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- 既见未来为何不buy既见未来为何不buy
  ·07-26
  不管刘杰是否存在主观恶意，在客观上已经给别人造成了恶意营销，道个歉是应该的
  火药味十足！蔚来副总让理想副总道歉
  电车界7月25日消息今日早些时候，电车界报道了理想i8还未上市就遭到水军抹黑一事。对此，蔚来高级副总裁兼乐道汽车总裁沈斐在评论区表示：“建议直接报警！”今天下午，沈斐在微博发文称，关于昨天建议“报警”之事，网友已查实源头并非乐道。从目前信息来看，刘杰发布截图的行为确实引发了网友对蔚来的质疑。而沈斐在缺乏明确证据表明刘杰存在主观恶意的情况下要求其道歉，显得略失分寸，但其诉求本质是为被无端牵连的品牌正名。
  火药味十足！蔚来副总让理想副总道歉
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- 既见未来为何不buy既见未来为何不buy
  ·07-25
  这家媒体的话只能信一半
  国产车被打脸了？懂车帝实测36款车智驾，特斯拉完胜国产
  按照懂车帝的测试，一共完成了183次测试，但是其中只有44次测试被评为“通过”，整体通过率24%，这说明目前的所谓智驾，真的做不到替代人类开车，绝对只能当作辅助驾驶。另外，从具体的各车型表现来看，这次是特斯拉完胜。各车型表现，具体如上图所示，只有特斯拉的两款车，通过了6项测试中的5项，而表现最好的国产车，也只通过了3项，有些国产车甚至连一项都无法通过。要是拿出最新的版本来测试，可能特斯拉的结果会表现更好。
  国产车被打脸了？懂车帝实测36款车智驾，特斯拉完胜国产
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- 既见未来为何不buy既见未来为何不buy
  ·07-24
  净说大实话，净说关键点 [爱你]
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