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希望索尼能够砍掉一些业务,专注几项
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写得很好,谢谢作者
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但同时,新势力的估值已经飙升到了一个恐怖的水平,蔚来汽车荣登美国散户交易榜第一名,网友将这三家新势力戏称为电动三傻。 下面这张图计算了各家车企的销量、市值、收入(为了考虑新势力的成长性,我们选取蔚来理想小鹏的2020年预测收入和销量,和其他车企的2019年数据进行对比)。 单车销售市值是一个公允衡量估值的指标,我们看到,小鹏、理想、蔚来的单车销售市值是大众汽车的180~400倍,是特斯拉的2.5~5倍! 凭啥?同样卖一辆车,电动车就比燃油车值钱几百倍,电动车小弟比老大值钱几倍。 当然,成长股投资者可以说,我们赌的是趋势,赌的是终局,现在的销量都只是小荷尖尖,这个逻辑貌似目前也没法证伪。 我也一直在反思,击落电动三傻离谱估值的会是什么。 结果很简单:竞争格局。 聚义厅在竞争格局很重要:从鸦片想到化妆股中举过一个精彩的例子: “根据剑桥大学的资料记载,1830年代渣甸洋行的鸦片贸易利润是百分之几百。而1850-1860年代,渣甸洋行自有鸦片贸易利润是15%,代理经销鸦片的利润是4%。一个有着极度上瘾特征,不消费就要眼泪鼻涕满地打滚的品类,在打通上下游产业链后的利润率只有这个水平,放到现在还不如卖鸭脖子的。” 当壁垒消失,竞争格局恶化后,连贩鸦片这样的暴利生意都会变得平庸,时间的力量就是这么伟大。 而对于汽车新势力的竞争格局,最大的问题就出在:汽车的换车周期太长了,传统势力有充足的时间做出反击,从而使得竞争变得无比红海。 很多人举苹果和诺基亚的例子,说明新势力会如何在电动车的战场上把老玩家打的丢盔弃甲。 但他们忽略了一个关键的差异:汽车的换车周期在10年左右,而手机的换机周期只有2年。 苹果干诺基亚,可以打闪电战,","listText":"今年环球资本市场最闪亮的星,无疑是蔚来汽车为代表的中国电动车新势力。蔚来用1年30倍的涨幅宣告,中国永远不缺商业神话,李斌这个2019年最惨的人也可以翻身。 但同时,新势力的估值已经飙升到了一个恐怖的水平,蔚来汽车荣登美国散户交易榜第一名,网友将这三家新势力戏称为电动三傻。 下面这张图计算了各家车企的销量、市值、收入(为了考虑新势力的成长性,我们选取蔚来理想小鹏的2020年预测收入和销量,和其他车企的2019年数据进行对比)。 单车销售市值是一个公允衡量估值的指标,我们看到,小鹏、理想、蔚来的单车销售市值是大众汽车的180~400倍,是特斯拉的2.5~5倍! 凭啥?同样卖一辆车,电动车就比燃油车值钱几百倍,电动车小弟比老大值钱几倍。 当然,成长股投资者可以说,我们赌的是趋势,赌的是终局,现在的销量都只是小荷尖尖,这个逻辑貌似目前也没法证伪。 我也一直在反思,击落电动三傻离谱估值的会是什么。 结果很简单:竞争格局。 聚义厅在竞争格局很重要:从鸦片想到化妆股中举过一个精彩的例子: “根据剑桥大学的资料记载,1830年代渣甸洋行的鸦片贸易利润是百分之几百。而1850-1860年代,渣甸洋行自有鸦片贸易利润是15%,代理经销鸦片的利润是4%。一个有着极度上瘾特征,不消费就要眼泪鼻涕满地打滚的品类,在打通上下游产业链后的利润率只有这个水平,放到现在还不如卖鸭脖子的。” 当壁垒消失,竞争格局恶化后,连贩鸦片这样的暴利生意都会变得平庸,时间的力量就是这么伟大。 而对于汽车新势力的竞争格局,最大的问题就出在:汽车的换车周期太长了,传统势力有充足的时间做出反击,从而使得竞争变得无比红海。 很多人举苹果和诺基亚的例子,说明新势力会如何在电动车的战场上把老玩家打的丢盔弃甲。 但他们忽略了一个关键的差异:汽车的换车周期在10年左右,而手机的换机周期只有2年。 苹果干诺基亚,可以打闪电战,","text":"今年环球资本市场最闪亮的星,无疑是蔚来汽车为代表的中国电动车新势力。蔚来用1年30倍的涨幅宣告,中国永远不缺商业神话,李斌这个2019年最惨的人也可以翻身。 但同时,新势力的估值已经飙升到了一个恐怖的水平,蔚来汽车荣登美国散户交易榜第一名,网友将这三家新势力戏称为电动三傻。 下面这张图计算了各家车企的销量、市值、收入(为了考虑新势力的成长性,我们选取蔚来理想小鹏的2020年预测收入和销量,和其他车企的2019年数据进行对比)。 单车销售市值是一个公允衡量估值的指标,我们看到,小鹏、理想、蔚来的单车销售市值是大众汽车的180~400倍,是特斯拉的2.5~5倍! 凭啥?同样卖一辆车,电动车就比燃油车值钱几百倍,电动车小弟比老大值钱几倍。 当然,成长股投资者可以说,我们赌的是趋势,赌的是终局,现在的销量都只是小荷尖尖,这个逻辑貌似目前也没法证伪。 我也一直在反思,击落电动三傻离谱估值的会是什么。 结果很简单:竞争格局。 聚义厅在竞争格局很重要:从鸦片想到化妆股中举过一个精彩的例子: “根据剑桥大学的资料记载,1830年代渣甸洋行的鸦片贸易利润是百分之几百。而1850-1860年代,渣甸洋行自有鸦片贸易利润是15%,代理经销鸦片的利润是4%。一个有着极度上瘾特征,不消费就要眼泪鼻涕满地打滚的品类,在打通上下游产业链后的利润率只有这个水平,放到现在还不如卖鸭脖子的。” 当壁垒消失,竞争格局恶化后,连贩鸦片这样的暴利生意都会变得平庸,时间的力量就是这么伟大。 而对于汽车新势力的竞争格局,最大的问题就出在:汽车的换车周期太长了,传统势力有充足的时间做出反击,从而使得竞争变得无比红海。 很多人举苹果和诺基亚的例子,说明新势力会如何在电动车的战场上把老玩家打的丢盔弃甲。 但他们忽略了一个关键的差异:汽车的换车周期在10年左右,而手机的换机周期只有2年。 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