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2022-09-26
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
我的天,我四月份卖的时候,特斯拉有1000块美金一股
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2021-04-01
$怪兽充电(EM)$
连这都上市了啊
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2021-02-17
你们几个,指着鼻子骂完老板就想跑了吗
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2021-01-30
在瞎扯什么,什么散户打空头,明明是多头打空头
热血式炒股亲历者:一夜爆赚1000万,醒来倒欠6000万
全球投资者再一次见证历史。最近的美股市场,散户们通过使用期权和抱团,“热血式炒股”震动华尔街。28日美股交易时段,GME股价一度涨至483美元的历史新高,随后经历17次熔断,最终收跌超过40%。热门互联网券商们一度宣布限制相关“妖股”交易,并提高保证金要求。其他社群里也充斥着买入GME爆赚1000万港元,一觉醒来没平仓,却倒欠券商6000万港元的真实案例。
热血式炒股亲历者:一夜爆赚1000万,醒来倒欠6000万
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2021-01-20
真的是多事之秋啊
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2021-01-09
艾玛我之前加仓了
蔚来发布首款纯电动轿车NIOET7,续航里程超1000公里
在1月9日于成都举行的NIO Day2020上,蔚来发布首款纯电动轿车产品NIOET7,续航里程超1000公里。蔚来ET7风阻系数低至0.23Cd,百公里加速仅3.9s,100-0km/h制动距离仅3
蔚来发布首款纯电动轿车NIOET7,续航里程超1000公里
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2020-12-07
虽说现在内容都是视屏化,甚至短视频化,但是已经很久没上腾讯爱奇艺优酷看电视了,抖音也觉得很没意思。还是以前的经典老片好看。
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2020-12-05
$一起教育科技(YQ)$
这个股票跟恒大物业有得一拼
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2020-12-04
其实我想说,国内大部分手机的续航都远远超过苹果,但是苹果这几年还是销冠。是因为苹果只靠品牌吗?好好想想。
特斯拉真的只是赢在品牌吗?
@托尼带水张:
随着今年电动车市场大火,特斯拉股价突破天际,成为2010年来涨幅最高的科技股,也把美国两大传统车企Ford和通用远远甩在后面。而在特斯拉大火之际,两家国产电动车理想和小鹏也准备风风火火得上市,毕竟在去年蔚来汽车都被人觉得快要破产的时候,高瓴也是低位割肉,说明在现实面前,理想和未来都不值钱,现在股价起来了,蔚来自然就有了未来。而因为特斯拉的光环效应,就连我也想不到他们股价跌的理由。 当然要聊电动车,一定要聊特斯拉,今年特斯拉的销售不可谓不火,据说特斯拉已经成为了一线城市的街车,于是号称最懂车的李想老师发出了感慨,那就是整个国产品牌都不懂车,被吊打,也就是下面这个截图。 为什么李想老师会有这个结论,因为很简单,特斯拉续航并不是最高的,在国内不断补贴之下现在国内传统车企,如比亚迪为代表的电动车续航已经超过了特斯拉,但销量却不如,带着上市光环和因为美团大佬王兴的站台,似乎让所有人都觉得李想老师对于电动汽车的评价是不明觉厉,那就是特斯拉完全靠的品牌,所以理想和蔚来的只需要做品牌的路线就可以成功? 这个发现对于李想和李斌老师,实在是让人兴奋的结论,那就是我们不需要投入太多研发,只需要做品牌做营销跪舔客户,就可以弯道超车,实际是不是这样,我还是把观点写在前面: 1. 特斯拉早期的成功是毫无争议的产品竞争力带来了品牌的溢价,海外目前的产品都还无法与特斯拉竞争,包括续航、自动驾驶等功能 2. 国内汽车实际产品性能已经不落后特斯拉,但是在品牌上输给特斯拉,但这并不意味着现在国内电动车品牌只需要做品牌就可以成功,因为有品牌的海外车企如BBA会有觉醒的一天,目前的格局是国内车型不丰富竞争不充分的结果 3. &n
特斯拉真的只是赢在品牌吗?
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