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Upstart (NASDAQ:UPST) Illustrates the Risk Inherent in High P/E Stocks

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Upstart (NASDAQ:UPST) Illustrates the Risk Inherent in High P/E Stocks

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The company’s forward guidance (revenue to rise 209% year-on-year) would normally be extremely bullish. But, clearly the market expected even more. This illustrates the risk that stocks priced for perfection carry.</p>\n<p><em>Third Quarter Highlights:</em></p>\n<ul>\n<li>Revenue up 250% YoY to $228 million vs $215 million expected.</li>\n<li>EPS up 253% YoY to $0.60 vs $0.27 expected.</li>\n<li>Bank partner originated loans up 244% YoY to $3.13 billion</li>\n<li>Conversion on rate requests up to  23% vs 15% a year ago. </li>\n<li>Fourth quarter revenue guidance between $255 and $265 million, up ~209% YoY</li>\n<li>Fourth quarter net income guidance between $16 and $20 million, up ~85% YoY </li>\n</ul>\n<p>By most accounts this was a very good result, but the market appears to have been hoping for more. 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But, looking forward, analysts are expecting growth rates to slow considerably after the end of this year.If these analysts are correct, the stock is trading on a very high forward P/E as well.</p>\n<h3>What this means for Upstart’s shareholders </h3>\n<p>Some of the best stocks to own over the last two decades have traded on very high P/E ratios for years. Unfortunately a lot of the worst stocks to own have traded on excessively high P/E ratios too. Ultimately it depends how long a company can maintain the very high growth rate before growth begins to slow.</p>\n<p>Upstart does potentially have a very large TAM (total addressable market) so it’s entirely possible that it grows into its lofty valuation. But investing in high PE stocks does come with two distinct risks. Firstly, there is the risk that the company never generates enough earnings to justify the earnings multiple you pay for it. 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The company’s forward guidance (revenue to rise 209% year-on-year) would normally be extremely bullish. But, clearly the market expected even more. This illustrates the risk that stocks priced for perfection carry.\nThird Quarter Highlights:\n\nRevenue up 250% YoY to $228 million vs $215 million expected.\nEPS up 253% YoY to $0.60 vs $0.27 expected.\nBank partner originated loans up 244% YoY to $3.13 billion\nConversion on rate requests up to  23% vs 15% a year ago. \nFourth quarter revenue guidance between $255 and $265 million, up ~209% YoY\nFourth quarter net income guidance between $16 and $20 million, up ~85% YoY \n\nBy most accounts this was a very good result, but the market appears to have been hoping for more. 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But, looking forward, analysts are expecting growth rates to slow considerably after the end of this year.If these analysts are correct, the stock is trading on a very high forward P/E as well.\nWhat this means for Upstart’s shareholders \nSome of the best stocks to own over the last two decades have traded on very high P/E ratios for years. Unfortunately a lot of the worst stocks to own have traded on excessively high P/E ratios too. Ultimately it depends how long a company can maintain the very high growth rate before growth begins to slow.\nUpstart does potentially have a very large TAM (total addressable market) so it’s entirely possible that it grows into its lofty valuation. But investing in high PE stocks does come with two distinct risks. Firstly, there is the risk that the company never generates enough earnings to justify the earnings multiple you pay for it. 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