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火火兔爸
11-17 23:04
$礼来(LLY)$
明年二月美联储将下场购债
火火兔爸
11-17 22:46
$礼来(LLY)$
诺和诺德已经掉入礼来的低价陷阱,其主产品的降价陷入礼来预设的价格陷阱,将使诺和诺德总利润大幅衰减,无力继续与礼来的研发管线竞争,等口服减肥药铺天盖地上市时注定了诺和诺德的衰落。
火火兔爸
11-17 22:23
标题党,那叫低于?
诺和诺德:为自费患者提供的减肥药定价低于礼来
火火兔爸
11-17 22:12
我用的都好好的
火火兔爸
11-17 22:10
$礼来(LLY)$
礼来的王炸是口服减肥药,诺和诺德现有产品降价不改礼来预期
火火兔爸
11-17 12:05
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
$礼来(LLY)$
$英伟达(NVDA)$
对于科技巨头持续的借贷投资ai基础设施,在AI收益没有产生足够盈利的情况下,利息支出会削弱现有利润,同时大量已投入的算力中心等固定资产开始产生大量折旧费用进一步侵吞了现有利润。在科技巨头们没有找到更好的AI变现方式前,对科技大公司业绩预期和估值维持谨慎态度是合适的。
AI热潮的另一面:从SaaS轻资产转向AI重资产 美国巨头们的财务挑战刚刚开始
火火兔爸
11-16 19:07
$礼来(LLY)$
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
$英伟达(NVDA)$
2025年11月段永平管理的H&H International Investment基金公布的持仓显示,其已近乎清仓英伟达,减持后英伟达持仓占比已不到1%。这一操作颇为出人意料,因为他近期还多次肯定英伟达的实力,且今年以来对英伟达的投资动作十分频繁。 就在11月11日的访谈中,段永平还称赞英伟达“确实很厉害,生态确实很强”,提到市场虽渴望出现替代者打破其垄断以降低成本,但始终难以实现。而今年他对英伟达的投资动作更是密集:3月首次买入英伟达股票,4月初美股暴跌时,他还拿出约1.5亿美元参与英伟达的认沽期权交易,一季度其掌管的基金更是新进65万股英伟达股票,期末持股市值达6992万美元[__LINK_ICON]。 此次他清仓英伟达的同时,持仓组合还有其他调整,比如少量减持了苹果和拼多多,还大量增持了伯克
火火兔爸
11-15
什么鬼标题
认定AI泡沫,“大空头”Michael Burry果断清算Scion基金
火火兔爸
11-15
看好的股持有都是以年为单位,获利颇丰,目前是礼来,等待openai业绩稳定后是pltr
火火兔爸
11-15
看好的股持有都是以年为单位,获利颇丰
火火兔爸
11-14
$礼来(LLY)$
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
今晚美国发一千多亿美债是资金最紧张的时候,下周会逐步缓解。但是受情绪面影响,资金不会回流科技。
火火兔爸
11-14
$礼来(LLY)$
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
美联储将在12月1日起不再抛售国债(QT, Quantitative Tightening),也不让现金从系统中流出
火火兔爸
11-14
$礼来(LLY)$
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
市场继续押注十二月不降息。
火火兔爸
11-13
$礼来(LLY)$
看不清楚趋势卖出礼来的都是苦命的娃
火火兔爸
11-13
$礼来(LLY)$
礼来替尔泊肽注射液新适应症在华申报获受理 11月13日,CDE官网显示,礼来(LLY.N)的葡萄糖依赖性促胰岛素多肽(GIP)和胰高血糖素样肽-1(GLP-1)受体双重激动剂替尔泊肽注射液新适应症上市申请已获得受理。这是该药品在华第三项适应症获批后又一次申报。
火火兔爸
11-13
$礼来(LLY)$
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
再次全部移仓礼来,十二月降息概率下降,利空科技
火火兔爸
11-12
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
尾盘被强平的杠杆资金不少啊
火火兔爸
11-11
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
火火兔爸
11-10
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
pltr赚到的牌牌收到了还挺重,要是金的就好了。[开心]
火火兔爸
11-09
$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$
领先的AI系统和企业操作系统提供商Palantir Technologies Inc.(纳斯达克股票代码:PLTR)与西班牙领先的环境服务公司Valoriza今日宣布建立合作伙伴关系。Valoriza的先进废物管理和城市服务运营将由Palantir的AIP软件提供支持。 Valoriza在城市环境管理领域处于领先地位,为西班牙各地的市政当局提供创新的废物收集和解决方案。该公司因其对可持续发展和卓越运营的承诺而备受认可,并利用尖端技术改善数百万居民的城市空间体验。
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的关键优势在于其基于“本体”的软件架构。本体是一个构建于数据集和模型之上的框架,它定义了数字信息与工厂、设备和耗材等实体资产之间的关系。本体不仅允许用户查询数据以改进决策,还能创建一个反馈循环,随着时间的推移产生更深入的洞察。</p><p>Palantir 公布了令人印象深刻的第一季度财务业绩。得益于政府部门强劲的销售增长,公司营收增长 39%,达到 8.84 亿美元,这是公司连续第七年实现增长。非公认会计准则美股净利润增长 62%,达到每股 0.13 美元。管理层还上调了全年业绩指引,预计 2025 年营收将增长 36%。</p><p>Palantir 完全有能力保持这一势头。Forrester Research 将该公司评为人工智能和机器学习平台领域的技术领导者,预计该市场将以每年 40% 的速度增长,到 2028 年将达到 1530 亿美元。晨星分析师 Mike Giarelli 今年早些时候写道:“这家公司可能成为下一个软件巨头。”</p><p>然而,投资者不应忽视估值。估值目前对市场可能并不重要,但最终总会起到决定性作用。Palantir 目前的市盈率为调整后收益的 265 倍。对于一家预计 2025 年收益将增长 41% 的公司来说,这个估值看起来非常昂贵。然而,Palantir 已连续六个季度超出市场普遍预期,平均高出 10%。</p><p><strong>Palantir 是历史上最昂贵的软件股票之一</strong></p><p>我刚才提到,对于一家预计今年盈利增长 41% 的公司来说,Palantir 的市盈率 (P/E) 非常高。话虽如此,有人可能会认为,由于华尔街经常低估 Palantir,其盈利增长速度可能远超预期。所以,让我们从另一个角度来思考估值。</p><p>Palantir 的市销率 (P/S) 在 2 月份突破了 100 倍,并在 5 月份再次达到这一水平。我回顾了过去 20 年 50 多只软件股的估值:在此期间,只有另外 6 只股票的市销率超过 100 倍,而且它们最终都下跌了至少 70%,如下所述:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Bill Holdings 在 2021 年 9 月 8 日的市销率为 103 倍。该股最终下跌了 87%。</p></li><li><p>Cloudflare 在 2021 年 11 月 18 日的市销率为 114 倍。该股最终下跌了 83%。</p></li><li><p>SentinelOne 在 2021 年 9 月 16 日的市销率为 106 倍。该股最终下跌了 82%。</p></li><li><p>Snowflake 在 2020 年 12 月 8 日的市销率为 184 倍。该股最终下跌了 72%。</p></li><li><p>2024年12月26日,SoundHound AI的市销率为111倍。该股最终下跌了70%。</p></li><li><p>2020年10月19日,Zoom Communications的市销率为124倍。该股最终下跌了90%。</p></li></ul><p>如上所示,过去二十年中,除Palantir外,只有六只软件股的市盈率达到100倍,达到该估值后,其股价从峰值到谷底的平均跌幅为81%。我们可以将这个数字套用到Palantir身上,对未来可能发生的事情做出合理的预测。</p><p>具体来说,Palantir在2月18日收盘价为每股124.62美元,当天其市盈率达到了107倍的峰值。如果其表现与历史平均水平持平,最终将下跌81%,至每股23.67美元。这意味着其股价从目前的123美元下跌幅度大致相同。</p><p>当然,过往表现并不能保证未来的业绩,Palantir也有可能成为例外。但我认为投资者应该避免以当前价格买入该股。其风险回报状况严重偏向风险。</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" 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18:35</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p><em>作者:Trevor Jennewine</em></p><p><em>来源:The Motley Fool</em></p><p><strong>摘要</strong></p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir 股价今年迄今已上涨 63%,领涨纳斯达克 100 指数。</p></li><li><p>Forrester Research 将 Palantir 评为人工智能平台领域的领导者。</p></li><li><p>Palantir 股价今年两次突破销售额 100 倍,很少有软件公司能达到这样的估值。</p></li></ul><p>5月14日,Palantir涨至至每股133.49美元的历史高点。此后,该股小幅回落,但截至5月27日,其年初至今的回报率高达63%,仍领跑纳斯达克100指数。Palantir能否在2025年剩余的几个月里保持这一势头?</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/da861aca043563e01bdbf9139515aac2\" tg-width=\"560\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><p><strong>Palantir利用人工智能帮助客户优化决策</strong></p><p>Palantir为商业和政府部门的客户开发数据分析软件。其主要平台(Gotham和Foundry)允许用户整合信息、训练机器学习模型和查询数据。其配套的人工智能平台(AIP)是一个大型语言模型编排工具,可让客户将生成式人工智能融入到运营中。</p><p>Palantir 的关键优势在于其基于“本体”的软件架构。本体是一个构建于数据集和模型之上的框架,它定义了数字信息与工厂、设备和耗材等实体资产之间的关系。本体不仅允许用户查询数据以改进决策,还能创建一个反馈循环,随着时间的推移产生更深入的洞察。</p><p>Palantir 公布了令人印象深刻的第一季度财务业绩。得益于政府部门强劲的销售增长,公司营收增长 39%,达到 8.84 亿美元,这是公司连续第七年实现增长。非公认会计准则美股净利润增长 62%,达到每股 0.13 美元。管理层还上调了全年业绩指引,预计 2025 年营收将增长 36%。</p><p>Palantir 完全有能力保持这一势头。Forrester Research 将该公司评为人工智能和机器学习平台领域的技术领导者,预计该市场将以每年 40% 的速度增长,到 2028 年将达到 1530 亿美元。晨星分析师 Mike Giarelli 今年早些时候写道:“这家公司可能成为下一个软件巨头。”</p><p>然而,投资者不应忽视估值。估值目前对市场可能并不重要,但最终总会起到决定性作用。Palantir 目前的市盈率为调整后收益的 265 倍。对于一家预计 2025 年收益将增长 41% 的公司来说,这个估值看起来非常昂贵。然而,Palantir 已连续六个季度超出市场普遍预期,平均高出 10%。</p><p><strong>Palantir 是历史上最昂贵的软件股票之一</strong></p><p>我刚才提到,对于一家预计今年盈利增长 41% 的公司来说,Palantir 的市盈率 (P/E) 非常高。话虽如此,有人可能会认为,由于华尔街经常低估 Palantir,其盈利增长速度可能远超预期。所以,让我们从另一个角度来思考估值。</p><p>Palantir 的市销率 (P/S) 在 2 月份突破了 100 倍,并在 5 月份再次达到这一水平。我回顾了过去 20 年 50 多只软件股的估值:在此期间,只有另外 6 只股票的市销率超过 100 倍,而且它们最终都下跌了至少 70%,如下所述:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Bill Holdings 在 2021 年 9 月 8 日的市销率为 103 倍。该股最终下跌了 87%。</p></li><li><p>Cloudflare 在 2021 年 11 月 18 日的市销率为 114 倍。该股最终下跌了 83%。</p></li><li><p>SentinelOne 在 2021 年 9 月 16 日的市销率为 106 倍。该股最终下跌了 82%。</p></li><li><p>Snowflake 在 2020 年 12 月 8 日的市销率为 184 倍。该股最终下跌了 72%。</p></li><li><p>2024年12月26日,SoundHound AI的市销率为111倍。该股最终下跌了70%。</p></li><li><p>2020年10月19日,Zoom Communications的市销率为124倍。该股最终下跌了90%。</p></li></ul><p>如上所示,过去二十年中,除Palantir外,只有六只软件股的市盈率达到100倍,达到该估值后,其股价从峰值到谷底的平均跌幅为81%。我们可以将这个数字套用到Palantir身上,对未来可能发生的事情做出合理的预测。</p><p>具体来说,Palantir在2月18日收盘价为每股124.62美元,当天其市盈率达到了107倍的峰值。如果其表现与历史平均水平持平,最终将下跌81%,至每股23.67美元。这意味着其股价从目前的123美元下跌幅度大致相同。</p><p>当然,过往表现并不能保证未来的业绩,Palantir也有可能成为例外。但我认为投资者应该避免以当前价格买入该股。其风险回报状况严重偏向风险。</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d544e6f7498c68812d1a765bff723fc2","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1168896343","content_text":"作者:Trevor Jennewine来源:The Motley Fool摘要Palantir 股价今年迄今已上涨 63%,领涨纳斯达克 100 指数。Forrester Research 将 Palantir 评为人工智能平台领域的领导者。Palantir 股价今年两次突破销售额 100 倍,很少有软件公司能达到这样的估值。5月14日,Palantir涨至至每股133.49美元的历史高点。此后,该股小幅回落,但截至5月27日,其年初至今的回报率高达63%,仍领跑纳斯达克100指数。Palantir能否在2025年剩余的几个月里保持这一势头?Palantir利用人工智能帮助客户优化决策Palantir为商业和政府部门的客户开发数据分析软件。其主要平台(Gotham和Foundry)允许用户整合信息、训练机器学习模型和查询数据。其配套的人工智能平台(AIP)是一个大型语言模型编排工具,可让客户将生成式人工智能融入到运营中。Palantir 的关键优势在于其基于“本体”的软件架构。本体是一个构建于数据集和模型之上的框架,它定义了数字信息与工厂、设备和耗材等实体资产之间的关系。本体不仅允许用户查询数据以改进决策,还能创建一个反馈循环,随着时间的推移产生更深入的洞察。Palantir 公布了令人印象深刻的第一季度财务业绩。得益于政府部门强劲的销售增长,公司营收增长 39%,达到 8.84 亿美元,这是公司连续第七年实现增长。非公认会计准则美股净利润增长 62%,达到每股 0.13 美元。管理层还上调了全年业绩指引,预计 2025 年营收将增长 36%。Palantir 完全有能力保持这一势头。Forrester Research 将该公司评为人工智能和机器学习平台领域的技术领导者,预计该市场将以每年 40% 的速度增长,到 2028 年将达到 1530 亿美元。晨星分析师 Mike Giarelli 今年早些时候写道:“这家公司可能成为下一个软件巨头。”然而,投资者不应忽视估值。估值目前对市场可能并不重要,但最终总会起到决定性作用。Palantir 目前的市盈率为调整后收益的 265 倍。对于一家预计 2025 年收益将增长 41% 的公司来说,这个估值看起来非常昂贵。然而,Palantir 已连续六个季度超出市场普遍预期,平均高出 10%。Palantir 是历史上最昂贵的软件股票之一我刚才提到,对于一家预计今年盈利增长 41% 的公司来说,Palantir 的市盈率 (P/E) 非常高。话虽如此,有人可能会认为,由于华尔街经常低估 Palantir,其盈利增长速度可能远超预期。所以,让我们从另一个角度来思考估值。Palantir 的市销率 (P/S) 在 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芯片支出增长的估计,发现仅这四家公司就足以让英伟达实现本季度的指导目标。同时,他们预计其他大型科技公司和人工智能初创企业对英伟达的需求也更乐观。伯恩斯坦分析师表示,目前限制英伟达营收的因素是半导体代工厂先进的芯片封装能力。随着明年封装能力的提升,英伟达将有可能在2024年创造750亿至900亿美元的数据中心和AI芯片收入,而华尔街分析师的一致预期仅为420亿美元。不过,随着人工智能基础设施建设过多,可能带来的短期和中期风险,比如对英伟达芯片需求先旺后衰,伯恩斯坦技术分析师团队淡化了这一风险。他们将英伟达股票评级调至“跑赢大盘”,目股价为475美元。目前,英伟达股价为467美元左右。伯恩斯坦团队表示,在未来相当长的一段时间内,至少在未来12-18个月内,预计英伟达的业绩将保持增长,并可能将持续走高。这一分析结果显示了对英伟达未来发展的乐观态度。此前,瑞穗分析师Vijay 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