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77c7f244
2021-10-12
$Light Crude Oil - Nov 2021(CL2111)$
$90 is very likely
77c7f244
2021-10-12
$10-YR T-NOTE - Dec 2021(ZN2112)$
Yield is heading to 1.75% by Dec
77c7f244
2021-09-24
$10-YR T-NOTE - Dec 2021(ZN2112)$
2% yield by Dec 2021
77c7f244
2021-08-23
$Alibaba(BABA)$
It’s so painful to see such a large cap stock falling with no bottom in sight
77c7f244
2021-06-21
I have faith in this stock
77c7f244
2021-06-15
Stay away from TSLA
Tesla Going Through A "Rather Dry Spell", Says Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas<blockquote>摩根士丹利的 Adam Jonas 表示,特斯拉正在经历一段“相当干燥的时期”</blockquote>
77c7f244
2021-06-15
Lookout for sharp moves
Quad-Witch Quandary: How Will Friday's $2 Trillion Gamma Expiration Impact Markets<blockquote>四女巫困境:周五 2 万亿美元伽马到期将如何影响市场</blockquote>
77c7f244
2021-06-15
$Micro E-mini Nasdaq 100 - Sep 2021(MNQ2109)$
AAPL is holding the index. 33pts out of 56 prsgain today. Beware of exhaustion.
77c7f244
2021-06-15
This is not a small cap stock. Take the money and run; don’t be greedy, folks.
Corsair Surges Amid Meme Rally; Jim Cramer Warns on High-Level Sellers<blockquote>海盗船在模因集会中激增;吉姆·克莱默警告高层卖家</blockquote>
77c7f244
2021-06-14
He is manipulating the market with his timed statements over weekends
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77c7f244
2021-06-14
Still need to be careful on these
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77c7f244
2021-06-14
Agree totally
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77c7f244
2021-06-11
🤥 迷路了
77c7f244
2021-06-11
大事不妙 😭
Most of meme stocks dropped in morning trading<blockquote>大多数模因股票在早盘交易中下跌</blockquote>
77c7f244
2021-06-11
$ContextLogic Inc.(WISH)$
情况不客观 😩
77c7f244
2021-06-09
Workhorse Group short interest is 43.53%. This stock is likely target for the next short squeeze. Watch closely & good luck 🤞
77c7f244
2021-06-07
Will it go back to 0.80 soon?
77c7f244
2021-06-07
I’d buy this stock to hold
Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? If You Got Time, Yes<blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW股票能突破500美元吗?如果你有时间,是的</blockquote>
77c7f244
2021-06-07
Another wave will come when they announce Apple EV car
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77c7f244
2021-06-07
I like Palo Alto business
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TSLA","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/160025193","repostId":"1179958588","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1179958588","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623766192,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1179958588?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-15 22:09","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Going Through A \"Rather Dry Spell\", Says Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas<blockquote>摩根士丹利的 Adam Jonas 表示,特斯拉正在经历一段“相当干燥的时期”</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1179958588","media":"zerohedge","summary":"In most respects, the latest note from Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley on Tesla has been more of the sa","content":"<p>In most respects, the latest note from Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley on Tesla has been more of the same.</p><p><blockquote>在大多数方面,摩根士丹利的 Adam Jonas 对特斯拉的最新评论大同小异。</blockquote></p><p> You've got your bona fide comedy, as Jonas starts his note by saying \"Let’s begin with a healthy dose of intellectual honesty on the starting point for the stock,\" before defending his $900 price target on the name...</p><p><blockquote>乔纳斯在笔记的开头说 “让我们从健康的知识诚实开始,作为股票的起点”,然后为他900美元的目标价辩护....</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9cc9bfba9fba1bf3593b4b6f4e20dbf\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"198\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> You've got your \"pie in the sky\" style lofty estimates about a SaaS revenue stream that doesn't exist and that the company likely doesn't even have the infrastructure for...</p><p><blockquote>你已经得到了你的“天上掉馅饼”式的对SaaS收入流的崇高估计,这个估计并不存在,而且该公司可能甚至没有基础设施……</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e525d8ff30b02cefbdc8daecdcfcca7b\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"246\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">You've got your insane valuation for Tesla's insurance business...</p><p><blockquote>你对特斯拉的保险业务有了疯狂的估值……</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67267c0686d45416d0cb73fda3e253c7\" tg-width=\"516\" tg-height=\"648\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">...and finally, you've got your proclamation that Tesla is going to exceed its timelines for autonomous productions. You know, because the company has been so masterful with handling timelines in the past.</p><p><blockquote>......最后,你宣布特斯拉将超额完成自主制作。你知道,因为该公司过去非常擅长处理时间表。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f7526beef593477f8a494eac3cd07e6f\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"97\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> All told, it was a pretty standard Adam Jonas ticker tape parade for the company.</p><p><blockquote>总而言之,对于该公司来说,这是一个非常标准的亚当·乔纳斯股票代码磁带游行。</blockquote></p><p> But tucked into what can only be described as the \"endless optimism\" of Jonas' note was an interesting point that the analyst made.<b>Namely, he appears to make the suggestion that CEO Elon Musk's latest obsession with bitcoin is indicative that Tesla's underlying business could be going through a \"dry spell\".</b></p><p><blockquote>但在乔纳斯的笔记只能被描述为“无尽的乐观”中,隐藏着分析师提出的一个有趣的观点。<b>也就是说,他似乎暗示首席执行官埃隆·马斯克最近对比特币的痴迷表明特斯拉的基础业务可能正在经历一段“干旱期”。</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>\"Over the past couple of months, incoming client interest on Tesla is focused mostly on Chinese sales/production data and Elon Musk’s tweets regarding Bitcoin. Might Tesla-Bitcoin fever may be telling us something about the lull in Tesla sentiment?</b>\" Jonas asks toward the beginning of his note.</p><p><blockquote><b>“在过去的几个月里,特斯拉的新客户兴趣主要集中在中国的销售/生产数据和埃隆-马斯克(Elon Musk)关于比特币的推文上。特斯拉-比特币热是否能告诉我们特斯拉情绪的平静?</b>乔纳斯在笔记的开头问道。</blockquote></p><p> He continues:<b>\"You just know it’s a rather dry spell for Tesla when Bitcoin is the dominant new story and dominant driver of investor discussion day in, day out.</b>In our opinion, what’s considerably more interesting than ‘decoding’ the TSLA-Bitcoin relationship is the fact that there is a virtual ‘vacuum’ of developments and news related to other areas of technological and commercial progress that the company is involved with on renewable energy, storage networking and transportation.\"</p><p><blockquote>他继续说道:<b>“你要知道,对于特斯拉来说,这是一个相当枯燥的时期,因为比特币是主要的新故事,也是投资者日复一日讨论的主要推动力。</b>在我们看来,比'解码'特斯拉与比特币的关系更有趣的是,该公司在可再生能源、存储网络和交通运输等其他技术和商业进步领域的发展和新闻实际上是一个'真空'。”</blockquote></p><p> He begrudgingly concludes about Tesla's underwhelming Model S Plaid unveil: \"<b>Yes, the Model S Plaid unveil was fun, but where’s the next ‘big’ development to move the company forward?\"</b></p><p><blockquote>他不情愿地总结了特斯拉平淡无奇的 Model S Plaid 亮相:“<b>是的,Model S Plaid 的发布很有趣,但推动公司前进的下一个'大'发展在哪里?”</b></blockquote></p><p> The lines even stood out CNBC's Carl Quintanilla who pointed it out early this morning.</p><p><blockquote>今天早上早些时候,CNBC 的卡尔·昆塔尼拉 (Carl Quintanilla) 指出了这一点,这些台词甚至引起了 CNBC 的卡尔·昆塔尼拉 (Carl Quintanilla)</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ec9ba5f7279aee4c62994fd1495bdcec\" tg-width=\"507\" tg-height=\"530\">It's interesting to note this level of what appears to just be bemusement and exhaustion from Jonas. But whether or not it sticks out to the \"sophisticated investors\" buying Tesla stock remains another question...</p><p><blockquote>有趣的是,乔纳斯的这种程度似乎只是困惑和疲惫。但对于购买特斯拉股票的“老练投资者”来说,这是否会引人注目仍然是另一个问题……</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Going Through A \"Rather Dry Spell\", Says Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas<blockquote>摩根士丹利的 Adam Jonas 表示,特斯拉正在经历一段“相当干燥的时期”</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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You know, because the company has been so masterful with handling timelines in the past.</p><p><blockquote>......最后,你宣布特斯拉将超额完成自主制作。你知道,因为该公司过去非常擅长处理时间表。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f7526beef593477f8a494eac3cd07e6f\" tg-width=\"500\" tg-height=\"97\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> All told, it was a pretty standard Adam Jonas ticker tape parade for the company.</p><p><blockquote>总而言之,对于该公司来说,这是一个非常标准的亚当·乔纳斯股票代码磁带游行。</blockquote></p><p> But tucked into what can only be described as the \"endless optimism\" of Jonas' note was an interesting point that the analyst made.<b>Namely, he appears to make the suggestion that CEO Elon Musk's latest obsession with bitcoin is indicative that Tesla's underlying business could be going through a \"dry spell\".</b></p><p><blockquote>但在乔纳斯的笔记只能被描述为“无尽的乐观”中,隐藏着分析师提出的一个有趣的观点。<b>也就是说,他似乎暗示首席执行官埃隆·马斯克最近对比特币的痴迷表明特斯拉的基础业务可能正在经历一段“干旱期”。</b></blockquote></p><p> <b>\"Over the past couple of months, incoming client interest on Tesla is focused mostly on Chinese sales/production data and Elon Musk’s tweets regarding Bitcoin. Might Tesla-Bitcoin fever may be telling us something about the lull in Tesla sentiment?</b>\" Jonas asks toward the beginning of his note.</p><p><blockquote><b>“在过去的几个月里,特斯拉的新客户兴趣主要集中在中国的销售/生产数据和埃隆-马斯克(Elon Musk)关于比特币的推文上。特斯拉-比特币热是否能告诉我们特斯拉情绪的平静?</b>乔纳斯在笔记的开头问道。</blockquote></p><p> He continues:<b>\"You just know it’s a rather dry spell for Tesla when Bitcoin is the dominant new story and dominant driver of investor discussion day in, day out.</b>In our opinion, what’s considerably more interesting than ‘decoding’ the TSLA-Bitcoin relationship is the fact that there is a virtual ‘vacuum’ of developments and news related to other areas of technological and commercial progress that the company is involved with on renewable energy, storage networking and transportation.\"</p><p><blockquote>他继续说道:<b>“你要知道,对于特斯拉来说,这是一个相当枯燥的时期,因为比特币是主要的新故事,也是投资者日复一日讨论的主要推动力。</b>在我们看来,比'解码'特斯拉与比特币的关系更有趣的是,该公司在可再生能源、存储网络和交通运输等其他技术和商业进步领域的发展和新闻实际上是一个'真空'。”</blockquote></p><p> He begrudgingly concludes about Tesla's underwhelming Model S Plaid unveil: \"<b>Yes, the Model S Plaid unveil was fun, but where’s the next ‘big’ development to move the company forward?\"</b></p><p><blockquote>他不情愿地总结了特斯拉平淡无奇的 Model S Plaid 亮相:“<b>是的,Model S Plaid 的发布很有趣,但推动公司前进的下一个'大'发展在哪里?”</b></blockquote></p><p> The lines even stood out CNBC's Carl Quintanilla who pointed it out early this morning.</p><p><blockquote>今天早上早些时候,CNBC 的卡尔·昆塔尼拉 (Carl Quintanilla) 指出了这一点,这些台词甚至引起了 CNBC 的卡尔·昆塔尼拉 (Carl Quintanilla)</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ec9ba5f7279aee4c62994fd1495bdcec\" tg-width=\"507\" tg-height=\"530\">It's interesting to note this level of what appears to just be bemusement and exhaustion from Jonas. But whether or not it sticks out to the \"sophisticated investors\" buying Tesla stock remains another question...</p><p><blockquote>有趣的是,乔纳斯的这种程度似乎只是困惑和疲惫。但对于购买特斯拉股票的“老练投资者”来说,这是否会引人注目仍然是另一个问题……</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tesla-going-through-rather-dry-spell-says-morgan-stanleys-adam-jonas\">zerohedge</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tesla-going-through-rather-dry-spell-says-morgan-stanleys-adam-jonas","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1179958588","content_text":"In most respects, the latest note from Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley on Tesla has been more of the same.\nYou've got your bona fide comedy, as Jonas starts his note by saying \"Let’s begin with a healthy dose of intellectual honesty on the starting point for the stock,\" before defending his $900 price target on the name...\n\nYou've got your \"pie in the sky\" style lofty estimates about a SaaS revenue stream that doesn't exist and that the company likely doesn't even have the infrastructure for...\nYou've got your insane valuation for Tesla's insurance business...\n...and finally, you've got your proclamation that Tesla is going to exceed its timelines for autonomous productions. You know, because the company has been so masterful with handling timelines in the past.\n\nAll told, it was a pretty standard Adam Jonas ticker tape parade for the company.\nBut tucked into what can only be described as the \"endless optimism\" of Jonas' note was an interesting point that the analyst made.Namely, he appears to make the suggestion that CEO Elon Musk's latest obsession with bitcoin is indicative that Tesla's underlying business could be going through a \"dry spell\".\n\"Over the past couple of months, incoming client interest on Tesla is focused mostly on Chinese sales/production data and Elon Musk’s tweets regarding Bitcoin. Might Tesla-Bitcoin fever may be telling us something about the lull in Tesla sentiment?\" Jonas asks toward the beginning of his note.\nHe continues:\"You just know it’s a rather dry spell for Tesla when Bitcoin is the dominant new story and dominant driver of investor discussion day in, day out.In our opinion, what’s considerably more interesting than ‘decoding’ the TSLA-Bitcoin relationship is the fact that there is a virtual ‘vacuum’ of developments and news related to other areas of technological and commercial progress that the company is involved with on renewable energy, storage networking and transportation.\"\nHe begrudgingly concludes about Tesla's underwhelming Model S Plaid unveil: \"Yes, the Model S Plaid unveil was fun, but where’s the next ‘big’ development to move the company forward?\"\nThe lines even stood out CNBC's Carl Quintanilla who pointed it out early this morning.\nIt's interesting to note this level of what appears to just be bemusement and exhaustion from Jonas. 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Furthermore, with stocks at all time highs, it is to be expected that most of the June open interest is below the current SPX spot price. As shown in the chart below, the dual peaks are at 3,900 and 4,150. This means that after Friday, there may be a certain \"anti\"-gravity around those spots until gamma is refilled.</p><p><blockquote>值得注意的是,根据高盛的估计,组合账户<b>对于 15-20% 的 SPX 期权,</b>因此,调整后的未平仓合约总额将达到 1.5 万亿美元,仍远高于到期单只股票未平仓合约总额(7750 亿美元)。此外,由于股市处于历史高位,预计6月份的大部分未平仓合约将低于当前SPX现货价格。如下图所示,双峰位于3900和4150。这意味着周五之后,这些点周围可能会有一定的“反”引力,直到伽马射线被重新填充。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adfcada2b0ef3f2ebbd684649a613043\" tg-width=\"936\" tg-height=\"541\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The Goldman strategist then explains what he believes is below the abnormally low level of realized market vol, noting that - as we discussed last week - it is consistent with long gamma positioning. Consider that SPX<b>realized volatility over the past 13 trading days has been just 5.1% - the lowest 13-day realized vol since 2019.</b></p><p><blockquote>高盛策略师随后解释了他认为已实现市场交易量异常低水平的情况,并指出——正如我们上周讨论的那样——这与长期定位是一致的。考虑一下SPX<b>过去 13 个交易日的实现波动率仅为 5.1%,为 2019 年以来最低的 13 天实现波动率。</b></blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/afffda1e07736784ad695d95a9936421\" tg-width=\"952\" tg-height=\"558\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> This contrasts with extreme volatility in pockets of the single stock market; AMC, which had the highest contract volume among single stocks last week (but far less notional volume at$7bln/day than AMZN’s leading $120bln/day), has had close to 400% realized vol over the same period.</p><p><blockquote>这与单一股票市场部分地区的极端波动形成鲜明对比;AMC 上周的合约量是单只股票中最高的(但名义成交量为 70 亿美元/天,远低于 AMZN 领先的 1200 亿美元/天),同期已实现成交量的近 400%。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df2b7aeaadb37160a7eaf0ac08ba31de\" tg-width=\"1236\" tg-height=\"561\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Then, as Nomura's Charlie McElligott first noted last week, Goldman's derivatives team agrees that<b>the extremely low SPX realized volatility is consistent with the possibility that 18-Jun has left “the street” long index gamma, in which case Fishman echoeswhat we said last week, namely that \"realized volatility could pick up once positions are cleaner. \"</b>Meanwhile, the rising beta of VIX futures to the SPX indicates that investors expect short gamma dynamics to pick up should markets sell off. Translation:<u><b>the market will become much more volatile in a selloff.</b></u></p><p><blockquote>然后,正如野村证券的查理·麦切利戈特上周首次指出的那样,高盛的衍生品团队同意<b>SPX 极低的实现波动率与 6 月 18 日多头指数 gamma 离开 “街头 ”的可能性是一致的,在这种情况下,Fishman 呼应了我们上周所说的,即 “一旦头寸更加干净,实现波动率可能会上升”。</b>与此同时,SPX 的 VIX 期货贝塔系数上升表明,如果市场抛售,投资者预计短期伽马动态将会回升。翻译:<u><b>在抛售中,市场将变得更加波动。</b></u></blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76b01b8a05b70ec4f343626b1fad491b\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Meanwhile, and in keeping with the latest memo stock squeeze, Goldman also notes that while single stock option volumes continue to be high, it is well short of Q1 peaks. The large percentage of all single stock option activity driven by retail, and the predictive value of retail activity, have both heightened the attention on the single stock option market in recent weeks. Recent growth in single stock option activity has been concentrated in low-share-price stocks, leaving a shar prise in contract-volume over the past two weeks that has not been matched by notional volume. When adjusting notional volume for the size of the equity market, Goldman finds that single stock volume has actually been on the low of its 2021 range over the past two weeks which means that the latest ramps had little to no gamma squeeze components to them.</p><p><blockquote>与此同时,与最新的备忘录库存挤压保持一致,高盛还指出,虽然单一股票期权交易量仍然很高,但远低于第一季度的峰值。最近几周,由零售驱动的所有单一股票期权活动中所占的比例很大,以及零售活动的预测价值,都提高了人们对单一股票期权市场的关注度。最近单一股票期权活动的增长集中在低股价股票,导致过去两周的合约交易量中的股价与名义交易量不符。在根据股票市场规模调整名义成交量时,高盛发现,过去两周单只股票成交量实际上一直处于 2021 年区间的低点,这意味着最新的涨幅几乎没有伽马挤压成分。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9c6c3df49e3e5d1e4a7a0d9c24696e6a\" tg-width=\"1212\" tg-height=\"608\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p></p><p> One final point which we discussed recently and which is in keeping with the growing retail participation in trading, is Goldman's observation that the trend toward shorter-dated SPX options (weeklies) and away from quarterlies, continues. That also is one of the reasons why Friday’s SPX expiration is smaller than many recent quarterlies, and why as it as approached expiration, its trading volume has been falling.</p><p><blockquote>我们最近讨论的最后一点是,高盛观察到,短期 SPX 期权(每周)和远离季度的趋势仍在继续,这与零售参与交易的不断增长是一致的。这也是为什么周五 SPX 到期日小于近期许多季度的原因之一,也是为什么随着到期日的临近,其交易量一直在下降。</blockquote></p><p> As Goldman explains, investors have been increasingly adopting the full calendar of SPX expirations, including expirations every Monday and Wednesday, as they tailor their views around events. In fact,<b>the percentage of SPX option volume happening in 3rd Friday expirations is at an all-time low,</b>and is now smaller than the percentage happening in Monday and Wednesday expirations. One explanation for heightened ultra-short-dated volumes is the strong single stock volumes: and here an interest suggesting from Goldman - \"to the extent market makers are unable to cover the short single stock gamma generated by retail investors’ call buying, they may be actively trading long positions in strips of ultra-short-dated SPX index options to offset this gamma.\"</p><p><blockquote>正如高盛解释的那样,投资者越来越多地采用 SPX 到期日的完整日历,包括每周一和周三的到期日,因为他们会根据事件调整自己的观点。其实,<b>第三个星期五到期的 SPX 期权交易量百分比处于历史最低点,</b>现在低于周一和周三到期的百分比。超短期交易量增加的一个解释是强劲的单只股票交易量: 高盛提出了一个观点--“如果做市商无法覆盖散户投资者购买看涨期权产生的单只股票空头范围,他们可能会积极交易一系列超短期 SPX 指数期权的多头头寸,以抵消这一范围”。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd0e886a62a61c70b0f299bd6c032a24\" tg-width=\"954\" tg-height=\"1128\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Why is this important? because if this trend is large enough, it directly contributes to low implied and realized correlation.<b>Ironically, by ramping single name, \"most-shorted names\", retail investors are ushering a period of unorthodox calm across the rest of the market!</b></p><p><blockquote>为什么这很重要?因为如果这种趋势足够大,它会直接导致低隐含和实现的相关性。<b>具有讽刺意味的是,通过增加单一名称,“最卖空的名称”,散户投资者正在迎来整个市场的非正统平静期!</b></blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Furthermore, with stocks at all time highs, it is to be expected that most of the June open interest is below the current SPX spot price. As shown in the chart below, the dual peaks are at 3,900 and 4,150. This means that after Friday, there may be a certain \"anti\"-gravity around those spots until gamma is refilled.</p><p><blockquote>值得注意的是,根据高盛的估计,组合账户<b>对于 15-20% 的 SPX 期权,</b>因此,调整后的未平仓合约总额将达到 1.5 万亿美元,仍远高于到期单只股票未平仓合约总额(7750 亿美元)。此外,由于股市处于历史高位,预计6月份的大部分未平仓合约将低于当前SPX现货价格。如下图所示,双峰位于3900和4150。这意味着周五之后,这些点周围可能会有一定的“反”引力,直到伽马射线被重新填充。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adfcada2b0ef3f2ebbd684649a613043\" tg-width=\"936\" tg-height=\"541\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> The Goldman strategist then explains what he believes is below the abnormally low level of realized market vol, noting that - as we discussed last week - it is consistent with long gamma positioning. Consider that SPX<b>realized volatility over the past 13 trading days has been just 5.1% - the lowest 13-day realized vol since 2019.</b></p><p><blockquote>高盛策略师随后解释了他认为已实现市场交易量异常低水平的情况,并指出——正如我们上周讨论的那样——这与长期定位是一致的。考虑一下SPX<b>过去 13 个交易日的实现波动率仅为 5.1%,为 2019 年以来最低的 13 天实现波动率。</b></blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/afffda1e07736784ad695d95a9936421\" tg-width=\"952\" tg-height=\"558\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> This contrasts with extreme volatility in pockets of the single stock market; AMC, which had the highest contract volume among single stocks last week (but far less notional volume at$7bln/day than AMZN’s leading $120bln/day), has had close to 400% realized vol over the same period.</p><p><blockquote>这与单一股票市场部分地区的极端波动形成鲜明对比;AMC 上周的合约量是单只股票中最高的(但名义成交量为 70 亿美元/天,远低于 AMZN 领先的 1200 亿美元/天),同期已实现成交量的近 400%。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df2b7aeaadb37160a7eaf0ac08ba31de\" tg-width=\"1236\" tg-height=\"561\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Then, as Nomura's Charlie McElligott first noted last week, Goldman's derivatives team agrees that<b>the extremely low SPX realized volatility is consistent with the possibility that 18-Jun has left “the street” long index gamma, in which case Fishman echoeswhat we said last week, namely that \"realized volatility could pick up once positions are cleaner. \"</b>Meanwhile, the rising beta of VIX futures to the SPX indicates that investors expect short gamma dynamics to pick up should markets sell off. Translation:<u><b>the market will become much more volatile in a selloff.</b></u></p><p><blockquote>然后,正如野村证券的查理·麦切利戈特上周首次指出的那样,高盛的衍生品团队同意<b>SPX 极低的实现波动率与 6 月 18 日多头指数 gamma 离开 “街头 ”的可能性是一致的,在这种情况下,Fishman 呼应了我们上周所说的,即 “一旦头寸更加干净,实现波动率可能会上升”。</b>与此同时,SPX 的 VIX 期货贝塔系数上升表明,如果市场抛售,投资者预计短期伽马动态将会回升。翻译:<u><b>在抛售中,市场将变得更加波动。</b></u></blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76b01b8a05b70ec4f343626b1fad491b\" tg-width=\"931\" tg-height=\"560\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Meanwhile, and in keeping with the latest memo stock squeeze, Goldman also notes that while single stock option volumes continue to be high, it is well short of Q1 peaks. The large percentage of all single stock option activity driven by retail, and the predictive value of retail activity, have both heightened the attention on the single stock option market in recent weeks. Recent growth in single stock option activity has been concentrated in low-share-price stocks, leaving a shar prise in contract-volume over the past two weeks that has not been matched by notional volume. When adjusting notional volume for the size of the equity market, Goldman finds that single stock volume has actually been on the low of its 2021 range over the past two weeks which means that the latest ramps had little to no gamma squeeze components to them.</p><p><blockquote>与此同时,与最新的备忘录库存挤压保持一致,高盛还指出,虽然单一股票期权交易量仍然很高,但远低于第一季度的峰值。最近几周,由零售驱动的所有单一股票期权活动中所占的比例很大,以及零售活动的预测价值,都提高了人们对单一股票期权市场的关注度。最近单一股票期权活动的增长集中在低股价股票,导致过去两周的合约交易量中的股价与名义交易量不符。在根据股票市场规模调整名义成交量时,高盛发现,过去两周单只股票成交量实际上一直处于 2021 年区间的低点,这意味着最新的涨幅几乎没有伽马挤压成分。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9c6c3df49e3e5d1e4a7a0d9c24696e6a\" tg-width=\"1212\" tg-height=\"608\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p></p><p> One final point which we discussed recently and which is in keeping with the growing retail participation in trading, is Goldman's observation that the trend toward shorter-dated SPX options (weeklies) and away from quarterlies, continues. That also is one of the reasons why Friday’s SPX expiration is smaller than many recent quarterlies, and why as it as approached expiration, its trading volume has been falling.</p><p><blockquote>我们最近讨论的最后一点是,高盛观察到,短期 SPX 期权(每周)和远离季度的趋势仍在继续,这与零售参与交易的不断增长是一致的。这也是为什么周五 SPX 到期日小于近期许多季度的原因之一,也是为什么随着到期日的临近,其交易量一直在下降。</blockquote></p><p> As Goldman explains, investors have been increasingly adopting the full calendar of SPX expirations, including expirations every Monday and Wednesday, as they tailor their views around events. In fact,<b>the percentage of SPX option volume happening in 3rd Friday expirations is at an all-time low,</b>and is now smaller than the percentage happening in Monday and Wednesday expirations. One explanation for heightened ultra-short-dated volumes is the strong single stock volumes: and here an interest suggesting from Goldman - \"to the extent market makers are unable to cover the short single stock gamma generated by retail investors’ call buying, they may be actively trading long positions in strips of ultra-short-dated SPX index options to offset this gamma.\"</p><p><blockquote>正如高盛解释的那样,投资者越来越多地采用 SPX 到期日的完整日历,包括每周一和周三的到期日,因为他们会根据事件调整自己的观点。其实,<b>第三个星期五到期的 SPX 期权交易量百分比处于历史最低点,</b>现在低于周一和周三到期的百分比。超短期交易量增加的一个解释是强劲的单只股票交易量: 高盛提出了一个观点--“如果做市商无法覆盖散户投资者购买看涨期权产生的单只股票空头范围,他们可能会积极交易一系列超短期 SPX 指数期权的多头头寸,以抵消这一范围”。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd0e886a62a61c70b0f299bd6c032a24\" tg-width=\"954\" tg-height=\"1128\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p><blockquote></blockquote></p><p> Why is this important? because if this trend is large enough, it directly contributes to low implied and realized correlation.<b>Ironically, by ramping single name, \"most-shorted names\", retail investors are ushering a period of unorthodox calm across the rest of the market!</b></p><p><blockquote>为什么这很重要?因为如果这种趋势足够大,它会直接导致低隐含和实现的相关性。<b>具有讽刺意味的是,通过增加单一名称,“最卖空的名称”,散户投资者正在迎来整个市场的非正统平静期!</b></blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/quad-witch-quandary-how-will-fridays-2-trillion-gamma-expiration-impact-markets\">zerohedge</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".DJI":"道琼斯","SPY":"标普500ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/quad-witch-quandary-how-will-fridays-2-trillion-gamma-expiration-impact-markets","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1191245053","content_text":"Last week, when discussing thebizarre summer doldrumsin the market which pushed the VIX to the lowest level since the onset of the covid pandemic, we said that this period of abnormal market quiet is likely to last until this Friday' quad-witch, when a massive amount of gamma and delta expire and are de-risked, in the process eliminating one of the natural downside stock buffers (see \"4 Reasons Why The Market Doldrums End With Next Friday's Op-Ex\").\nSo picking up on the topic of Friday' potentially market-moving opex, Goldman' in-house derivatives expert, Rocky Fishman, previews June’s upcoming expiration which he dubs as \"large - comparable to a typical quarterly.\" Specifically,there are $1.8 trillion of SPX options expiring on Friday, in addition to $240 billion of SPY options and $200 billion of options on SPX and SPX E-mini futures.\n\nYet while these totals are massive,when adjusted for the index’s size the amount of expiring options within 10% of current spot is smaller than just about any quarterly over the past decade.\n\nIt's worth noting that according to Goldman estimates that combos accountfor 15-20% of SPX options,so an adjusted open interest total would add up to $1.5tln, still much larger than total expiring single stock open interest ($775bln). Furthermore, with stocks at all time highs, it is to be expected that most of the June open interest is below the current SPX spot price. As shown in the chart below, the dual peaks are at 3,900 and 4,150. This means that after Friday, there may be a certain \"anti\"-gravity around those spots until gamma is refilled.\n\nThe Goldman strategist then explains what he believes is below the abnormally low level of realized market vol, noting that - as we discussed last week - it is consistent with long gamma positioning. Consider that SPXrealized volatility over the past 13 trading days has been just 5.1% - the lowest 13-day realized vol since 2019.\n\nThis contrasts with extreme volatility in pockets of the single stock market; AMC, which had the highest contract volume among single stocks last week (but far less notional volume at$7bln/day than AMZN’s leading $120bln/day), has had close to 400% realized vol over the same period.\n\nThen, as Nomura's Charlie McElligott first noted last week, Goldman's derivatives team agrees thatthe extremely low SPX realized volatility is consistent with the possibility that 18-Jun has left “the street” long index gamma, in which case Fishman echoeswhat we said last week, namely that \"realized volatility could pick up once positions are cleaner. \"Meanwhile, the rising beta of VIX futures to the SPX indicates that investors expect short gamma dynamics to pick up should markets sell off. Translation:the market will become much more volatile in a selloff.\n\nMeanwhile, and in keeping with the latest memo stock squeeze, Goldman also notes that while single stock option volumes continue to be high, it is well short of Q1 peaks. The large percentage of all single stock option activity driven by retail, and the predictive value of retail activity, have both heightened the attention on the single stock option market in recent weeks. Recent growth in single stock option activity has been concentrated in low-share-price stocks, leaving a shar prise in contract-volume over the past two weeks that has not been matched by notional volume. When adjusting notional volume for the size of the equity market, Goldman finds that single stock volume has actually been on the low of its 2021 range over the past two weeks which means that the latest ramps had little to no gamma squeeze components to them.\n\nOne final point which we discussed recently and which is in keeping with the growing retail participation in trading, is Goldman's observation that the trend toward shorter-dated SPX options (weeklies) and away from quarterlies, continues. That also is one of the reasons why Friday’s SPX expiration is smaller than many recent quarterlies, and why as it as approached expiration, its trading volume has been falling.\nAs Goldman explains, investors have been increasingly adopting the full calendar of SPX expirations, including expirations every Monday and Wednesday, as they tailor their views around events. In fact,the percentage of SPX option volume happening in 3rd Friday expirations is at an all-time low,and is now smaller than the percentage happening in Monday and Wednesday expirations. One explanation for heightened ultra-short-dated volumes is the strong single stock volumes: and here an interest suggesting from Goldman - \"to the extent market makers are unable to cover the short single stock gamma generated by retail investors’ call buying, they may be actively trading long positions in strips of ultra-short-dated SPX index options to offset this gamma.\"\n\nWhy is this important? because if this trend is large enough, it directly contributes to low implied and realized correlation.Ironically, by ramping single name, \"most-shorted names\", retail investors are ushering a period of unorthodox calm across the rest of the market!","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{".SPX":0.9,".DJI":0.9,"SPY":0.9,".IXIC":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2573,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184808657,"gmtCreate":1623695297979,"gmtModify":1631884412210,"author":{"id":"3579590433924918","authorId":"3579590433924918","name":"77c7f244","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3579590433924918","authorIdStr":"3579590433924918"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/FUT/MNQ2109\">$Micro E-mini Nasdaq 100 - Sep 2021(MNQ2109)$</a>AAPL is holding the index. 33pts out of 56 prsgain today. Beware of exhaustion. ","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/FUT/MNQ2109\">$Micro E-mini Nasdaq 100 - Sep 2021(MNQ2109)$</a>AAPL is holding the index. 33pts out of 56 prsgain today. Beware of exhaustion. ","text":"$Micro E-mini Nasdaq 100 - Sep 2021(MNQ2109)$AAPL is holding the index. 33pts out of 56 prsgain today. Beware of exhaustion.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/184808657","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2993,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184808073,"gmtCreate":1623695152392,"gmtModify":1634029963169,"author":{"id":"3579590433924918","authorId":"3579590433924918","name":"77c7f244","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3579590433924918","authorIdStr":"3579590433924918"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"This is not a small cap stock. Take the money and run; don’t be greedy, folks.","listText":"This is not a small cap stock. Take the money and run; don’t be greedy, folks.","text":"This is not a small cap stock. Take the money and run; don’t be greedy, folks.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/184808073","repostId":"1117313016","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117313016","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623680913,"share":"https://www.laohunote.com/m/news/1117313016?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-14 22:28","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Corsair Surges Amid Meme Rally; Jim Cramer Warns on High-Level Sellers<blockquote>海盗船在模因集会中激增;吉姆·克莱默警告高层卖家</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117313016","media":"thestreet","summary":"Corsair Gaming -Get Report shares surged higher Monday as the gaming and content equipment-maker appeared to add its name to the list of meme stock favorites.TheStreet's founder Jim Cramer, however, cautioned that such a steep rise for a fundamentally sound stock like Corsair would likely entice large-scale sellers at these levels.\"Corsair is a company I like very much, because it's basically a souped-up Logitech and Logitech's been a great stock\" Cramer told CNBC's Squawk on The Street program","content":"<p>Corsair Gaming (<b>CRSR</b>) -Get Report shares surged higher Monday as the gaming and content equipment-maker appeared to add its name to the list of meme stock favorites.</p><p><blockquote>海盗船游戏(<b>CRSR</b>) -Get Report 周一股价飙升,这家游戏和内容设备制造商似乎将其名字添加到最受欢迎的模因股票名单中。</blockquote></p><p> Data from theYolosocks.livewebsite, which tracks real-time mentions on stocks within Reddit's r/wallstreetbets chatroom, indicates that Corsair is the second most-discussed stock among users, up from a previous rank of 11, over the past 24 hours and more than 860 mentions.</p><p><blockquote>theYolosocks.livewebsite 跟踪 Reddit 的 r/wallstreetbets 聊天室中股票的实时提及情况,数据显示,Corsair 是用户讨论次数第二多的股票,从之前的第 11 名上升,在过去 24 小时内提及次数超过 860 次。</blockquote></p><p> TheStreet's founder Jim Cramer, however, cautioned that such a steep rise for a fundamentally sound stock like Corsair would likely entice large-scale sellers at these levels.</p><p><blockquote>然而,TheStreet 创始人吉姆·克莱默 (Jim Cramer) 警告说,对于像 Corsair 这样基本面稳健的股票来说,如此大幅上涨可能会吸引这些水平的大规模卖家。</blockquote></p><p> \"Corsair is a company I like very much, because it's basically a souped-up Logitech and Logitech's been a great stock\" Cramer told CNBC's Squawk on The Street program. \"They have the high-performance equipment you need to dominate in e-sports and I think e-sports are here to stay.\"</p><p><blockquote>克莱默在接受 CNBC 的 Squawk on The Street 节目采访时表示:“Corsair 是我非常喜欢的一家公司,因为它基本上是罗技的升级版,而罗技一直是一只很棒的股票。”“他们拥有在电子竞技中占据主导地位所需的高性能设备,我认为电子竞技将会继续存在。”</blockquote></p><p> \"I don't know why the 'meme' people have a monopoly on whatever they play with,\" Cramer said. \"No Wall Street analyst could move Corsair this much, so for people who've been waiting for the stock to go to $37 and now it's at $41, those people aren't going to turn buyers. They're sellers.\"</p><p><blockquote>“克莱默说:”我不知道为什么'迷因'人会垄断他们玩的任何东西。“没有一个华尔街分析师能对海盗船如此感兴趣,所以对于那些一直在等待股票涨到 37 美元,现在又涨到 41 美元的人来说,这些人不会成为买家。他们是卖家。”</blockquote></p><p> \"The meme people think they're hurting the hedge funds, when in fact they're a tool to the hedge funds,\" Cramer said.</p><p><blockquote>“人们认为模因正在伤害对冲基金,但事实上它们是对冲基金的工具,”克莱默说。</blockquote></p><p> Corsair shares were marked 19.3% higher in early trading Monday to change hands at $38.60 each -- after hitting a session high of $42.97 at the opening bell -- in a move that bumps the stock's year-to-date gain to around 12%.</p><p><blockquote>Corsair 股价在周一早盘交易中上涨 19.3%,易手至每股 38.60 美元,开盘时触及盘中高点 42.97 美元,此举将该股今年迄今的涨幅提升至 12% 左右。</blockquote></p><p> Last month, Corsair posted first quarter earnings of $80 million on revenues of $529 million thanks to surging growth in its gaming nd peripherals business, which saw sales rise by 132% when compared to last year.</p><p><blockquote>上个月,Corsair 公布第一季度盈利 8000 万美元,收入为 5.29 亿美元,这得益于其游戏和外围设备业务的激增增长,销售额比去年增长了 132%。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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They're sellers.\"</p><p><blockquote>“克莱默说:”我不知道为什么'迷因'人会垄断他们玩的任何东西。“没有一个华尔街分析师能对海盗船如此感兴趣,所以对于那些一直在等待股票涨到 37 美元,现在又涨到 41 美元的人来说,这些人不会成为买家。他们是卖家。”</blockquote></p><p> \"The meme people think they're hurting the hedge funds, when in fact they're a tool to the hedge funds,\" Cramer said.</p><p><blockquote>“人们认为模因正在伤害对冲基金,但事实上它们是对冲基金的工具,”克莱默说。</blockquote></p><p> Corsair shares were marked 19.3% higher in early trading Monday to change hands at $38.60 each -- after hitting a session high of $42.97 at the opening bell -- in a move that bumps the stock's year-to-date gain to around 12%.</p><p><blockquote>Corsair 股价在周一早盘交易中上涨 19.3%,易手至每股 38.60 美元,开盘时触及盘中高点 42.97 美元,此举将该股今年迄今的涨幅提升至 12% 左右。</blockquote></p><p> Last month, Corsair posted first quarter earnings of $80 million on revenues of $529 million thanks to surging growth in its gaming nd peripherals business, which saw sales rise by 132% when compared to last year.</p><p><blockquote>上个月,Corsair 公布第一季度盈利 8000 万美元,收入为 5.29 亿美元,这得益于其游戏和外围设备业务的激增增长,销售额比去年增长了 132%。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/corsair-surges-in-latest-meme-rally-jim-cramer-warns-on-sellers\">thestreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"CRSR":"Corsair Gaming, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/corsair-surges-in-latest-meme-rally-jim-cramer-warns-on-sellers","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117313016","content_text":"Corsair Gaming (CRSR) -Get Report shares surged higher Monday as the gaming and content equipment-maker appeared to add its name to the list of meme stock favorites.\nData from theYolosocks.livewebsite, which tracks real-time mentions on stocks within Reddit's r/wallstreetbets chatroom, indicates that Corsair is the second most-discussed stock among users, up from a previous rank of 11, over the past 24 hours and more than 860 mentions.\nTheStreet's founder Jim Cramer, however, cautioned that such a steep rise for a fundamentally sound stock like Corsair would likely entice large-scale sellers at these levels.\n\"Corsair is a company I like very much, because it's basically a souped-up Logitech and Logitech's been a great stock\" Cramer told CNBC's Squawk on The Street program. \"They have the high-performance equipment you need to dominate in e-sports and I think e-sports are here to stay.\"\n\"I don't know why the 'meme' people have a monopoly on whatever they play with,\" Cramer said. \"No Wall Street analyst could move Corsair this much, so for people who've been waiting for the stock to go to $37 and now it's at $41, those people aren't going to turn buyers. 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in morning trading.</p><p><blockquote>(6月10日)大多数模因股票在早盘交易中下跌。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f035fcec2fe0d5b172ba455b6163d8c\" tg-width=\"305\" tg-height=\"404\">GameStop fell about 10%, Baird says GameStop's turnaround plan remains a mystery, predicts 90% stock decline.</p><p><blockquote>游戏驿站股价下跌约 10%,Baird 表示 GameStop 的扭亏为盈计划仍然是个谜,预计股价将下跌 90%。</blockquote></p><p> Clover Health Corp fell nearly 9%, Investors should back away fromClover Healthafter Reddit traders helped to cause a shortage in the heavily shorted insurance stock, according to Bank of America.</p><p><blockquote>美国银行表示,Clover Health Corp 下跌近 9%,在 Reddit 交易员帮助导致严重做空的保险股短缺后,投资者应该远离 Clover Health。</blockquote></p><p> The stock closed at $16.92 per share on Wednesday, up more than 120% in June, and briefly traded above $28. The company, which went public through a special purpose acquisition company deal aided by billionaire Chamath Palihapitiya, has become favorite of social media traders in the past week.</p><p><blockquote>该股周三收于每股16.92美元,6月份上涨超过120%,短暂交易价格高于28美元。该公司在亿万富翁 Chamath Palihapitiya 的帮助下,通过一项特殊目的收购公司交易上市,在过去一周成为社交媒体交易员的最爱。</blockquote></p><p> Bank of America analyst Kevin Fischbeck downgraded the stock to underperform from neutral, saying in a note to clients on Thursday that the fundamentals couldn’t support the stock price.</p><p><blockquote>美国银行分析师凯文-菲施贝克(Kevin Fischbeck)将该股评级从中性下调至表现不佳,并在周四给客户的一份报告中表示,基本面无法支撑股价。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Most of meme stocks dropped in morning trading<blockquote>大多数模因股票在早盘交易中下跌</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nMost of meme stocks dropped in morning trading<blockquote>大多数模因股票在早盘交易中下跌</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-06-10 22:34</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>(June 10) Most of meme stocks dropped in morning trading.</p><p><blockquote>(6月10日)大多数模因股票在早盘交易中下跌。</blockquote></p><p> <img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f035fcec2fe0d5b172ba455b6163d8c\" tg-width=\"305\" tg-height=\"404\">GameStop fell about 10%, Baird says GameStop's turnaround plan remains a mystery, predicts 90% stock decline.</p><p><blockquote>游戏驿站股价下跌约 10%,Baird 表示 GameStop 的扭亏为盈计划仍然是个谜,预计股价将下跌 90%。</blockquote></p><p> Clover Health Corp fell nearly 9%, Investors should back away fromClover Healthafter Reddit traders helped to cause a shortage in the heavily shorted insurance stock, according to Bank of America.</p><p><blockquote>美国银行表示,Clover Health Corp 下跌近 9%,在 Reddit 交易员帮助导致严重做空的保险股短缺后,投资者应该远离 Clover Health。</blockquote></p><p> The stock closed at $16.92 per share on Wednesday, up more than 120% in June, and briefly traded above $28. The company, which went public through a special purpose acquisition company deal aided by billionaire Chamath Palihapitiya, has become favorite of social media traders in the past week.</p><p><blockquote>该股周三收于每股16.92美元,6月份上涨超过120%,短暂交易价格高于28美元。该公司在亿万富翁 Chamath Palihapitiya 的帮助下,通过一项特殊目的收购公司交易上市,在过去一周成为社交媒体交易员的最爱。</blockquote></p><p> Bank of America analyst Kevin Fischbeck downgraded the stock to underperform from neutral, saying in a note to clients on Thursday that the fundamentals couldn’t support the stock price.</p><p><blockquote>美国银行分析师凯文-菲施贝克(Kevin Fischbeck)将该股评级从中性下调至表现不佳,并在周四给客户的一份报告中表示,基本面无法支撑股价。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GME":"游戏驿站","AMC":"AMC院线","CLOV":"Clover Health Corp"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1109265126","content_text":"(June 10) Most of meme stocks dropped in morning trading.\nGameStop fell about 10%, Baird says GameStop's turnaround plan remains a mystery, predicts 90% stock decline.\nClover Health Corp fell nearly 9%, Investors should back away fromClover Healthafter Reddit traders helped to cause a shortage in the heavily shorted insurance stock, according to Bank of America.\nThe stock closed at $16.92 per share on Wednesday, up more than 120% in June, and briefly traded above $28. 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This stock is likely target for the next short squeeze. Watch closely & good luck 🤞 ","listText":"Workhorse Group short interest is 43.53%. This stock is likely target for the next short squeeze. Watch closely & good luck 🤞 ","text":"Workhorse Group short interest is 43.53%. This stock is likely target for the next short squeeze. 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If You Got Time, Yes<blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW股票能突破500美元吗?如果你有时间,是的</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1154529120","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:. Alibaba Group'","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.</li> <li>I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.</li> <li>In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/567d19950e6c8789ce2192b4503f0fa5\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Photo by efetova/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>阿里巴巴-SW是一只战场股票,有些人看到了很多机会,而另一些人则看到了很多风险。</li><li>我相信机遇和风险并存,但我认为前者大于后者。</li><li>从长远来看,阿里巴巴有机会为那些以当前相当低的估值购买的人带来强劲收益。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>照片由 efetova/iStock 提供,来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.</p><p><blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW集团(BABA)是全球领先的高科技公司,持续产生有吸引力的增长,并为投资者提供了高增长的中国消费市场的机会。同时,通过一系列的创业,阿里巴巴-SW还活跃在额外的行业,比如云计算。过去几个月股价大幅下跌,但我相信长期潜力巨大。看到股价上涨至 500 美元,我不会感到惊讶,尽管这在短期内不会发生。</blockquote></p><p> <b>BABA Stock Price</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:</p><p><blockquote>自首次公开募股以来,阿里巴巴-SW股价强劲上涨,但还应该提到的是,2020 年下半年股价确实下跌,此后大幅下跌:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8079eeb5384ea003fb3725d3cd1e877f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Shares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.</p><p><blockquote>由于蚂蚁金服的 IPO 计划被叫停,2020 年夏季的涨幅已被抹去,股价现在基本与一年前持平。不过,去年持平的股价表现有些令人惊讶,因为阿里巴巴-SW在那段时间内继续取得强劲的业绩。例如,上一季度阿里巴巴-SW的收入增长率为64%,而上一季度的收入增长也非常强劲,约为50%。然而,这并不是阿里巴巴财报发布中唯一的积极因素。仅在最近一个季度,该公司的用户数量就增加了3200万,相当于年化用户增长率约为20%。这对未来几个季度来说是个好兆头,因为阿里巴巴平台上的更多用户应该会转化为更高的收入。最重要的是,强劲的用户增长表明,对阿里巴巴平台提供的购物服务的需求仍在增长——市场根本没有饱和。阿里巴巴-SW还设法将其 EBITDA 同比增长 25%,这也是一个有吸引力的增长速度,尽管对评级管理关键增长领域的投资不断增加,但仍实现了这一目标。与此同时,由于一些运营杠杆,营业收入增长速度更快,经阿里巴巴-SW第一季度必须支付的罚款调整后,营业收入同比增长 48%。我认为,放弃这一一次性项目是有意义的,以便更清楚地了解阿里巴巴平均一个季度的潜在“核心”盈利能力。</blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,相对于大盘和其他科技公司而言,阿里巴巴-SW集团的股价表现疲软并不是经营业绩疲软的结果,而是由于投资者情绪疲软导致中国风险敞口和对监管的担忧导致的多重压缩的结果。</blockquote></p><p> At its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.</p><p><blockquote>以目前 220 美元的价格计算,与目前分析师一致的目标价 298 美元相比,阿里巴巴的股价有相当大的折扣。如果阿里巴巴-SW达到这一目标,股价将上涨 35%。分析师目标价通常以 1 年为期限发布,因此,如果分析师社区是正确的,阿里巴巴-SW可能是一项很好的投资。从估值的角度来看,这个价格目标似乎一点也不离谱,因为 298 美元相当于今年预期净利润的约 29 倍,或明年净利润的 23 倍。当我们谈论 2022 年夏季(即一年后)的价格目标时,后者可能更能说明问题。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴-SW股票能突破500美元吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,这个问题的答案取决于你的时间框架。如果你看的是12个月的窗口,那么阿里巴巴-SW很可能无法达到500美元。300美元左右的价格目标似乎是可以实现的,尽管这当然也不能保证。然而,如果我们从长远来看,那么 500 美元似乎是阿里巴巴最终可能达到的股价。让我们看几个例子。</blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW在某个时候每股收益为 20 美元,并且市盈率为 25,那么股票的交易价格将为 500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW每股收益为 25 美元,市盈率为 20 倍,那么股票交易价格将为 500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW每股收益为 17 美元,交易价格为净利润的 29 倍,那么股价将(略低于)500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p></p><p> We see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:</p><p><blockquote>我们看到,有许多情况可能会让阿里巴巴的股价达到 500 美元,其中一些情况比其他情况更有可能。当然,你的目标倍数越高,所需的收入就越低。这反过来意味着价格目标可以更快实现,因为所需的累计盈利增长较少。当我们查看阿里巴巴-SW过去的估值时,我们会发现阿里巴巴的长期市盈率中位数如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd2d42b7094deb394266d6410287c2e4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> At 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.</p><p><blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW的净利润为 30-40 倍,相对于目前的股票估值(约为今年收益的 20 倍),其交易价格显然大幅溢价。我认为目前的估值太低了,但另一方面,我预计阿里巴巴-SW未来几年的净利润不会达到 30 倍、35 倍甚至 40 倍。由于阿里巴巴-SW的规模不断扩大,这使得其在未来几年保持出色的增长变得更加困难,与过去的估值相比,未来几年的股票估值可能会更低。</blockquote></p><p> I still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.</p><p><blockquote>我仍然认为,从目前21倍左右的市盈率来看,股票确实有一些估值扩张潜力,因此让我们假设股票未来的交易价格是净利润的23倍。与历史估值相比,这仍然是一个巨大的折扣,与美国高科技大盘股的估值相比,也是一个巨大的折扣——例如,亚马逊 (AMZN) 的交易价格是今年市盈率的 59 倍。</blockquote></p><p> If we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:</p><p><blockquote>如果我们想使用 23 倍市盈率使阿里巴巴的股价达到 500 美元,那么阿里巴巴-SW必须产生的每股收益为 21.70 美元。什么时候会是这样?在下图中,我们看到了今年、明年(2022 财年)和 2023 财年的每股收益预测:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6fcf78e0b071eff9753afbdcd96f751c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.</p><p><blockquote>如果分析师是正确的,阿里巴巴-SW到 2023 年将无法实现每股 22 美元的盈利,我认为这是现实的。我也不认为今年到 2023 年每股收益会增长 100% 以上。从2023年开始,阿里巴巴的每股收益需要再增长43%才能达到21.70美元,这是我们500美元股价的“目标每股收益”。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b4c351b4b5eb3328191ccaa9a3b776c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.</p><p><blockquote>分析师目前预测长期每股收益增长约 27%,这意味着阿里巴巴-SW需要大约 1.5 年的时间才能将每股收益从 15.20 美元(2023 年估计)增长到我们的目标 21.70 美元。即使我们假设这过于乐观,2024 年和 2025 年的增长率仅为 20%,到 2025 年底,每股收益也可能达到 21.70 美元。因此,换句话说,如果阿里巴巴-SW的增长略低于分析师目前的预测,那么到 2025 年底(即 4.5 年后),阿里巴巴-SW的交易价格可能达到 500 美元。请注意,这种情况根本不需要高市盈率——我相信,在净利润的 23 倍下,阿里巴巴-SW不会很贵。</blockquote></p><p> We can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.</p><p><blockquote>我们可以更加保守,假设 2023 年每股收益预测过高 10%,并且 2023 年之后的几年每股收益每年仅增长 17%(而分析师社区的长期预测为每年 27%)。在这种情况下,阿里巴巴-SW 2026 年的每股收益将达到 21.70 美元,未来 5.5 年内股价将升至 500 美元。即使在这种情况下,阿里巴巴也根本不是一项糟糕的投资——未来 5.5 年内股价从当前水平上涨 130%,年化回报率为 16%。</blockquote></p><p> So, to sum this section up, I'd say<i>yes, BABA can hit $500</i>-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.</p><p><blockquote>所以,总结这一部分,我会说<i>是的,爸爸可以达到 500 美元</i>——但实际上这需要几年时间。到 2020 年代中期,这对我来说似乎是一个非常容易实现的目标,尽管当然,没有任何保证。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴-SW股票现在是买入还是卖出?</b></blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,阿里巴巴-SW集团是一项强有力的投资。该公司从多个长期宏观趋势中实现了强劲的增长和利润,例如中国不断增长的消费者支出、不断增长的电子商务市场份额和云计算。然而,也有一些风险需要考虑:阿里巴巴-SW高度依赖中国,如果中国的经济增长故事结束,阿里巴巴-SW将受到很大伤害。最重要的是,阿里巴巴-SW可能会再次成为监管机构的目标,尽管我个人认为伤害中国增长最快的科技公司之一不符合中国的最佳利益。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> For those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.</p><p><blockquote>对于那些担心这些风险的人来说,阿里巴巴-SW可能不是正确的选择,但对于那些认为阿里巴巴-SW对中国消费者来说可能是一个非常有益的游戏的人来说,阿里巴巴可能是多元化投资组合中的一个有力选择。我属于后一类,因此以当前估值将该股评级为买入,预计未来几年将有显着上涨空间。然而,根据你的风险承受能力以及你如何权衡投资中国公司的机会和威胁,你可能会做出不同的决定。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500? 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If You Got Time, Yes<blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW股票能突破500美元吗?如果你有时间,是的</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">seekingalpha</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-04 20:40</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><b>Summary</b></p><p><blockquote><b>总结</b></blockquote></p><p> <ul> <li>Alibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.</li> <li>I believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.</li> <li>In the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.</li> </ul> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/567d19950e6c8789ce2192b4503f0fa5\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"653\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Photo by efetova/iStock via Getty Images</span></p><p><blockquote><ul><li>阿里巴巴-SW是一只战场股票,有些人看到了很多机会,而另一些人则看到了很多风险。</li><li>我相信机遇和风险并存,但我认为前者大于后者。</li><li>从长远来看,阿里巴巴有机会为那些以当前相当低的估值购买的人带来强劲收益。</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>照片由 efetova/iStock 提供,来自 Getty Images</span></p></blockquote></p><p> <b>Article Thesis</b></p><p><blockquote><b>文章论文</b></blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.</p><p><blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW集团(BABA)是全球领先的高科技公司,持续产生有吸引力的增长,并为投资者提供了高增长的中国消费市场的机会。同时,通过一系列的创业,阿里巴巴-SW还活跃在额外的行业,比如云计算。过去几个月股价大幅下跌,但我相信长期潜力巨大。看到股价上涨至 500 美元,我不会感到惊讶,尽管这在短期内不会发生。</blockquote></p><p> <b>BABA Stock Price</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴股价</b></blockquote></p><p> Since its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:</p><p><blockquote>自首次公开募股以来,阿里巴巴-SW股价强劲上涨,但还应该提到的是,2020 年下半年股价确实下跌,此后大幅下跌:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8079eeb5384ea003fb3725d3cd1e877f\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Shares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.</p><p><blockquote>由于蚂蚁金服的 IPO 计划被叫停,2020 年夏季的涨幅已被抹去,股价现在基本与一年前持平。不过,去年持平的股价表现有些令人惊讶,因为阿里巴巴-SW在那段时间内继续取得强劲的业绩。例如,上一季度阿里巴巴-SW的收入增长率为64%,而上一季度的收入增长也非常强劲,约为50%。然而,这并不是阿里巴巴财报发布中唯一的积极因素。仅在最近一个季度,该公司的用户数量就增加了3200万,相当于年化用户增长率约为20%。这对未来几个季度来说是个好兆头,因为阿里巴巴平台上的更多用户应该会转化为更高的收入。最重要的是,强劲的用户增长表明,对阿里巴巴平台提供的购物服务的需求仍在增长——市场根本没有饱和。阿里巴巴-SW还设法将其 EBITDA 同比增长 25%,这也是一个有吸引力的增长速度,尽管对评级管理关键增长领域的投资不断增加,但仍实现了这一目标。与此同时,由于一些运营杠杆,营业收入增长速度更快,经阿里巴巴-SW第一季度必须支付的罚款调整后,营业收入同比增长 48%。我认为,放弃这一一次性项目是有意义的,以便更清楚地了解阿里巴巴平均一个季度的潜在“核心”盈利能力。</blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.</p><p><blockquote>因此,相对于大盘和其他科技公司而言,阿里巴巴-SW集团的股价表现疲软并不是经营业绩疲软的结果,而是由于投资者情绪疲软导致中国风险敞口和对监管的担忧导致的多重压缩的结果。</blockquote></p><p> At its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.</p><p><blockquote>以目前 220 美元的价格计算,与目前分析师一致的目标价 298 美元相比,阿里巴巴的股价有相当大的折扣。如果阿里巴巴-SW达到这一目标,股价将上涨 35%。分析师目标价通常以 1 年为期限发布,因此,如果分析师社区是正确的,阿里巴巴-SW可能是一项很好的投资。从估值的角度来看,这个价格目标似乎一点也不离谱,因为 298 美元相当于今年预期净利润的约 29 倍,或明年净利润的 23 倍。当我们谈论 2022 年夏季(即一年后)的价格目标时,后者可能更能说明问题。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Can Alibaba Stock Hit $500?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴-SW股票能突破500美元吗?</b></blockquote></p><p> The answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,这个问题的答案取决于你的时间框架。如果你看的是12个月的窗口,那么阿里巴巴-SW很可能无法达到500美元。300美元左右的价格目标似乎是可以实现的,尽管这当然也不能保证。然而,如果我们从长远来看,那么 500 美元似乎是阿里巴巴最终可能达到的股价。让我们看几个例子。</blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW在某个时候每股收益为 20 美元,并且市盈率为 25,那么股票的交易价格将为 500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW每股收益为 25 美元,市盈率为 20 倍,那么股票交易价格将为 500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p> <i>- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.</i></p><p><blockquote><i>- 如果阿里巴巴-SW每股收益为 17 美元,交易价格为净利润的 29 倍,那么股价将(略低于)500 美元。</i></blockquote></p><p></p><p> We see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:</p><p><blockquote>我们看到,有许多情况可能会让阿里巴巴的股价达到 500 美元,其中一些情况比其他情况更有可能。当然,你的目标倍数越高,所需的收入就越低。这反过来意味着价格目标可以更快实现,因为所需的累计盈利增长较少。当我们查看阿里巴巴-SW过去的估值时,我们会发现阿里巴巴的长期市盈率中位数如下:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd2d42b7094deb394266d6410287c2e4\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> At 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.</p><p><blockquote>阿里巴巴-SW的净利润为 30-40 倍,相对于目前的股票估值(约为今年收益的 20 倍),其交易价格显然大幅溢价。我认为目前的估值太低了,但另一方面,我预计阿里巴巴-SW未来几年的净利润不会达到 30 倍、35 倍甚至 40 倍。由于阿里巴巴-SW的规模不断扩大,这使得其在未来几年保持出色的增长变得更加困难,与过去的估值相比,未来几年的股票估值可能会更低。</blockquote></p><p> I still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.</p><p><blockquote>我仍然认为,从目前21倍左右的市盈率来看,股票确实有一些估值扩张潜力,因此让我们假设股票未来的交易价格是净利润的23倍。与历史估值相比,这仍然是一个巨大的折扣,与美国高科技大盘股的估值相比,也是一个巨大的折扣——例如,亚马逊 (AMZN) 的交易价格是今年市盈率的 59 倍。</blockquote></p><p> If we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:</p><p><blockquote>如果我们想使用 23 倍市盈率使阿里巴巴的股价达到 500 美元,那么阿里巴巴-SW必须产生的每股收益为 21.70 美元。什么时候会是这样?在下图中,我们看到了今年、明年(2022 财年)和 2023 财年的每股收益预测:</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6fcf78e0b071eff9753afbdcd96f751c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> If analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.</p><p><blockquote>如果分析师是正确的,阿里巴巴-SW到 2023 年将无法实现每股 22 美元的盈利,我认为这是现实的。我也不认为今年到 2023 年每股收益会增长 100% 以上。从2023年开始,阿里巴巴的每股收益需要再增长43%才能达到21.70美元,这是我们500美元股价的“目标每股收益”。</blockquote></p><p> <p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b4c351b4b5eb3328191ccaa9a3b776c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"403\"><span>Data byYCharts</span></p><p><blockquote><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><span>数据来源:YCharts</span></p></blockquote></p><p> Analysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.</p><p><blockquote>分析师目前预测长期每股收益增长约 27%,这意味着阿里巴巴-SW需要大约 1.5 年的时间才能将每股收益从 15.20 美元(2023 年估计)增长到我们的目标 21.70 美元。即使我们假设这过于乐观,2024 年和 2025 年的增长率仅为 20%,到 2025 年底,每股收益也可能达到 21.70 美元。因此,换句话说,如果阿里巴巴-SW的增长略低于分析师目前的预测,那么到 2025 年底(即 4.5 年后),阿里巴巴-SW的交易价格可能达到 500 美元。请注意,这种情况根本不需要高市盈率——我相信,在净利润的 23 倍下,阿里巴巴-SW不会很贵。</blockquote></p><p> We can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.</p><p><blockquote>我们可以更加保守,假设 2023 年每股收益预测过高 10%,并且 2023 年之后的几年每股收益每年仅增长 17%(而分析师社区的长期预测为每年 27%)。在这种情况下,阿里巴巴-SW 2026 年的每股收益将达到 21.70 美元,未来 5.5 年内股价将升至 500 美元。即使在这种情况下,阿里巴巴也根本不是一项糟糕的投资——未来 5.5 年内股价从当前水平上涨 130%,年化回报率为 16%。</blockquote></p><p> So, to sum this section up, I'd say<i>yes, BABA can hit $500</i>-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.</p><p><blockquote>所以,总结这一部分,我会说<i>是的,爸爸可以达到 500 美元</i>——但实际上这需要几年时间。到 2020 年代中期,这对我来说似乎是一个非常容易实现的目标,尽管当然,没有任何保证。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Is Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>阿里巴巴-SW股票现在是买入还是卖出?</b></blockquote></p><p> Alibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.</p><p><blockquote>我认为,阿里巴巴-SW集团是一项强有力的投资。该公司从多个长期宏观趋势中实现了强劲的增长和利润,例如中国不断增长的消费者支出、不断增长的电子商务市场份额和云计算。然而,也有一些风险需要考虑:阿里巴巴-SW高度依赖中国,如果中国的经济增长故事结束,阿里巴巴-SW将受到很大伤害。最重要的是,阿里巴巴-SW可能会再次成为监管机构的目标,尽管我个人认为伤害中国增长最快的科技公司之一不符合中国的最佳利益。</blockquote></p><p></p><p> For those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. Depending on your risk tolerance and how you weigh the opportunities and threats of investing in Chinese companies, you may decide differently, however.</p><p><blockquote>对于那些担心这些风险的人来说,阿里巴巴-SW可能不是正确的选择,但对于那些认为阿里巴巴-SW对中国消费者来说可能是一个非常有益的游戏的人来说,阿里巴巴可能是多元化投资组合中的一个有力选择。我属于后一类,因此以当前估值将该股评级为买入,预计未来几年将有显着上涨空间。然而,根据你的风险承受能力以及你如何权衡投资中国公司的机会和威胁,你可能会做出不同的决定。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500\">seekingalpha</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432992-alibaba-stock-hit-500","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1154529120","content_text":"Summary\n\nAlibaba is a battleground stock where some see a lot of opportunities, while others see many risks.\nI believe that there are both opportunities and risks, but would see the prior outweighing the latter.\nIn the long run, BABA has a chance of delivering strong gains for those that buy at the current, quite low, valuation.\n\nPhoto by efetova/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAlibaba Group (BABA) is a leading global high-tech name that continues to generate attractive growth and that offers investors exposure to the high-growth Chinese consumer market. At the same time, through a range of ventures, Alibaba is also active in additional industries, such as cloud computing. Shares have declined considerably over the last couple of months, but I believe that the long-term potential is significant. I would not be surprised to see shares rise towards $500, although that will not happen in the near term.\nBABA Stock Price\nSince its IPO, Alibaba has seen strong share price gains, but it should also be mentioned that shares did peek in H2 2020, and have declined considerably since then:\nData byYCharts\nShares are now basically where they were one year ago, as the gains during summer 2020 have been erased when Ant Financial's IPO plans were stopped. The flat share price performance over the last year is somewhat surprising, though, as Alibaba continued to generate strong results in that time frame. During the last quarter, for example, Alibaba showcased a revenue growth rate of 64%, while revenue growth during the previous quarter was also very strong, at around 50%. This is not the only positive in Alibaba's earnings releases, however. The company also managed to grow its user count by 32 million during the most recent quarter alone, which equates to an annualized user growth rate of around 20%. This bodes well for future quarters, as more users on Alibaba's platform should translate into higher revenues. On top of that, the strong user growth shows that there is still growing demand for the shopping services that Alibaba's platforms offer -- the market is not saturated at all. Alibaba also managed to grow its EBITDA by 25% year over year, which is an attractive growth pace as well, and which was achieved despite growing investments in what management calls key growth areas. Income from operations, meanwhile, grew at an even faster pace, thanks to some operating leverage, rising by 48% year over year when adjusted for the fine that Alibaba had to pay during Q1. It makes, I believe, sense to back out this one-time item to get a clearer picture about Alibaba's underlying, \"core\" profitability during an average quarter.\nAlibaba Group's weak share price performance, relative to the broad market and other tech names, is thus not the result of weak operating performance, but rather a result of multiple compression, driven by weak investor sentiment due to China exposure and fears about regulation.\nAt its current price of $220, BABA trades at a quite large discount compared to the current consensus analyst price target of $298. If Alibaba were to hit that, shares would gain 35%. Analyst price targets are usually issued with a 1-year time frame, thus, if the analyst community is correct, Alibaba could be a great investment. From a valuation standpoint, this price target doesn't seem outrageous at all, as $298 would equate to around 29x this year's expected net profits, or 23x next year's net earnings. The latter is likely the more telling one when we talk about a price target for summer 2022, i.e. 1 year from now.\nCan Alibaba Stock Hit $500?\nThe answer to that question, I think, depends on your time frame. If you are looking at a 12-month window, then Alibaba will most likely not be able to hit $500. The ~$300 price target seems achievable, although that is, of course, also not guaranteed. If, however, we take a longer-term view, then $500 seems like a share price that BABA could hit eventually. Let's look at a couple of examples.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $20 at some point and traded at an earnings multiple of 25, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $25 and traded at a 20x earnings multiple, then shares would trade at $500.\n- If Alibaba were to generate earnings per share of $17 and traded at 29x its net profits, then shares would trade at (marginally below) $500.\nWe see that there are many scenarios that could get us to a $500 share price for BABA, some of them more likely than others. Of course, the higher your target multiple, the lower the earnings that would be required. This, in turn, means that the price target can be hit sooner, as less cumulative earnings growth would be required. When we take a look at how Alibaba was valued in the past, we see that the longer-term median earnings multiples for BABA look like this:\nData byYCharts\nAt 30-40x net earnings, Alibaba was clearly trading at a massive premium relative to how shares are valued today (around 20x this year's earnings). I think that the current valuation is too low, but on the other hand, I do not expect Alibaba to trade at 30, 35, or even 40x net profits in coming years. Due to the growing scale of Alibaba, which makes it a little harder to maintain its excellent growth in coming years, shares will likely trade at a lower valuation in coming years, compared to how they were valued in the past.\nI still think that shares do have some valuation expansion potential from the current earnings multiple of around 21, thus let's assume that shares trade at 23x net profits in the future. This would still represent a massive discount versus the historic valuation, and also a substantial discount compared to how US-based high-tech mega-caps are valued -- Amazon (AMZN), for example, trades at 59x this year's earnings.\nIf we want to get to a $500 share price for BABA using a 23x earnings multiple, then we get to earnings per share of $21.70 that Alibaba must generate. When could this be the case? In the following chart, we see EPS estimates for the current year, next year (CY 2022), and CY 2023:\nData byYCharts\nIf analysts are right, Alibaba will not get to earn $22 a share through 2023, and I think that is realistic. I do not see earnings per share rising by 100%+ between this year and 2023, either. From 2023, it would take another 43% increase in Alibaba's earnings per share to get to $21.70, which is our \"target EPS\" for a $500 share price.\nData byYCharts\nAnalysts are currently forecasting long-term EPS growth of around 27%, which would mean it would take Alibaba about 1.5 years to grow its EPS from $15.20 (2023 estimate) to our target of $21.70. Even if we assume that this is too optimistic and that growth will be just 20% in 2024 and 2025, EPS of $21.70 could be hit by the end of 2025. So, in other words, if Alibaba grows a little less than what analysts are forecasting right now, Alibaba could trade at $500 by the end of 2025 -- or 4.5 years from now. Note that this scenario does not require a high earnings multiple at all -- at 23x net profits, Alibaba wouldn't be expensive, I believe.\nWe can get even more conservative and assume that the 2023 EPS estimate is 10% too high and that EPS will grow by just 17% a year in the years beyond 2023 (versus a long-term forecast of 27% a year by the analyst community). In that case, Alibaba would hit $21.70 in earnings per share in 2026, and shares would rise to $500 over the next 5.5 years. Even in this scenario, BABA wouldn't be a bad investment at all -- a 130% share price increase from the current level over the next 5.5 years would equate to annualized returns of 16%.\nSo, to sum this section up, I'd sayyes, BABA can hit $500-- but it will realistically take a couple of years. By the mid-2020s, this seems like a very achievable goal to me, although there are, of course, no guarantees.\nIs Alibaba Stock A Buy Or Sell Now?\nAlibaba Group is, I believe, a strong investment. The company generates strong growth, profits from multiple long-term macro trends, such as growing consumer spending in China, growing e-commerce market share, and cloud computing. There are, however, risks to consider: Alibaba is highly China-dependent, and in case the economic growth story in China ends, Alibaba would be hurt a lot. On top of that, Alibaba could be targeted again by regulators, although I personally think that it is not in China's best interest to hurt one of its highest-growth tech companies.\nFor those that worry about these risks, Alibaba may not be the right choice, but for those that see Alibaba as a potentially very rewarding play on Chinese consumers, BABA could be a strong pick in a diversified portfolio. I belong to the latter group and thus rate the stock a buy at current valuations, expecting significant upside over the coming years. 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报告</blockquote></p><p>* Companies’ assets insufficient to meet potential claims</p><p><blockquote>* 公司资产不足以满足潜在索赔要求</blockquote></p><p>SINGAPORE, May 27 (Reuters) - Singapore firms accused of being involved in a $1.1-billion bogus nickel trading scheme should be placed in liquidation as there was no business to be preserved, interim judicial managers at accounting firm KPMG have said in a document seen by Reuters.</p><p><blockquote>路透新加坡5月27日 - 毕马威会计师事务所临时司法经理在路透社看到的一份文件中表示,被指控参与11亿美元虚假镍交易计划的新加坡公司应该被清算,因为没有业务可以保留。</blockquote></p><p>Authorities in the city state have implicated Ng Yu Zhi, a former managing director of trading companies Envy Global Trading (EGT) and an inactive firm, Envy Asset Management, in the fraud, one of the biggest in Singapore.</p><p><blockquote>新加坡当局已将贸易公司 Envy Global Trading (EGT) 的前董事总经理 Ng Yu Zhi 和一家不活跃的公司 Envy Asset Management 牵连到新加坡最大的欺诈案之一中。</blockquote></p><p>Last month, Singapore’s High Court appointed KPMG as the interim judicial manager for the firms, as well as a related company, Envy Management Holdings.</p><p><blockquote>上个月,新加坡高等法院任命毕马威会计师事务所为这两家公司以及一家关联公司 Envy Management Holdings 的临时司法经理。</blockquote></p><p>Ng faces more than a dozen charges of cheating and fraud brought by prosecutors over the scheme, which the authorities say raised money from investors to fund non-existent nickel deals.</p><p><blockquote>吴面临检察官对该计划提出的十几项欺诈和欺诈指控,当局称该计划从投资者那里筹集资金,为不存在的镍交易提供资金。</blockquote></p><p>Ng has not made any public comment on the charges, following which he was removed from his role as managing director of EGT. The companies have not been charged.</p><p><blockquote>吴先生没有对这些指控发表任何公开评论,随后他被免去了EGT董事总经理的职务。这些公司尚未受到指控。</blockquote></p><p>“The companies’ assets...are grossly insufficient to meet the potential claims of the companies’ creditors,” the interim judicial managers said in their report, dated Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>“临时司法管理人员在周二的报告中说:”这些公司的资产......严重不足,不足以满足公司债权人的潜在索赔。</blockquote></p><p>“We recommend the companies be placed into liquidation and that appropriate steps be taken as soon as practicable to recover the assets of the companies.”</p><p><blockquote>“我们建议对这些公司进行清算,并在切实可行的情况下尽快采取适当措施收回这些公司的资产”。</blockquote></p><p>The report said the scheme purportedly raised about S$1.5 billion ($1.13 billion) from nearly 1,000 investors, with about S$731 million of this later withdrawn by investors.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,该计划据称从近1000名投资者那里筹集了约15亿新元(11.3亿美元),其中约7.31亿新元后来被投资者提取。</blockquote></p><p>Authorities have previously said at least S$1 billion was raised in the scheme.</p><p><blockquote>当局此前曾表示,该计划至少筹集了 10 亿新元。</blockquote></p><p>The managers, led by Bob Yap, a KPMG partner in Asia, declined to comment on the report on grounds of confidentiality.</p><p><blockquote>由毕马威亚洲合伙人鲍勃·叶(Bob Yap)领导的管理层以保密为由拒绝对该报告发表评论。</blockquote></p><p>Envy Group and Ng did not immediately respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>Envy Group 和 Ng 没有立即回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p>The judicial managers’ report also concluded that none of the funds from investors were used for nickel trades, and that any investment returns were likely to have come from investor funds.</p><p><blockquote>司法管理人的报告还得出结论,投资者的资金都没有用于镍交易,任何投资回报都很可能来自投资者的资金。</blockquote></p><p>Documents were forged and a video of a nickel shipment inspection recorded to convince investors of the existence of the purported trading, the report added.</p><p><blockquote>报告补充说,文件是伪造的,并录制了镍运输检查的视频,以让投资者相信所谓交易的存在。</blockquote></p><p>“We conclude that the objectives of judicial management cannot be achieved for any of the companies. There is, most significantly, no business for the judicial managers to preserve or continue,” the managers said in the report.</p><p><blockquote>“我们的结论是,任何一家公司都无法实现司法管理的目标。最重要的是,司法管理人员没有业务可以保留或继续,”经理们在报告中说。</blockquote></p><p>The managers will continue investigations into the companies’ affairs, they added.</p><p><blockquote>他们补充说,管理层将继续调查公司的事务。</blockquote></p><p>During the period from July 2020 to February 2021, EGT made nearly 1,200 fund transfers, totalling S$238.6 million, to two bank accounts, at least one of them belonging to Ng, the report said.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,在2020年7月至2021年2月期间,EGT向两个银行账户进行了近1200笔资金转账,总额为2.386亿新元,其中至少有一个属于Ng。</blockquote></p><p>Ng made, or caused to be made, an average of 150 transfers a month and up to 41 transfers a day during this period, and separately received S$29 million in director’s fees, it said.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,在此期间,Ng 平均每月进行或导致进行 150 次转账,每天多达 41 次转账,并分别收取了 2900 万新元的董事费。</blockquote></p><p>Ng has declined to meet the KPMG officials, it added.</p><p><blockquote>它补充说,吴拒绝会见毕马威官员。</blockquote></p><p>Besides Ng, the report identified Lee Si Ye as an ultimate beneficial owner of the Envy Group. Lee did not immediately respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>除吴先生外,该报告还认定李思烨为Envy集团的最终实益拥有人。李没有立即回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p>If convicted, Ng faces a jail term of up to seven years on the fraudulent trading charges, while cheating is punishable with up to 10 years. ($1=S$1.3240) (Additional reporting by Mai Nguyen in Hanoi and Aradhana Aravindan in Singapore; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)</p><p><blockquote>如果罪名成立,吴将因欺诈交易罪面临最高七年的监禁,而作弊罪最高可判处 10 年监禁。(1 美元 = 1.3240 新元)(河内 Mai Nguyen 和新加坡 Aradhana Aravindan 的补充报道;Clarence Fernandez 编辑)</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>KPMG managers back liquidation of Singapore firms in $1 bln nickel scandal<blockquote>毕马威经理支持在 10 亿美元镍丑闻中清算新加坡公司</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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The companies have not been charged.</p><p><blockquote>吴先生没有对这些指控发表任何公开评论,随后他被免去了EGT董事总经理的职务。这些公司尚未受到指控。</blockquote></p><p>“The companies’ assets...are grossly insufficient to meet the potential claims of the companies’ creditors,” the interim judicial managers said in their report, dated Tuesday.</p><p><blockquote>“临时司法管理人员在周二的报告中说:”这些公司的资产......严重不足,不足以满足公司债权人的潜在索赔。</blockquote></p><p>“We recommend the companies be placed into liquidation and that appropriate steps be taken as soon as practicable to recover the assets of the companies.”</p><p><blockquote>“我们建议对这些公司进行清算,并在切实可行的情况下尽快采取适当措施收回这些公司的资产”。</blockquote></p><p>The report said the scheme purportedly raised about S$1.5 billion ($1.13 billion) from nearly 1,000 investors, with about S$731 million of this later withdrawn by investors.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,该计划据称从近1000名投资者那里筹集了约15亿新元(11.3亿美元),其中约7.31亿新元后来被投资者提取。</blockquote></p><p>Authorities have previously said at least S$1 billion was raised in the scheme.</p><p><blockquote>当局此前曾表示,该计划至少筹集了 10 亿新元。</blockquote></p><p>The managers, led by Bob Yap, a KPMG partner in Asia, declined to comment on the report on grounds of confidentiality.</p><p><blockquote>由毕马威亚洲合伙人鲍勃·叶(Bob Yap)领导的管理层以保密为由拒绝对该报告发表评论。</blockquote></p><p>Envy Group and Ng did not immediately respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>Envy Group 和 Ng 没有立即回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p>The judicial managers’ report also concluded that none of the funds from investors were used for nickel trades, and that any investment returns were likely to have come from investor funds.</p><p><blockquote>司法管理人的报告还得出结论,投资者的资金都没有用于镍交易,任何投资回报都很可能来自投资者的资金。</blockquote></p><p>Documents were forged and a video of a nickel shipment inspection recorded to convince investors of the existence of the purported trading, the report added.</p><p><blockquote>报告补充说,文件是伪造的,并录制了镍运输检查的视频,以让投资者相信所谓交易的存在。</blockquote></p><p>“We conclude that the objectives of judicial management cannot be achieved for any of the companies. There is, most significantly, no business for the judicial managers to preserve or continue,” the managers said in the report.</p><p><blockquote>“我们的结论是,任何一家公司都无法实现司法管理的目标。最重要的是,司法管理人员没有业务可以保留或继续,”经理们在报告中说。</blockquote></p><p>The managers will continue investigations into the companies’ affairs, they added.</p><p><blockquote>他们补充说,管理层将继续调查公司的事务。</blockquote></p><p>During the period from July 2020 to February 2021, EGT made nearly 1,200 fund transfers, totalling S$238.6 million, to two bank accounts, at least one of them belonging to Ng, the report said.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,在2020年7月至2021年2月期间,EGT向两个银行账户进行了近1200笔资金转账,总额为2.386亿新元,其中至少有一个属于Ng。</blockquote></p><p>Ng made, or caused to be made, an average of 150 transfers a month and up to 41 transfers a day during this period, and separately received S$29 million in director’s fees, it said.</p><p><blockquote>报告称,在此期间,Ng 平均每月进行或导致进行 150 次转账,每天多达 41 次转账,并分别收取了 2900 万新元的董事费。</blockquote></p><p>Ng has declined to meet the KPMG officials, it added.</p><p><blockquote>它补充说,吴拒绝会见毕马威官员。</blockquote></p><p>Besides Ng, the report identified Lee Si Ye as an ultimate beneficial owner of the Envy Group. Lee did not immediately respond to a request for comment.</p><p><blockquote>除吴先生外,该报告还认定李思烨为Envy集团的最终实益拥有人。李没有立即回应置评请求。</blockquote></p><p>If convicted, Ng faces a jail term of up to seven years on the fraudulent trading charges, while cheating is punishable with up to 10 years. ($1=S$1.3240) (Additional reporting by Mai Nguyen in Hanoi and Aradhana Aravindan in Singapore; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)</p><p><blockquote>如果罪名成立,吴将因欺诈交易罪面临最高七年的监禁,而作弊罪最高可判处 10 年监禁。(1 美元 = 1.3240 新元)(河内 Mai Nguyen 和新加坡 Aradhana Aravindan 的补充报道;Clarence Fernandez 编辑)</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源:<a href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/envy-metals-fraud/exclusive-kpmg-managers-back-liquidation-of-singapore-firms-in-1-bln-nickel-scandal-idUSL3N2NE0UV\">Reuters</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验,我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://www.reuters.com/article/envy-metals-fraud/exclusive-kpmg-managers-back-liquidation-of-singapore-firms-in-1-bln-nickel-scandal-idUSL3N2NE0UV","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1101549259","content_text":"* Scheme raised S$1.5 bln from nearly 1,000 investors -report* Companies’ assets insufficient to meet potential claimsSINGAPORE, May 27 (Reuters) - Singapore firms accused of being involved in a $1.1-billion bogus nickel trading scheme should be placed in liquidation as there was no business to be preserved, interim judicial managers at accounting firm KPMG have said in a document seen by Reuters.Authorities in the city state have implicated Ng Yu Zhi, a former managing director of trading companies Envy Global Trading (EGT) and an inactive firm, Envy Asset Management, in the fraud, one of the biggest in Singapore.Last month, Singapore’s High Court appointed KPMG as the interim judicial manager for the firms, as well as a related company, Envy Management Holdings.Ng faces more than a dozen charges of cheating and fraud brought by prosecutors over the scheme, which the authorities say raised money from investors to fund non-existent nickel deals.Ng has not made any public comment on the charges, following which he was removed from his role as managing director of EGT. The companies have not been charged.“The companies’ assets...are grossly insufficient to meet the potential claims of the companies’ creditors,” the interim judicial managers said in their report, dated Tuesday.“We recommend the companies be placed into liquidation and that appropriate steps be taken as soon as practicable to recover the assets of the companies.”The report said the scheme purportedly raised about S$1.5 billion ($1.13 billion) from nearly 1,000 investors, with about S$731 million of this later withdrawn by investors.Authorities have previously said at least S$1 billion was raised in the scheme.The managers, led by Bob Yap, a KPMG partner in Asia, declined to comment on the report on grounds of confidentiality.Envy Group and Ng did not immediately respond to a request for comment.The judicial managers’ report also concluded that none of the funds from investors were used for nickel trades, and that any investment returns were likely to have come from investor funds.Documents were forged and a video of a nickel shipment inspection recorded to convince investors of the existence of the purported trading, the report added.“We conclude that the objectives of judicial management cannot be achieved for any of the companies. There is, most significantly, no business for the judicial managers to preserve or continue,” the managers said in the report.The managers will continue investigations into the companies’ affairs, they added.During the period from July 2020 to February 2021, EGT made nearly 1,200 fund transfers, totalling S$238.6 million, to two bank accounts, at least one of them belonging to Ng, the report said.Ng made, or caused to be made, an average of 150 transfers a month and up to 41 transfers a day during this period, and separately received S$29 million in director’s fees, it said.Ng has declined to meet the KPMG officials, it added.Besides Ng, the report identified Lee Si Ye as an ultimate beneficial owner of the Envy Group. Lee did not immediately respond to a request for comment.If convicted, Ng faces a jail term of up to seven years on the fraudulent trading charges, while cheating is punishable with up to 10 years. 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