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Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li>\n <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li>\n <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p>\n<p><b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p>\n<p>Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p>\n<p><b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p>\n<p>Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p>\n<p>Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p>\n<p><b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p>\n<p>In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p>\n<p>In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p>\n<p>With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p>\n<p>The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p>\n<p><b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p>\n<p>Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p>\n<p>This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p>\n<p><b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p>\n<p>Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p>\n<p>Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-12-21 11:26 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. 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The company provides a video-first customer feedback platform for enterprises, providing richer, more contextualized insights by capturing various human signals. Its customers include a diverse base of more than 2,100 enterprises, with strong net dollar-based retention. However, it remains unprofitable due to high S&M spend.\nAustralia’s Iris Energy(IREN), a Bitcoin mining company primarily powered by renewable energy, plans to raise $215 million at a $1.4 billion market cap. Iris acquired its first site in British Columbia in January 2021, which has approximately 30 MW of capacity and operating hashrate capacity of 0.7EH/s. The company is dependent on the Bitcoin market, and while prices have risen near all-time highs, it remains highly volatile.\nGermany-based Sono Group(SEV) plans to raise $150 million at a $1.1 billion market cap. The company is developing what it believes is disruptive solar technology, as well as a solar and battery powered vehicle. 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The top 20 are dominated by lesser-known names in health care, technology and financials. Energy, the only sector to finish higher in September, made a small appearance.</p>\n<p>Here are the biggest third-quarter winners in the S&P 500:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd6449e408f045d2210f515fa5677ab3\" tg-width=\"1048\" tg-height=\"1564\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MRNA\">Moderna, Inc.</a> generated the highest return in the S&P for the third quarter, about 60%, as Covid-19 vaccines continued being rolled out to more people and talk of a Covid booster shot evolved. The vaccine maker’s stock popped after it announced it would test a combined Covid and flu vaccine.</p>\n<p>Also, Moderna is higher by a whopping 268% for the year.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PAYC\">Paycom Software, Inc.</a> is only up about 8% for the year. Still, the payroll services company generated the second-largest returns for the quarter, about 36%, as people began reentering the workforce. Government stimulus targeted at mid-market and small businesses helped the firm as well, according to Oppenheimer’s Brian Schwartz.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MPWR\">Monolithic Power Systems</a> a high-performance analog semiconductor company, was up 29% for the quarter and about 32% for the year.</p>\n<p>Quanta Services, a contracting services company, gained about 25% for the quarter. Stifel recently said the stock saw an impact from both lower oil prices and Covid-related shelter in place orders and that it anticipates some recovery in the market in the second half of the year.</p>\n<p>Oil prices dipped in the middle of the quarter but have been rallying since. While many of the top performers for the third quarter had a down month in September or eked out small gains, Quanta is up more than 11% for the month.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Here is Top 20 S&P 500 winners in the third-quarter</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nHere is Top 20 S&P 500 winners in the third-quarter\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-10-03 22:15</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>The S&P 500 suffered worst month In September, but it still eked out a 0.2% gain for the third quarter.</p>\n<p>Lots of stocks’ gains for the year were offset by the September slump.But there are some stocks helped keep the market afloat .</p>\n<p>CNBC ranked the top performers in S&P 500 index for the third quarter using data from FactSet. The top 20 are dominated by lesser-known names in health care, technology and financials. Energy, the only sector to finish higher in September, made a small appearance.</p>\n<p>Here are the biggest third-quarter winners in the S&P 500:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dd6449e408f045d2210f515fa5677ab3\" tg-width=\"1048\" tg-height=\"1564\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MRNA\">Moderna, Inc.</a> generated the highest return in the S&P for the third quarter, about 60%, as Covid-19 vaccines continued being rolled out to more people and talk of a Covid booster shot evolved. The vaccine maker’s stock popped after it announced it would test a combined Covid and flu vaccine.</p>\n<p>Also, Moderna is higher by a whopping 268% for the year.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PAYC\">Paycom Software, Inc.</a> is only up about 8% for the year. Still, the payroll services company generated the second-largest returns for the quarter, about 36%, as people began reentering the workforce. Government stimulus targeted at mid-market and small businesses helped the firm as well, according to Oppenheimer’s Brian Schwartz.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MPWR\">Monolithic Power Systems</a> a high-performance analog semiconductor company, was up 29% for the quarter and about 32% for the year.</p>\n<p>Quanta Services, a contracting services company, gained about 25% for the quarter. Stifel recently said the stock saw an impact from both lower oil prices and Covid-related shelter in place orders and that it anticipates some recovery in the market in the second half of the year.</p>\n<p>Oil prices dipped in the middle of the quarter but have been rallying since. While many of the top performers for the third quarter had a down month in September or eked out small gains, Quanta is up more than 11% for the month.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MPWR":"Monolithic Power Systems","PWR":"广达公司","MRNA":"Moderna, Inc.","PAYC":"Paycom Software, Inc."},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1181558340","content_text":"The S&P 500 suffered worst month In September, but it still eked out a 0.2% gain for the third quarter.\nLots of stocks’ gains for the year were offset by the September slump.But there are some stocks helped keep the market afloat .\nCNBC ranked the top performers in S&P 500 index for the third quarter using data from FactSet. The top 20 are dominated by lesser-known names in health care, technology and financials. Energy, the only sector to finish higher in September, made a small appearance.\nHere are the biggest third-quarter winners in the S&P 500:Moderna, Inc. generated the highest return in the S&P for the third quarter, about 60%, as Covid-19 vaccines continued being rolled out to more people and talk of a Covid booster shot evolved. The vaccine maker’s stock popped after it announced it would test a combined Covid and flu vaccine.\nAlso, Moderna is higher by a whopping 268% for the year.\nPaycom Software, Inc. is only up about 8% for the year. Still, the payroll services company generated the second-largest returns for the quarter, about 36%, as people began reentering the workforce. Government stimulus targeted at mid-market and small businesses helped the firm as well, according to Oppenheimer’s Brian Schwartz.\nMonolithic Power Systems a high-performance analog semiconductor company, was up 29% for the quarter and about 32% for the year.\nQuanta Services, a contracting services company, gained about 25% for the quarter. Stifel recently said the stock saw an impact from both lower oil prices and Covid-related shelter in place orders and that it anticipates some recovery in the market in the second half of the year.\nOil prices dipped in the middle of the quarter but have been rallying since. While many of the top performers for the third quarter had a down month in September or eked out small gains, Quanta is up more than 11% for the month.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":192,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":879145134,"gmtCreate":1636695604516,"gmtModify":1636695622030,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/879145134","repostId":"1137718483","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1137718483","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1636677707,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1137718483?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-12 08:41","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Wait for a Crash to Buy? These 3 Top Stocks Are Already Down More Than 40%","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1137718483","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"$Alibaba$ Group has plummeted 49% since peaking 13 months ago.Alibaba's Singles' Day isn't what it used to be now given China's \"common prosperity\" initiative.Alibaba and two other U.S. former market darlings have a strong chance to bounce back from here.Alibaba enters Singles' Day trading 49% below the all-time high it hit late last year. Investors have steered clear of China's growth stocks in the wake of the government's crackdown on several industries, but the real bargain for Singles' Day c","content":"<p>Key Points</p>\n<ul>\n <li><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba</a> Group has plummeted 49% since peaking 13 months ago.</li>\n <li>Alibaba's Singles' Day isn't what it used to be now given China's \"common prosperity\" initiative.</li>\n <li>Alibaba and two other U.S. former market darlings have a strong chance to bounce back from here.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>The market's getting volatile, but it's still trading close to its recent all-time highs. Are you waiting for the market to take a big hit before putting your money on the sidelines to work? Well, a lot of last year's biggest stars have already crashed.</p>\n<p>Shares of<b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/09988\">Alibaba</a> Group Holding</b>(NYSE:BABA),<b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZM\">Zoom</a> Video</b>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PINS\"><b>Pinterest</b></a> have all plummeted at least 40% since hitting all-time highs. The markdowns seem overdone. Let's take a closer look.</p>\n<p>1. Alibaba</p>\n<p>Thursday should've been a big day for China's online retailers. It's Singles' Day! Alibaba created the shopping holiday that takes place every year on Nov. 11 -- called Singles' Day because of the 11/11 date -- but it has since been widely adopted by smaller e-tailers.</p>\n<p>Singles' Day is hitting different this year. China's government push for \"common prosperity\" finds it unfashionable to tout commerce and consumption. Alibaba is highly unlikely to match the $74 billion it rang up in sales during last year's \"Double 11\" celebration.</p>\n<p>Alibaba enters Singles' Day trading 49% below the all-time high it hit late last year. Investors have steered clear of China's growth stocks in the wake of the government's crackdown on several industries, but the real bargain for Singles' Day could be shares of Alibaba itself. It has grown revenue by at least 32% every year over the past decade. Even now as Alibaba grapples with the COVID-19 crisis and the country's common prosperity objectives, trailing revenue has climbed 40%.</p>\n<p>2. <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZM\">Zoom</a> Video</p>\n<p>The rise and fall of Zoom Video is well known. The videoconferencing platform skyrocketed in popularity during the early months of the pandemic when in-person classes, work meetings, and gatherings of friends and family weren't safe. Now that we're largely vaccinated and case counts are lower is there really a future for Zoom?</p>\n<p>The market seems to think that the future will be bleak. Like Alibaba, shares of Zoom peaked 13 months ago. Zoom stock has plummeted 57% since that high. The twist here is that Zoom is still growing. Revenue rose 54% inits latest quarter. Sure, revenue is decelerating. We're not going to return to the triple-digit top-line growth that Zoom posted in each of the five previous quarterly reports.</p>\n<p>However, Zoom is still growing in the recovery climate. Video meetings will continue to be a cost-effective way to gather and get things done. Zoom is fleshing out its offerings, and a recently fumbled acquisition attempt won't stop the evolutionary process. There was a crazy time last year when Zoom was trading for more than 100 times trailing revenue. The one-two punch of heady sales growth and the cascading stock price finds that multiple whittled down to just 20 right now.</p>\n<p>3. Pinterest</p>\n<p>A year ago we were leaning on Pinterest to get crafty. The visual discovery engine was a valuable resource for recipes, decorating tips, and daydreaming about destinations we wanted to visit once we were able to safely travel after the pandemic.</p>\n<p>Everything was going swimmingly for Pinterest until we were cool to toss out our sourdough starter and head outside to eat someone else's bread. Pinterest has now stunned investors with back-to-back sequential declines in active users. The stock has plummeted 49% from February's peak.</p>\n<p>Last month <b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PYPL\">PayPal</a> Holdings</b> was reportedly negotiating to buy Pinterest in a largely stock deal that would value Pinterest at$70 a share. Pinterest investors who were cocky about holding out for more would love a chance to get back there, as the stock has fallen sharply since the proposed combination came undone. Pinterest would have to appreciate by 53% to get to $70 now.</p>\n<p>PayPal stock sold off on the initial chatter, but it continues to fall even now that a deal is not on the table. It probably won't come back on bended knee now that both stocks are out of favor, but Pinterest still has a vibrant platform with improving monetization. Revenue is still growing as advertisers flock its marketing opportunities to reach the lucrative Pinterest audience.</p>\n<p>Alibaba, Zoom, and Pinterest are still thrivinggrowth stocks. The shares just happen to be trading between 49% and 57% off their all-time highs. You don't need to wait for the market crash to happen to pick up bargains. They're out there now.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Wait for a Crash to Buy? 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These 3 Top Stocks Are Already Down More Than 40%\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-12 08:41 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/11/why-wait-for-a-crash-to-buy-these-3-top-stocks-are/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Key Points\n\nAlibaba Group has plummeted 49% since peaking 13 months ago.\nAlibaba's Singles' Day isn't what it used to be now given China's \"common prosperity\" initiative.\nAlibaba and two other U.S. ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/11/why-wait-for-a-crash-to-buy-these-3-top-stocks-are/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","PINS":"Pinterest, Inc.","ZM":"Zoom"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/11/11/why-wait-for-a-crash-to-buy-these-3-top-stocks-are/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1137718483","content_text":"Key Points\n\nAlibaba Group has plummeted 49% since peaking 13 months ago.\nAlibaba's Singles' Day isn't what it used to be now given China's \"common prosperity\" initiative.\nAlibaba and two other U.S. former market darlings have a strong chance to bounce back from here.\n\nThe market's getting volatile, but it's still trading close to its recent all-time highs. Are you waiting for the market to take a big hit before putting your money on the sidelines to work? Well, a lot of last year's biggest stars have already crashed.\nShares ofAlibaba Group Holding(NYSE:BABA),Zoom Video, and Pinterest have all plummeted at least 40% since hitting all-time highs. The markdowns seem overdone. Let's take a closer look.\n1. Alibaba\nThursday should've been a big day for China's online retailers. It's Singles' Day! Alibaba created the shopping holiday that takes place every year on Nov. 11 -- called Singles' Day because of the 11/11 date -- but it has since been widely adopted by smaller e-tailers.\nSingles' Day is hitting different this year. China's government push for \"common prosperity\" finds it unfashionable to tout commerce and consumption. Alibaba is highly unlikely to match the $74 billion it rang up in sales during last year's \"Double 11\" celebration.\nAlibaba enters Singles' Day trading 49% below the all-time high it hit late last year. Investors have steered clear of China's growth stocks in the wake of the government's crackdown on several industries, but the real bargain for Singles' Day could be shares of Alibaba itself. It has grown revenue by at least 32% every year over the past decade. Even now as Alibaba grapples with the COVID-19 crisis and the country's common prosperity objectives, trailing revenue has climbed 40%.\n2. Zoom Video\nThe rise and fall of Zoom Video is well known. The videoconferencing platform skyrocketed in popularity during the early months of the pandemic when in-person classes, work meetings, and gatherings of friends and family weren't safe. Now that we're largely vaccinated and case counts are lower is there really a future for Zoom?\nThe market seems to think that the future will be bleak. Like Alibaba, shares of Zoom peaked 13 months ago. Zoom stock has plummeted 57% since that high. The twist here is that Zoom is still growing. Revenue rose 54% inits latest quarter. Sure, revenue is decelerating. We're not going to return to the triple-digit top-line growth that Zoom posted in each of the five previous quarterly reports.\nHowever, Zoom is still growing in the recovery climate. Video meetings will continue to be a cost-effective way to gather and get things done. Zoom is fleshing out its offerings, and a recently fumbled acquisition attempt won't stop the evolutionary process. There was a crazy time last year when Zoom was trading for more than 100 times trailing revenue. The one-two punch of heady sales growth and the cascading stock price finds that multiple whittled down to just 20 right now.\n3. Pinterest\nA year ago we were leaning on Pinterest to get crafty. The visual discovery engine was a valuable resource for recipes, decorating tips, and daydreaming about destinations we wanted to visit once we were able to safely travel after the pandemic.\nEverything was going swimmingly for Pinterest until we were cool to toss out our sourdough starter and head outside to eat someone else's bread. Pinterest has now stunned investors with back-to-back sequential declines in active users. The stock has plummeted 49% from February's peak.\nLast month PayPal Holdings was reportedly negotiating to buy Pinterest in a largely stock deal that would value Pinterest at$70 a share. Pinterest investors who were cocky about holding out for more would love a chance to get back there, as the stock has fallen sharply since the proposed combination came undone. Pinterest would have to appreciate by 53% to get to $70 now.\nPayPal stock sold off on the initial chatter, but it continues to fall even now that a deal is not on the table. It probably won't come back on bended knee now that both stocks are out of favor, but Pinterest still has a vibrant platform with improving monetization. Revenue is still growing as advertisers flock its marketing opportunities to reach the lucrative Pinterest audience.\nAlibaba, Zoom, and Pinterest are still thrivinggrowth stocks. The shares just happen to be trading between 49% and 57% off their all-time highs. You don't need to wait for the market crash to happen to pick up bargains. 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Investors have been anxiously awaiting the start of the latest earnings season and bracing for a deceleration in corporate profit growth after a strong second quarter.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67cc1643f346c667ff972e41da6bbe71\" tg-width=\"1878\" tg-height=\"2940\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>The pace of S&P 500 year-over-year earnings and sales growth reached eye-popping levels for the second quarter due to the easy comparisons with Covid-ravaged 2020 and robust economic growth. The expectations going into this reporting season are more modest, with earnings slated to grow at almost 28% year-over-year.</p>\n<p>If history is any guide, the actual performance should still exceed these elevated levels despite a moderation in economic activity. While it will be necessary for earnings to beat expectations, forward guidance will be essential with the current worries about the economic outlook and cost pressures.</p>\n<p><b>There are 20 S&P 500 companies scheduled to report earnings this week, but the primary focus will be on the financials and the banks in particular. </b>According to FactSet, the financials should be around the middle of the pack in earnings growth rates, with consensus year-over-year growth estimates of 17%.</p>\n<p>There are a handful of other companies like Delta Air Lines (DAL), Domino’s Pizza (DPZ), Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company(TSM)on the calendar. </p>\n<p><b>This season, the impact of higher costs and the ability to pass on higher prices to protect profit margins will be closely scrutinized across all companies.</b> Labor costs will be a headwind for companies, with average hourly earnings rising at a 4.6% year-over-year rate in September. Offsetting higher labor costs is that companies have only re-hired 78% of the jobs lost during the Covid-lockdown. Higher commodity costs will also negatively impact most company’s profitability. The increase in commodity prices goes beyond oil, but as an example, the sharp rise in oil prices negatively impacts the costs for many non-energy companies. The energy sector had a loss in the third quarter of 2020, but the expected 53% increase in sales tells the story of the oil price rebound.</p>\n<p><b>Supply chain disruptions remain a significant issue for this earnings season.</b> These disruptions both increased costs for most companies and resulted in lost sales for companies unable to secure the goods demanded by consumers. Increased shipping costs are almost certain to be a familiar refrain by the end of this reporting season. In the end, robust demand and increased productivity should overcome all these challenges and allow the actual third-quarter results to exceed expectations.</p>\n<p><b>Aside from earnings, Congress has reached a deal to raise the debt limit enough to kick the can down the road until December 3 at least.</b> Recall that previously, Congress was able to pass a short-term budget resolution to avoid a government shutdown until this date. This temporary measure should allow enough time for the Democrats, who control all three branches of the federal government, to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling via reconciliation. With the debt ceiling crisis averted until December, Congress will now return to focusing on negotiating the hefty tax and spending bills.</p>\n<p><b>Earnings calendar</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li><b>Monday:</b> No notable reports scheduled for release</li>\n <li><b>Tuesday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FAST\">Fastenal</a> before market open</li>\n <li><b>Wednesday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JPM\">JPMorgan Chase</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BLK\">BlackRock</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FRC\">First Republic Bank</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DAL\">Delta Air Lines</a> before market open</li>\n <li><b>Thursday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BAC\">Bank of America</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DPZ\">Domino's Pizza</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WBA\">Walgreens Boots Alliance</a> , The Progressive Corp. (PGR), UnitedHealth Group (UNH), US Bancorp (USB), <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WFC\">Wells Fargo</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MS\">Morgan Stanley</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/C\">Citigroup</a> before market open; <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AA\">Alcoa</a> after market close</li>\n <li><b>Friday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PNC\">PNC Financial Services Group Inc</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TFC\">Truist Financial Corp</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/COIN\">Coinbase Global, Inc.</a>, The <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SCHW\">Charles Schwab</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GS\">Goldman Sachs</a> before market open</li>\n</ul>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>What To Watch As Third-Quarter Earnings Season Begins?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhat To Watch As Third-Quarter Earnings Season Begins?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-10-11 10:46</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>(Oct 11) The Third-quarter earnings season ramps up in earnest this week with a packed schedule of major financial companies poised to report results. Investors have been anxiously awaiting the start of the latest earnings season and bracing for a deceleration in corporate profit growth after a strong second quarter.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/67cc1643f346c667ff972e41da6bbe71\" tg-width=\"1878\" tg-height=\"2940\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>The pace of S&P 500 year-over-year earnings and sales growth reached eye-popping levels for the second quarter due to the easy comparisons with Covid-ravaged 2020 and robust economic growth. The expectations going into this reporting season are more modest, with earnings slated to grow at almost 28% year-over-year.</p>\n<p>If history is any guide, the actual performance should still exceed these elevated levels despite a moderation in economic activity. While it will be necessary for earnings to beat expectations, forward guidance will be essential with the current worries about the economic outlook and cost pressures.</p>\n<p><b>There are 20 S&P 500 companies scheduled to report earnings this week, but the primary focus will be on the financials and the banks in particular. </b>According to FactSet, the financials should be around the middle of the pack in earnings growth rates, with consensus year-over-year growth estimates of 17%.</p>\n<p>There are a handful of other companies like Delta Air Lines (DAL), Domino’s Pizza (DPZ), Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company(TSM)on the calendar. </p>\n<p><b>This season, the impact of higher costs and the ability to pass on higher prices to protect profit margins will be closely scrutinized across all companies.</b> Labor costs will be a headwind for companies, with average hourly earnings rising at a 4.6% year-over-year rate in September. Offsetting higher labor costs is that companies have only re-hired 78% of the jobs lost during the Covid-lockdown. Higher commodity costs will also negatively impact most company’s profitability. The increase in commodity prices goes beyond oil, but as an example, the sharp rise in oil prices negatively impacts the costs for many non-energy companies. The energy sector had a loss in the third quarter of 2020, but the expected 53% increase in sales tells the story of the oil price rebound.</p>\n<p><b>Supply chain disruptions remain a significant issue for this earnings season.</b> These disruptions both increased costs for most companies and resulted in lost sales for companies unable to secure the goods demanded by consumers. Increased shipping costs are almost certain to be a familiar refrain by the end of this reporting season. In the end, robust demand and increased productivity should overcome all these challenges and allow the actual third-quarter results to exceed expectations.</p>\n<p><b>Aside from earnings, Congress has reached a deal to raise the debt limit enough to kick the can down the road until December 3 at least.</b> Recall that previously, Congress was able to pass a short-term budget resolution to avoid a government shutdown until this date. This temporary measure should allow enough time for the Democrats, who control all three branches of the federal government, to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling via reconciliation. With the debt ceiling crisis averted until December, Congress will now return to focusing on negotiating the hefty tax and spending bills.</p>\n<p><b>Earnings calendar</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li><b>Monday:</b> No notable reports scheduled for release</li>\n <li><b>Tuesday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FAST\">Fastenal</a> before market open</li>\n <li><b>Wednesday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/JPM\">JPMorgan Chase</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BLK\">BlackRock</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FRC\">First Republic Bank</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DAL\">Delta Air Lines</a> before market open</li>\n <li><b>Thursday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BAC\">Bank of America</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DPZ\">Domino's Pizza</a> , <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WBA\">Walgreens Boots Alliance</a> , The Progressive Corp. (PGR), UnitedHealth Group (UNH), US Bancorp (USB), <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WFC\">Wells Fargo</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MS\">Morgan Stanley</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/C\">Citigroup</a> before market open; <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AA\">Alcoa</a> after market close</li>\n <li><b>Friday:</b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PNC\">PNC Financial Services Group Inc</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TFC\">Truist Financial Corp</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/COIN\">Coinbase Global, Inc.</a>, The <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SCHW\">Charles Schwab</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GS\">Goldman Sachs</a> before market open</li>\n</ul>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","SPY":"标普500ETF",".DJI":"道琼斯",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1189049020","content_text":"(Oct 11) The Third-quarter earnings season ramps up in earnest this week with a packed schedule of major financial companies poised to report results. Investors have been anxiously awaiting the start of the latest earnings season and bracing for a deceleration in corporate profit growth after a strong second quarter.\n\nThe pace of S&P 500 year-over-year earnings and sales growth reached eye-popping levels for the second quarter due to the easy comparisons with Covid-ravaged 2020 and robust economic growth. The expectations going into this reporting season are more modest, with earnings slated to grow at almost 28% year-over-year.\nIf history is any guide, the actual performance should still exceed these elevated levels despite a moderation in economic activity. While it will be necessary for earnings to beat expectations, forward guidance will be essential with the current worries about the economic outlook and cost pressures.\nThere are 20 S&P 500 companies scheduled to report earnings this week, but the primary focus will be on the financials and the banks in particular. According to FactSet, the financials should be around the middle of the pack in earnings growth rates, with consensus year-over-year growth estimates of 17%.\nThere are a handful of other companies like Delta Air Lines (DAL), Domino’s Pizza (DPZ), Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company(TSM)on the calendar. \nThis season, the impact of higher costs and the ability to pass on higher prices to protect profit margins will be closely scrutinized across all companies. Labor costs will be a headwind for companies, with average hourly earnings rising at a 4.6% year-over-year rate in September. Offsetting higher labor costs is that companies have only re-hired 78% of the jobs lost during the Covid-lockdown. Higher commodity costs will also negatively impact most company’s profitability. The increase in commodity prices goes beyond oil, but as an example, the sharp rise in oil prices negatively impacts the costs for many non-energy companies. The energy sector had a loss in the third quarter of 2020, but the expected 53% increase in sales tells the story of the oil price rebound.\nSupply chain disruptions remain a significant issue for this earnings season. These disruptions both increased costs for most companies and resulted in lost sales for companies unable to secure the goods demanded by consumers. Increased shipping costs are almost certain to be a familiar refrain by the end of this reporting season. In the end, robust demand and increased productivity should overcome all these challenges and allow the actual third-quarter results to exceed expectations.\nAside from earnings, Congress has reached a deal to raise the debt limit enough to kick the can down the road until December 3 at least. Recall that previously, Congress was able to pass a short-term budget resolution to avoid a government shutdown until this date. This temporary measure should allow enough time for the Democrats, who control all three branches of the federal government, to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling via reconciliation. With the debt ceiling crisis averted until December, Congress will now return to focusing on negotiating the hefty tax and spending bills.\nEarnings calendar\n\nMonday: No notable reports scheduled for release\nTuesday: Fastenal before market open\nWednesday: JPMorgan Chase, BlackRock, First Republic Bank , Delta Air Lines before market open\nThursday: Bank of America , Domino's Pizza , Walgreens Boots Alliance , The Progressive Corp. (PGR), UnitedHealth Group (UNH), US Bancorp (USB), Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup before market open; Alcoa after market close\nFriday: PNC Financial Services Group Inc, Truist Financial Corp, Coinbase Global, Inc., The Charles Schwab, Goldman Sachs before market open","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":496,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":698350433,"gmtCreate":1640308884742,"gmtModify":1640308888174,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/698350433","repostId":"2193078140","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1382,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":875606148,"gmtCreate":1637637985309,"gmtModify":1637637985399,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/875606148","repostId":"1144695405","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1144695405","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1637637065,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1144695405?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-23 11:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Rivian: 2021's Pets.com","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1144695405","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nRivian had a wildly successful IPO, after which it reached a $109 billion market cap.\nHowev","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Rivian had a wildly successful IPO, after which it reached a $109 billion market cap.</li>\n <li>However, the company has been hit by a string of bad reports, including Ford backing out of a partnership with it.</li>\n <li>Thanks to its high valuation, Rivian is beginning to look like Pets.com - the poster child for the 2000 dotcom crash.</li>\n <li>In this article, I will develop a bearish thesis on Rivian, arguing that its current price level is still excessive.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4d065787049af8b17ea35806fbb51971\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images News</span></p>\n<p><b>Rivian</b>(RIVN) shareholders got some bad news last week, when <b>Ford</b>(F) announced that it had scrapped its plans to launch a joint venture with the company. The news came shortly after a report claimed that Rivian’s electric vans built for <b>Amazon</b>(AMZN) had less range than advertised.</p>\n<p>Following the announcement, Ford kept its 12% ownership stake in RIVN. But its actions cast doubt on any future collaboration. From this point on, Ford will simply be a company that owns RIVN stock. There will be no profitable collaboration going forward.</p>\n<p>With last week’s news, Amazon and Ford -- Rivian’s two biggest investors -- dealt the company a double whammy. Even before the Ford news dropped, investors were already selling Rivian. After a post-IPO rally, RIVN fell by 25%, going from $172 to $128.60. Reports that the company had no revenue may have contributed to the selloff, which hit a couple days after it was listed.</p>\n<p>In many ways, Rivian has become the poster child of what some are calling a “new tech bubble.” With NASDAQ stocks reaching new highs seemingly daily, we’re beginning to see price action reminiscent of early 2000, when the NASDAQ reached a 175 P/E ratio. When that bubble finally burst, tech stocks fell 80%. It took the NASDAQ 15 years to recover.</p>\n<p>The most notorious of all the 2000-era bubble stocks was Pets.com. Like Rivian, it attracted investment from large tech players like Amazon. IPET’s 1998 IPO raised $82.5 million, its stock debuting at $11. At the height of its power, it had a balloon fly in the Macy’s Day Parade. But thanks to an unprofitable business model, the company lost money at a rapid pace. It eventually went bankrupt and, by late 2000, was trading for $0.06 per share.</p>\n<p>While the NASDAQ is nowhere near 2000 levels of overvaluation, some individual stocks are getting there. We can find semi stocks,social media stocks, and even blue chip SaaS stocks above 20 times sales. EVs are the most inflated of them all, with even the most mature player in the space sporting a 23.5 price/sales ratio. There are some pricey names in this market, and some don’t even have sales -- let alone earnings!</p>\n<p>Rivian is a perfect case-in-point. Much like Pets.com, it has a lot of market cap but no profit. The company claimed in its prospectus that it had 48,390 pre-orders and had collected $1,000 on each one. If that’s the case then it brought in has $48.3 million in cash from those orders. The company won’t be able to recognize any of this as revenue until the vehicles are delivered. If we take the $48.3 million in cash as a kind of “sale” then Rivian has an astonishing 2,270 price/sales ratio. That’s mighty high, but these aren’t considered “sales” under U.S. GAAP. Instead, they represent a liability until the vehicles start being delivered. That is, until the revenue is “earned.”</p>\n<p>Put simply: Rivian has a stratospheric valuation, even if we’re being generous with it. Like Pets.com before it, it trades at a valuation not based on real world performance. Hype, comparisons to <b>Telsa</b>(TSLA) and general optimism toward EVs have driven the price -- not fundamentals. All the telltale signs of a bubble are there. Given this, it would be wise for investors to tread carefully with the stock, as it is beginning to look like the NASDAQ Bubble stocks that rose in the late 90s only to crash painfully in 2000.</p>\n<p><b>Pets.com: Anatomy of a Bubble</b></p>\n<p>It’s impossible to talk about the 2000 crash without mentioning Pets.com. The most infamous of the stocks that crashed in the dotcom bust, it was in many ways a microcosm of the NASDAQ in that period.</p>\n<p>Early on, things looked bright for Pets.com. Amazon bought a large stake in the company in its first venture funding around. Later, a consortium of investors injected $10.5 million. The company ran a $1.2 million super bowl ad. Eventually, it became a household name. In February 2000, it went public for $11 per share, raising $82.5 million.</p>\n<p>Things were going well.</p>\n<p>But people started asking hard questions about IPET’s business model. It had trouble generating positive gross margins mailing out large bags of dog food. It sold below cost, attempting to gain market share. It spent $400 to acquire each new customer. Finally, it faced stiff competition from a number of companies, all of them offering the same basic thing. In November 2000, it went bankrupt and was delisted.</p>\n<p>IPET’s final annual report contained the following metrics:</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>Cash: $4.6 million, down 52% from the prior year.</p></li>\n <li><p>Total assets: $4.7 million, down 62%</p></li>\n <li><p>Total liabilities: $4.18 million, down 56%.</p></li>\n <li><p>Cash raised in liquidation: $438,000.</p></li>\n <li><p>Cash spent in liquidation: $6.3 million.</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>No revenue or earnings were reported, because the company was not doing business by the time the report was released. Instead, it was a liquidation company, focused on paying off investors.</p>\n<p>It’s hard not to see the similarities to Rivian here. We’ve got the early investment by Amazon, the sensational IPO, the lack of profits, and the post-IPO selloff. One factor that’s missing in Rivian’s case is a truly broken business model. There doesn’t appear to be anything RIVN is doing that will make profits impossible. But the company has a long road to drive before it has any real value. In the meantime, investors are left reading vague tea leaves about pre-orders and van range.</p>\n<p><b>Competitive Landscape</b></p>\n<p>One way to approach Rivian’s value is to look at the marketplace it’s operating in. The electric vehicle industry is a competitive one with a clear market leader:</p>\n<p><i>Tesla.</i></p>\n<p>TSLA dominates the EV industry on both market cap and revenue, although its market cap dominance is much stronger than its sales lead. Other companies are catching up to Tesla on deliveries. One of those is <b>Volkswagen</b>(OTCPK:VWAGY). In the third quarter, it delivered 122,100 all-electric vehicles. According to Statista, it has a 12.5% market share in EVs globally -- right behind Tesla. It’s a steep drop-off after Volkswagen, though. And there’s more than a dozen players in the space.</p>\n<p>Rivian’s market share in EVs is impossible to calculate because we don’t know how many vehicles it will sell. If the 48,000 pre-orders plus the 100,000 cars ordered by Amazon eventually materialize, then that’s 148,000 future deliveries. However, these deliveries can’t be counted to a specific quarter or year. The Amazon vans are going to be delivered over four years and the pre-orders may fall through. So we can’t compare Rivian’s 148,000 in potential sales to Tesla’s 237,000 in Q3, or Volkswagen’s 122,000. The timeframes don’t line up.</p>\n<p>Nevertheless, we know that Rivian’s share is likely to be fairly small. If the Amazon deal runs to the end of 2024 then that’s 25,000 deliveries per year, or 6,250 per quarter. That’s assuming deliveries begin in 2021, which TechCrunch says is the case. The 48,000 pre-orders will presumably be delivered over the course of a single year, since most car buyers order the current year’s model. So let’s say 25,000 per year to Amazon and some year -- perhaps 2022 -- when 48,000 get sent out to customers within 12 months. That gets us to 73,000 in a year, or 24,333 per quarter. Nowhere near where Tesla and VW are. And we don’t even know whether the 48,000 pre-orders will come through!</p>\n<p><b>Valuation</b></p>\n<p>Another set of items we can look at to gauge Rivian’s value is its multiples. Broadly, it doesn’t have any. But we can come up with a kind of hypothetical price/sales ratio based on a future scenario.</p>\n<p>If you treat Rivian’s $1,000 pre-order deposits as “sales” then you get to about $48 million in sales. That would produce a price/sales ratio of 2,270, although these deposits aren’t considered revenue based on U.S. GAAP. We could also throw in some indeterminate amount there for the Amazon order, but there is no confirmation that has begun generating revenue.</p>\n<p>Perhaps a better multiple would be using future revenue. Rivian trucks start at $69,000. We know there are 48,000 consumer pre-orders, and 100,000 Amazon orders over four years (25,000 per year on average). That could give us a future year with 73,000 sales. If they average to $69,000 per vehicle, then we get to $5.037 billion in revenue. That, with Friday’s market cap of $109 billion, gives us a 22 forward price/sales ratio. That’s not completely insane, but keep in mind we have assumed here that:</p>\n<ul>\n <li><p>The 48,000 pre-orders will come through.</p></li>\n <li><p>They’ll all be delivered in 2022.</p></li>\n <li><p>Amazon won’t back out of its order even after the scandalous range report.</p></li>\n</ul>\n<p>That’s a lot of assumptions to make. Quite likely, at least one of the moving pieces in this puzzle won’t fit. So what we have got here is a “best case scenario” price/sales ratio where all of the sales Rivian has announced, actually close. And in 2022 no less! I’m attempting to be as charitable with my projection as possible, yet the multiple still ends up being very high.</p>\n<p><b>The Bottom Line</b></p>\n<p>The bottom line on Rivian is this:</p>\n<p>If any company in 2021 could be another Pets.com, Rivian is it.</p>\n<p>It has no GAAP-recognizable sales. Its IPO went bust after reaching an unbelievable valuation. It is surrounded by hype but has little to back it up.</p>\n<p>Put simply, it is a product of its time, a hyped up stock in an era where hype has become the norm.</p>\n<p>Does that mean that Rivian stock is guaranteed to go down? Hardly. Just like there are risks to RIVN longs, there are risks to its shorts as well. Continued social media hype, an unexpected jump in deliveries, or Amazon coming through with its order, are all scenarios that make RIVN a very risky play for shorts.</p>\n<p>But just like Pets.com before it, RIVN looks unlikely to live up to the promise of its IPO. 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Santiago/Getty Images News\nRivian(RIVN) shareholders got some bad news last week, when Ford(F) announced that it had scrapped its plans to launch a joint venture with the company. The news came shortly after a report claimed that Rivian’s electric vans built for Amazon(AMZN) had less range than advertised.\nFollowing the announcement, Ford kept its 12% ownership stake in RIVN. But its actions cast doubt on any future collaboration. From this point on, Ford will simply be a company that owns RIVN stock. There will be no profitable collaboration going forward.\nWith last week’s news, Amazon and Ford -- Rivian’s two biggest investors -- dealt the company a double whammy. Even before the Ford news dropped, investors were already selling Rivian. After a post-IPO rally, RIVN fell by 25%, going from $172 to $128.60. Reports that the company had no revenue may have contributed to the selloff, which hit a couple days after it was listed.\nIn many ways, Rivian has become the poster child of what some are calling a “new tech bubble.” With NASDAQ stocks reaching new highs seemingly daily, we’re beginning to see price action reminiscent of early 2000, when the NASDAQ reached a 175 P/E ratio. When that bubble finally burst, tech stocks fell 80%. It took the NASDAQ 15 years to recover.\nThe most notorious of all the 2000-era bubble stocks was Pets.com. Like Rivian, it attracted investment from large tech players like Amazon. IPET’s 1998 IPO raised $82.5 million, its stock debuting at $11. At the height of its power, it had a balloon fly in the Macy’s Day Parade. But thanks to an unprofitable business model, the company lost money at a rapid pace. It eventually went bankrupt and, by late 2000, was trading for $0.06 per share.\nWhile the NASDAQ is nowhere near 2000 levels of overvaluation, some individual stocks are getting there. We can find semi stocks,social media stocks, and even blue chip SaaS stocks above 20 times sales. EVs are the most inflated of them all, with even the most mature player in the space sporting a 23.5 price/sales ratio. There are some pricey names in this market, and some don’t even have sales -- let alone earnings!\nRivian is a perfect case-in-point. Much like Pets.com, it has a lot of market cap but no profit. The company claimed in its prospectus that it had 48,390 pre-orders and had collected $1,000 on each one. If that’s the case then it brought in has $48.3 million in cash from those orders. The company won’t be able to recognize any of this as revenue until the vehicles are delivered. If we take the $48.3 million in cash as a kind of “sale” then Rivian has an astonishing 2,270 price/sales ratio. That’s mighty high, but these aren’t considered “sales” under U.S. GAAP. Instead, they represent a liability until the vehicles start being delivered. That is, until the revenue is “earned.”\nPut simply: Rivian has a stratospheric valuation, even if we’re being generous with it. Like Pets.com before it, it trades at a valuation not based on real world performance. Hype, comparisons to Telsa(TSLA) and general optimism toward EVs have driven the price -- not fundamentals. All the telltale signs of a bubble are there. Given this, it would be wise for investors to tread carefully with the stock, as it is beginning to look like the NASDAQ Bubble stocks that rose in the late 90s only to crash painfully in 2000.\nPets.com: Anatomy of a Bubble\nIt’s impossible to talk about the 2000 crash without mentioning Pets.com. The most infamous of the stocks that crashed in the dotcom bust, it was in many ways a microcosm of the NASDAQ in that period.\nEarly on, things looked bright for Pets.com. Amazon bought a large stake in the company in its first venture funding around. Later, a consortium of investors injected $10.5 million. The company ran a $1.2 million super bowl ad. Eventually, it became a household name. In February 2000, it went public for $11 per share, raising $82.5 million.\nThings were going well.\nBut people started asking hard questions about IPET’s business model. It had trouble generating positive gross margins mailing out large bags of dog food. It sold below cost, attempting to gain market share. It spent $400 to acquire each new customer. Finally, it faced stiff competition from a number of companies, all of them offering the same basic thing. In November 2000, it went bankrupt and was delisted.\nIPET’s final annual report contained the following metrics:\n\nCash: $4.6 million, down 52% from the prior year.\nTotal assets: $4.7 million, down 62%\nTotal liabilities: $4.18 million, down 56%.\nCash raised in liquidation: $438,000.\nCash spent in liquidation: $6.3 million.\n\nNo revenue or earnings were reported, because the company was not doing business by the time the report was released. Instead, it was a liquidation company, focused on paying off investors.\nIt’s hard not to see the similarities to Rivian here. We’ve got the early investment by Amazon, the sensational IPO, the lack of profits, and the post-IPO selloff. One factor that’s missing in Rivian’s case is a truly broken business model. There doesn’t appear to be anything RIVN is doing that will make profits impossible. But the company has a long road to drive before it has any real value. In the meantime, investors are left reading vague tea leaves about pre-orders and van range.\nCompetitive Landscape\nOne way to approach Rivian’s value is to look at the marketplace it’s operating in. The electric vehicle industry is a competitive one with a clear market leader:\nTesla.\nTSLA dominates the EV industry on both market cap and revenue, although its market cap dominance is much stronger than its sales lead. Other companies are catching up to Tesla on deliveries. One of those is Volkswagen(OTCPK:VWAGY). In the third quarter, it delivered 122,100 all-electric vehicles. According to Statista, it has a 12.5% market share in EVs globally -- right behind Tesla. It’s a steep drop-off after Volkswagen, though. And there’s more than a dozen players in the space.\nRivian’s market share in EVs is impossible to calculate because we don’t know how many vehicles it will sell. If the 48,000 pre-orders plus the 100,000 cars ordered by Amazon eventually materialize, then that’s 148,000 future deliveries. However, these deliveries can’t be counted to a specific quarter or year. The Amazon vans are going to be delivered over four years and the pre-orders may fall through. So we can’t compare Rivian’s 148,000 in potential sales to Tesla’s 237,000 in Q3, or Volkswagen’s 122,000. The timeframes don’t line up.\nNevertheless, we know that Rivian’s share is likely to be fairly small. If the Amazon deal runs to the end of 2024 then that’s 25,000 deliveries per year, or 6,250 per quarter. That’s assuming deliveries begin in 2021, which TechCrunch says is the case. The 48,000 pre-orders will presumably be delivered over the course of a single year, since most car buyers order the current year’s model. So let’s say 25,000 per year to Amazon and some year -- perhaps 2022 -- when 48,000 get sent out to customers within 12 months. That gets us to 73,000 in a year, or 24,333 per quarter. Nowhere near where Tesla and VW are. And we don’t even know whether the 48,000 pre-orders will come through!\nValuation\nAnother set of items we can look at to gauge Rivian’s value is its multiples. Broadly, it doesn’t have any. But we can come up with a kind of hypothetical price/sales ratio based on a future scenario.\nIf you treat Rivian’s $1,000 pre-order deposits as “sales” then you get to about $48 million in sales. That would produce a price/sales ratio of 2,270, although these deposits aren’t considered revenue based on U.S. GAAP. We could also throw in some indeterminate amount there for the Amazon order, but there is no confirmation that has begun generating revenue.\nPerhaps a better multiple would be using future revenue. Rivian trucks start at $69,000. We know there are 48,000 consumer pre-orders, and 100,000 Amazon orders over four years (25,000 per year on average). That could give us a future year with 73,000 sales. If they average to $69,000 per vehicle, then we get to $5.037 billion in revenue. That, with Friday’s market cap of $109 billion, gives us a 22 forward price/sales ratio. That’s not completely insane, but keep in mind we have assumed here that:\n\nThe 48,000 pre-orders will come through.\nThey’ll all be delivered in 2022.\nAmazon won’t back out of its order even after the scandalous range report.\n\nThat’s a lot of assumptions to make. Quite likely, at least one of the moving pieces in this puzzle won’t fit. So what we have got here is a “best case scenario” price/sales ratio where all of the sales Rivian has announced, actually close. And in 2022 no less! I’m attempting to be as charitable with my projection as possible, yet the multiple still ends up being very high.\nThe Bottom Line\nThe bottom line on Rivian is this:\nIf any company in 2021 could be another Pets.com, Rivian is it.\nIt has no GAAP-recognizable sales. Its IPO went bust after reaching an unbelievable valuation. It is surrounded by hype but has little to back it up.\nPut simply, it is a product of its time, a hyped up stock in an era where hype has become the norm.\nDoes that mean that Rivian stock is guaranteed to go down? Hardly. Just like there are risks to RIVN longs, there are risks to its shorts as well. Continued social media hype, an unexpected jump in deliveries, or Amazon coming through with its order, are all scenarios that make RIVN a very risky play for shorts.\nBut just like Pets.com before it, RIVN looks unlikely to live up to the promise of its IPO. 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The company serves children from 6 weeks to 12 years of age through 1,480 early childhood education centers and 650 before- and after-school sites across 40 states and Washington DC. While KinderCare is a leader in the early childhood education market, its business been significantly disrupted by the pandemic.</p>\n<p><b>Braze</b>(BRZE) plans to raise $460 million at a $5.9 billion market cap. Founder-led Braze provides a customer engagement platform used by businesses to improve their marketing. Unprofitable with strong growth, Braze serves over 1,100 clients with net revenue retention of 120%+ as of 7/31/21.</p>\n<p>Fast casual salad chain <b>Sweetgreen</b>(SG) plans to raise $300 million at a $2.9 billion market cap. Sweetgreen owned and operated 140 restaurants in 13 states and Washington DC as of 9/26/21. The company has a strong digital presence and plans double its store count in the next three to five years, though it has yet to achieve profitability.</p>\n<p><b>UserTesting</b>(USER) plans to raise $227 million at a $2.6 billion market cap. The company provides a video-first customer feedback platform for enterprises, providing richer, more contextualized insights by capturing various human signals. Its customers include a diverse base of more than 2,100 enterprises, with strong net dollar-based retention. However, it remains unprofitable due to high S&M spend.</p>\n<p>Australia’s <b>Iris Energy</b>(IREN), a Bitcoin mining company primarily powered by renewable energy, plans to raise $215 million at a $1.4 billion market cap. Iris acquired its first site in British Columbia in January 2021, which has approximately 30 MW of capacity and operating hashrate capacity of 0.7EH/s. The company is dependent on the Bitcoin market, and while prices have risen near all-time highs, it remains highly volatile.</p>\n<p>Germany-based <b>Sono Group</b>(SEV) plans to raise $150 million at a $1.1 billion market cap. The company is developing what it believes is disruptive solar technology, as well as a solar and battery powered vehicle. Despite already accepting 16,000 pre-orders worth $390 million in net sales, it is not expected to reach commercialization until 2023, and will remain highly unprofitable for years.</p>\n<p>Canadian gold exploration company <b>Austin Gold</b>(AUST) plans to raise $15 million at a $64 million market cap. The company currently has interests in four gold exploration properties located in the state of Nevada, with just one property that it considers material at this time. Austin Gold has not generated any operating revenues to date.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c7e8c1cff28007ea86b0a909cd54cc1f\" tg-width=\"1129\" tg-height=\"683\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p><b>IPO Market Snapshot</b></p>\n<p>The Renaissance IPO Indices are market cap weighted baskets of newly public companies. As of 11/11/2021, the Renaissance IPO Index was up 3.6% year-to-date, while the S&P 500 was up 23.8%. Renaissance Capital's IPO ETF (NYSE: IPO) tracks the index, and top ETF holdings include Snowflake (SNOW) and Uber Technologies (UBER). The Renaissance International IPO Index was down 18.7% year-to-date, while the ACWX was up 8.7%. Renaissance Capital’s International IPO ETF (NYSE: IPOS) tracks the index, and top ETF holdings include Meituan-Dianping and SoftBank.</p>","source":"lsy1603787993745","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>US IPO Week Ahead: The IPO market settles down with 7 IPOs as the holiday week approaches</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nUS IPO Week Ahead: The IPO market settles down with 7 IPOs as the holiday week approaches\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-14 08:26 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/News/88589/US-IPO-Week-Ahead-The-IPO-market-settles-down-with-7-IPOs-as-the-holiday-we><strong>Renaissance Capital</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The IPO market is expected to pump the brakes ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday with seven IPOs scheduled to raise $1.9 billion in the week ahead.\nChildcare provider KinderCare Learning Companies(KLC)...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/News/88589/US-IPO-Week-Ahead-The-IPO-market-settles-down-with-7-IPOs-as-the-holiday-we\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".DJI":"道琼斯","BRZE":"Braze, Inc.",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","USER":"UserTesting, INC.","SG":"Sweetgreen, Inc.","KLC":"KinderCare Learning Companies, Inc. (Revived IPO)","AUST.AU":"BETASHARES MANAGED RISK AUST","IREN":"IREN Ltd",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index"},"source_url":"https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/News/88589/US-IPO-Week-Ahead-The-IPO-market-settles-down-with-7-IPOs-as-the-holiday-we","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1186112608","content_text":"The IPO market is expected to pump the brakes ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday with seven IPOs scheduled to raise $1.9 billion in the week ahead.\nChildcare provider KinderCare Learning Companies(KLC) plans to raise $503 million at a $2.7 billion market cap. The company serves children from 6 weeks to 12 years of age through 1,480 early childhood education centers and 650 before- and after-school sites across 40 states and Washington DC. While KinderCare is a leader in the early childhood education market, its business been significantly disrupted by the pandemic.\nBraze(BRZE) plans to raise $460 million at a $5.9 billion market cap. Founder-led Braze provides a customer engagement platform used by businesses to improve their marketing. Unprofitable with strong growth, Braze serves over 1,100 clients with net revenue retention of 120%+ as of 7/31/21.\nFast casual salad chain Sweetgreen(SG) plans to raise $300 million at a $2.9 billion market cap. Sweetgreen owned and operated 140 restaurants in 13 states and Washington DC as of 9/26/21. The company has a strong digital presence and plans double its store count in the next three to five years, though it has yet to achieve profitability.\nUserTesting(USER) plans to raise $227 million at a $2.6 billion market cap. The company provides a video-first customer feedback platform for enterprises, providing richer, more contextualized insights by capturing various human signals. Its customers include a diverse base of more than 2,100 enterprises, with strong net dollar-based retention. However, it remains unprofitable due to high S&M spend.\nAustralia’s Iris Energy(IREN), a Bitcoin mining company primarily powered by renewable energy, plans to raise $215 million at a $1.4 billion market cap. Iris acquired its first site in British Columbia in January 2021, which has approximately 30 MW of capacity and operating hashrate capacity of 0.7EH/s. The company is dependent on the Bitcoin market, and while prices have risen near all-time highs, it remains highly volatile.\nGermany-based Sono Group(SEV) plans to raise $150 million at a $1.1 billion market cap. The company is developing what it believes is disruptive solar technology, as well as a solar and battery powered vehicle. Despite already accepting 16,000 pre-orders worth $390 million in net sales, it is not expected to reach commercialization until 2023, and will remain highly unprofitable for years.\nCanadian gold exploration company Austin Gold(AUST) plans to raise $15 million at a $64 million market cap. The company currently has interests in four gold exploration properties located in the state of Nevada, with just one property that it considers material at this time. Austin Gold has not generated any operating revenues to date.\n\nIPO Market Snapshot\nThe Renaissance IPO Indices are market cap weighted baskets of newly public companies. As of 11/11/2021, the Renaissance IPO Index was up 3.6% year-to-date, while the S&P 500 was up 23.8%. Renaissance Capital's IPO ETF (NYSE: IPO) tracks the index, and top ETF holdings include Snowflake (SNOW) and Uber Technologies (UBER). The Renaissance International IPO Index was down 18.7% year-to-date, while the ACWX was up 8.7%. Renaissance Capital’s International IPO ETF (NYSE: IPOS) tracks the index, and top ETF holdings include Meituan-Dianping and SoftBank.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":176,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":847112457,"gmtCreate":1636501035783,"gmtModify":1636501036007,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/847112457","repostId":"1127189501","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":335,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":857011874,"gmtCreate":1635494298986,"gmtModify":1635494299160,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yup. 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Long term still up.....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/857011874","repostId":"2179291720","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":151,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":820473544,"gmtCreate":1633424870785,"gmtModify":1633424870918,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CF\">$CF Industries Holdings Inc(CF)$</a>any comments for this💲💲💲","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CF\">$CF Industries Holdings Inc(CF)$</a>any comments for this💲💲💲","text":"$CF Industries Holdings Inc(CF)$any comments for this💲💲💲","images":[{"img":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc19ddaff156efab9309c55e69dbb8eb","width":"1080","height":"3167"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/820473544","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":363,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":691137693,"gmtCreate":1640146453373,"gmtModify":1640146453635,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/691137693","repostId":"1175963832","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1275,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":693780402,"gmtCreate":1640079686238,"gmtModify":1640079686619,"author":{"id":"4091157554167160","authorId":"4091157554167160","name":"Philip67","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7f690109b021e9f6ef3020de90ca3eb5","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4091157554167160","authorIdStr":"4091157554167160"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"👍","listText":"👍","text":"👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/693780402","repostId":"1117226796","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117226796","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1640057164,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1117226796?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-12-21 11:26","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117226796","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Palantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.</li>\n <li>PLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.</li>\n <li>Despite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7230cdd890b86f9941b99b1503d04049\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1044\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>spxChrome/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Palantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.</p>\n<p><b>3 Issues Brought Up By Bears</b></p>\n<p>Palantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:</p>\n<p><b>1. Shareholder Dilution</b></p>\n<p>Growth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b5263c8346cfbbb898f1d1ac9a5bead\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Thanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fc39008812f5e2d0082dedc95b025c68\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Massive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/917ca4d7a390ced61d7c92d528f84fc1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"539\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Press Release</span></p>\n<p>Compared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.</p>\n<p><b>2. Reliance on government contracts</b></p>\n<p>In a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/de23409915ee3811691b986a42ece899\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Palantir Technologies presentation</span></p>\n<p>In fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With</p>\n<p>With the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.</p>\n<p>The claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actually<i>declined</i>year-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.</p>\n<p><b>3. Exposure to rising rates</b></p>\n<p>Massive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.</p>\n<p>This being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.</p>\n<p><b>Why Palantir Is Still Attractive</b></p>\n<p>Bears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.</p>\n<p>Palantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.</p>\n<p><b>Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>In general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. It makes sense to listen to the bears' arguments, but I believe that the pros outweigh the cons here.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: 3 Reasons Against It And Why It's Still A Buy\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-12-21 11:26 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4475960-palantir-3-reasons-against-it-and-why-its-still-a-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117226796","content_text":"Summary\n\nPalantir Technologies is a battleground stock. Listening to the bears' arguments is a good idea for bulls.\nPLTR dilutes its shareholders, but that is not necessarily a huge problem.\nDespite some interest rate headwinds, PLTR seems like a good investment to me, thanks to a strong moat and great growth outlook.\n\nspxChrome/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nPalantir Technologies (PLTR) is an embattled growth stock, and in recent weeks, bears have been winning as shares continued to decline. There are, indeed some important bear arguments, such as dilution, reliance on government contracts, and rising interest rates. I do, however, still believe that Palantir Technologies is an attractive long-term investment, due to the act that its technology could lead to massive growth for many years to come.\n3 Issues Brought Up By Bears\nPalantir is a growth stock that brings out highly convinced bulls as well as highly convinced bears. Generally, I am in the bullish camp here, but taking a look at the bear arguments can be a good idea as well. Three of the most common arguments against Palantir are the following ones:\n1. Shareholder Dilution\nGrowth on a company-wide basis is important, but growth on a per-share basis is even more important. There are many examples that show that changes in a company's share count can create or destroy a lot of shareholder value. Apple (AAPL), for example, has seen its net income grow by roughly 190% over the last decade:\nData by YCharts\nThanks to a declining share count, its earnings per share rose by a much more attractive 350%, however -- buybacks created a lot of shareholder value. There are also examples where a rising share count destroyed a lot of shareholder value, e.g. at Citigroup (C):\nData by YCharts\nMassive share issuance during the Great Recession has resulted in a 75% earnings per share decline since 2007, even though net profits were up over the same time frame. Looking at the changes in a company's share count thus makes sense, as those changes can have a large impact in the long run. At Palantir, we see that the share count has been rising considerably since the company went public. During the most recent quarter, Palantir's share count looked like this:\nSource: Palantir Press Release\nCompared to the second quarter, Palantir's average share count was 1.895 billion, which makes for a 3.5% quarterly increase, which pencils out to an annual growth rate in the mid-teens. That is, of course, not negligible at all, and bears to have an argument when they state that shareholders get diluted at a meaningful pace. On the other hand, Palantir's business growth rate is way higher than 3% per quarter, as the company has guided for ~40% revenue growth this year, and since Palantir should also deliver outsized business growth in the coming years. Even if Palantir's share count were to climb by 10%-15% a year going forward, revenue per share would still climb by 25%+ a year thanks to the fact that PLTR is growing rapidly. I also believe that dilution will, over the years, decline. Not only has this been the case at many other growth companies, e.g. Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG), or Meta (FB), but it is also logical from an option rewards perspective. Option rewards are especially generous when a company is not yet publicly traded and when its future is still more uncertain, but as a company matures, employees get more comfortable as risks for the company decline, and they do not demand large option packages any longer. Last but not least, Palantir also generates strong free cash flows that should allow the company to do share buybacks in the future, which should help improve the dilution rate as well.\n2. Reliance on government contracts\nIn a recent bearish article, fellow Seeking Alpha contributor On The Pulse argued that Palantir was overvalued and that its reliance on government contracts was an issue. Palantir Technologies is, indeed, reliant on government contracts to a large degree today, but I do not believe that this is a major issue. First, Palantir has diversified away from government contracts in the recent past, thanks to massive growth in its commercial business:\nSource: Palantir Technologies presentation\nIn fact, Palantir's commercial business has been growing much faster than its government business in the recent past, which shows that commercial customers from all kinds of industries apparently see a lot of value in Palantir's technology -- otherwise, they wouldn't be buying at a rapid pace. With\nWith the commercial business growth rate outpacing the government business growth rate, Palantir will, over the years, become a company that is less and less dependent on government contracts, and that will ultimately turn into a B2B-focused software/technology player. Even if Palantir were to remain a government-focused company forever, which seems unlikely based on the current growth rates of the individual business units, that would not necessarily be an issue. Working for the government means that there is very little counterparty risk and that existing relations can easily be used to get future contracts. Last but not least, with government budgets rising relatively steadily, good government connections allow for considerable growth opportunities -- especially in the defense tech/security tech space Palantir is active in, as there is a huge need for further investments in this space.\nThe claim that a government focus leads to lacking scalability is also false, I believe. Per Palantir's most recent quarterly report (linked above), its operating expenses rose by $9 million between Q3 2020 and Q3 2021 -- whereas revenues rose by $103 million in the same time frame. This backs out changes in share-based compensation. If one were to include those SBC expenses, Palantir's expenses actuallydeclinedyear-over-year while the company managed to grow its revenue by close to 40%. The claim that Palantir will not generate any scale advantages over the years thus seems to be unfounded, I believe. Instead, the data suggest that Palantir will be able to grow its margins considerably -- the company was able to grow its adjusted gross profit by a massive $90 million while growing its adjusted operating expenses by just $9 million -- making for excellent operating leverage.\n3. Exposure to rising rates\nMassive inflation will force the Fed to raise rates in 2022 and beyond, and that could be an issue for growth stocks. Companies that are not profitable today, or that have the vast majority of their profits in the distant future, are more exposed to a rising discount rate compared to companies that have low or no growth and that generate a large amount of all future profits in the near term. This could result in outperformance of value stocks versus growth stocks in the coming years, I believe. Palantir, which is not profitable yet, naturally belongs in the \"growth\" bucket that could see an above-average impact from rising interest rates. There is no real counter-argument here, I believe -- it is indeed true that the impact of rising rates on Palantir, all else equal, will be larger compared to a value stock like AbbVie (ABBV), for example.\nThis being an incremental negative for Palantir doesn't mean that shares have to be avoided under any circumstances, however. Indeed, even despite some potential headwinds from rising rates, Palantir could still be an attractive investment if other arguments have a larger weight -- I believe this to be true, as I see PLTR's massive growth potential and huge moat outweighing some near-term headwinds from rising rates.\nWhy Palantir Is Still Attractive\nBears bring up a range of arguments against Palantir, and as shown above, those can have merit. I believe that they might be overblown in some cases, but taking a look at the bear's arguments doesn't hurt -- in fact, it seems like a good idea to look at both sides in order to make a more informed decision. Dilution is indeed an issue, although I do not believe that this will be too much of a headwind, since PLTR's business growth easily outpaces dilution and since dilution, overall, should slow down over the years. Government reliance will wane over the years due to an above-average commercial business growth rate, and in general, doing business with the government is not a bad thing anyway. The claim that PLTR lacks scalability seems to be false, from what I see in PLTR's data.\nPalantir is, despite these arguments, attractive, I believe: The company is growing rapidly, has decades-long growth potential in both its government business as well as on the commercial side, and Palantir seems to have a very wide moat. This combination could turn Palantir into one of the largest and most important companies eventually -- although investors shouldn't expect this to happen in the very near term. Instead, I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will grow at a considerable rate throughout the 2020s and beyond, as our world becomes ever more data-hungry -- both governments, as well as enterprises, will try to get the most value out of all of this data, and Palantir, with its tailored solutions, will be there to offer that value to its customers. With new tools such as the recently-showcased Foundry for crypto, Palantir is at the forefront of all kinds of emerging technologies. Thanks to the fact that Palantir has access to top talent -- the result of SBC and of an excellent working environment-- I believe that there is a good chance that Palantir will be able to be highly competitive in all kinds of future markets in the Big Data/AI space that may not even exist yet.\nTakeaway\nIn general, I am not much of a growth investor -- instead, I primarily focus on attractively priced stocks with strong cash flows, oftentimes those that pay dividends. Palantir, however, is somewhat of an outlier in my portfolio -- it's a growth stock, it is not really profitable yet, and most of its potential is years away. Due to the highly attractive combination of a massive market opportunity, excellent talent, and a wide moat, Palantir still seems like an attractive long-term investment to me. This isn't a stock that will make investors rich quickly, but I believe that there is a very good chance that Palantir will turn into a very dominant, important company over the next 10+ years. At 19x next year's revenue, PLTR is not cheap, but when we expect that the company will grow at a strong rate for many years, that also doesn't seem outlandish to me at all. 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