Americans know by heart -- will always be the lifeblood of Disney's business.\nTimes are tough right now, as the coronavirus pandemic closed down movie theaters, theme parks, resorts, and cruise ships around the world. So Disney took a good, hard look at the drastic changes in the entertainment industry and decided to put its full weight behind media-streaming platforms.\nThe company has been reorganized from the top down to support Disney's streaming platforms. The Disney+, Hulu, Hotstar, and ESPN+ streaming services are poised to challenge Netflix for the global media-streaming market, adding up to 174 million subscribers in the third quarter of 2021. Disney took on some extra debt in the darkest days of the health crisis and will most likely use some of that spare cash to accelerate its streaming operations.\nThe coronavirus caught Disney unprepared, but management didn't hesitate to turn on a dime. The whole behemoth is heading in a different direction now, supported by the same treasure trove of storytelling assets that took the company this far. This supremely well-managed company is also beating the market in the long run, with a 439% 10-year gain that works out to a CAGR of 13%.\nIMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.\nThe common denominator\nThese three companies are very different, but they still have one all-important quality in common. I'm looking for flexibility in the face of good times and bad. If your company stands ready to make drastic changes to its operating plan when the business environment around it changes, you know you have an organization that will stand the test of time.\nLots of time in the market equals wealth-building returns. That's the main lesson you can learn from the writings of Benjamin Graham and the stellar results of his star student, Warren Buffett. Building life-changing wealth does not require a couple of years of fantastic returns. All you need is generally solid gains for several decades.\nFor example, an annual return of 10% -- in line with the long-term market average-- adds up to a 673% profit over 20 years. Beating the Street by a small margin makes a big difference on this long time scale. Boost your average gains to just 11%, and you'll see 806% returns over those 20 years. Larger increases bring even greater total long-haul returns. The three stocks discussed above are set up to do better than that, and their very survival in the long run is just about guaranteed by that willingness to change when market conditions require it.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"GOOGL":0.9,"DIS":0.9,"NFLX":0.9,"GOOG":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2109,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":890469035,"gmtCreate":1628128671327,"gmtModify":1633753314139,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Miser] ","listText":"[Miser] ","text":"[Miser]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/890469035","repostId":"1166446729","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3243,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":804200196,"gmtCreate":1627956371615,"gmtModify":1633754904631,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Cool] [Cool] ","listText":"[Cool] [Cool] ","text":"[Cool] [Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/804200196","repostId":"2156309148","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":974,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":805848809,"gmtCreate":1627872063301,"gmtModify":1633755734157,"author":{"id":"3579212601855354","authorId":"3579212601855354","name":"LuffyDono","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e2c4cfc638f53752da999b29aa117d5b","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3579212601855354","idStr":"3579212601855354"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"[Cool] ","listText":"[Cool] ","text":"[Cool]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":9,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/805848809","repostId":"1170689665","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1170689665","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1627857540,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1170689665?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-02 06:39","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1170689665","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Dig","content":"<p>The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度业绩游行本周继续。除了数百家小盘股公司外,还有不少于 143 家标普500公司正在提交报告。法拉利、Vornado Realty Trust、Take-Two Interactive Software 和 Simon Property Group 将于周一启动。随后,Lyft、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、尼古拉、安德玛、礼来公司和康菲石油公司将于周二发布业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.</p><p><blockquote>周三将特别繁忙:通用汽车、优步科技、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Roku、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏和软银均有报道。Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Moderna 和 ViacomCBS 将于周四关闭,DraftKings、Canopy Growth 和 Tripadvisor 将于周五关闭本周。中国教育公司新东方教育科技集团公司和好未来教育集团取消了原定的财报发布和财报看涨期权。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94057bf11ca8d7311db6c075ba98727b\" tg-width=\"1706\" tg-height=\"740\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.</p><p><blockquote>本周经济日历上的亮点将是周五的就业。美国劳工统计局(Bureau of Labor Statistics)预计,继 6 月份的 85 万人之后,7 月份非农就业人数将增加 62.5 万人。失业率略低于6%。</blockquote></p><p> Other data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.</p><p><blockquote>本周公布的其他数据包括周一公布的美国供应管理协会(Institute for Supply Management)7 月份制造业采购经理人指数,随后是周三公布的服务业同等指数。这两项经济活动指标预计都将达到 61 左右,这将意味着强劲的扩张。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Monday 8/2</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期一 8/2</b></blockquote></p><p> CNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.</p><p><blockquote>CNA Financial、Global Payments、JELD-WEN Holding、Loews、Arista Networks、Leggett & Platt、Vornado Realty Trust、ZoomInfo Technologies、Woodward、Take-Two Interactive Software、Heineken、Trex、Ferrari、Ultra Clean Holdings 和 Simon Property Group 预计将发布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> GE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.</p><p><blockquote>通用电气股票周一开盘价约为每股 104 美元,周五收盘价为 12.95 美元。该公司于周五晚上完成了 1 比 8 的反向股票分割。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Institute for Supply</b> Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>供应研究所</b>管理层发布 7 月份制造业采购经理人指数。普遍估计读数为 60.8,高于 6 月份的 60.6。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>报告6月份的建筑支出。继 5 月份下降 0.3% 后,预计环比增长 0.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Tuesday 8/3</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期二 8/3</b></blockquote></p><p> Eaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>伊顿、英国石油公司、安德玛、Lyft、高乐氏、安进、Akamai Technologies、康明斯、礼来公司、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、Nikola、EnPro Industries、华纳音乐集团、Pitney Bowes、Tennant、Phillips 66、KKR、Gartner、Henry Schein、邓白氏控股公司、康菲石油公司和 Jacobs Engineering Group 在评级举办会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>预计将报告六月份的工厂订单。经济学家预测,本月订单增长1.0%,而5月份增长1.7%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Wednesday 8/4</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期三 8/4</b></blockquote></p><p> Sony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.</p><p><blockquote>索尼集团、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏、软银、通用汽车、Progressive、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Uber Technologies、Roku、米高梅国际酒店集团、福克斯和 Re/Max Holdings 预计将主办财报评级。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Bureau of Economic</b> Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>经济局</b>分析报告 7 月份轻型汽车销量。预计看涨期权经季节性调整后的年增长率为 1530 万辆,而 6 月份为 1540 万辆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The ISM releases</b> its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.</p><p><blockquote><b>ISM发布</b>7月份服务业采购经理人指数。一致估计读数为 60.8,而 6 月份的读数为 60.1。</blockquote></p><p> <b>ADP releases</b> its National Employment report for July. Consensus estimate is for a 635,000 gain in nonfarm private-sector employment, following an increase of 692,000 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>ADP释放</b>其7月份的全国就业报告。普遍估计,继 6 月份增加 692,000 人之后,非农私营部门就业人数将增加 635,000 人。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Thursday 8/5</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期四 8/5</b></blockquote></p><p> Zillow Group,Beyond Meat, Yelp, Wayfair, Kellogg,Bayer,HanesBrands, Moderna,Regeneron Pharmaceuticals,Switch,Cushman & Wakefield,ViacomCBS,Cigna,Duke Energy,Square,News Corp,and Siemensare expected to report financial results.</p><p><blockquote>Zillow Group、Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Kellogg、Bayer、HanesBrands、Moderna、Regeneron Pharmaceuticals、Switch、Cushman & Wakefield、ViacomCBS、Cigna、Duke Energy、Square、新闻集团和西门子预计将公布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Friday 8/6</p><p><blockquote>星期五 8/6</blockquote></p><p> <b>The BLS releases the jobs report</b> for July. Economists forecast a 800,000 rise in nonfarm payrolls, after an 850,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to edge down to 5.8% from 5.9%.</p><p><blockquote><b>BLS 发布就业报告</b>七月。经济学家预测,继6月份增加85万人之后,非农就业人数将增加80万人。失业率预计将从5.9%小幅降至5.8%。</blockquote></p><p> DraftKings,Dominion Energy,Gannett,MGM Growth Properties,AMC Networks,Canopy Growth, Tripadvisor,Spectrum Brands Holdings,E.W. Scripps,Cinemark Holdings, and Manitowoc host conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>DraftKings、Dominion Energy、Gannett、MGM Growth Properties、AMC Networks、Canopy Growth、Tripadvisor、Spectrum Brands Holdings、E.W。Scripps、Cinemark Holdings 和 Manitowoc 主办评级会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-08-02 06:39</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度业绩游行本周继续。除了数百家小盘股公司外,还有不少于 143 家标普500公司正在提交报告。法拉利、Vornado Realty Trust、Take-Two Interactive Software 和 Simon Property Group 将于周一启动。随后,Lyft、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、尼古拉、安德玛、礼来公司和康菲石油公司将于周二发布业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.</p><p><blockquote>周三将特别繁忙:通用汽车、优步科技、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Roku、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏和软银均有报道。Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Moderna 和 ViacomCBS 将于周四关闭,DraftKings、Canopy Growth 和 Tripadvisor 将于周五关闭本周。中国教育公司新东方教育科技集团公司和好未来教育集团取消了原定的财报发布和财报看涨期权。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94057bf11ca8d7311db6c075ba98727b\" tg-width=\"1706\" tg-height=\"740\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.</p><p><blockquote>本周经济日历上的亮点将是周五的就业。美国劳工统计局(Bureau of Labor Statistics)预计,继 6 月份的 85 万人之后,7 月份非农就业人数将增加 62.5 万人。失业率略低于6%。</blockquote></p><p> Other data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.</p><p><blockquote>本周公布的其他数据包括周一公布的美国供应管理协会(Institute for Supply Management)7 月份制造业采购经理人指数,随后是周三公布的服务业同等指数。这两项经济活动指标预计都将达到 61 左右,这将意味着强劲的扩张。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Monday 8/2</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期一 8/2</b></blockquote></p><p> CNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.</p><p><blockquote>CNA Financial、Global Payments、JELD-WEN Holding、Loews、Arista Networks、Leggett & Platt、Vornado Realty Trust、ZoomInfo Technologies、Woodward、Take-Two Interactive Software、Heineken、Trex、Ferrari、Ultra Clean Holdings 和 Simon Property Group 预计将发布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> GE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.</p><p><blockquote>通用电气股票周一开盘价约为每股 104 美元,周五收盘价为 12.95 美元。该公司于周五晚上完成了 1 比 8 的反向股票分割。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Institute for Supply</b> Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>供应研究所</b>管理层发布 7 月份制造业采购经理人指数。普遍估计读数为 60.8,高于 6 月份的 60.6。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>报告6月份的建筑支出。继 5 月份下降 0.3% 后,预计环比增长 0.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Tuesday 8/3</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期二 8/3</b></blockquote></p><p> Eaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>伊顿、英国石油公司、安德玛、Lyft、高乐氏、安进、Akamai Technologies、康明斯、礼来公司、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、Nikola、EnPro Industries、华纳音乐集团、Pitney Bowes、Tennant、Phillips 66、KKR、Gartner、Henry Schein、邓白氏控股公司、康菲石油公司和 Jacobs Engineering Group 在评级举办会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>预计将报告六月份的工厂订单。经济学家预测,本月订单增长1.0%,而5月份增长1.7%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Wednesday 8/4</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期三 8/4</b></blockquote></p><p> Sony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.</p><p><blockquote>索尼集团、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏、软银、通用汽车、Progressive、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Uber Technologies、Roku、米高梅国际酒店集团、福克斯和 Re/Max Holdings 预计将主办财报评级。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Bureau of Economic</b> Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>经济局</b>分析报告 7 月份轻型汽车销量。预计看涨期权经季节性调整后的年增长率为 1530 万辆,而 6 月份为 1540 万辆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The ISM releases</b> its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.</p><p><blockquote><b>ISM发布</b>7月份服务业采购经理人指数。一致估计读数为 60.8,而 6 月份的读数为 60.1。</blockquote></p><p> <b>ADP releases</b> its National Employment report for July. Consensus estimate is for a 635,000 gain in nonfarm private-sector employment, following an increase of 692,000 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>ADP释放</b>其7月份的全国就业报告。普遍估计,继 6 月份增加 692,000 人之后,非农私营部门就业人数将增加 635,000 人。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Thursday 8/5</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期四 8/5</b></blockquote></p><p> Zillow Group,Beyond Meat, Yelp, Wayfair, Kellogg,Bayer,HanesBrands, Moderna,Regeneron Pharmaceuticals,Switch,Cushman & Wakefield,ViacomCBS,Cigna,Duke Energy,Square,News Corp,and Siemensare expected to report financial results.</p><p><blockquote>Zillow Group、Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Kellogg、Bayer、HanesBrands、Moderna、Regeneron Pharmaceuticals、Switch、Cushman & Wakefield、ViacomCBS、Cigna、Duke Energy、Square、新闻集团和西门子预计将公布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Friday 8/6</p><p><blockquote>星期五 8/6</blockquote></p><p> <b>The BLS releases the jobs report</b> for July. Economists forecast a 800,000 rise in nonfarm payrolls, after an 850,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to edge down to 5.8% from 5.9%.</p><p><blockquote><b>BLS 发布就业报告</b>七月。经济学家预测,继6月份增加85万人之后,非农就业人数将增加80万人。失业率预计将从5.9%小幅降至5.8%。</blockquote></p><p> DraftKings,Dominion Energy,Gannett,MGM Growth Properties,AMC Networks,Canopy Growth, Tripadvisor,Spectrum Brands Holdings,E.W. Scripps,Cinemark Holdings, and Manitowoc host conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>DraftKings、Dominion Energy、Gannett、MGM Growth Properties、AMC Networks、Canopy Growth、Tripadvisor、Spectrum Brands Holdings、E.W。Scripps、Cinemark Holdings 和 Manitowoc 主办评级会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","UBER":"优步","BABA":"阿里巴巴","ROKU":"Roku Inc",".DJI":"道琼斯","DKNG":"DraftKings Inc.","GE":"GE航空航天",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","GM":"通用汽车","EA":"艺电"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1170689665","content_text":"The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.\nWednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.\n\nThe highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.\nOther data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.\nMonday 8/2\nCNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.\nGE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.\nThe Institute for Supply Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.\nThe Census Bureau reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.\nTuesday 8/3\nEaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.\nThe Census Bureau is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.\nWednesday 8/4\nSony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.\nThe Bureau of Economic Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.\nThe ISM releases its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.\nADP releases its National Employment report for July. 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Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir (PLTR) 最近几周的表现一直逊于市场,我们认为其股价仍有更大的下跌空间。我们的分析表明,Palantir 在当前水平上被极度高估,一些问题可能会阻止其股票在短期内进一步升值。因此,我们仍然认为,以目前的价格最好避开 Palantir,因为它的上涨空间似乎有限。</blockquote></p><p> <b>There Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore</b></p><p><blockquote><b>有几个危险信号,你不应该忽视</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir专门为其客户创建定制软件解决方案来收集数据,这些客户大多是政府机构和上市公司。虽然有些人可能认为 Palantir 是一家潜力巨大的年轻公司,但现实情况是,它并不是一家初创公司,因为它已经经营了近二十年,从那时起,它只增加了不到 200 名客户。因此,该公司接触到的组织数量有限,而这些组织产生了大部分收入。这主要是因为 Palantir 没有可扩展的业务。该公司的平均合同价值从 500 万美元到 600 万美元不等,这使得中小型企业无法使用其服务。虽然 Palantir 正试图通过以有吸引力的条款向商业部门提供代工平台来解决这一问题,但从长远来看,它是否会提高大多数第三方的可负担性,是否会对其财务状况产生重大影响,还为时过早。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.</p><p><blockquote>此外,虽然多头可能想否认这一点,但 Palantir 的运营方式就像一家咨询公司。该公司有一个特殊的前端部署工程师职位,他负责分析潜在客户的不同流程,然后解释 Palantir 的软件如何帮助他们改善运营。考虑到这一点,可以肯定地说,Palantir 并没有独特的商业模式,因为它的整个主张是它能比其他公司更好地分析现有数据。然而,没有什么能阻止新进入者进入该领域并提供类似的解决方案,也没有什么能阻止组织的内部 IT 部门开发更好的工具,以更实惠的价格分析所有流程。</blockquote></p><p> Another downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 的另一个缺点是,尽管最近几个季度的利润率和毛利润有所增长,但在从事该行业这么久之后,它的历史上从未盈利过。近年来,其运营亏损仅从2018年的-6亿美元扩大到2020年的-11.7亿美元,再到过去12个月的-12.2亿美元。这是由于过度的股票薪酬计划导致费用增加和大规模稀释,这是许多多头往往忽视的。别忘了,上一季度公司与 SBC 项目相关的支出同比增长约 257%,达到 1.93 亿美元。与此同时,Palantir已经有18亿股流通股,比去年底的15.2亿股有所增加。问题是,过度的 SBC 计划仍将是公司投资者面临的一个主要问题,因为仍有 4.77 亿份期权尚未行使,如果全部行使,现有股东的权益将被稀释 20% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> For that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,我们仍然认为 Palantir 的股票将继续是一项没有吸引力的投资,而且很可能继续跑输大盘。自一个月前我们发表看跌文章以来,股价已经下跌了约 15%,我们认为还有更大的贬值空间。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/facca499bd702a4193cac4eabbe4a9a2\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"443\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Chart: Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图表:寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Another reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.</p><p><blockquote>看空 Palantir 的另一个原因是,该公司内部人士,尤其是首席执行官,不断在公开市场上抛售股票,造成了巨大的抛售压力。仅在 7 月份,内部人士就总共出售了价值 6300 万美元的 Palantir 股票,仅比锁定期到期时第一季度出售的股票略少 3100 万美元。考虑到这一点,以及他们仍持有该公司约 10% 的股权,可以肯定的是,他们将继续抛售股票,造成更大的抛售压力,这很可能会阻止股票从目前的水平大幅升值。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值</b></blockquote></p><p> We created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.</p><p><blockquote>我们创建了一个贴现现金流模型来计算 Palantir 的公允价值。我们模型中的加权平均资本成本为6%,而最终增长率为3%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb588ed877784db58cfe10b7d49d6dae\" tg-width=\"772\" tg-height=\"390\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ, Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ、自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> After doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</p><p><blockquote>在进行了所有必要的计算后,我们的 DCF 模型显示,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.47 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9988abd16861dfad80d5febd22b2c1fb\" tg-width=\"404\" tg-height=\"368\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> For relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.</p><p><blockquote>对于相对估值,我们将 Palantir 与科技行业,特别是 SaaS 领域的其他八家公司进行了比较。通过查看下面的数字,我们可以有把握地说,Palantir 被其他公司严重高估了,特别是因为其 -72.8% 的 EBITDA 利润率是同行中最差的,而且市值约为 400 亿美元,其股票被高估了。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70de8f9f7b52ae29d77492ed21083982\" tg-width=\"751\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ</span></p></blockquote></p><p> By consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.</p><p><blockquote>通过合并 DCF 模型和相对估值法,并在最终分析中给予前者 75% 的权重,而在最终分析中给予后者 25 美元的权重,我们得出的结论是,Palantir 的最终公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,大大低于其目前每股约 22 美元的市场价格。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/05db90bdfb26c691331c9cdede01a87b\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"297\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> Despite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>尽管拥有先进的数据软件解决方案,但我们认为 Palantir 仍然是一项没有吸引力的投资,其股价不太可能在短期内大幅走高。该公司在市场上没有一个价格实惠的独特主张,我们完全有理由相信,由于通货膨胀加剧和竞争加剧,其支出将在未来几年继续增加,而其利润将继续受到影响。因此,尽管不时签订数百万美元的新合同,但仍很难证明其约 400 亿美元的市值是合理的。考虑到这一点,我们坚信 Palantir 现阶段不是价值投资,也不是成长型投资,因为稀释风险和持续的抛售压力可能会阻止其股票很快升值。</blockquote></p><p> While we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. For that reason, we stick to our opinion that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</p><p><blockquote>虽然我们预计该股在可预见的未来不会贬值至每股 8.22 美元的公允价值,但较目前的市场价格大幅下跌是完全有可能的,尤其是因为该公司的交易价格已经是其收入的 28 倍,被认为被高估了。因此,我们坚持认为 Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Prepare To Be Disappointed<blockquote>Palantir:做好失望的准备</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Prepare To Be Disappointed<blockquote>Palantir:做好失望的准备</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-07-27 15:23</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>We continue to believe that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</li> <li>Our analysis shows that Palantir’s fair value is $8.22 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</li> <li>The dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of Palantir’s stock anytime soon.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4ce2494cb75075c64622ebd6b351e43d\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1155\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images News</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>我们仍然认为,Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</li><li>我们的分析表明,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</li><li>稀释风险和持续的抛售压力很可能会阻止 Palantir 的股票很快升值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>凯文·迪奇/盖蒂图片社新闻</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Palantir (PLTR) has been underperforming the market in recent weeks and we believe that its stock still has more room to fall. Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir (PLTR) 最近几周的表现一直逊于市场,我们认为其股价仍有更大的下跌空间。我们的分析表明,Palantir 在当前水平上被极度高估,一些问题可能会阻止其股票在短期内进一步升值。因此,我们仍然认为,以目前的价格最好避开 Palantir,因为它的上涨空间似乎有限。</blockquote></p><p> <b>There Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore</b></p><p><blockquote><b>有几个危险信号,你不应该忽视</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir专门为其客户创建定制软件解决方案来收集数据,这些客户大多是政府机构和上市公司。虽然有些人可能认为 Palantir 是一家潜力巨大的年轻公司,但现实情况是,它并不是一家初创公司,因为它已经经营了近二十年,从那时起,它只增加了不到 200 名客户。因此,该公司接触到的组织数量有限,而这些组织产生了大部分收入。这主要是因为 Palantir 没有可扩展的业务。该公司的平均合同价值从 500 万美元到 600 万美元不等,这使得中小型企业无法使用其服务。虽然 Palantir 正试图通过以有吸引力的条款向商业部门提供代工平台来解决这一问题,但从长远来看,它是否会提高大多数第三方的可负担性,是否会对其财务状况产生重大影响,还为时过早。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.</p><p><blockquote>此外,虽然多头可能想否认这一点,但 Palantir 的运营方式就像一家咨询公司。该公司有一个特殊的前端部署工程师职位,他负责分析潜在客户的不同流程,然后解释 Palantir 的软件如何帮助他们改善运营。考虑到这一点,可以肯定地说,Palantir 并没有独特的商业模式,因为它的整个主张是它能比其他公司更好地分析现有数据。然而,没有什么能阻止新进入者进入该领域并提供类似的解决方案,也没有什么能阻止组织的内部 IT 部门开发更好的工具,以更实惠的价格分析所有流程。</blockquote></p><p> Another downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 的另一个缺点是,尽管最近几个季度的利润率和毛利润有所增长,但在从事该行业这么久之后,它的历史上从未盈利过。近年来,其运营亏损仅从2018年的-6亿美元扩大到2020年的-11.7亿美元,再到过去12个月的-12.2亿美元。这是由于过度的股票薪酬计划导致费用增加和大规模稀释,这是许多多头往往忽视的。别忘了,上一季度公司与 SBC 项目相关的支出同比增长约 257%,达到 1.93 亿美元。与此同时,Palantir已经有18亿股流通股,比去年底的15.2亿股有所增加。问题是,过度的 SBC 计划仍将是公司投资者面临的一个主要问题,因为仍有 4.77 亿份期权尚未行使,如果全部行使,现有股东的权益将被稀释 20% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> For that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,我们仍然认为 Palantir 的股票将继续是一项没有吸引力的投资,而且很可能继续跑输大盘。自一个月前我们发表看跌文章以来,股价已经下跌了约 15%,我们认为还有更大的贬值空间。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/facca499bd702a4193cac4eabbe4a9a2\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"443\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Chart: Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图表:寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Another reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.</p><p><blockquote>看空 Palantir 的另一个原因是,该公司内部人士,尤其是首席执行官,不断在公开市场上抛售股票,造成了巨大的抛售压力。仅在 7 月份,内部人士就总共出售了价值 6300 万美元的 Palantir 股票,仅比锁定期到期时第一季度出售的股票略少 3100 万美元。考虑到这一点,以及他们仍持有该公司约 10% 的股权,可以肯定的是,他们将继续抛售股票,造成更大的抛售压力,这很可能会阻止股票从目前的水平大幅升值。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值</b></blockquote></p><p> We created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.</p><p><blockquote>我们创建了一个贴现现金流模型来计算 Palantir 的公允价值。我们模型中的加权平均资本成本为6%,而最终增长率为3%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb588ed877784db58cfe10b7d49d6dae\" tg-width=\"772\" tg-height=\"390\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ, Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ、自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> After doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</p><p><blockquote>在进行了所有必要的计算后,我们的 DCF 模型显示,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.47 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9988abd16861dfad80d5febd22b2c1fb\" tg-width=\"404\" tg-height=\"368\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> For relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.</p><p><blockquote>对于相对估值,我们将 Palantir 与科技行业,特别是 SaaS 领域的其他八家公司进行了比较。通过查看下面的数字,我们可以有把握地说,Palantir 被其他公司严重高估了,特别是因为其 -72.8% 的 EBITDA 利润率是同行中最差的,而且市值约为 400 亿美元,其股票被高估了。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70de8f9f7b52ae29d77492ed21083982\" tg-width=\"751\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ</span></p></blockquote></p><p> By consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.</p><p><blockquote>通过合并 DCF 模型和相对估值法,并在最终分析中给予前者 75% 的权重,而在最终分析中给予后者 25 美元的权重,我们得出的结论是,Palantir 的最终公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,大大低于其目前每股约 22 美元的市场价格。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/05db90bdfb26c691331c9cdede01a87b\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"297\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> Despite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>尽管拥有先进的数据软件解决方案,但我们认为 Palantir 仍然是一项没有吸引力的投资,其股价不太可能在短期内大幅走高。该公司在市场上没有一个价格实惠的独特主张,我们完全有理由相信,由于通货膨胀加剧和竞争加剧,其支出将在未来几年继续增加,而其利润将继续受到影响。因此,尽管不时签订数百万美元的新合同,但仍很难证明其约 400 亿美元的市值是合理的。考虑到这一点,我们坚信 Palantir 现阶段不是价值投资,也不是成长型投资,因为稀释风险和持续的抛售压力可能会阻止其股票很快升值。</blockquote></p><p> While we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. For that reason, we stick to our opinion that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</p><p><blockquote>虽然我们预计该股在可预见的未来不会贬值至每股 8.22 美元的公允价值,但较目前的市场价格大幅下跌是完全有可能的,尤其是因为该公司的交易价格已经是其收入的 28 倍,被认为被高估了。因此,我们坚持认为 Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441334-palantir-prepare-to-be-disappointed\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441334-palantir-prepare-to-be-disappointed","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1139478455","content_text":"Summary\n\nWe continue to believe that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.\nOur analysis shows that Palantir’s fair value is $8.22 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.\nThe dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of Palantir’s stock anytime soon.\n\nKevin Dietsch/Getty Images News\nPalantir (PLTR) has been underperforming the market in recent weeks and we believe that its stock still has more room to fall. Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.\nThere Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore\nPalantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.\nIn addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.\nAnother downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.\nFor that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.\nChart: Seeking Alpha\nAnother reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.\nValuation\nWe created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.\nSource: Capital IQ, Own estimates\nAfter doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.\nSource: Own estimates\nFor relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.\nSource: Capital IQ\nBy consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.\nSource: Own estimates\nTakeaway\nDespite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.\nWhile we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗?这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112927800","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV p","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li> <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li> <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何,蔚来独特的卖点,以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择,相对于特斯拉的估值,它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而,蔚来并不是一只低风险股票,它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(蔚来)是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一,通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品,吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而,如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场,特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此,但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨,但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功,这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年,两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣,这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合,蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%,而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而,这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点,该高点在 2021 年初触及,之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价,我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识,而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的,那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资,因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨,而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处,但也有不同之处。因此,人们可以说,在某些方面,这两者是相似的,但在其他方面,它们不是。让我们看几件事:</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域,尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务,例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的,这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场,销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆,特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y,而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司,但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施,就特斯拉而言,这就是增压器网络,特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电,功率高达 250kW,具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法,为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池,这一过程只需几分钟,因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此,BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势,但应该注意的是,与蔚来的换电站相比,特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出,但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比,蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察,但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈,这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大,无论是在收入和汽车销量方面,还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车,同比增长112%,年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时,特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车,高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长,尽管略低于 100%,因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比,特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍,当我们查看两家公司的市值时,我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同,因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下,这将是完全有意义的,但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易,因为它的估值相当,同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此,特斯拉的增长预计将放缓:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元,年增长率为30%。与此同时,蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元,年增长率为 54%。因此,相对而言,预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说,这并不奇怪,因为大数定律表明,对于一家公司来说,保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难,而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错,事实上,许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比,特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋,而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时,情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元,比 2023 年预期再增长 80%,比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时,特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元,这是一个很大的数字,但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%,比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此,在 2021 年至 2025 年间,蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍,而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下,这是一个有意义的差异,应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值,就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值(OTCPK:VWAGY)。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较,我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍,而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说,蔚来目前似乎更有价值,因为当我们展望未来时,它的销售倍数要低得多。然而,这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜,因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比,即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而,蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜,即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今,蔚来比特斯拉小得多,因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是,不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少,它的股票今天有可能被严重高估,我个人也相信这一点(请注意,有些人会认为股票价格被低估,这也是可能性之一,尽管我个人并不持有这种信念)。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的,并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时,确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值,那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标,尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车,到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%,那么到 2030 年(即 9 年后),它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长,每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过,例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年,那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率,蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说,如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的,并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的,那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉(今天)一样高。当然,这是两个主要的如果,尤其是第二点,我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言,看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶,因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平,即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望,目前的预测过于乐观,尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌,处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是,特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同,因此即使蔚来达到这个水平,也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时,特斯拉的估值可能会更高,例如,如果方舟模型是正确的(我个人认为不太可能)。为了回答上述问题,人们可以说,蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元,就像特斯拉一样,但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况,到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票?</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时,它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反,投资者应该问问自己,未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少,以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险,值得一提的是,该公司尚未盈利,这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是,电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧,市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力,尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位,我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险,尽管还应该指出的是,目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说,相对于传统汽车公司的估值,整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比,即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍,与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵,尽管当然,这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型,从长远来看,其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资,蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响,然而,这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力,如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗?这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-07-24 09:16</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li> <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li> <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何,蔚来独特的卖点,以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择,相对于特斯拉的估值,它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而,蔚来并不是一只低风险股票,它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(蔚来)是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一,通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品,吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而,如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场,特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此,但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨,但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功,这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年,两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣,这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合,蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%,而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而,这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点,该高点在 2021 年初触及,之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价,我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识,而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的,那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资,因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨,而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处,但也有不同之处。因此,人们可以说,在某些方面,这两者是相似的,但在其他方面,它们不是。让我们看几件事:</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域,尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务,例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的,这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场,销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆,特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y,而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司,但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施,就特斯拉而言,这就是增压器网络,特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电,功率高达 250kW,具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法,为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池,这一过程只需几分钟,因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此,BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势,但应该注意的是,与蔚来的换电站相比,特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出,但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比,蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察,但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈,这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大,无论是在收入和汽车销量方面,还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车,同比增长112%,年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时,特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车,高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长,尽管略低于 100%,因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比,特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍,当我们查看两家公司的市值时,我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同,因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下,这将是完全有意义的,但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易,因为它的估值相当,同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此,特斯拉的增长预计将放缓:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元,年增长率为30%。与此同时,蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元,年增长率为 54%。因此,相对而言,预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说,这并不奇怪,因为大数定律表明,对于一家公司来说,保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难,而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错,事实上,许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比,特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋,而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时,情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元,比 2023 年预期再增长 80%,比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时,特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元,这是一个很大的数字,但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%,比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此,在 2021 年至 2025 年间,蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍,而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下,这是一个有意义的差异,应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值,就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值(OTCPK:VWAGY)。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较,我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍,而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说,蔚来目前似乎更有价值,因为当我们展望未来时,它的销售倍数要低得多。然而,这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜,因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比,即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而,蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜,即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今,蔚来比特斯拉小得多,因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是,不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少,它的股票今天有可能被严重高估,我个人也相信这一点(请注意,有些人会认为股票价格被低估,这也是可能性之一,尽管我个人并不持有这种信念)。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的,并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时,确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值,那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标,尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车,到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%,那么到 2030 年(即 9 年后),它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长,每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过,例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年,那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率,蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说,如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的,并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的,那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉(今天)一样高。当然,这是两个主要的如果,尤其是第二点,我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言,看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶,因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平,即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望,目前的预测过于乐观,尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌,处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是,特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同,因此即使蔚来达到这个水平,也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时,特斯拉的估值可能会更高,例如,如果方舟模型是正确的(我个人认为不太可能)。为了回答上述问题,人们可以说,蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元,就像特斯拉一样,但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况,到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票?</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时,它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反,投资者应该问问自己,未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少,以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险,值得一提的是,该公司尚未盈利,这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是,电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧,市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力,尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位,我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险,尽管还应该指出的是,目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说,相对于传统汽车公司的估值,整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比,即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍,与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵,尽管当然,这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型,从长远来看,其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资,蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响,然而,这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力,如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112927800","content_text":"Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.\nNIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.\n\nipopba/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nNIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.\nNIO And TSLA Stock Prices\nBoth companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.\nData by YCharts\nTaking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.\nIs NIO Similar To Tesla?\nThe answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:\nBusiness Model\nBoth companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.\nBoth companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.\nSize, growth, and valuation\nThe two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.\nTesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:\nData by YCharts\nTesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.\nThe same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).\nLooking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.\nCan NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?\nThe answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).\nWhen we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.\nIt should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.\nIs NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?\nWhen considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.\nOne could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. 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No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Dig","content":"<p>The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度业绩游行本周继续。除了数百家小盘股公司外,还有不少于 143 家标普500公司正在提交报告。法拉利、Vornado Realty Trust、Take-Two Interactive Software 和 Simon Property Group 将于周一启动。随后,Lyft、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、尼古拉、安德玛、礼来公司和康菲石油公司将于周二发布业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.</p><p><blockquote>周三将特别繁忙:通用汽车、优步科技、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Roku、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏和软银均有报道。Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Moderna 和 ViacomCBS 将于周四关闭,DraftKings、Canopy Growth 和 Tripadvisor 将于周五关闭本周。中国教育公司新东方教育科技集团公司和好未来教育集团取消了原定的财报发布和财报看涨期权。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94057bf11ca8d7311db6c075ba98727b\" tg-width=\"1706\" tg-height=\"740\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.</p><p><blockquote>本周经济日历上的亮点将是周五的就业。美国劳工统计局(Bureau of Labor Statistics)预计,继 6 月份的 85 万人之后,7 月份非农就业人数将增加 62.5 万人。失业率略低于6%。</blockquote></p><p> Other data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.</p><p><blockquote>本周公布的其他数据包括周一公布的美国供应管理协会(Institute for Supply Management)7 月份制造业采购经理人指数,随后是周三公布的服务业同等指数。这两项经济活动指标预计都将达到 61 左右,这将意味着强劲的扩张。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Monday 8/2</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期一 8/2</b></blockquote></p><p> CNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.</p><p><blockquote>CNA Financial、Global Payments、JELD-WEN Holding、Loews、Arista Networks、Leggett & Platt、Vornado Realty Trust、ZoomInfo Technologies、Woodward、Take-Two Interactive Software、Heineken、Trex、Ferrari、Ultra Clean Holdings 和 Simon Property Group 预计将发布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> GE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.</p><p><blockquote>通用电气股票周一开盘价约为每股 104 美元,周五收盘价为 12.95 美元。该公司于周五晚上完成了 1 比 8 的反向股票分割。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Institute for Supply</b> Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>供应研究所</b>管理层发布 7 月份制造业采购经理人指数。普遍估计读数为 60.8,高于 6 月份的 60.6。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>报告6月份的建筑支出。继 5 月份下降 0.3% 后,预计环比增长 0.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Tuesday 8/3</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期二 8/3</b></blockquote></p><p> Eaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>伊顿、英国石油公司、安德玛、Lyft、高乐氏、安进、Akamai Technologies、康明斯、礼来公司、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、Nikola、EnPro Industries、华纳音乐集团、Pitney Bowes、Tennant、Phillips 66、KKR、Gartner、Henry Schein、邓白氏控股公司、康菲石油公司和 Jacobs Engineering Group 在评级举办会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>预计将报告六月份的工厂订单。经济学家预测,本月订单增长1.0%,而5月份增长1.7%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Wednesday 8/4</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期三 8/4</b></blockquote></p><p> Sony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.</p><p><blockquote>索尼集团、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏、软银、通用汽车、Progressive、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Uber Technologies、Roku、米高梅国际酒店集团、福克斯和 Re/Max Holdings 预计将主办财报评级。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Bureau of Economic</b> Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>经济局</b>分析报告 7 月份轻型汽车销量。预计看涨期权经季节性调整后的年增长率为 1530 万辆,而 6 月份为 1540 万辆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The ISM releases</b> its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.</p><p><blockquote><b>ISM发布</b>7月份服务业采购经理人指数。一致估计读数为 60.8,而 6 月份的读数为 60.1。</blockquote></p><p> <b>ADP releases</b> its National Employment report for July. Consensus estimate is for a 635,000 gain in nonfarm private-sector employment, following an increase of 692,000 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>ADP释放</b>其7月份的全国就业报告。普遍估计,继 6 月份增加 692,000 人之后,非农私营部门就业人数将增加 635,000 人。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Thursday 8/5</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期四 8/5</b></blockquote></p><p> Zillow Group,Beyond Meat, Yelp, Wayfair, Kellogg,Bayer,HanesBrands, Moderna,Regeneron Pharmaceuticals,Switch,Cushman & Wakefield,ViacomCBS,Cigna,Duke Energy,Square,News Corp,and Siemensare expected to report financial results.</p><p><blockquote>Zillow Group、Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Kellogg、Bayer、HanesBrands、Moderna、Regeneron Pharmaceuticals、Switch、Cushman & Wakefield、ViacomCBS、Cigna、Duke Energy、Square、新闻集团和西门子预计将公布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Friday 8/6</p><p><blockquote>星期五 8/6</blockquote></p><p> <b>The BLS releases the jobs report</b> for July. Economists forecast a 800,000 rise in nonfarm payrolls, after an 850,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to edge down to 5.8% from 5.9%.</p><p><blockquote><b>BLS 发布就业报告</b>七月。经济学家预测,继6月份增加85万人之后,非农就业人数将增加80万人。失业率预计将从5.9%小幅降至5.8%。</blockquote></p><p> DraftKings,Dominion Energy,Gannett,MGM Growth Properties,AMC Networks,Canopy Growth, Tripadvisor,Spectrum Brands Holdings,E.W. Scripps,Cinemark Holdings, and Manitowoc host conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>DraftKings、Dominion Energy、Gannett、MGM Growth Properties、AMC Networks、Canopy Growth、Tripadvisor、Spectrum Brands Holdings、E.W。Scripps、Cinemark Holdings 和 Manitowoc 主办评级会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba,Uber, DraftKings, GM, Roku, EA, ViacomCBS, and Other Stocks for Investors to Watch This Week<blockquote>阿里巴巴、Uber、DraftKings、通用汽车、Roku、EA、维亚康姆哥伦比亚广播公司和其他投资者本周值得关注的股票</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-08-02 06:39</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>第二季度业绩游行本周继续。除了数百家小盘股公司外,还有不少于 143 家标普500公司正在提交报告。法拉利、Vornado Realty Trust、Take-Two Interactive Software 和 Simon Property Group 将于周一启动。随后,Lyft、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、尼古拉、安德玛、礼来公司和康菲石油公司将于周二发布业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Wednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.</p><p><blockquote>周三将特别繁忙:通用汽车、优步科技、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Roku、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏和软银均有报道。Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Moderna 和 ViacomCBS 将于周四关闭,DraftKings、Canopy Growth 和 Tripadvisor 将于周五关闭本周。中国教育公司新东方教育科技集团公司和好未来教育集团取消了原定的财报发布和财报看涨期权。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/94057bf11ca8d7311db6c075ba98727b\" tg-width=\"1706\" tg-height=\"740\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.</p><p><blockquote>本周经济日历上的亮点将是周五的就业。美国劳工统计局(Bureau of Labor Statistics)预计,继 6 月份的 85 万人之后,7 月份非农就业人数将增加 62.5 万人。失业率略低于6%。</blockquote></p><p> Other data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.</p><p><blockquote>本周公布的其他数据包括周一公布的美国供应管理协会(Institute for Supply Management)7 月份制造业采购经理人指数,随后是周三公布的服务业同等指数。这两项经济活动指标预计都将达到 61 左右,这将意味着强劲的扩张。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Monday 8/2</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期一 8/2</b></blockquote></p><p> CNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.</p><p><blockquote>CNA Financial、Global Payments、JELD-WEN Holding、Loews、Arista Networks、Leggett & Platt、Vornado Realty Trust、ZoomInfo Technologies、Woodward、Take-Two Interactive Software、Heineken、Trex、Ferrari、Ultra Clean Holdings 和 Simon Property Group 预计将发布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> GE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.</p><p><blockquote>通用电气股票周一开盘价约为每股 104 美元,周五收盘价为 12.95 美元。该公司于周五晚上完成了 1 比 8 的反向股票分割。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Institute for Supply</b> Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>供应研究所</b>管理层发布 7 月份制造业采购经理人指数。普遍估计读数为 60.8,高于 6 月份的 60.6。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>报告6月份的建筑支出。继 5 月份下降 0.3% 后,预计环比增长 0.4%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Tuesday 8/3</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期二 8/3</b></blockquote></p><p> Eaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>伊顿、英国石油公司、安德玛、Lyft、高乐氏、安进、Akamai Technologies、康明斯、礼来公司、阿里巴巴-SW集团控股公司、Nikola、EnPro Industries、华纳音乐集团、Pitney Bowes、Tennant、Phillips 66、KKR、Gartner、Henry Schein、邓白氏控股公司、康菲石油公司和 Jacobs Engineering Group 在评级举办会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Census Bureau</b> is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.</p><p><blockquote><b>人口普查局</b>预计将报告六月份的工厂订单。经济学家预测,本月订单增长1.0%,而5月份增长1.7%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Wednesday 8/4</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期三 8/4</b></blockquote></p><p> Sony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.</p><p><blockquote>索尼集团、CVS Health、卡夫亨氏、软银、通用汽车、Progressive、Etsy、艺电、西部数据、Uber Technologies、Roku、米高梅国际酒店集团、福克斯和 Re/Max Holdings 预计将主办财报评级。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Bureau of Economic</b> Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>经济局</b>分析报告 7 月份轻型汽车销量。预计看涨期权经季节性调整后的年增长率为 1530 万辆,而 6 月份为 1540 万辆。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The ISM releases</b> its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.</p><p><blockquote><b>ISM发布</b>7月份服务业采购经理人指数。一致估计读数为 60.8,而 6 月份的读数为 60.1。</blockquote></p><p> <b>ADP releases</b> its National Employment report for July. Consensus estimate is for a 635,000 gain in nonfarm private-sector employment, following an increase of 692,000 in June.</p><p><blockquote><b>ADP释放</b>其7月份的全国就业报告。普遍估计,继 6 月份增加 692,000 人之后,非农私营部门就业人数将增加 635,000 人。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Thursday 8/5</b></p><p><blockquote><b>星期四 8/5</b></blockquote></p><p> Zillow Group,Beyond Meat, Yelp, Wayfair, Kellogg,Bayer,HanesBrands, Moderna,Regeneron Pharmaceuticals,Switch,Cushman & Wakefield,ViacomCBS,Cigna,Duke Energy,Square,News Corp,and Siemensare expected to report financial results.</p><p><blockquote>Zillow Group、Beyond Meat、Yelp、Wayfair、Kellogg、Bayer、HanesBrands、Moderna、Regeneron Pharmaceuticals、Switch、Cushman & Wakefield、ViacomCBS、Cigna、Duke Energy、Square、新闻集团和西门子预计将公布财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p> Friday 8/6</p><p><blockquote>星期五 8/6</blockquote></p><p> <b>The BLS releases the jobs report</b> for July. Economists forecast a 800,000 rise in nonfarm payrolls, after an 850,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to edge down to 5.8% from 5.9%.</p><p><blockquote><b>BLS 发布就业报告</b>七月。经济学家预测,继6月份增加85万人之后,非农就业人数将增加80万人。失业率预计将从5.9%小幅降至5.8%。</blockquote></p><p> DraftKings,Dominion Energy,Gannett,MGM Growth Properties,AMC Networks,Canopy Growth, Tripadvisor,Spectrum Brands Holdings,E.W. Scripps,Cinemark Holdings, and Manitowoc host conference calls to discuss financial results.</p><p><blockquote>DraftKings、Dominion Energy、Gannett、MGM Growth Properties、AMC Networks、Canopy Growth、Tripadvisor、Spectrum Brands Holdings、E.W。Scripps、Cinemark Holdings 和 Manitowoc 主办评级会议讨论财务业绩。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","UBER":"优步","BABA":"阿里巴巴","ROKU":"Roku Inc",".DJI":"道琼斯","DKNG":"DraftKings Inc.","GE":"GE航空航天",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","GM":"通用汽车","EA":"艺电"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1170689665","content_text":"The parade of second-quarter results continues this week. No fewer than 143 S&P 500 companies are on deck to report, in addition to hundreds of small caps. Ferrari, Vornado Realty Trust, Take-Two Interactive Software, and Simon Property Group will get the ball rolling on Monday. Then Lyft, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, Under Armour, Eli Lilly, and ConocoPhillips release their results on Tuesday.\nWednesday will be particularly busy:General Motors,Uber Technologies,Etsy,Electronic Arts,Western Digital,Roku,CVS Health,Kraft Heinz, and SoftBank all report.Beyond Meat,Yelp,Wayfair, Moderna, and ViacomCBS go on Thursday and DraftKings,Canopy Growth,and Tripadvisor will close the week on Friday.Chinese Education Corporation New Oriental Education & Technology Group Inc. and TAL Education Group cancels scheduled earnings release and earnings call.\n\nThe highlight on the economic calendar this week will be Jobs Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is expected to show a gain of 625,000 nonfarm payrolls in July, following June’s 850,000. The unemployment rate is seen holding just below 6%.\nOther data out this week include the Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July on Monday, followed by the Services equivalent on Wednesday. Both measures of economic activity are forecast to come in at around 61, which would signify strong expansion.\nMonday 8/2\nCNA Financial,Global Payments,JELD-WEN Holding,Loews,Arista Networks,Leggett & Platt,Vornado Realty Trust, ZoomInfo Technologies, Woodward, Take-Two Interactive Software, Heineken, Trex, Ferrari,Ultra Clean Holdings,and Simon Property Group are expected to release financial results.\nGE stock will open for trading Monday at about $104 a share, after closing Friday at $12.95. The company completed its 1-for-8 reverse stock split Friday evening.\nThe Institute for Supply Management releases its Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, up from 60.6 in June.\nThe Census Bureau reports construction spending for June. Expectations are for a 0.4% month-over-month rise, after a 0.3% decline in May.\nTuesday 8/3\nEaton, BP, Under Armour, Lyft,Clorox,Amgen,Akamai Technologies,Cummins, Eli Lilly, Alibaba Group Holding, Nikola, EnPro Industries,Warner Music Group,Pitney Bowes,Tennant,Phillips 66,KKR,Gartner,Henry Schein,Dun & Bradstreet Holdings,ConocoPhillips, and Jacobs Engineering Grouphost conference calls to discuss financial results.\nThe Census Bureau is slated to report factory orders for June. Economists predict that orders increased 1.0% during the month, compared with a 1.7% rise in May.\nWednesday 8/4\nSony Group,CVS Health, Kraft Heinz, SoftBank, General Motors, Progressive, Etsy, Electronic Arts, Western Digital, Uber Technologies, Roku,MGM Resorts International,Fox, and Re/Max Holdings are expected to host earnings calls.\nThe Bureau of Economic Analysis reports light-vehicle sales for July. Expectations call for a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 15.3 million vehicles, versus 15.4 million in June.\nThe ISM releases its Services PMI for July. Consensus estimate is for a 60.8 reading, compared with June’s 60.1.\nADP releases its National Employment report for July. 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Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir (PLTR) 最近几周的表现一直逊于市场,我们认为其股价仍有更大的下跌空间。我们的分析表明,Palantir 在当前水平上被极度高估,一些问题可能会阻止其股票在短期内进一步升值。因此,我们仍然认为,以目前的价格最好避开 Palantir,因为它的上涨空间似乎有限。</blockquote></p><p> <b>There Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore</b></p><p><blockquote><b>有几个危险信号,你不应该忽视</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir专门为其客户创建定制软件解决方案来收集数据,这些客户大多是政府机构和上市公司。虽然有些人可能认为 Palantir 是一家潜力巨大的年轻公司,但现实情况是,它并不是一家初创公司,因为它已经经营了近二十年,从那时起,它只增加了不到 200 名客户。因此,该公司接触到的组织数量有限,而这些组织产生了大部分收入。这主要是因为 Palantir 没有可扩展的业务。该公司的平均合同价值从 500 万美元到 600 万美元不等,这使得中小型企业无法使用其服务。虽然 Palantir 正试图通过以有吸引力的条款向商业部门提供代工平台来解决这一问题,但从长远来看,它是否会提高大多数第三方的可负担性,是否会对其财务状况产生重大影响,还为时过早。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.</p><p><blockquote>此外,虽然多头可能想否认这一点,但 Palantir 的运营方式就像一家咨询公司。该公司有一个特殊的前端部署工程师职位,他负责分析潜在客户的不同流程,然后解释 Palantir 的软件如何帮助他们改善运营。考虑到这一点,可以肯定地说,Palantir 并没有独特的商业模式,因为它的整个主张是它能比其他公司更好地分析现有数据。然而,没有什么能阻止新进入者进入该领域并提供类似的解决方案,也没有什么能阻止组织的内部 IT 部门开发更好的工具,以更实惠的价格分析所有流程。</blockquote></p><p> Another downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 的另一个缺点是,尽管最近几个季度的利润率和毛利润有所增长,但在从事该行业这么久之后,它的历史上从未盈利过。近年来,其运营亏损仅从2018年的-6亿美元扩大到2020年的-11.7亿美元,再到过去12个月的-12.2亿美元。这是由于过度的股票薪酬计划导致费用增加和大规模稀释,这是许多多头往往忽视的。别忘了,上一季度公司与 SBC 项目相关的支出同比增长约 257%,达到 1.93 亿美元。与此同时,Palantir已经有18亿股流通股,比去年底的15.2亿股有所增加。问题是,过度的 SBC 计划仍将是公司投资者面临的一个主要问题,因为仍有 4.77 亿份期权尚未行使,如果全部行使,现有股东的权益将被稀释 20% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> For that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,我们仍然认为 Palantir 的股票将继续是一项没有吸引力的投资,而且很可能继续跑输大盘。自一个月前我们发表看跌文章以来,股价已经下跌了约 15%,我们认为还有更大的贬值空间。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/facca499bd702a4193cac4eabbe4a9a2\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"443\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Chart: Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图表:寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Another reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.</p><p><blockquote>看空 Palantir 的另一个原因是,该公司内部人士,尤其是首席执行官,不断在公开市场上抛售股票,造成了巨大的抛售压力。仅在 7 月份,内部人士就总共出售了价值 6300 万美元的 Palantir 股票,仅比锁定期到期时第一季度出售的股票略少 3100 万美元。考虑到这一点,以及他们仍持有该公司约 10% 的股权,可以肯定的是,他们将继续抛售股票,造成更大的抛售压力,这很可能会阻止股票从目前的水平大幅升值。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值</b></blockquote></p><p> We created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.</p><p><blockquote>我们创建了一个贴现现金流模型来计算 Palantir 的公允价值。我们模型中的加权平均资本成本为6%,而最终增长率为3%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb588ed877784db58cfe10b7d49d6dae\" tg-width=\"772\" tg-height=\"390\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ, Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ、自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> After doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</p><p><blockquote>在进行了所有必要的计算后,我们的 DCF 模型显示,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.47 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9988abd16861dfad80d5febd22b2c1fb\" tg-width=\"404\" tg-height=\"368\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> For relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.</p><p><blockquote>对于相对估值,我们将 Palantir 与科技行业,特别是 SaaS 领域的其他八家公司进行了比较。通过查看下面的数字,我们可以有把握地说,Palantir 被其他公司严重高估了,特别是因为其 -72.8% 的 EBITDA 利润率是同行中最差的,而且市值约为 400 亿美元,其股票被高估了。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70de8f9f7b52ae29d77492ed21083982\" tg-width=\"751\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ</span></p></blockquote></p><p> By consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.</p><p><blockquote>通过合并 DCF 模型和相对估值法,并在最终分析中给予前者 75% 的权重,而在最终分析中给予后者 25 美元的权重,我们得出的结论是,Palantir 的最终公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,大大低于其目前每股约 22 美元的市场价格。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/05db90bdfb26c691331c9cdede01a87b\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"297\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> Despite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>尽管拥有先进的数据软件解决方案,但我们认为 Palantir 仍然是一项没有吸引力的投资,其股价不太可能在短期内大幅走高。该公司在市场上没有一个价格实惠的独特主张,我们完全有理由相信,由于通货膨胀加剧和竞争加剧,其支出将在未来几年继续增加,而其利润将继续受到影响。因此,尽管不时签订数百万美元的新合同,但仍很难证明其约 400 亿美元的市值是合理的。考虑到这一点,我们坚信 Palantir 现阶段不是价值投资,也不是成长型投资,因为稀释风险和持续的抛售压力可能会阻止其股票很快升值。</blockquote></p><p> While we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. For that reason, we stick to our opinion that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</p><p><blockquote>虽然我们预计该股在可预见的未来不会贬值至每股 8.22 美元的公允价值,但较目前的市场价格大幅下跌是完全有可能的,尤其是因为该公司的交易价格已经是其收入的 28 倍,被认为被高估了。因此,我们坚持认为 Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Prepare To Be Disappointed<blockquote>Palantir:做好失望的准备</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Prepare To Be Disappointed<blockquote>Palantir:做好失望的准备</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-07-27 15:23</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>We continue to believe that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</li> <li>Our analysis shows that Palantir’s fair value is $8.22 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</li> <li>The dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of Palantir’s stock anytime soon.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4ce2494cb75075c64622ebd6b351e43d\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1155\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images News</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>我们仍然认为,Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</li><li>我们的分析表明,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</li><li>稀释风险和持续的抛售压力很可能会阻止 Palantir 的股票很快升值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>凯文·迪奇/盖蒂图片社新闻</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Palantir (PLTR) has been underperforming the market in recent weeks and we believe that its stock still has more room to fall. Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir (PLTR) 最近几周的表现一直逊于市场,我们认为其股价仍有更大的下跌空间。我们的分析表明,Palantir 在当前水平上被极度高估,一些问题可能会阻止其股票在短期内进一步升值。因此,我们仍然认为,以目前的价格最好避开 Palantir,因为它的上涨空间似乎有限。</blockquote></p><p> <b>There Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore</b></p><p><blockquote><b>有几个危险信号,你不应该忽视</b></blockquote></p><p> Palantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir专门为其客户创建定制软件解决方案来收集数据,这些客户大多是政府机构和上市公司。虽然有些人可能认为 Palantir 是一家潜力巨大的年轻公司,但现实情况是,它并不是一家初创公司,因为它已经经营了近二十年,从那时起,它只增加了不到 200 名客户。因此,该公司接触到的组织数量有限,而这些组织产生了大部分收入。这主要是因为 Palantir 没有可扩展的业务。该公司的平均合同价值从 500 万美元到 600 万美元不等,这使得中小型企业无法使用其服务。虽然 Palantir 正试图通过以有吸引力的条款向商业部门提供代工平台来解决这一问题,但从长远来看,它是否会提高大多数第三方的可负担性,是否会对其财务状况产生重大影响,还为时过早。</blockquote></p><p> In addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.</p><p><blockquote>此外,虽然多头可能想否认这一点,但 Palantir 的运营方式就像一家咨询公司。该公司有一个特殊的前端部署工程师职位,他负责分析潜在客户的不同流程,然后解释 Palantir 的软件如何帮助他们改善运营。考虑到这一点,可以肯定地说,Palantir 并没有独特的商业模式,因为它的整个主张是它能比其他公司更好地分析现有数据。然而,没有什么能阻止新进入者进入该领域并提供类似的解决方案,也没有什么能阻止组织的内部 IT 部门开发更好的工具,以更实惠的价格分析所有流程。</blockquote></p><p> Another downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.</p><p><blockquote>Palantir 的另一个缺点是,尽管最近几个季度的利润率和毛利润有所增长,但在从事该行业这么久之后,它的历史上从未盈利过。近年来,其运营亏损仅从2018年的-6亿美元扩大到2020年的-11.7亿美元,再到过去12个月的-12.2亿美元。这是由于过度的股票薪酬计划导致费用增加和大规模稀释,这是许多多头往往忽视的。别忘了,上一季度公司与 SBC 项目相关的支出同比增长约 257%,达到 1.93 亿美元。与此同时,Palantir已经有18亿股流通股,比去年底的15.2亿股有所增加。问题是,过度的 SBC 计划仍将是公司投资者面临的一个主要问题,因为仍有 4.77 亿份期权尚未行使,如果全部行使,现有股东的权益将被稀释 20% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> For that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,我们仍然认为 Palantir 的股票将继续是一项没有吸引力的投资,而且很可能继续跑输大盘。自一个月前我们发表看跌文章以来,股价已经下跌了约 15%,我们认为还有更大的贬值空间。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/facca499bd702a4193cac4eabbe4a9a2\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"443\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Chart: Seeking Alpha</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>图表:寻求阿尔法</span></p></blockquote></p><p></p><p> Another reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.</p><p><blockquote>看空 Palantir 的另一个原因是,该公司内部人士,尤其是首席执行官,不断在公开市场上抛售股票,造成了巨大的抛售压力。仅在 7 月份,内部人士就总共出售了价值 6300 万美元的 Palantir 股票,仅比锁定期到期时第一季度出售的股票略少 3100 万美元。考虑到这一点,以及他们仍持有该公司约 10% 的股权,可以肯定的是,他们将继续抛售股票,造成更大的抛售压力,这很可能会阻止股票从目前的水平大幅升值。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>估值</b></blockquote></p><p> We created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.</p><p><blockquote>我们创建了一个贴现现金流模型来计算 Palantir 的公允价值。我们模型中的加权平均资本成本为6%,而最终增长率为3%。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bb588ed877784db58cfe10b7d49d6dae\" tg-width=\"772\" tg-height=\"390\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ, Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ、自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> After doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.</p><p><blockquote>在进行了所有必要的计算后,我们的 DCF 模型显示,Palantir 的公允价值为每股 8.47 美元,比当前市场价格下跌了 60% 以上。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9988abd16861dfad80d5febd22b2c1fb\" tg-width=\"404\" tg-height=\"368\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> For relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.</p><p><blockquote>对于相对估值,我们将 Palantir 与科技行业,特别是 SaaS 领域的其他八家公司进行了比较。通过查看下面的数字,我们可以有把握地说,Palantir 被其他公司严重高估了,特别是因为其 -72.8% 的 EBITDA 利润率是同行中最差的,而且市值约为 400 亿美元,其股票被高估了。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70de8f9f7b52ae29d77492ed21083982\" tg-width=\"751\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Capital IQ</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:Capital IQ</span></p></blockquote></p><p> By consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.</p><p><blockquote>通过合并 DCF 模型和相对估值法,并在最终分析中给予前者 75% 的权重,而在最终分析中给予后者 25 美元的权重,我们得出的结论是,Palantir 的最终公允价值为每股 8.22 美元,大大低于其目前每股约 22 美元的市场价格。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/05db90bdfb26c691331c9cdede01a87b\" tg-width=\"595\" tg-height=\"297\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Source: Own estimates</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>资料来源:自己的估计</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Takeaway</b></p><p><blockquote><b>外卖</b></blockquote></p><p> Despite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.</p><p><blockquote>尽管拥有先进的数据软件解决方案,但我们认为 Palantir 仍然是一项没有吸引力的投资,其股价不太可能在短期内大幅走高。该公司在市场上没有一个价格实惠的独特主张,我们完全有理由相信,由于通货膨胀加剧和竞争加剧,其支出将在未来几年继续增加,而其利润将继续受到影响。因此,尽管不时签订数百万美元的新合同,但仍很难证明其约 400 亿美元的市值是合理的。考虑到这一点,我们坚信 Palantir 现阶段不是价值投资,也不是成长型投资,因为稀释风险和持续的抛售压力可能会阻止其股票很快升值。</blockquote></p><p> While we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. For that reason, we stick to our opinion that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.</p><p><blockquote>虽然我们预计该股在可预见的未来不会贬值至每股 8.22 美元的公允价值,但较目前的市场价格大幅下跌是完全有可能的,尤其是因为该公司的交易价格已经是其收入的 28 倍,被认为被高估了。因此,我们坚持认为 Palantir 的上涨空间似乎有限,其未来的增长已经被考虑在内。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441334-palantir-prepare-to-be-disappointed\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441334-palantir-prepare-to-be-disappointed","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1139478455","content_text":"Summary\n\nWe continue to believe that Palantir’s upside appears to be limited and its future growth is already priced in.\nOur analysis shows that Palantir’s fair value is $8.22 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.\nThe dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of Palantir’s stock anytime soon.\n\nKevin Dietsch/Getty Images News\nPalantir (PLTR) has been underperforming the market in recent weeks and we believe that its stock still has more room to fall. Our analysis shows that Palantir is extremely overvalued at the current levels and several issues are likely going to prevent its stock from appreciating further anytime soon. For that reason, we continue to believe that it’s better to avoid Palantir at the current price, as its upside appears to be limited.\nThere Are Several Red Flags, Which You Shouldn’t Ignore\nPalantir specializes in creating custom software solutions for collecting data for its clients, who are mostly government agencies and public companies. While some might think that Palantir is a young company with lots of potential, the reality is that it’s not a startup, as it has been in the business for almost two decades already, and since that time it has managed to add less than 200 customers. As a result, the company is exposed to a limited pool of organizations, who generate most of the revenues. This is mostly because Palantir doesn’t have a scalable business. The value of the company’s average contract ranges from $5 million to $6 million, which prevents small and medium businesses from using its services. While Palantir tries to tackle this issue by offering its Foundry platform for the commercial sector at attractive terms, it’s still too soon to tell whether it will improve its affordability to most of the third parties and have any major impact on its financials in the long run.\nIn addition, while bulls might want to deny this, but Palantir operates like a consulting company. The company has a special position of a forward-deployed engineer, who analyzes different processes of potential clients and then explains how Palantir’s software could help them improve their operations. Considering this, it’s safe to say that Palantir doesn’t have a unique business model since its whole proposition is that it can analyze the available data better than others. However, nothing stops new entrants from entering the field and offering similar solutions, and nothing stops organizations' internal IT departments from developing better tools to analyze all of the processes at a more affordable price.\nAnother downside of Palantir is that despite the increase in margins and gross profit in recent quarters, it never made a profit in its history after being so long in the business. Its operating loss has onlywidenedin recent years from -$600 million in 2018 to -$1.17 billion in 2020, to -$1.22 billion in the last twelve months. This is due to the excessive stock-based compensation program that results in increased expenses and massive dilution, which is something that a lot of bulls tend to ignore. Let’s not forget that the company’s expenses relating to the SBC program increased by around 257% year over year last quarter and were $193 million. At the same time, Palantir already has 1.8 billion shares outstanding, an increase from 1.52 billion shares, which were outstanding at the end of last year. The problem is that the excessive SBC program will continue to be a major issue for the company’s investors since there are still 477 million optionsoutstanding, which will dilute the current shareholders by more than 20% if fully exercised.\nFor that reason, we continue to believe that Palantir’s stock will continue to be an unattractive investment and it’ll likely continue to underperform the market. It’s already down ~15% since our bearisharticlewas published a month ago and we believe that there’s more room for a depreciation.\nChart: Seeking Alpha\nAnother reason to be bearish about Palantir is due to the fact that there’s an extreme selling pressure, which is created by the company’s insiders and its CEO in particular, who are constantly dumping their shares on an open market. In July alone insiderssoldin total $63 million worth of Palantir shares, which is only $31 million slightly less than what they sold in Q1 when the lockup period expired. Considering this and the fact that they still have ~10% ownership stake in the company, it’s safe to assume they’ll continue to sell their shares and create an even greater selling pressure, which is likely going to prevent the stock from significantly appreciating from the current levels.\nValuation\nWe created a discounted cash flow model to find Palantir’s fair value. The weighted average cost of capital in our model is 6%, while the terminal growth rate is 3%.\nSource: Capital IQ, Own estimates\nAfter doing all the necessary calculations, our DCF model showed that Palantir’s fair value is $8.47 per share, which represents a downside of over 60% from the current market price.\nSource: Own estimates\nFor relative valuation, we compared Palantir to eight other companies from the tech industry and the SaaS niche in particular. By looking at the numbers below, we could safely say that Palantir is extremely overvalued to others, especially since its EBITDA margin of -72.8% is the worst among its peers, and at a market cap of ~$40 billion, its stock is overpriced.\nSource: Capital IQ\nBy consolidating the DCF model and the relative valuation method and giving the former 75% weight in the final analysis, while giving the latter 25$ weight in the final analysis, we concluded that Palantir’s final fair value is $8.22 per share, which is significantly below its current market price of ~$22 per share.\nSource: Own estimates\nTakeaway\nDespite its advanced data software solutions, Palantir continues to be an unattractive investment in our opinion and its stock is unlikely to move significantly higher anytime soon. The company doesn’t have a unique proposition at an affordable price on the market and there’s every reason to believe that its expenses will continue to increase in the following years due to the higher inflation and increased competition, while its bottom line will continue to suffer. As a result, despite signing new multi-million contracts from time to time, it’s still hard to justify its ~$40 billion market cap. Considering this, we strongly believe that Palantir is not a value investment at this stage, and not a growth play as well since the dilution risk and the continuous selling pressure are likely going to prevent the appreciation of its stock anytime soon.\nWhile we don’t expect the stock to depreciate to its fair value of $8.22 per share in the foreseeable future, a decent decline from the current market price is more than possible, especially since the company already trades at 28 times its revenues and is considered to be overvalued. 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗?这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112927800","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV p","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li> <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li> <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何,蔚来独特的卖点,以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择,相对于特斯拉的估值,它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而,蔚来并不是一只低风险股票,它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(蔚来)是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一,通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品,吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而,如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场,特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此,但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨,但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功,这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年,两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣,这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合,蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%,而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而,这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点,该高点在 2021 年初触及,之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价,我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识,而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的,那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资,因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨,而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处,但也有不同之处。因此,人们可以说,在某些方面,这两者是相似的,但在其他方面,它们不是。让我们看几件事:</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域,尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务,例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的,这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场,销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆,特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y,而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司,但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施,就特斯拉而言,这就是增压器网络,特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电,功率高达 250kW,具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法,为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池,这一过程只需几分钟,因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此,BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势,但应该注意的是,与蔚来的换电站相比,特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出,但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比,蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察,但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈,这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大,无论是在收入和汽车销量方面,还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车,同比增长112%,年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时,特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车,高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长,尽管略低于 100%,因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比,特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍,当我们查看两家公司的市值时,我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同,因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下,这将是完全有意义的,但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易,因为它的估值相当,同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此,特斯拉的增长预计将放缓:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元,年增长率为30%。与此同时,蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元,年增长率为 54%。因此,相对而言,预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说,这并不奇怪,因为大数定律表明,对于一家公司来说,保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难,而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错,事实上,许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比,特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋,而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时,情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元,比 2023 年预期再增长 80%,比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时,特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元,这是一个很大的数字,但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%,比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此,在 2021 年至 2025 年间,蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍,而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下,这是一个有意义的差异,应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值,就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值(OTCPK:VWAGY)。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较,我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍,而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说,蔚来目前似乎更有价值,因为当我们展望未来时,它的销售倍数要低得多。然而,这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜,因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比,即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而,蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜,即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今,蔚来比特斯拉小得多,因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是,不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少,它的股票今天有可能被严重高估,我个人也相信这一点(请注意,有些人会认为股票价格被低估,这也是可能性之一,尽管我个人并不持有这种信念)。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的,并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时,确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值,那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标,尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车,到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%,那么到 2030 年(即 9 年后),它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长,每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过,例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年,那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率,蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说,如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的,并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的,那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉(今天)一样高。当然,这是两个主要的如果,尤其是第二点,我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言,看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶,因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平,即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望,目前的预测过于乐观,尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌,处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是,特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同,因此即使蔚来达到这个水平,也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时,特斯拉的估值可能会更高,例如,如果方舟模型是正确的(我个人认为不太可能)。为了回答上述问题,人们可以说,蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元,就像特斯拉一样,但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况,到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票?</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时,它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反,投资者应该问问自己,未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少,以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险,值得一提的是,该公司尚未盈利,这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是,电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧,市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力,尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位,我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险,尽管还应该指出的是,目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说,相对于传统汽车公司的估值,整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比,即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍,与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵,尽管当然,这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型,从长远来看,其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资,蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响,然而,这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力,如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks<blockquote>蔚来股票会追随特斯拉的脚步吗?这两只电动汽车股票之间需要考虑什么</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-07-24 09:16</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li> <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li> <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>让我们来看看蔚来与今天的特斯拉相比如何,蔚来独特的卖点,以及两家公司之间的相似之处。</li><li>蔚来是一个高增长的选择,相对于特斯拉的估值,它似乎并不算太贵。</li><li>然而,蔚来并不是一只低风险股票,它可能不是每个人的好选择。投资者还应该考虑蔚来汽车相对于传统汽车公司的估值。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>ipopba/iStock 来自盖蒂图片社</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p><p><blockquote>蔚来(蔚来)是中国领先的电动汽车企业之一,通过有吸引力的品牌和独特的BaaS产品,吸引了消费者和投资者的极大兴趣。然而,如今该公司的规模仍然远小于目前引领全球电动汽车市场的特斯拉 (TSLA)。蔚来目前专注于国内市场,特斯拉还是一家小公司时也是如此,但蔚来也将努力在海外市场抢占市场份额。股价已经大幅上涨,但如果蔚来能够复制特斯拉的成功,这可能是完全合理的。</blockquote></p><p> <b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p><p><blockquote>2020 年,两家公司都受益于人们对电动汽车日益增长的兴趣,这一趋势导致大多数电动汽车纯玩家的股价迅速上涨。电动汽车市场份额不断增长、电动汽车购买补贴等宽松政策以及大规模货币刺激措施相结合,蔚来和特斯拉的股价迅速上涨。蔚来去年上涨了 245%,而特斯拉同期上涨了 101%。然而,这两家公司目前的股价均低于历史高点,该高点在 2021 年初触及,之后市场对电动汽车 pureplays 的情绪有所降温。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p><p><blockquote>快速浏览一下分析师的目标价,我们发现特斯拉的交易价格几乎完全符合共识,而蔚来的交易价格比分析师目标价低约 30%。如果分析师界是正确的,那么蔚来在这里是一个更好的投资,因为预计特斯拉的股价明年不会大幅上涨,而蔚来的分析师目标价有很大的上涨空间。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来和特斯拉相似吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你关注的是什么。这两家公司有相似之处,但也有不同之处。因此,人们可以说,在某些方面,这两者是相似的,但在其他方面,它们不是。让我们看几件事:</blockquote></p><p> <b>Business Model</b></p><p><blockquote><b>商业模式</b></blockquote></p><p> Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都专注于电动汽车领域,尽管特斯拉多年来也一直在发展其他一些业务,例如储能。特斯拉的大部分收入是通过销售电动汽车产生的,这也是蔚来的运营方式。两家公司都专注于电动汽车的高端市场,销售与宝马、梅赛德斯和雷克萨斯等品牌竞争的高价汽车。两家公司都提供少量不同的车辆,特斯拉是众所周知的 S、X、3 和 Y,而蔚来则提供轿车 (ET7) 和三款 SUV (EC6、ES6、ES8)。尽管蔚来如今是一家规模较小的公司,但两家公司的车型阵容并没有太大区别。</blockquote></p><p> Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司都为客户提供某种类型的充电基础设施,就特斯拉而言,这就是增压器网络,特斯拉车主可以在其中为汽车充电,功率高达 250kW,具体取决于安装的增压器版本。蔚来正在采取不同的方法,为客户提供电池即服务解决方案。蔚来车主可以在蔚来充电站将电池更换为充满电的电池,这一过程只需几分钟,因此与特斯拉和其他电动汽车制造商提供的常规电动汽车充电相比要快得多。因此,BaaS在充电/更换时间方面具有优势,但应该注意的是,与蔚来的换电站相比,特斯拉的超级充电站在世界各地更为常见。在其他市场推出该功能将需要大量资本支出,但与包括特斯拉在内的所有其他电动汽车厂商所提供的产品相比,蔚来汽车的产品是一个独特的卖点。这是否最终会带来回报还有待观察,但随着电动汽车领域的竞争日益激烈,这可能成为蔚来的一大优势。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p><p><blockquote><b>规模、增长和估值</b></blockquote></p><p></p><p> The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p><p><blockquote>两家公司的规模差异很大,无论是在收入和汽车销量方面,还是在两家公司的市值方面。蔚来第二季度交付了22,000辆汽车,同比增长112%,年增长率约为90,000辆。与此同时,特斯拉在第二季度交付了 201,000 辆汽车,高于 2020 年第二季度的 103,000 辆汽车。这是同比的强劲增长,尽管略低于 100%,因此低于蔚来目前的增长率。</blockquote></p><p> Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p><p><blockquote>与蔚来相比,特斯拉每季度交付的汽车数量约为 9 倍,当我们查看两家公司的市值时,我们会发现这一比例几乎完全相同,因为特斯拉 6400 亿美元的市值约为 9 倍蔚来的 720 亿美元。在类似的增长率下,这将是完全有意义的,但看起来蔚来目前可能是更好的交易,因为它的估值相当,同时产生了更好的增长。未来几个季度尤其如此,特斯拉的增长预计将放缓:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据由YCharts提供</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p><p><blockquote>预计特斯拉的收入将从2021年的490亿美元增长到2023年的830亿美元,年增长率为30%。与此同时,蔚来预计其收入将在 2021 年至 2023 年间从 54 亿美元激增至 128 亿美元,年增长率为 54%。因此,相对而言,预计未来两年蔚来的增长速度将远远超过特斯拉。老实说,这并不奇怪,因为大数定律表明,对于一家公司来说,保持巨大的增长率变得越来越困难,而特斯拉现在似乎已经达到了这一点——每年增加 50% 以上的收入是不可能永远的。这甚至不一定是特斯拉的错,事实上,许多优质成长型公司都经历过同样的事情。但投资者仍然应该考虑这个重要事实——与我们过去看到的相比,特斯拉未来几年的增长将不那么令人兴奋,而蔚来等同行的增长速度更快。</blockquote></p><p> The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p><p><blockquote>当我们从长远来看时,情况也是如此。蔚来 2025 年收入预期为 226 亿美元,比 2023 年预期再增长 80%,比分析师对 2021 年的预测增长 320%。与此同时,特斯拉预计 2025 年收入将达到 1225 亿美元,这是一个很大的数字,但比 2023 年增长相对较弱的 48%,比 2021 年总共增长 150%。因此,在 2021 年至 2025 年间,蔚来的收入将增长 4 倍,而特斯拉的收入将增长 2.5 倍——在其他条件相同的情况下,这是一个有意义的差异,应该可以让蔚来获得溢价估值,就像特斯拉值得拥有与大众汽车等传统参与者相比的溢价估值(OTCPK:VWAGY)。</blockquote></p><p> Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p><p><blockquote>将 2025 年的收入预测与两家公司目前的估值进行比较,我们发现蔚来的交易价格为 2025 年销售额的 3.2 倍,而特斯拉的 2025 年销售额倍数为 5.2。对于长期投资者来说,蔚来目前似乎更有价值,因为当我们展望未来时,它的销售倍数要低得多。然而,这并不一定意味着蔚来很便宜,因为与传统汽车公司的估值相比,即使是 2025 年 3.2 倍的销售倍数也相对较高。然而,蔚来看起来比特斯拉便宜,即使其股票绝对不便宜。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来能和特斯拉一样值钱吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p><p><blockquote>这个问题的答案取决于你所关注的时间范围。如今,蔚来比特斯拉小得多,因此理所当然地以较小的市值进行交易。还应该指出的是,不能保证特斯拉的股票是电动汽车公司估值的一个很好的例子——至少,它的股票今天有可能被严重高估,我个人也相信这一点(请注意,有些人会认为股票价格被低估,这也是可能性之一,尽管我个人并不持有这种信念)。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p><p><blockquote>当我们暂时假设特斯拉今天的估值是正确的,并且电动汽车公司每年销售约 80 万辆汽车时,确实应该获得 6000 亿美元左右的市值,那么蔚来最终也可能达到这个目标,尽管不是在短期内。蔚来今年将销售约 9 万辆汽车,到 2025 年这一数字应该会增长到约 40 万辆。如果蔚来的销量在这一点后每年增长 15%,那么到 2030 年(即 9 年后),它可能会售出约 80 万辆汽车。如果想要假设更快的增长,每年 80 万辆汽车的大关也可能在 2030 年之前跨过,例如在 2028 年或 2029 年。如果我们现在真的选择 2030 年,那么按照与特斯拉类似的交付量与市值比率,蔚来到 2030 年的估值可能会超过 6000 亿美元。换句话说,如果我们假设当前的增长预测是现实的,并且类似特斯拉的估值是合适的,那么九年后蔚来的价值可能与特斯拉(今天)一样高。当然,这是两个主要的如果,尤其是第二点,我相信还远未确定。就我个人而言,看到特斯拉的估值压缩不会太惊讶,因此蔚来在 2030 年的市值可能远低于 6000 亿美元的水平,即使它继续大幅增长。蔚来汽车的增长也有可能令人失望,目前的预测过于乐观,尽管我认为蔚来凭借其独特的BaaS模式和在国内市场尤其知名的强大品牌,处于有利的增长位置。</blockquote></p><p> It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p><p><blockquote>还需要注意的是,特斯拉2030年的市值可能与6000亿美元有很大不同,因此即使蔚来达到这个水平,也根本不能保证两家公司的市值相似。到那时,特斯拉的估值可能会更高,例如,如果方舟模型是正确的(我个人认为不太可能)。为了回答上述问题,人们可以说,蔚来可能在8-10年内价值数千亿美元,就像特斯拉一样,但这根本不能保证。即使发生了这种情况,到那时特斯拉的价值可能会高得多。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>蔚来现在是买入还是卖出的好股票?</b></blockquote></p><p> When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p><p><blockquote>当将蔚来视为一项投资时,它最终是否会变得像特斯拉一样大或高估值并不重要。相反,投资者应该问问自己,未来几年他们可以预期的总回报是多少,以及这些预期回报相对于蔚来商业模式的风险是否足够高。关于这些风险,值得一提的是,该公司尚未盈利,这意味着蔚来依赖其资产负债表上的现金进行增长投资。最重要的是,电动汽车领域的竞争正在加剧,市场份额之争可能会在未来几年给利润率带来压力,尽管蔚来似乎由于其电池更换而处于相对有利的地位,我相信这是一个强大的卖点。最后但并非最不重要的一点是,该公司对中国本土市场的依赖是一个应牢记的潜在风险,尽管还应该指出的是,目前中国政府似乎对中国电动汽车公司非常宽容。</blockquote></p><p> One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p><p><blockquote>有人可能会说,相对于传统汽车公司的估值,整个电动汽车行业的估值过高。与纯电动汽车相比,即使是大众或福特等拥有有吸引力的电动汽车产品的传统厂商也能享受巨大的折扣。但如果想投资电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来似乎并不是一个糟糕的选择。该公司结合了强大的品牌、独特的 BaaS 产品、高增长率以及与电动汽车之王特斯拉的估值相比折扣的股票交易。蔚来的收入略高于 2025 年的 3 倍,与其他电动汽车纯电动汽车相比似乎并不算太贵,尽管当然,这仍然代表着与传统厂商相比的溢价。如果蔚来能够很好地执行并继续推出深受消费者欢迎的新车型,从长远来看,其股价可能具有巨大的上涨潜力。如果电动汽车股票成为不受欢迎的投资,蔚来股票也可能有相当大的负面影响,然而,这并不是一个低风险的选择。根据您的风险承受能力,如果您想要高增长的电动汽车 pureplay,蔚来仍然很有价值。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112927800","content_text":"Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.\nNIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.\n\nipopba/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nNIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.\nNIO And TSLA Stock Prices\nBoth companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.\nData by YCharts\nTaking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.\nIs NIO Similar To Tesla?\nThe answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:\nBusiness Model\nBoth companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.\nBoth companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.\nSize, growth, and valuation\nThe two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.\nTesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:\nData by YCharts\nTesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.\nThe same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).\nLooking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.\nCan NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?\nThe answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).\nWhen we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.\nIt should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.\nIs NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?\nWhen considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.\nOne could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"NIO":0.9,"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":929,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}