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美股小小学生
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02-24
笑话[开心]
大和:下调中芯国际(00981)评级至“沽售” 升目标价至29港元
智通财经APP获悉,大和发布研报称,由于估值过高,下调中芯国际评级至“沽售”,目标价由27港元上调至29港元。同时基于该行与管理层同样关注需求透支可能对其2026年业务构成压力,下调对中芯国际明年业绩预测。该行指,中芯今年资本支出同比持平的指引令该行意外,因该行相信基于地缘政治问题导致其2020至2024年的异常高资本密集度,会在今年美国收紧出口管制生效而结束。
大和:下调中芯国际(00981)评级至“沽售” 升目标价至29港元
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02-12
摩🐶急了[开心]
大摩:维持中芯国际(00981)“减持”评级 目标价20.3港元
智通财经APP获悉,摩根士丹利发布研究报告称,维持中芯国际“减持”评级,目标价20.3港元。大摩虽认同先进节点生产的强劲增长,但因2025年竞争加剧,仍对成熟节点业务表示担忧。中芯国际2025年市盈率为2倍,而ROAE为4.8%,该行认为并不具吸引力。大摩相信,中芯国际今年第一季的强劲表现将归功于中国消费补贴所带动的产品组合,以及先进节点生产的高晶圆价格。就全年而言,中芯国际预期收入增长将快于同业平均水平。
大摩:维持中芯国际(00981)“减持”评级 目标价20.3港元
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美股小小学生
美股小小学生
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02-11
🐶东蹭DS热度[开心]
京东(JD)盘前涨超3% 京东云智算服务GCS接入DeepSeek
金吾财讯 | 京东(JD)盘前涨超3%,截至发稿,报41.53美元。消息面上,继上线 DeepSeek-R1/V3模型,并支持通过言犀AI开发计算平台进行公有云部署,以及通过vGPU AI算力平台、DeepSeek大模型一体机进行私有化部署后,京东云将DeepSeek-R1模型的多个版本接入京东云智算服务GCS,助力初创公司和开发者松构建自己的AI应用,每小时低至1.89元。京东云智算服务GCS提供DeepSeek-R1模型预装环境,支持轻量级模型(1.5B-7B)、中级模型(32B)的参数模型环境,满足不同开发需求。
京东(JD)盘前涨超3% 京东云智算服务GCS接入DeepSeek
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美股小小学生
美股小小学生
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02-10
千年接盘侠、冤大头,ppt砖家缺乏创新勇气,拿来主义基因培育不出deepseek这样技术革新性企业
阿里加码,2025年AI超级应用大战一触即发
出击。
阿里加码,2025年AI超级应用大战一触即发
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美股小小学生
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02-04
计算机前沿领域,不要迷信所谓20年经验的顶级科学家,年轻人才有活力和创造力,越老越守旧固步自封
传阿里引入顶级人工智能科学家,打响新年AI To C赛道第一枪
2月3日,据业内人士透露,一位全球顶级人工智科学家已于近期正式入职阿里巴巴,后续或将专注AI To C业务的基础大模型研发与应用。据悉,这位顶级人工智能科学家在工业界和学术界均拥有超20年经验,尤其在多模态AI领域颇有建树。阿里曝出开年AI To C赛道的第一个大消息,是国内各大厂商加速布局AI应用行业态势的一个显著信号。
传阿里引入顶级人工智能科学家,打响新年AI To C赛道第一枪
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美股小小学生
美股小小学生
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01-20
大局已定,谁来也没用
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美股小小学生
美股小小学生
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01-20
国产euv两年内可以实用,中芯追上美积电只是第一步,然后是高端芯片白菜价,碾压所有对手
专家:中芯国际能追上台积电,靠这三个条件
快科技1月20日消息,近日新加坡毕盛资产管理的创始人兼联席首席投资官王国辉接受媒体采访时表示,中芯国际可以追上台积电。中芯国际拥有所需的资金,并且还得到了中国政府的支持。最后,对于中芯国际面临的技术瓶颈,王国辉承认,中国目前确实无法获得ASML的EUV光刻机,而这些设备是在尖端节点上生产芯片所需的。简单来说就三个条件:资金、人才和市场让中芯国际可以追上台积电。
专家:中芯国际能追上台积电,靠这三个条件
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美股小小学生
美股小小学生
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01-20
中芯已经攻克5nm,两年内国产euv可以实用,国内芯片全面国产替代...这么多明牌,美积电必将是昨日黄花,等你明年再来对比两家的数据[开心]
中芯国际,全面对比台积电,差距到底有多大?
在 芯片 代工领域,台积电是全球第一大龙头企业,市值更是超过1万亿美元,真正的遥遥领先。而 中芯国际 是中国大陆第一大龙头企业,被人认为是中国大陆的台积电,那么问题就来了,这两大企业,目前差距到底有多大?而中芯国际的市值目前是8073亿元,对比台积电,大约是其十分之一左右,这个差距还是较大的。而台积电三季度营收235亿美元,约是中芯国际的11倍,利润为101亿美元,是中芯国际的68倍多。
中芯国际,全面对比台积电,差距到底有多大?
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2024-12-24
好大喜功、哗众取宠的马老板,养着一群舔狗😆
非常抱歉,此主贴已删除
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2024-11-11
带着任务来搞笑的
富瑞:维持中芯国际“持有”评级 目标价升至27港元
富瑞发布研究报告称,维持中芯国际“持有”评级,H股目标价则从18港元升至27港元。 富瑞表示,注意到中国出台的一系列支持政策,以及市场对晶圆代工本地化生产率进一步提高的正面情绪,推动中芯近期股价上扬,但提醒投资者要留意长期股本回报,强调行业供过于求的风险仍存在。
富瑞:维持中芯国际“持有”评级 目标价升至27港元
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