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01-30
不卖股价就会跌,有钱不赚的傻子
急了!特朗普考虑,英伟达特供版也不卖中国
彭博社30日援引知情人士的话报道称,特朗普政府官员正在研究将销售限制扩大至英伟达对华“特供版”AI芯片H20。自2022年以来,英伟达的对华销售一直受到美国政府限制,如果延长这些措施将进一步损害其在中国这个最大半导体市场的收入。在严苛的限制条件下,英伟达针对中国市场的特供版H800、A800两款芯片也面临禁售。为了符合美国的出口管制新规,英伟达推出了针对中国市场的“特供”版本H20。中方将采取必要措施,坚决维护自身正当权益。
急了!特朗普考虑,英伟达特供版也不卖中国
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2024-12-26
小鹏更好,更智能,更有前途,人刑机器人,会飞的汽车
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2024-11-26
$英伟达(NVDA)$
限制出口台能涨吗
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2024-11-08
$XChange TEC(XHG)$
为什么每股收益210,请高手说一下
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2024-11-08
$XChange TEC(XHG)$
每股收益为什么210那么高,那个高手说一下
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2024-11-07
性价比太高了,比我的P7便宜10万了
小鹏P7+正式上市,起售价为18.68万元
11月7日,小鹏P7+正式上市,起售价为18.68万元,共分为三个版本,其中长续航版为18.68万元,超长续航版19.88万元。另外,限定版MAX版21.88万元,首发限定500台。受此消息影响,$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$美股盘前直线拉升,现涨近7%。
小鹏P7+正式上市,起售价为18.68万元
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2024-11-05
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
赌特朗普获胜吗
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2024-11-05
好,小鹏市值一路攀升
小鹏汽车们不讲武德?周鸿祎激辩何小鹏:新能源车叫不叫创新?
在新浪新闻2024探索大会上,360创始人周鸿祎与小鹏汽车董事长何小鹏等进行了激情对谈。从燃油车到新能源车,以小鹏汽车为代表的中国新能源车凭什么在提供更好驾乘体验的同时还能在价格上不讲武德,大举碾压一众传统豪华汽车呢?周鸿祎认为,创新有两个主要思路。但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了,他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。何小鹏认为,AI将来是一个基础。
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2024-10-31
$容联云(RAASY)$
怎么交易
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2024-10-31
$小鹏汽车(XPEV)$
小鹏会飞的汽车,低空经济+新能源智驾先锋,股价被低估了
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src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OMaKa2u2qXLqmLfotRVHO7HcqJt3aJKlqvmrj-K8TEKywAA/0\"/><p>周鸿祎强调,实际上很多企业的创新,是把别人已经做过的事换一种方式再做一遍。换什么方式呢?大概总结了几种方式:要么是把原来体验很费力的一件事情,做的现在体验很简单;原来很难得到的一个东西现在变得很容易,或者原来很贵的一个东西变得很便宜。也就是说从用户体验,从商业模式上来进行这种像也是反向操作。</p><p>现在包括国内的很多大公司,还有国外的大公司在用大模型的时候,并没有急于用大模型做出新东西。而是用大模型把已有的业务在流程中的卡点和堵点优化。</p><p>如何检验这种创新是否有效,周鸿祎提了一个“十倍原则”,就是能减少十倍的人力、或者能降低十倍的成本、或者是能提升十倍的体验等等,找到这些点,去赋能,它也叫创新。</p><p><strong>“今天新能源车叫不叫创新?”</strong></p><p>车这个行业已经干了一百多年了,是个非常古老的行业。但是原来是四个轮子的沙发,小鹏他们就把它改成四个轮子的超级电脑,那这就是换一种方式把汽车做一遍。这就是体验上的创新。</p><p><strong>比如说今天你要是想买一个0到100公里加速3秒的油车,恐怕得买超级跑车。据说没有四五百万人民币下不来。</strong></p><p><strong>但是像小鹏他们国内车厂不讲武德了,他们做电车这个推力很澎湃。像很多轿跑,大概二三十万的车做到0到100公里,加速也能在3秒4秒。</strong></p><img 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src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OXPOrylvDubU08ABt8-fhJudx-iyxxhtw5hOOIsSTHf8cAA/0\"/><p>我觉得这一点是有非常多人应该思考的,“<strong>弯道超车的难度远远高于换道赛跑</strong>”。</p><p>为什么我们中国的造车新势力能够做到,不是弯道超车,是换了一条赛道,就是在新的电化学领域里面,这个汽车主力的能力靠供电,它才能撑住冰箱、彩电、大沙发跟电脑这些车内的配置。</p><p><strong>我们所做的很多的逻辑是在全新的赛道。</strong><strong>我们要相信它是用户的需求。</strong>且这个用户的需求,我们还能够把节奏做到一个非直线,但是适合我们的曲线的节奏。我认为更多的是有形成了从微创,从小型创新到大型创新的一个变化。</p><p>何小鹏认为,<strong>AI将来是一个基础。下一个十年也是AI汽车的十年</strong><strong>。</strong></p><p>为什么我们现在把AI当做一个汽车的基础能力?把高等级自动驾驶内置进去了,它会自动调整你的悬挂,能够让你过这个底这个减速带更舒服;当我们有AI内置进去之后,可以做到把电池的管理做得更好,那每一台车的续航可以提高5公里到20公里。所以AI的汽车,我相信他一定会让以后的汽车有巨大的变化。这个变化就会意味着到了明年没有强AI能力,没有强自动驾驶能力的汽车都开始难卖了。</p><img src=\"https://inews.gtimg.com/om_bt/OY0W0r8MgZTmAbS4cMuAaj-_YFtx2fKBy7UgXzVFYYMgoAA/0\"/></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" 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