社区
首页
集团介绍
社区
资讯
行情
学堂
TigerAI
登录
注册
T20210902002
IP属地：北京
+关注
帖子 · 112
帖子 · 112
关注 · 0
关注 · 0
粉丝 · 0
粉丝 · 0
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
01-30
不卖股价就会跌，有钱不赚的傻子
非常抱歉，此主贴已删除
看
1,414
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-12-26
小鹏更好，更智能，更有前途，人刑机器人，会飞的汽车
看
1,341
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-26
$英伟达(NVDA)$
限制出口台能涨吗
看
1,217
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-08
$XChange TEC(XHG)$
为什么每股收益210，请高手说一下
看
1,940
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-08
$XChange TEC(XHG)$
每股收益为什么210那么高，那个高手说一下
看
1,388
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-07
性价比太高了，比我的P7便宜10万了
小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元
11月7日，小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元，共分为三个版本，其中长续航版为18.68万元，超长续航版19.88万元。另外，限定版MAX版21.88万元，首发限定500台。受此消息影响，$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$美股盘前直线拉升，现涨近7%。
小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元
看
1,223
回复
1
点赞
3
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-05
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
赌特朗普获胜吗
看
1,707
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-11-05
好，小鹏市值一路攀升
小鹏汽车们不讲武德？周鸿祎激辩何小鹏：新能源车叫不叫创新？
在新浪新闻2024探索大会上，360创始人周鸿祎与小鹏汽车董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。从燃油车到新能源车，以小鹏汽车为代表的中国新能源车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德，大举碾压一众传统豪华汽车呢？周鸿祎认为，创新有两个主要思路。但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了，他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。何小鹏认为，AI将来是一个基础。
小鹏汽车们不讲武德？周鸿祎激辩何小鹏：新能源车叫不叫创新？
看
1,286
回复
评论
点赞
1
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-10-31
$容联云(RAASY)$
怎么交易
看
927
回复
评论
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
T20210902002
T20210902002
·
2024-10-31
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
小鹏会飞的汽车，低空经济+新能源智驾先锋，股价被低估了
看
1,790
回复
1
点赞
点赞
编组 21备份 2
分享
举报
加载更多
热议股票
{"i18n":{"language":"zh_CN"},"isCurrentUser":false,"userPageInfo":{"id":"3461627930667913","uuid":"3461627930667913","gmtCreate":1498534640719,"gmtModify":1630567536316,"name":"T20210902002","pinyin":"t20210902002","introduction":"","introductionEn":"","signature":"","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0a2963eb37c60c5d6d4a8dbcd266952","hatId":"ca_profile_frame_DWr5S1","hatName":"","vip":1,"status":2,"fanSize":3,"headSize":44,"tweetSize":112,"questionSize":0,"limitLevel":900,"accountStatus":4,"level":{"id":3,"name":"书生虎","nameTw":"書生虎","represent":"努力向上","factor":"发布10条非转发主帖,其中5条获得他人回复或点赞","iconColor":"3C9E83","bgColor":"A2F1D9"},"themeCounts":0,"badgeCounts":0,"badges":[],"moderator":false,"superModerator":false,"manageSymbols":null,"badgeLevel":null,"boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"favoriteSize":0,"symbols":null,"coverImage":null,"realNameVerified":null,"userBadges":[{"badgeId":"228c86a078844d74991fff2b7ab2428d-2","templateUuid":"228c86a078844d74991fff2b7ab2428d","name":"投资总监虎","description":"证券账户累计交易金额达到30万美元","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9d20b23f1b6335407f882bc5c2ad12c0","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ada3b4533518ace8404a3f6dd192bd29","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/177f283ba21d1c077054dac07f88f3bd","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2025.05.02","exceedPercentage":"80.58%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1101},{"badgeId":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561-4","templateUuid":"e50ce593bb40487ebfb542ca54f6a561","name":"明星虎友","description":"加入老虎社区2000天","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dddf24b906c7011de2617d4fb3f76987","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/53d58ad32c97254c6f74db8b97e6ec49","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6304700d92ad91c7a33e2e92ec32ecc1","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.12.19","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1001},{"badgeId":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969-3","templateUuid":"35ec162348d5460f88c959321e554969","name":"传说交易员","description":"证券或期货账户累计交易次数达到300次","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/656db16598a0b8f21429e10d6c1cb033","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/03f10910d4dd9234f9b5702a3342193a","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0c767e35268feb729d50d3fa9a386c5a","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.08.13","exceedPercentage":"93.11%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100},{"badgeId":"976c19eed35f4cd78f17501c2e99ef37-1","templateUuid":"976c19eed35f4cd78f17501c2e99ef37","name":"博闻投资者","description":"累计交易超过10只正股","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e74cc24115c4fbae6154ec1b1041bf47","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d48265cbfd97c57f9048db29f22227b0","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76c6d6898b073c77e1c537ebe9ac1c57","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1102},{"badgeId":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a-1","templateUuid":"518b5610c3e8410da5cfad115e4b0f5a","name":"实盘交易者","description":"完成一笔实盘交易","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e08a1cc2087a1de93402c2c290fa65b","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4504a6397ce1137932d56e5f4ce27166","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4b22c79415b4cd6e3d8ebc4a0fa32604","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2021.12.21","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100}],"userBadgeCount":5,"currentWearingBadge":null,"individualDisplayBadges":null,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"location":"北京","starInvestorFollowerNum":0,"starInvestorFlag":false,"starInvestorOrderShareNum":0,"subscribeStarInvestorNum":1,"ror":null,"winRationPercentage":null,"showRor":false,"investmentPhilosophy":null,"starInvestorSubscribeFlag":false},"page":1,"watchlist":null,"tweetList":[{"id":398166446035360,"gmtCreate":1738231112211,"gmtModify":1738231539144,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"不卖股价就会跌，有钱不赚的傻子","listText":"不卖股价就会跌，有钱不赚的傻子","text":"不卖股价就会跌，有钱不赚的傻子","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/398166446035360","repostId":"2507699533","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1414,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":385814879224216,"gmtCreate":1735220764003,"gmtModify":1735220766318,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"小鹏更好，更智能，更有前途，人刑机器人，会飞的汽车","listText":"小鹏更好，更智能，更有前途，人刑机器人，会飞的汽车","text":"小鹏更好，更智能，更有前途，人刑机器人，会飞的汽车","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/385814879224216","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1341,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":375162372592096,"gmtCreate":1732634590764,"gmtModify":1732634592006,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$英伟达(NVDA)$ </a> 限制出口台能涨吗","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$英伟达(NVDA)$ </a> 限制出口台能涨吗","text":"$英伟达(NVDA)$ 限制出口台能涨吗","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/375162372592096","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1217,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368787340591504,"gmtCreate":1731077452632,"gmtModify":1731077454107,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XHG\">$XChange TEC(XHG)$ </a> 为什么每股收益210，请高手说一下","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XHG\">$XChange TEC(XHG)$ </a> 为什么每股收益210，请高手说一下","text":"$XChange TEC(XHG)$ 为什么每股收益210，请高手说一下","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368787340591504","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1940,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368787000803728,"gmtCreate":1731077369676,"gmtModify":1731077371472,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XHG\">$XChange TEC(XHG)$ </a> 每股收益为什么210那么高，那个高手说一下","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XHG\">$XChange TEC(XHG)$ </a> 每股收益为什么210那么高，那个高手说一下","text":"$XChange TEC(XHG)$ 每股收益为什么210那么高，那个高手说一下","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368787000803728","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1388,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":368411366601144,"gmtCreate":1730985664304,"gmtModify":1730985666705,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"性价比太高了，比我的P7便宜10万了","listText":"性价比太高了，比我的P7便宜10万了","text":"性价比太高了，比我的P7便宜10万了","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/368411366601144","repostId":"1185414620","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1185414620","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"为用户提供金融资讯、行情、数据，旨在帮助投资者理解世界，做投资决策。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"老虎资讯综合","id":"102","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1730984532,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1185414620?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2024-11-07 21:02","market":"hk","language":"zh","title":"小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1185414620","media":"老虎资讯综合","summary":"11月7日，小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元，共分为三个版本，其中长续航版为18.68万元，超长续航版19.88万元。另外，限定版MAX版21.88万元，首发限定500台。受此消息影响，$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$美股盘前直线拉升，现涨近7%。","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>11月7日，小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元，共分为三个版本，其中长续航版为18.68万元，超长续航版19.88万元。另外，限定版MAX版21.88万元，首发限定500台。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c130d027149ea18881303fb62072e46c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"722\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>受此消息影响，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">小鹏汽车</a>美股盘中一度飙涨逾14%。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6cf8964e3b87d8cfbd6fb81b933c4e6c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"560\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><p></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/102\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">老虎资讯综合 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-11-07 21:02</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>11月7日，小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元，共分为三个版本，其中长续航版为18.68万元，超长续航版19.88万元。另外，限定版MAX版21.88万元，首发限定500台。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c130d027149ea18881303fb62072e46c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"722\" tg-height=\"372\"/></p><p>受此消息影响，<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">小鹏汽车</a>美股盘中一度飙涨逾14%。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6cf8964e3b87d8cfbd6fb81b933c4e6c\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"560\" tg-height=\"240\"/></p><p></p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8a7cf240033f083a329240e6179df017","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1185414620","content_text":"11月7日，小鹏P7+正式上市，起售价为18.68万元，共分为三个版本，其中长续航版为18.68万元，超长续航版19.88万元。另外，限定版MAX版21.88万元，首发限定500台。受此消息影响，小鹏汽车美股盘中一度飙涨逾14%。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"09868":1,"XPEV":1.1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1223,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3548250395594327","authorId":"3548250395594327","name":"资深韭菜不饶人","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90f7853f84dbd801959c590f09a29041","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3548250395594327","authorIdStr":"3548250395594327"},"content":"我官网都打不开了 性价比巨高","text":"我官网都打不开了 性价比巨高","html":"我官网都打不开了 性价比巨高"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":367734918463696,"gmtCreate":1730819534539,"gmtModify":1730820373886,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$特斯拉(TSLA)$ </a> 赌特朗普获胜吗","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$特斯拉(TSLA)$ </a> 赌特朗普获胜吗","text":"$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 赌特朗普获胜吗","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/367734918463696","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1707,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":367791847374904,"gmtCreate":1730810839826,"gmtModify":1730810841803,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"好，小鹏市值一路攀升","listText":"好，小鹏市值一路攀升","text":"好，小鹏市值一路攀升","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/367791847374904","repostId":"2479796626","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2479796626","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1730331000,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2479796626?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2024-10-31 07:30","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"小鹏汽车们不讲武德？周鸿祎激辩何小鹏：新能源车叫不叫创新？","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2479796626","media":"砍柴网","summary":"在新浪新闻2024探索大会上，360创始人周鸿祎与小鹏汽车董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。从燃油车到新能源车，以小鹏汽车为代表的中国新能源车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德，大举碾压一众传统豪华汽车呢？周鸿祎认为，创新有两个主要思路。但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了，他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。何小鹏认为，AI将来是一个基础。","content":"<html><body><article><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OR9QxqiLo1JIEu0Xl6ahULHnxjExdTZifSaSCpvIq6LLgAA/0\"/><p>来源：TechWeb（ID:TechWeb）</p><p>作者：果青</p><p>新的科技树让我们有换道重新赛跑的巨大机遇。</p><p>在新浪新闻2024探索大会上，360创始人周鸿祎与<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">小鹏汽车</a>董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。</p><p><strong>在谈到“在AI的大背景下，如何理解创新”这个话题，两人不约而同提到了汽车行业的创新。</strong></p><p>从燃油车到新能源车，以小鹏汽车为代表的中<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600617\">国新能源</a>车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德，大举碾压一众传统<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DLX\">豪华</a>汽车呢？</p><p>两位提到的“think different”、“换道赛跑”等创新方式或许正是解答。</p><p><strong>周鸿祎：今天新能源车叫不叫创新？</strong></p><p>周鸿祎认为，创新有两个主要思路。一个是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>的slogan所宣称的“think different”，就是叫“与众不同”。</p><p>“实际上我理解成叫反向操作，就是别人怎么干，我要跟你反着干，因为我不会愿意接受市场领先者的游戏规则。”</p><p>AMD一直跟着intel干，但是ARM和<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">英伟达</a>跟intel全是反向操作。现在反过来，ARM有了市场份额之后，反而现在进攻了桌面和服务器市场。英伟达的GPU就是做并行计算，等了很多年，终于等到机会，一举就超过了所有的同行。</p><p>另一个是，很多人把创新等同于发明，这是一个误解，极少数人会成为发明家，这种创新很难得可贵，但是绝大多数企业是没有这个能力的。</p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OMaKa2u2qXLqmLfotRVHO7HcqJt3aJKlqvmrj-K8TEKywAA/0\"/><p>周鸿祎强调，实际上很多企业的创新，是把别人已经做过的事换一种方式再做一遍。换什么方式呢？大概总结了几种方式：要么是把原来体验很费力的一件事情，做的现在体验很简单；原来很难得到的一个东西现在变得很容易，或者原来很贵的一个东西变得很便宜。也就是说从用户体验，从商业模式上来进行这种像也是反向操作。</p><p>现在包括国内的很多大公司，还有国外的大公司在用大模型的时候，并没有急于用大模型做出新东西。而是用大模型把已有的业务在流程中的卡点和堵点优化。</p><p>如何检验这种创新是否有效，周鸿祎提了一个“十倍原则”，就是能减少十倍的人力、或者能降低十倍的成本、或者是能提升十倍的体验等等，找到这些点，去赋能，它也叫创新。</p><p><strong>“今天新能源车叫不叫创新？”</strong></p><p>车这个行业已经干了一百多年了，是个非常古老的行业。但是原来是四个轮子的沙发，小鹏他们就把它改成四个轮子的超级电脑，那这就是换一种方式把汽车做一遍。这就是体验上的创新。</p><p><strong>比如说今天你要是想买一个0到100公里加速3秒的油车，恐怕得买超级跑车。据说没有四五百万人民币下不来。</strong></p><p><strong>但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了，他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。像很多轿跑，大概二三十万的车做到0到100公里，加速也能在3秒4秒。</strong></p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OuTEAZf0N3h2hFkeoK2dsqUusuoecIaQSDugT9roylz4EAA/0\"/><p>小鹏G6</p><p><strong>这就是用新的技术，让过去很难达到的事情现在达到了，我觉得这也叫创新</strong><strong>。</strong></p><p>过去，要百万以上的迈巴赫，才会有按摩座椅、通风加热等功能。现在国产车，从50万到20万的车，甚至到15万的车，都无一例外给弄一个“彩电、冰箱、大沙发”都给你用上，这也算一种创新。</p><p>绝大多数企业能够把已经做过的事情，重新把它换一种方式做一遍，就有可能也是创新。</p><p><strong>何小鹏：弯道超车的难度远远高于换道赛跑</strong></p><p><strong>明年没有强AI能力的汽车开始难卖</strong></p><p>何小鹏补充认为，think different里面有一个点，就是你到底是弯道超车还是换道赛车。我认为在过去的时间里面，大部分做不到弯道超车，除非你的科技树跟别人的科技树是完全不一样。</p><p>就像刚才老周（周鸿祎）讲我们不讲武德，原来有很多的东西是很贵的。比如说汽油的引擎要想做到3秒100公里加速是很贵的，原来的空气悬挂成本就几万块钱，现在已经能够做到是以前的10分之1，原来的很多在摄像头、激光雷达、高级定位的感知，一套可能要10万到20万人民币。现在已经做的也是10分之1。</p><p><strong>所以新的科技树让我们有换道重新赛跑的巨大机遇。</strong></p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OXPOrylvDubU08ABt8-fhJudx-iyxxhtw5hOOIsSTHf8cAA/0\"/><p>我觉得这一点是有非常多人应该思考的，“<strong>弯道超车的难度远远高于换道赛跑</strong>”。</p><p>为什么我们中国的造车新势力能够做到，不是弯道超车，是换了一条赛道，就是在新的电化学领域里面，这个汽车主力的能力靠供电，它才能撑住冰箱、彩电、大沙发跟电脑这些车内的配置。</p><p><strong>我们所做的很多的逻辑是在全新的赛道。</strong><strong>我们要相信它是用户的需求。</strong>且这个用户的需求，我们还能够把节奏做到一个非直线，但是适合我们的曲线的节奏。我认为更多的是有形成了从微创，从小型创新到大型创新的一个变化。</p><p>何小鹏认为，<strong>AI将来是一个基础。下一个十年也是AI汽车的十年</strong><strong>。</strong></p><p>为什么我们现在把AI当做一个汽车的基础能力？把高等级自动驾驶内置进去了，它会自动调整你的悬挂，能够让你过这个底这个减速带更舒服；当我们有AI内置进去之后，可以做到把电池的管理做得更好，那每一台车的续航可以提高5公里到20公里。所以AI的汽车，我相信他一定会让以后的汽车有巨大的变化。这个变化就会意味着到了明年没有强AI能力，没有强自动驾驶能力的汽车都开始难卖了。</p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OY0W0r8MgZTmAbS4cMuAaj-_YFtx2fKBy7UgXzVFYYMgoAA/0\"/></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>小鹏汽车们不讲武德？周鸿祎激辩何小鹏：新能源车叫不叫创新？</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n小鹏汽车们不讲武德？周鸿祎激辩何小鹏：新能源车叫不叫创新？\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-31 07:30 北京时间 <a href=http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN20241031073515a1fd77b9&s=b><strong>砍柴网</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>来源：TechWeb（ID:TechWeb）作者：果青新的科技树让我们有换道重新赛跑的巨大机遇。在新浪新闻2024探索大会上，360创始人周鸿祎与小鹏汽车董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。在谈到“在AI的大背景下，如何理解创新”这个话题，两人不约而同提到了汽车行业的创新。从燃油车到新能源车，以小鹏汽车为代表的中国新能源车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德，大举碾压一众传统豪华汽车呢？...</p>\n\n<a href=\"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN20241031073515a1fd77b9&s=b\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","ARM":"ARM Holdings","BK4526":"热门中概股","BK4555":"新能源车","09868":"小鹏汽车-W","XPEV":"小鹏汽车","EVS.SI":"MSCI China Electric Vehicles and Future Mobility ETF-NikkoAM","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓"},"source_url":"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN20241031073515a1fd77b9&s=b","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/9a95c1376e76363c1401fee7d3717173","article_id":"2479796626","content_text":"来源：TechWeb（ID:TechWeb）作者：果青新的科技树让我们有换道重新赛跑的巨大机遇。在新浪新闻2024探索大会上，360创始人周鸿祎与小鹏汽车董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。在谈到“在AI的大背景下，如何理解创新”这个话题，两人不约而同提到了汽车行业的创新。从燃油车到新能源车，以小鹏汽车为代表的中国新能源车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德，大举碾压一众传统豪华汽车呢？两位提到的“think different”、“换道赛跑”等创新方式或许正是解答。周鸿祎：今天新能源车叫不叫创新？周鸿祎认为，创新有两个主要思路。一个是苹果的slogan所宣称的“think different”，就是叫“与众不同”。“实际上我理解成叫反向操作，就是别人怎么干，我要跟你反着干，因为我不会愿意接受市场领先者的游戏规则。”AMD一直跟着intel干，但是ARM和英伟达跟intel全是反向操作。现在反过来，ARM有了市场份额之后，反而现在进攻了桌面和服务器市场。英伟达的GPU就是做并行计算，等了很多年，终于等到机会，一举就超过了所有的同行。另一个是，很多人把创新等同于发明，这是一个误解，极少数人会成为发明家，这种创新很难得可贵，但是绝大多数企业是没有这个能力的。周鸿祎强调，实际上很多企业的创新，是把别人已经做过的事换一种方式再做一遍。换什么方式呢？大概总结了几种方式：要么是把原来体验很费力的一件事情，做的现在体验很简单；原来很难得到的一个东西现在变得很容易，或者原来很贵的一个东西变得很便宜。也就是说从用户体验，从商业模式上来进行这种像也是反向操作。现在包括国内的很多大公司，还有国外的大公司在用大模型的时候，并没有急于用大模型做出新东西。而是用大模型把已有的业务在流程中的卡点和堵点优化。如何检验这种创新是否有效，周鸿祎提了一个“十倍原则”，就是能减少十倍的人力、或者能降低十倍的成本、或者是能提升十倍的体验等等，找到这些点，去赋能，它也叫创新。“今天新能源车叫不叫创新？”车这个行业已经干了一百多年了，是个非常古老的行业。但是原来是四个轮子的沙发，小鹏他们就把它改成四个轮子的超级电脑，那这就是换一种方式把汽车做一遍。这就是体验上的创新。比如说今天你要是想买一个0到100公里加速3秒的油车，恐怕得买超级跑车。据说没有四五百万人民币下不来。但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了，他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。像很多轿跑，大概二三十万的车做到0到100公里，加速也能在3秒4秒。小鹏G6这就是用新的技术，让过去很难达到的事情现在达到了，我觉得这也叫创新。过去，要百万以上的迈巴赫，才会有按摩座椅、通风加热等功能。现在国产车，从50万到20万的车，甚至到15万的车，都无一例外给弄一个“彩电、冰箱、大沙发”都给你用上，这也算一种创新。绝大多数企业能够把已经做过的事情，重新把它换一种方式做一遍，就有可能也是创新。何小鹏：弯道超车的难度远远高于换道赛跑明年没有强AI能力的汽车开始难卖何小鹏补充认为，think different里面有一个点，就是你到底是弯道超车还是换道赛车。我认为在过去的时间里面，大部分做不到弯道超车，除非你的科技树跟别人的科技树是完全不一样。就像刚才老周（周鸿祎）讲我们不讲武德，原来有很多的东西是很贵的。比如说汽油的引擎要想做到3秒100公里加速是很贵的，原来的空气悬挂成本就几万块钱，现在已经能够做到是以前的10分之1，原来的很多在摄像头、激光雷达、高级定位的感知，一套可能要10万到20万人民币。现在已经做的也是10分之1。所以新的科技树让我们有换道重新赛跑的巨大机遇。我觉得这一点是有非常多人应该思考的，“弯道超车的难度远远高于换道赛跑”。为什么我们中国的造车新势力能够做到，不是弯道超车，是换了一条赛道，就是在新的电化学领域里面，这个汽车主力的能力靠供电，它才能撑住冰箱、彩电、大沙发跟电脑这些车内的配置。我们所做的很多的逻辑是在全新的赛道。我们要相信它是用户的需求。且这个用户的需求，我们还能够把节奏做到一个非直线，但是适合我们的曲线的节奏。我认为更多的是有形成了从微创，从小型创新到大型创新的一个变化。何小鹏认为，AI将来是一个基础。下一个十年也是AI汽车的十年。为什么我们现在把AI当做一个汽车的基础能力？把高等级自动驾驶内置进去了，它会自动调整你的悬挂，能够让你过这个底这个减速带更舒服；当我们有AI内置进去之后，可以做到把电池的管理做得更好，那每一台车的续航可以提高5公里到20公里。所以AI的汽车，我相信他一定会让以后的汽车有巨大的变化。这个变化就会意味着到了明年没有强AI能力，没有强自动驾驶能力的汽车都开始难卖了。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"09868":0.9,"ARM":0.7,"EVS.SI":0.6,"FFIE":0.6,"XPEV":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1286,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":366034350723152,"gmtCreate":1730390076758,"gmtModify":1730390078257,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RAASY\">$容联云(RAASY)$ </a> 怎么交易","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/RAASY\">$容联云(RAASY)$ </a> 怎么交易","text":"$容联云(RAASY)$ 怎么交易","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/366034350723152","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":927,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":365637403828296,"gmtCreate":1730307005064,"gmtModify":1730307006492,"author":{"id":"3461627930667913","authorId":"3461627930667913","name":"T20210902002","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8ee8547f1b8cdfa4ed09d51cfe01b469","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3461627930667913","authorIdStr":"3461627930667913"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$ </a> 小鹏会飞的汽车，低空经济+新能源智驾先锋，股价被低估了","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$ </a> 小鹏会飞的汽车，低空经济+新能源智驾先锋，股价被低估了","text":"$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$ 小鹏会飞的汽车，低空经济+新能源智驾先锋，股价被低估了","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/365637403828296","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1790,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3578941451846110","authorId":"3578941451846110","name":"Frewsky","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"3578941451846110","authorIdStr":"3578941451846110"},"content":"低空经济主要是无人机，这噱头就是为了圈钱","text":"低空经济主要是无人机，这噱头就是为了圈钱","html":"低空经济主要是无人机，这噱头就是为了圈钱"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":false}