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2021-09-29

$Camber Energy(CEI)$hld we are going to $4, $5, $10

2021-09-28

$Camber Energy(CEI)$$3 tonight

2021-07-08

$AMC Entertainment(AMC)$trust the process. period.

2021-11-02

$Histogenics(OCGN)$break $15 today

2021-10-27

$Genius Brands International Inc(GNUS)$10.45am ET unhalt

2021-10-08

$Camber Energy(CEI)$hdl and push to $2

2021-09-11

$Camber Energy(CEI)$whats going on?

2021-09-02

many dumb analysts

Bear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote>

2021-08-25

amcx and amc are two different entities. remove this post man.

AMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan Steps Down After 26-Year Run<blockquote>AMC Networks首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)在任职26年后辞职</blockquote>

2021-09-29

$Camber Energy(CEI)$hdl let’s aim bigger $3.50 today.

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analysts","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/812502914","repostId":"1131318558","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1131318558","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1630591645,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1131318558?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-02 22:07","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Bear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1131318558","media":"Thestreet","summary":"One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock  finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still sees shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall ","content":"<p>One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?</p><p><blockquote>对苹果股票给予卖出评级的两位华尔街分析师之一认输了。另一位仍然认为AAPL股价可能会下跌40%。巨大的下行风险现实吗？</blockquote></p><p> On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock&nbsp;(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still&nbsp;sees&nbsp;shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.</p><p><blockquote>九月的第一天，华尔街罕见的看空苹果股票之一（<b>AAPL</b>）最终让步，下调了卖出评级。剩下的最后一位仍将股价跌至90美元的目标价，损失风险约为40%。</blockquote></p><p> Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.</p><p><blockquote>New Street的Pierre Ferragu是华尔街最后一位看空苹果的人，他对看涨期权下行的看法可能是正确的吗？这位苹果专家更仔细地观察了这场争论。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why bearish on Apple?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么看空苹果？</b></blockquote></p><p> The core of Pierre’s bearish argument&nbsp;seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.</p><p><blockquote>Pierre看空论点的核心似乎是iPhone。这位分析师将即将推出的设备称为“12S周期”，认为苹果iPhone升级浪潮中最好的部分，即所谓的5G超级周期，已经成为过去。</blockquote></p><p> New Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the&nbsp;opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:</p><p><blockquote>New Street赞同这样的观点，即强劲的iPhone 12周期拉动了智能手机销量，导致未来需求出现缺口。有趣的是，这与看涨的Wedbush分析师Dan Ives的观点完全相反，Dan Ives在接受《苹果专家》采访时表示：</blockquote></p><p>   “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”  Still on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.</p><p><blockquote>“华尔街低估了这个超级周期的规模和长度。[……]在网络建成之前，5G在未来两三年内不会被完全接受。在中国（5G基础设施更加领先），iPhone 12，尤其是较大的Pro版本，确实卖得非常好。”Ferragu先生仍然在iPhone上，早在4月份就提出了他对2022年的预期（我不知道此后有任何修改）。他认为iPhone出货量将达到1.9亿部，这意味着该部门的收入约为1500亿美元——比COVID-19水平每年小幅增长5%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Could AAPL sink 40%?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>AAPL会下跌40%吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> Now, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).</p><p><blockquote>现在，让我们动笔。苹果股票的估值要达到每股90美元，需要发生两件事之一：要么财务业绩需要落后于普遍预期，要么估值需要收缩（或两者兼而有之）。</blockquote></p><p> On results,Wall Street currently sees&nbsp;fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.</p><p><blockquote>从业绩来看，华尔街目前预计2022财年每股收益将达到5.63美元，与迄今为止令人印象深刻的2021财年基本持平。因此，苹果公司要想股价下跌40%，明年的盈利就需要大幅低于市场预期，至少下降几美元。我觉得这不太可能。</blockquote></p><p> On valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.</p><p><blockquote>从估值来看，AAPL目前的2021财年市盈率为27倍。假设未来的结果与共识匹配，这一市盈率需要降至16倍左右，AAPL股价才能跌至90美元。该股的预期市盈率多年来从未如此低。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> I find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. It is much more reasonable, in my opinion, that New Street’s current price target on the stock is simply stale, following AAPL’s 25% rally in the past six months.</p><p><blockquote>我发现苹果的估值即使不是几乎不可能，也不太可能再次达到每股90美元。在我看来，更合理的是，在AAPL在过去六个月内上涨了25%之后，New Street目前的股价目标已经过时了。</blockquote></p><p> Therefore, I would not be surprised to see Wall Street’s last AAPL bear eventually (soon?) give in on his downside convictions, at least in what pertains to his current price target.</p><p><blockquote>因此，看到华尔街最后一次看空苹果公司最终（很快？）屈服于他的下行信念，至少在与他当前的价格目标相关的方面，我不会感到惊讶。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Bear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Thestreet</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-09-02 22:07</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?</p><p><blockquote>对苹果股票给予卖出评级的两位华尔街分析师之一认输了。另一位仍然认为AAPL股价可能会下跌40%。巨大的下行风险现实吗？</blockquote></p><p> On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock&nbsp;(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still&nbsp;sees&nbsp;shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.</p><p><blockquote>九月的第一天，华尔街罕见的看空苹果股票之一（<b>AAPL</b>）最终让步，下调了卖出评级。剩下的最后一位仍将股价跌至90美元的目标价，损失风险约为40%。</blockquote></p><p> Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.</p><p><blockquote>New Street的Pierre Ferragu是华尔街最后一位看空苹果的人，他对看涨期权下行的看法可能是正确的吗？这位苹果专家更仔细地观察了这场争论。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why bearish on Apple?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么看空苹果？</b></blockquote></p><p> The core of Pierre’s bearish argument&nbsp;seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.</p><p><blockquote>Pierre看空论点的核心似乎是iPhone。这位分析师将即将推出的设备称为“12S周期”，认为苹果iPhone升级浪潮中最好的部分，即所谓的5G超级周期，已经成为过去。</blockquote></p><p> New Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the&nbsp;opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:</p><p><blockquote>New Street赞同这样的观点，即强劲的iPhone 12周期拉动了智能手机销量，导致未来需求出现缺口。有趣的是，这与看涨的Wedbush分析师Dan Ives的观点完全相反，Dan Ives在接受《苹果专家》采访时表示：</blockquote></p><p>   “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”  Still on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.</p><p><blockquote>“华尔街低估了这个超级周期的规模和长度。[……]在网络建成之前，5G在未来两三年内不会被完全接受。在中国（5G基础设施更加领先），iPhone 12，尤其是较大的Pro版本，确实卖得非常好。”Ferragu先生仍然在iPhone上，早在4月份就提出了他对2022年的预期（我不知道此后有任何修改）。他认为iPhone出货量将达到1.9亿部，这意味着该部门的收入约为1500亿美元——比COVID-19水平每年小幅增长5%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Could AAPL sink 40%?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>AAPL会下跌40%吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> Now, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).</p><p><blockquote>现在，让我们动笔。苹果股票的估值要达到每股90美元，需要发生两件事之一：要么财务业绩需要落后于普遍预期，要么估值需要收缩（或两者兼而有之）。</blockquote></p><p> On results,Wall Street currently sees&nbsp;fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.</p><p><blockquote>从业绩来看，华尔街目前预计2022财年每股收益将达到5.63美元，与迄今为止令人印象深刻的2021财年基本持平。因此，苹果公司要想股价下跌40%，明年的盈利就需要大幅低于市场预期，至少下降几美元。我觉得这不太可能。</blockquote></p><p> On valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.</p><p><blockquote>从估值来看，AAPL目前的2021财年市盈率为27倍。假设未来的结果与共识匹配，这一市盈率需要降至16倍左右，AAPL股价才能跌至90美元。该股的预期市盈率多年来从未如此低。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> I find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. It is much more reasonable, in my opinion, that New Street’s current price target on the stock is simply stale, following AAPL’s 25% rally in the past six months.</p><p><blockquote>我发现苹果的估值即使不是几乎不可能，也不太可能再次达到每股90美元。在我看来，更合理的是，在AAPL在过去六个月内上涨了25%之后，New Street目前的股价目标已经过时了。</blockquote></p><p> Therefore, I would not be surprised to see Wall Street’s last AAPL bear eventually (soon?) give in on his downside convictions, at least in what pertains to his current price target.</p><p><blockquote>因此，看到华尔街最后一次看空苹果公司最终（很快？）屈服于他的下行信念，至少在与他当前的价格目标相关的方面，我不会感到惊讶。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/bear-attack-could-apple-stock-really-drop-40\">Thestreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/bear-attack-could-apple-stock-really-drop-40","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1131318558","content_text":"One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?\nOn the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock (AAPL) finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still sees shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.\nCould New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.\nWhy bearish on Apple?\nThe core of Pierre’s bearish argument seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.\nNew Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:\n\n “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”\n\nStill on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.\nCould AAPL sink 40%?\nNow, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).\nOn results,Wall Street currently sees fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.\nOn valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.\nThe Apple Maven’s take\nI find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. 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on?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/881389757","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":959,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":812502914,"gmtCreate":1630593049338,"gmtModify":1632471161104,"author":{"id":"3586774084857382","authorId":"3586774084857382","name":"rencegoh","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adebfc919f5130c5c32d6e9d08d48392","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3586774084857382","authorIdStr":"3586774084857382"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"many dumb analysts","listText":"many dumb analysts","text":"many dumb analysts","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/812502914","repostId":"1131318558","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1131318558","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1630591645,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1131318558?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-02 22:07","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Bear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1131318558","media":"Thestreet","summary":"One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock  finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still sees shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall ","content":"<p>One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?</p><p><blockquote>对苹果股票给予卖出评级的两位华尔街分析师之一认输了。另一位仍然认为AAPL股价可能会下跌40%。巨大的下行风险现实吗？</blockquote></p><p> On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock&nbsp;(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still&nbsp;sees&nbsp;shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.</p><p><blockquote>九月的第一天，华尔街罕见的看空苹果股票之一（<b>AAPL</b>）最终让步，下调了卖出评级。剩下的最后一位仍将股价跌至90美元的目标价，损失风险约为40%。</blockquote></p><p> Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.</p><p><blockquote>New Street的Pierre Ferragu是华尔街最后一位看空苹果的人，他对看涨期权下行的看法可能是正确的吗？这位苹果专家更仔细地观察了这场争论。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why bearish on Apple?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么看空苹果？</b></blockquote></p><p> The core of Pierre’s bearish argument&nbsp;seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.</p><p><blockquote>Pierre看空论点的核心似乎是iPhone。这位分析师将即将推出的设备称为“12S周期”，认为苹果iPhone升级浪潮中最好的部分，即所谓的5G超级周期，已经成为过去。</blockquote></p><p> New Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the&nbsp;opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:</p><p><blockquote>New Street赞同这样的观点，即强劲的iPhone 12周期拉动了智能手机销量，导致未来需求出现缺口。有趣的是，这与看涨的Wedbush分析师Dan Ives的观点完全相反，Dan Ives在接受《苹果专家》采访时表示：</blockquote></p><p>   “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”  Still on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.</p><p><blockquote>“华尔街低估了这个超级周期的规模和长度。[……]在网络建成之前，5G在未来两三年内不会被完全接受。在中国（5G基础设施更加领先），iPhone 12，尤其是较大的Pro版本，确实卖得非常好。”Ferragu先生仍然在iPhone上，早在4月份就提出了他对2022年的预期（我不知道此后有任何修改）。他认为iPhone出货量将达到1.9亿部，这意味着该部门的收入约为1500亿美元——比COVID-19水平每年小幅增长5%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Could AAPL sink 40%?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>AAPL会下跌40%吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> Now, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).</p><p><blockquote>现在，让我们动笔。苹果股票的估值要达到每股90美元，需要发生两件事之一：要么财务业绩需要落后于普遍预期，要么估值需要收缩（或两者兼而有之）。</blockquote></p><p> On results,Wall Street currently sees&nbsp;fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.</p><p><blockquote>从业绩来看，华尔街目前预计2022财年每股收益将达到5.63美元，与迄今为止令人印象深刻的2021财年基本持平。因此，苹果公司要想股价下跌40%，明年的盈利就需要大幅低于市场预期，至少下降几美元。我觉得这不太可能。</blockquote></p><p> On valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.</p><p><blockquote>从估值来看，AAPL目前的2021财年市盈率为27倍。假设未来的结果与共识匹配，这一市盈率需要降至16倍左右，AAPL股价才能跌至90美元。该股的预期市盈率多年来从未如此低。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> I find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. It is much more reasonable, in my opinion, that New Street’s current price target on the stock is simply stale, following AAPL’s 25% rally in the past six months.</p><p><blockquote>我发现苹果的估值即使不是几乎不可能，也不太可能再次达到每股90美元。在我看来，更合理的是，在AAPL在过去六个月内上涨了25%之后，New Street目前的股价目标已经过时了。</blockquote></p><p> Therefore, I would not be surprised to see Wall Street’s last AAPL bear eventually (soon?) give in on his downside convictions, at least in what pertains to his current price target.</p><p><blockquote>因此，看到华尔街最后一次看空苹果公司最终（很快？）屈服于他的下行信念，至少在与他当前的价格目标相关的方面，我不会感到惊讶。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Bear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nBear Attack: Could Apple Stock Really Drop 40%?<blockquote>空头攻击：苹果股价真的会下跌40%吗？</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">Thestreet</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-09-02 22:07</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?</p><p><blockquote>对苹果股票给予卖出评级的两位华尔街分析师之一认输了。另一位仍然认为AAPL股价可能会下跌40%。巨大的下行风险现实吗？</blockquote></p><p> On the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock&nbsp;(<b>AAPL</b>)&nbsp;finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still&nbsp;sees&nbsp;shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.</p><p><blockquote>九月的第一天，华尔街罕见的看空苹果股票之一（<b>AAPL</b>）最终让步，下调了卖出评级。剩下的最后一位仍将股价跌至90美元的目标价，损失风险约为40%。</blockquote></p><p> Could New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.</p><p><blockquote>New Street的Pierre Ferragu是华尔街最后一位看空苹果的人，他对看涨期权下行的看法可能是正确的吗？这位苹果专家更仔细地观察了这场争论。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Why bearish on Apple?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>为什么看空苹果？</b></blockquote></p><p> The core of Pierre’s bearish argument&nbsp;seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.</p><p><blockquote>Pierre看空论点的核心似乎是iPhone。这位分析师将即将推出的设备称为“12S周期”，认为苹果iPhone升级浪潮中最好的部分，即所谓的5G超级周期，已经成为过去。</blockquote></p><p> New Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the&nbsp;opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:</p><p><blockquote>New Street赞同这样的观点，即强劲的iPhone 12周期拉动了智能手机销量，导致未来需求出现缺口。有趣的是，这与看涨的Wedbush分析师Dan Ives的观点完全相反，Dan Ives在接受《苹果专家》采访时表示：</blockquote></p><p>   “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”  Still on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.</p><p><blockquote>“华尔街低估了这个超级周期的规模和长度。[……]在网络建成之前，5G在未来两三年内不会被完全接受。在中国（5G基础设施更加领先），iPhone 12，尤其是较大的Pro版本，确实卖得非常好。”Ferragu先生仍然在iPhone上，早在4月份就提出了他对2022年的预期（我不知道此后有任何修改）。他认为iPhone出货量将达到1.9亿部，这意味着该部门的收入约为1500亿美元——比COVID-19水平每年小幅增长5%。</blockquote></p><p> <b>Could AAPL sink 40%?</b></p><p><blockquote><b>AAPL会下跌40%吗？</b></blockquote></p><p> Now, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).</p><p><blockquote>现在，让我们动笔。苹果股票的估值要达到每股90美元，需要发生两件事之一：要么财务业绩需要落后于普遍预期，要么估值需要收缩（或两者兼而有之）。</blockquote></p><p> On results,Wall Street currently sees&nbsp;fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.</p><p><blockquote>从业绩来看，华尔街目前预计2022财年每股收益将达到5.63美元，与迄今为止令人印象深刻的2021财年基本持平。因此，苹果公司要想股价下跌40%，明年的盈利就需要大幅低于市场预期，至少下降几美元。我觉得这不太可能。</blockquote></p><p> On valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.</p><p><blockquote>从估值来看，AAPL目前的2021财年市盈率为27倍。假设未来的结果与共识匹配，这一市盈率需要降至16倍左右，AAPL股价才能跌至90美元。该股的预期市盈率多年来从未如此低。</blockquote></p><p> <b>The Apple Maven’s take</b></p><p><blockquote><b>苹果专家的看法</b></blockquote></p><p> I find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. It is much more reasonable, in my opinion, that New Street’s current price target on the stock is simply stale, following AAPL’s 25% rally in the past six months.</p><p><blockquote>我发现苹果的估值即使不是几乎不可能，也不太可能再次达到每股90美元。在我看来，更合理的是，在AAPL在过去六个月内上涨了25%之后，New Street目前的股价目标已经过时了。</blockquote></p><p> Therefore, I would not be surprised to see Wall Street’s last AAPL bear eventually (soon?) give in on his downside convictions, at least in what pertains to his current price target.</p><p><blockquote>因此，看到华尔街最后一次看空苹果公司最终（很快？）屈服于他的下行信念，至少在与他当前的价格目标相关的方面，我不会感到惊讶。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/bear-attack-could-apple-stock-really-drop-40\">Thestreet</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/apple/stock/bear-attack-could-apple-stock-really-drop-40","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1131318558","content_text":"One of two Wall Street analysts that had a sell rating on Apple stock threw in the towel. The other still thinks that AAPL shares could drop 40%. Is the sizable downside risk realistic?\nOn the first day of September, one of the rare Wall Street bears on Apple stock (AAPL) finally gave in and dropped his sell rating. The last remaining one still sees shares dropping to a price target of $90, representing risk of loss of around 40%.\nCould New Street’s Pierre Ferragu, the last remaining Apple bear on Wall Street, be right about his downside call? The Apple Maven looks a bit closer at the argument.\nWhy bearish on Apple?\nThe core of Pierre’s bearish argument seems to be the iPhone. The analyst has called the upcoming device launch a “12S cycle”, arguing that the best of Apple’s iPhone upgrade wave,the so-called 5G super cycle, has been left in the rearview mirror.\nNew Street subscribes to the view that the strong iPhone 12 cycle has pulled forward smartphone sales, leaving a gap in demand going forward. Interestingly, this is exactly the opposite opinion of bullish Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who said the following during an interview with the Apple Maven:\n\n “What the Street underestimates is how massive and elongated this super cycle is. […] 5G does not get fully embraced for the next two or three years, until the networks are built out. In China [where the 5G infrastructure is further ahead], the iPhone 12, especially the larger Pro versions, really sold extremely well.”\n\nStill on the iPhone, Mr. Ferragu laid out his expectations for 2022 back in April (I am unaware of revisions since then). He believes that iPhone shipments will reach 190 million units, suggesting segment revenues of around $150 billion – a modest annual increase of 5% from COVID-19 levels.\nCould AAPL sink 40%?\nNow, let’s put pen to paper. For Apple stock to be valued at $90 apiece, one of two things would need to happen: either financial performance would need to lag consensus expectations, or valuations would need to contract (or a combination of both).\nOn results,Wall Street currently sees fiscal 2022 EPS landing at $5.63, roughly flat against a 2021 that has been impressive so far. For AAPL to drop 40% in price, therefore, next-year earnings would need to miss consensus substantially, by at least a couple of dollars. I find this highly unlikely.\nOn valuations, AAPL currently trades at a fiscal 2021 earnings multiple of 27 times. Assuming consensus-matching results in the future, this multiple would need to drop to about 16 times for AAPL shares to sink to $90. The stock’s forward P/E has not been this low in years.\nThe Apple Maven’s take\nI find it very improbable, if not virtually impossible, for Apple to ever be valued at $90 per share again. It is much more reasonable, in my opinion, that New Street’s current price target on the stock is simply stale, following AAPL’s 25% rally in the past six months.\nTherefore, I would not be surprised to see Wall Street’s last AAPL bear eventually (soon?) give in on his downside convictions, at least in what pertains to his current price target.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AAPL":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":429,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":837636592,"gmtCreate":1629881559216,"gmtModify":1633681740052,"author":{"id":"3586774084857382","authorId":"3586774084857382","name":"rencegoh","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adebfc919f5130c5c32d6e9d08d48392","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3586774084857382","authorIdStr":"3586774084857382"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"amcx and amc are two different entities. remove this post man.&nbsp;","listText":"amcx and amc are two different entities. remove this post man.&nbsp;","text":"amcx and amc are two different entities. remove this post man.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/837636592","repostId":"1195050896","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1195050896","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1629862027,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1195050896?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-25 11:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"AMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan Steps Down After 26-Year Run<blockquote>AMC Networks首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)在任职26年后辞职</blockquote>","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1195050896","media":"WSJ","summary":"AMC Networks Inc.Chief Executive Josh Sapan is stepping down, the company said Tuesday, capping a 26","content":"<p>AMC Networks&nbsp;Inc.Chief Executive Josh Sapan is stepping down, the company said Tuesday, capping a 26-year run during which he shepherded hits including “Mad Men” and “The Walking Dead” and masterminded the company’s foray into video streaming.</p><p><blockquote>AMC网络公司。该公司周二表示，首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)将辞职，结束了他26年的任期，在此期间，他执导了《广告狂人》(Mad Men)和《行尸走肉》(The Walking Dead)等热门影片，并策划了该公司进军视频流媒体领域。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan, 70, will be replaced in the interim by Matthew Blank, the former chairman of Showtime Networks and a senior adviser at the Raine Group, a merchant bank. The company said it would conduct a search for a permanent replacement for Mr. Sapan.</p><p><blockquote>70岁的萨潘在此期间将由Showtime Networks前董事长、商业银行Raine Group高级顾问马修·布兰克(Matthew Blank)接替。该公司表示，将寻找萨潘的永久替代者。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan will become executive vice chairman of AMC Networks, advising the company on its video-streaming efforts.</p><p><blockquote>Sapan先生将成为AMC Networks的执行副主席，为该公司的视频流媒体工作提供建议。</blockquote></p><p> He helped transform AMC Networks from a sleepy network known for airing classic movies into a TV tastemaker that took risks on critically acclaimed shows. On his watch, the company greenlighted “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad” and “The Walking Dead,” which helped define the rise of prestige television.</p><p><blockquote>他帮助AMC Networks从一个以播放经典电影而闻名的沉睡网络转变为一个在广受好评的节目中冒险的电视时尚引领者。在他的领导下，该公司批准了《广告狂人》、《绝命毒师》和《行尸走肉》，这有助于定义声望电视的崛起。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan is stepping aside from AMC during a period of upheaval for the media industry. The rise of video-streaming services such asNetflixInc.and&nbsp;Amazon.comInc.’s&nbsp;Prime Video has pressured the traditional TV business, which for decades relied on ever-increasing growth in advertising and subscription revenue.</p><p><blockquote>萨潘先生将在媒体行业动荡时期辞去AMC职务。NetflixInc.和亚马逊。comInc.的Prime Video等视频流媒体服务的兴起给传统电视业务带来了压力，几十年来，传统电视业务一直依赖不断增长的广告和订阅收入。</blockquote></p><p> He has launched niche streaming services to feature AMC’s programming. Rather than offering a broad array of TV shows and movies, AMC is focusing on narrower audiences with targeted services such as Shudder for horror movie fans and Acorn TV for programming from the U.K.</p><p><blockquote>他推出了利基流媒体服务来播放AMC的节目。AMC没有提供广泛的电视节目和电影，而是专注于更狭窄的受众，提供有针对性的服务，如恐怖电影迷的颤栗和英国节目的Acorn TV。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks shares fell slightly Tuesday morning. The stock has risen by more than one-third for the year. AMC Networks is unrelated to the&nbsp;AMC Entertainment HoldingsInc.theater chain.</p><p><blockquote>AMC Networks股价周二上午小幅下跌。该股今年以来上涨了三分之一以上。AMC Networks与AMC院线控股连锁影院无关。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks is controlled by James Dolan and his family, which also owns&nbsp;Madison Square Garden Entertainment.For years, AMC Networks has been viewed as a possible takeover target given its size compared with its competitors, but a deal hasn’t materialized.</p><p><blockquote>AMC Networks由詹姆斯·多兰及其家族控制，该家族还拥有麦迪逊广场花园娱乐公司。多年来，鉴于AMC Networks与竞争对手相比的规模，其一直被视为可能的收购目标，但交易尚未实现。</blockquote></p><p> The company said it expects to have 9 million subscribers to its streaming services by the end of 2021. By comparison, Netflix has 209 million subscribers andAT&amp;TInc.’s&nbsp;Warner&nbsp;Media has 67.5 million subscribers world-wide across its HBO Max streaming service and the HBO cable channel.</p><p><blockquote>该公司表示，预计到2021年底，其流媒体服务将拥有900万订户。相比之下，Netflix拥有2.09亿订阅者，AT&amp;TInc.旗下的华纳媒体通过其HBO Max流媒体服务和HBO有线频道在全球拥有6750万订阅者。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks has grown its earnings despite the headwinds facing the traditional media sector. The company said profits rose 11.2% to $250.6 million in the second quarter from a year earlier.</p><p><blockquote>尽管传统媒体行业面临阻力，AMC Networks的盈利仍有所增长。该公司表示，第二季度利润同比增长11.2%至2.506亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> In July, the company said it agreed to pay $200 million to settle a legal battle with “Walking Dead” creator Frank Darabont over profits from the show.</p><p><blockquote>今年7月，该公司表示同意支付2亿美元来解决与《行尸走肉》创作者弗兰克·达拉邦特(Frank Darabont)就该剧利润展开的法律诉讼。</blockquote></p><p></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>AMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan Steps Down After 26-Year Run<blockquote>AMC Networks首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)在任职26年后辞职</blockquote></title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAMC Networks CEO Josh Sapan Steps Down After 26-Year Run<blockquote>AMC Networks首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)在任职26年后辞职</blockquote>\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">WSJ</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-08-25 11:27</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>AMC Networks&nbsp;Inc.Chief Executive Josh Sapan is stepping down, the company said Tuesday, capping a 26-year run during which he shepherded hits including “Mad Men” and “The Walking Dead” and masterminded the company’s foray into video streaming.</p><p><blockquote>AMC网络公司。该公司周二表示，首席执行官乔什·萨潘(Josh Sapan)将辞职，结束了他26年的任期，在此期间，他执导了《广告狂人》(Mad Men)和《行尸走肉》(The Walking Dead)等热门影片，并策划了该公司进军视频流媒体领域。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan, 70, will be replaced in the interim by Matthew Blank, the former chairman of Showtime Networks and a senior adviser at the Raine Group, a merchant bank. The company said it would conduct a search for a permanent replacement for Mr. Sapan.</p><p><blockquote>70岁的萨潘在此期间将由Showtime Networks前董事长、商业银行Raine Group高级顾问马修·布兰克(Matthew Blank)接替。该公司表示，将寻找萨潘的永久替代者。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan will become executive vice chairman of AMC Networks, advising the company on its video-streaming efforts.</p><p><blockquote>Sapan先生将成为AMC Networks的执行副主席，为该公司的视频流媒体工作提供建议。</blockquote></p><p> He helped transform AMC Networks from a sleepy network known for airing classic movies into a TV tastemaker that took risks on critically acclaimed shows. On his watch, the company greenlighted “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad” and “The Walking Dead,” which helped define the rise of prestige television.</p><p><blockquote>他帮助AMC Networks从一个以播放经典电影而闻名的沉睡网络转变为一个在广受好评的节目中冒险的电视时尚引领者。在他的领导下，该公司批准了《广告狂人》、《绝命毒师》和《行尸走肉》，这有助于定义声望电视的崛起。</blockquote></p><p> Mr. Sapan is stepping aside from AMC during a period of upheaval for the media industry. The rise of video-streaming services such asNetflixInc.and&nbsp;Amazon.comInc.’s&nbsp;Prime Video has pressured the traditional TV business, which for decades relied on ever-increasing growth in advertising and subscription revenue.</p><p><blockquote>萨潘先生将在媒体行业动荡时期辞去AMC职务。NetflixInc.和亚马逊。comInc.的Prime Video等视频流媒体服务的兴起给传统电视业务带来了压力，几十年来，传统电视业务一直依赖不断增长的广告和订阅收入。</blockquote></p><p> He has launched niche streaming services to feature AMC’s programming. Rather than offering a broad array of TV shows and movies, AMC is focusing on narrower audiences with targeted services such as Shudder for horror movie fans and Acorn TV for programming from the U.K.</p><p><blockquote>他推出了利基流媒体服务来播放AMC的节目。AMC没有提供广泛的电视节目和电影，而是专注于更狭窄的受众，提供有针对性的服务，如恐怖电影迷的颤栗和英国节目的Acorn TV。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks shares fell slightly Tuesday morning. The stock has risen by more than one-third for the year. AMC Networks is unrelated to the&nbsp;AMC Entertainment HoldingsInc.theater chain.</p><p><blockquote>AMC Networks股价周二上午小幅下跌。该股今年以来上涨了三分之一以上。AMC Networks与AMC院线控股连锁影院无关。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks is controlled by James Dolan and his family, which also owns&nbsp;Madison Square Garden Entertainment.For years, AMC Networks has been viewed as a possible takeover target given its size compared with its competitors, but a deal hasn’t materialized.</p><p><blockquote>AMC Networks由詹姆斯·多兰及其家族控制，该家族还拥有麦迪逊广场花园娱乐公司。多年来，鉴于AMC Networks与竞争对手相比的规模，其一直被视为可能的收购目标，但交易尚未实现。</blockquote></p><p> The company said it expects to have 9 million subscribers to its streaming services by the end of 2021. By comparison, Netflix has 209 million subscribers andAT&amp;TInc.’s&nbsp;Warner&nbsp;Media has 67.5 million subscribers world-wide across its HBO Max streaming service and the HBO cable channel.</p><p><blockquote>该公司表示，预计到2021年底，其流媒体服务将拥有900万订户。相比之下，Netflix拥有2.09亿订阅者，AT&amp;TInc.旗下的华纳媒体通过其HBO Max流媒体服务和HBO有线频道在全球拥有6750万订阅者。</blockquote></p><p> AMC Networks has grown its earnings despite the headwinds facing the traditional media sector. The company said profits rose 11.2% to $250.6 million in the second quarter from a year earlier.</p><p><blockquote>尽管传统媒体行业面临阻力，AMC Networks的盈利仍有所增长。该公司表示，第二季度利润同比增长11.2%至2.506亿美元。</blockquote></p><p> In July, the company said it agreed to pay $200 million to settle a legal battle with “Walking Dead” creator Frank Darabont over profits from the show.</p><p><blockquote>今年7月，该公司表示同意支付2亿美元来解决与《行尸走肉》创作者弗兰克·达拉邦特(Frank Darabont)就该剧利润展开的法律诉讼。</blockquote></p><p></p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> 来源：<a href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amc-networks-ceo-josh-sapan-steps-down-after-26-year-run-11629813291?mod=business_lead_pos3\">WSJ</a></p>\n<p>为提升您的阅读体验，我们对本页面进行了排版优化</p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMCX":"AMC网络公司"},"source_url":"https://www.wsj.com/articles/amc-networks-ceo-josh-sapan-steps-down-after-26-year-run-11629813291?mod=business_lead_pos3","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1195050896","content_text":"AMC Networks Inc.Chief Executive Josh Sapan is stepping down, the company said Tuesday, capping a 26-year run during which he shepherded hits including “Mad Men” and “The Walking Dead” and masterminded the company’s foray into video streaming.\nMr. Sapan, 70, will be replaced in the interim by Matthew Blank, the former chairman of Showtime Networks and a senior adviser at the Raine Group, a merchant bank. The company said it would conduct a search for a permanent replacement for Mr. Sapan.\nMr. Sapan will become executive vice chairman of AMC Networks, advising the company on its video-streaming efforts.\nHe helped transform AMC Networks from a sleepy network known for airing classic movies into a TV tastemaker that took risks on critically acclaimed shows. On his watch, the company greenlighted “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad” and “The Walking Dead,” which helped define the rise of prestige television.\nMr. Sapan is stepping aside from AMC during a period of upheaval for the media industry. The rise of video-streaming services such asNetflixInc.and Amazon.comInc.’s Prime Video has pressured the traditional TV business, which for decades relied on ever-increasing growth in advertising and subscription revenue.\nHe has launched niche streaming services to feature AMC’s programming. Rather than offering a broad array of TV shows and movies, AMC is focusing on narrower audiences with targeted services such as Shudder for horror movie fans and Acorn TV for programming from the U.K.\nAMC Networks shares fell slightly Tuesday morning. The stock has risen by more than one-third for the year. AMC Networks is unrelated to the AMC Entertainment HoldingsInc.theater chain.\nAMC Networks is controlled by James Dolan and his family, which also owns Madison Square Garden Entertainment.For years, AMC Networks has been viewed as a possible takeover target given its size compared with its competitors, but a deal hasn’t materialized.\nThe company said it expects to have 9 million subscribers to its streaming services by the end of 2021. By comparison, Netflix has 209 million subscribers andAT&TInc.’s Warner Media has 67.5 million subscribers world-wide across its HBO Max streaming service and the HBO cable channel.\nAMC Networks has grown its earnings despite the headwinds facing the traditional media sector. The company said profits rose 11.2% to $250.6 million in the second quarter from a year earlier.\nIn July, the company said it agreed to pay $200 million to settle a legal battle with “Walking Dead” creator Frank Darabont over profits from the show.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AMCX":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":336,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":862145154,"gmtCreate":1632851798983,"gmtModify":1632851798983,"author":{"id":"3586774084857382","authorId":"3586774084857382","name":"rencegoh","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/adebfc919f5130c5c32d6e9d08d48392","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3586774084857382","authorIdStr":"3586774084857382"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CEI\">$Camber Energy(CEI)$</a>hdl let’s aim bigger $3.50 today.","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CEI\">$Camber Energy(CEI)$</a>hdl let’s aim bigger $3.50 today.","text":"$Camber Energy(CEI)$hdl let’s aim bigger $3.50 today.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/862145154","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":726,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}