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2023-05-25
错了就是错了!别总找借口,这篇爽章风格很明显,想带节奏,给比亚迪找借口,呵呵
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呵呵,个人觉得,心有不甘是专门做给外界看的,这是周瑜打黄盖,一个愿打,一个愿挨。chatgpt出现后,造车意义已经不大了,以前造车是因为刚好造车可以填补智能手机的影响,因为那个时候没啥好项目,现在不一样了,造车不赚钱,又有chatgpt这个更有想象力的事情,谁还造车,估计雷军现在想退也退不出来了,他估计也想打黄盖,可是找不到
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问界”,坊间充斥着华为造车的声音;不少问界车主也欢呼,终于可以贴华为的标了。他们高兴得太早了。华尔街见闻了解到,华为内部发文后,问界门店已经从4月1日开始,撤下所有与华为有关的宣传资料。余承东对此心有不甘。在3月31日晚间,余承东在华为心声社区中,实名发贴,“这个时代变了,这只会让我们更加艰难!若干年后大家都会看明白的,留给时间去检验吧!”字里行间,透露出不甘、无奈。在4月1日的中国电动汽车百人会论坛上,余承东再次坦言,华为每年在智能汽车业务上的投入超过百亿元人民币,其中大头是智能驾驶。如果没有大量使用华为方案汽车的销售,就无法形成商业变现的闭环。在余承东看来,华为想做汽车领域的零部件供应商,但这个时代对零部件供应商提出了更高要求。尤其是智能化,不是过去标准化部件的销售路径,而是要与车厂深度合作。这场风波,将华为内部汽车产业的路线之争,暴露于人前。华为汽车业务阶段性的矛盾凸显,是先要贴牌卖车活下来,实现盈利,还是坚持只做供应商?按照任正非的想法,华为不造车,而是要做智能汽车的技术和解决方案供应商。他在内部多次强调了这一点。过去几年,华为与车企合作已经试水了三条路径,零部件供应模式、解决方案集成HI模式以及智选车模式。智选车模式由余承东主导,是与车企合作最深入的一个方向,除了提供基本的零部件、智能汽车全栈解决方案外,还参与到设计、管理、营销和销售当中。三个模式合作的车型中,只有问界出了爆款。因此随着王军的停职,华为与车企的合作越来越倾向于智选模式了。但今年以来,问界销售大幅下滑。为了提振销量,余承东从2月底开始,频频现身,为问界的生产商赛力斯站台,也是他主导将“AITO 问界”变成了“HUAWEI 问界”。按照余承东的想法,要把“华为问界”打造成一个生态品牌。以与赛力斯合作为开端,接下来还会和奇瑞、江淮等车企展开合作,生产各种华为问界车型。在华为内部,汽车业务是唯一亏损的业务。2022年财报里,华为首次披露汽车业务营收为20.77亿元,仅占整体的0.3%;与此同时相关研发支出超103亿元,投入远不能覆盖产出。标上“HUAWEI”,无疑让问界有了华为品牌的直接背书。这样,“华为汽车”卖得越多,华为分成就会越多,可以尽快实现盈利。但这对华为要做供应商的野心来说,却是个危险的动作。余承东,显然越界了。改名“HUAWEI 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