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  Here's what the Black Friday carnage may mean for the stock market's trade Monday, analysts say
  The new, fast-spreading B.1.1.529 strain of coronavirus declared a variant of concern by the World Health Organization roiled global markets on Black Friday, raising concerns about how the economy and Wall Street may perform in the coming week, following a selloff that wiped out November gains for the S&P 500 index and the Nasdaq Composite and sent the Dow Jones Industrial Average down by the most in a day since Oct. 28, 2020.What isn't clear is whether the latest coronavirus development will do
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  5 Stocks To Watch For November 23, 2021
  Some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are: Wall Street expects Best Buy Co Inc (NYSE: BBY) to report quarterly earnings at $1.91 per share on revenue of $11.56 billion before the opening bell. Best Buy shares rose 0.7% to $139.00 in after-hours trading.
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  PayPal: Heads I Win, Tails I Win
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  Chip prices set to rise into 2022 as TSMC hikes rates
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perform in the coming week, following a selloff that wiped out November gains for the S&amp;P 500 index and the Nasdaq Composite and sent the Dow Jones Industrial Average down by the most in a day since Oct. 28, 2020.</p>\n<p>WHO said that the omicron variant, which has been detected in Belgium, Israel, and Hong Kong and was first identified in southern parts of Africa, is more transmissible than the delta strain that is currently dominant world-wide, and other variants.</p>\n<p>The emergence of the new strain led to the White House announcing restrictions, starting on Monday, on travel for non-U.S. citizens and residents from South Africa, as well as from Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique, and Malawi, joining the European Union, the U.K., Singapore and Japan, which also announced similar travel bans.</p>\n<p>The market selloff during the abbreviated Black Friday session and the commensurate flight to assets that investors hope will perform better amid fresh mobility restrictions, helped to overshadow the usual focus on retail, on a day associated with heavy consumer spending ahead of the Christmas holiday. Friday's downturn also offered a crystal clear reminder that the path of the market and economy hinges on the course of COVID.</p>\n<p>What isn't clear is whether the latest coronavirus development will do lasting harm to the complexion of the market. Omicron comes at a fragile time for optimistic investors, with bears pointing to lofty stock market valuations, inflation worries and global economic growth concerns as reasons to expect a drawdown in equities that have managed to avoid a decline from a peak of more than 5%.</p>\n<p>In theory, Friday's post-Thanksgiving environment is traditionally lightly traded and therefore more susceptible to outsize price swings.</p>\n<p>The Nasdaq saw its lowest volume of the year on Black Friday, with 3.479 billion shares trading hands, well below the year-to-date average of 5.099 billion. The total composite volume, including trading on Intercontinental Exchange&nbsp;-owned NYSE platforms, was 8.760 billion, compared with an year-to-date average of 11.196 billion, according to Dow Jones Market Data.</p>\n<p>Still, only time will tell whether the reaction to omicron is a textbook, knee-jerk selloff or something more sinister.</p>\n<p>MarketWatch's Bill Watts wrote, citing Friday research from Mark Arbeter of Arbeter Investments, that the next level of support to watch for the S&amp;P 500 after closing at 4,594,62 on Friday is at 4,570, the 50-day exponential average; 4,566, the 38.2% retracement of the rally; and 4,550, a previous high from early September.</p>\n<p>\"It is too early to know to what extent the new variant will affect economies and markets, and Friday's market moves have probably been exacerbated by reduced liquidity owing to the US Thanksgiving holiday, and the risk that further bad news emerges over the weekend,\" writes Jonas Goltermann senior markets economist at Capital Economics, in a Friday research note.</p>\n<p>J.C. Parets of the All Star Charts blog writes that things could get dicey if the S&amp;P 500 is driven below 4,500, with little support beneath that point.</p>\n<p>\"You know how parents always tell you nothing good ever happens after midnight? Well in the S&amp;P 500, nothing good happens below 4500,\" he writes in a Friday blog.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ccfdc3ebd8825870bc713469baf0d1b2\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"355\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>All Star Charts</span></p>\n<p>\"If we're below that then there is a probably a much bigger problem out there, and the heaviest cash positions in 18 months would be warranted,\" Parets writes.</p>\n<p>Some analysts say that there are legitimate reasons for unease, on the public health front.</p>\n<p>\"The fact that this variant seems to be spreading much faster than previous versions (including the Delta variant) bears very careful monitoring,\" wrote Michael Strobaek, global chief investment officer at Credit Suisse, in a research note. There are some questions about the effectiveness of existing COVID vaccines from Pfizer&nbsp;and Moderna&nbsp;due to the number of mutations that the omicron variant bears on the spike protein. The spike protein is the part of the virus targeted by COVID-19 vaccines.</p>\n<p>Analyst at Jefferies led by analyst Sean Darby note that risk-appetite was already edging lower before Black Friday and the selloff may have been a \"tipping point\" in favor of caution and risk moderation.</p>\n<p>\"The news of a new or not so new COVID variant spreading in Southern Africaappears to have been the tipping point in altering risk appetite in the past 24 hours,\" the Jefferies analyst wrote.</p>\n<p>\"However, there has been a sea change in risk variables over the past month -- anincreasing number of 'tailed treasury auctions', declining equity market breadth andthe imperceptible change in US retail appetite that seems to have gone unnoticed.Positioning in global equities is one of the most aggressive in US history,\" according to Darby and his colleagues.</p>\n<p>Jefferies research suggests that investors are now expecting that the Federal Reserve, under renominated Chairman Jerome Powell, will hasten the pace of reductions in the central bank's asset purchases, which will lead to tighter financial conditions that could prove unfavorable to risky assets. Goldman Sachs sees the Fed stepping up tapering to $30 billion a month from a reduction of $15 billion, and estimates three policy interest rate increases in 2022, up from two.</p>\n<p>\"Ultimately the Sharpe ratio -- a measure of return per unit of risk -- isturning for global equities. We expect the gap between the performance of risky and safe haven assets to diminish,\" Jefferies wrote.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5a2b6cd6fadb4dd80d04e06539404155\" tg-width=\"699\" tg-height=\"203\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>via Jefferies</span></p>\n<p>The situation could still prove a buying opportunity for bold investors, however.</p>\n<p>Strobaek wrote that \"risk assets such as equities are likely to give back some strength, but we would see this as an opportunity in selective and specific areas.\"</p>\n<p>\"At this point, we reiterate our assessment from the latest Investment Committee report, i.e. keeping equities at a small overweight in portfolios and government bonds at an underweight,\" the Credit Suisse CIO writes.</p>\n<p>Analysts at Citigroup also said that \"we would buy into any dip,\" noting that its bearish checklist doesn't indicate significant red flags. \"Valuations look stretched, but other factors (credit spreads, fund flows) are not yet especially extended,\" Citi writes, with 7.5 out of 18 red flags triggered in its measures of global markets while the U.S. is seeing 9.5 of 18.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d4fba734970a8c977a13d6972402b65f\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Citi Research</span></p>\n<p>Greg Bassuk, CEO at AXS Investments in Port Chester, NY says that the end-of-week selling may have resulted in a Black Friday sale for stock-market investors.</p>\n<p>\"Black Friday is typically the unofficial kick-off to the annual holiday shopping season. But we believe the real shopping is for stocks that are beaten-down from Covid infection spikes, inflation fears, and supply chain woes, but that still possess strong fundamentals that will drive their gains as the economy ultimately reopens,\" he wrote</p>\n<p>That said, some analysts note that the lockdowns playing out in Europe and the spread of COVID, even before the omicron declaration, were reasons to be cautious since they will impact the global growth outlook.</p>\n<p>Either way, it seems that a degree of caveat emptor may be in force next week and could color trading for the remainder of the 2021.</p>\n<p>Trading on Monday will help determine whether bullishness persists or if a bearish phase is crystallizing.</p>\n<p>It will be a week focused on the state of employment, with the November U.S. jobs report due at the end of the week and Powell and others offering their final thoughts before a media blackout period starting ahead of the Federal Open Market Committee's final meeting of 2021 on Dec. 14-15.</p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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Friday's downturn also offered a crystal clear reminder that the path of the market and economy hinges on the course of COVID.\nWhat isn't clear is whether the latest coronavirus development will do lasting harm to the complexion of the market. Omicron comes at a fragile time for optimistic investors, with bears pointing to lofty stock market valuations, inflation worries and global economic growth concerns as reasons to expect a drawdown in equities that have managed to avoid a decline from a peak of more than 5%.\nIn theory, Friday's post-Thanksgiving environment is traditionally lightly traded and therefore more susceptible to outsize price swings.\nThe Nasdaq saw its lowest volume of the year on Black Friday, with 3.479 billion shares trading hands, well below the year-to-date average of 5.099 billion. The total composite volume, including trading on Intercontinental Exchange -owned NYSE platforms, was 8.760 billion, compared with an year-to-date average of 11.196 billion, according to Dow Jones Market Data.\nStill, only time will tell whether the reaction to omicron is a textbook, knee-jerk selloff or something more sinister.\nMarketWatch's Bill Watts wrote, citing Friday research from Mark Arbeter of Arbeter Investments, that the next level of support to watch for the S&P 500 after closing at 4,594,62 on Friday is at 4,570, the 50-day exponential average; 4,566, the 38.2% retracement of the rally; and 4,550, a previous high from early September.\n\"It is too early to know to what extent the new variant will affect economies and markets, and Friday's market moves have probably been exacerbated by reduced liquidity owing to the US Thanksgiving holiday, and the risk that further bad news emerges over the weekend,\" writes Jonas Goltermann senior markets economist at Capital Economics, in a Friday research note.\nJ.C. Parets of the All Star Charts blog writes that things could get dicey if the S&P 500 is driven below 4,500, with little support beneath that point.\n\"You know how parents always tell you nothing good ever happens after midnight? Well in the S&P 500, nothing good happens below 4500,\" he writes in a Friday blog.\nAll Star Charts\n\"If we're below that then there is a probably a much bigger problem out there, and the heaviest cash positions in 18 months would be warranted,\" Parets writes.\nSome analysts say that there are legitimate reasons for unease, on the public health front.\n\"The fact that this variant seems to be spreading much faster than previous versions (including the Delta variant) bears very careful monitoring,\" wrote Michael Strobaek, global chief investment officer at Credit Suisse, in a research note. There are some questions about the effectiveness of existing COVID vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna due to the number of mutations that the omicron variant bears on the spike protein. The spike protein is the part of the virus targeted by COVID-19 vaccines.\nAnalyst at Jefferies led by analyst Sean Darby note that risk-appetite was already edging lower before Black Friday and the selloff may have been a \"tipping point\" in favor of caution and risk moderation.\n\"The news of a new or not so new COVID variant spreading in Southern Africaappears to have been the tipping point in altering risk appetite in the past 24 hours,\" the Jefferies analyst wrote.\n\"However, there has been a sea change in risk variables over the past month -- anincreasing number of 'tailed treasury auctions', declining equity market breadth andthe imperceptible change in US retail appetite that seems to have gone unnoticed.Positioning in global equities is one of the most aggressive in US history,\" according to Darby and his colleagues.\nJefferies research suggests that investors are now expecting that the Federal Reserve, under renominated Chairman Jerome Powell, will hasten the pace of reductions in the central bank's asset purchases, which will lead to tighter financial conditions that could prove unfavorable to risky assets. Goldman Sachs sees the Fed stepping up tapering to $30 billion a month from a reduction of $15 billion, and estimates three policy interest rate increases in 2022, up from two.\n\"Ultimately the Sharpe ratio -- a measure of return per unit of risk -- isturning for global equities. We expect the gap between the performance of risky and safe haven assets to diminish,\" Jefferies wrote.\nvia Jefferies\nThe situation could still prove a buying opportunity for bold investors, however.\nStrobaek wrote that \"risk assets such as equities are likely to give back some strength, but we would see this as an opportunity in selective and specific areas.\"\n\"At this point, we reiterate our assessment from the latest Investment Committee report, i.e. keeping equities at a small overweight in portfolios and government bonds at an underweight,\" the Credit Suisse CIO writes.\nAnalysts at Citigroup also said that \"we would buy into any dip,\" noting that its bearish checklist doesn't indicate significant red flags. \"Valuations look stretched, but other factors (credit spreads, fund flows) are not yet especially extended,\" Citi writes, with 7.5 out of 18 red flags triggered in its measures of global markets while the U.S. is seeing 9.5 of 18.\nCiti Research\nGreg Bassuk, CEO at AXS Investments in Port Chester, NY says that the end-of-week selling may have resulted in a Black Friday sale for stock-market investors.\n\"Black Friday is typically the unofficial kick-off to the annual holiday shopping season. But we believe the real shopping is for stocks that are beaten-down from Covid infection spikes, inflation fears, and supply chain woes, but that still possess strong fundamentals that will drive their gains as the economy ultimately reopens,\" he wrote\nThat said, some analysts note that the lockdowns playing out in Europe and the spread of COVID, even before the omicron declaration, were reasons to be cautious since they will impact the global growth outlook.\nEither way, it seems that a degree of caveat emptor may be in force next week and could color trading for the remainder of the 2021.\nTrading on Monday will help determine whether bullishness persists or if a bearish phase is crystallizing.\nIt will be a week focused on the state of employment, with the November U.S. jobs report due at the end of the week and Powell and others offering their final thoughts before a media blackout period starting ahead of the Federal Open Market Committee's final meeting of 2021 on Dec. 14-15.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{".DJI":0.9,".IXIC":0.9,".SPX":0.9,"END":0.9,"ICE":0.9,"MRNA":0.9,"PFE":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1738,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":875229117,"gmtCreate":1637659472171,"gmtModify":1637659472349,"author":{"id":"3570852047190387","authorId":"3570852047190387","name":"tyng8825","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96881c116505f25bd9b7404b76c5e06d","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3570852047190387","authorIdStr":"3570852047190387"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice","listText":"Nice","text":"Nice","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/875229117","repostId":"2185638587","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2185638587","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Stock Market Quotes, Business News, Financial News, Trading Ideas, and Stock Research by Professionals","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Benzinga","id":"1052270027","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa"},"pubTimestamp":1637659145,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2185638587?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-23 17:19","market":"us","language":"en","title":"5 Stocks To Watch For November 23, 2021","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2185638587","media":"Benzinga","summary":"Some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are:\n\tWall Street expects  Best Buy Co Inc  (NYSE: BBY) to report quarterly earnings at $1.91 per share on revenue of $11.56 billion before the opening bell. Best Buy shares rose 0.7% to $139.00 in after-hours trading.\n","content":"<p>Some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Wall Street expects <b> Best Buy Co Inc </b> (NYSE:BBY) to report quarterly earnings at $1.91 per share on revenue of $11.56 billion before the opening bell. Best Buy shares rose 0.7% to $139.00 in after-hours trading.</li>\n <li><b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZM\">Zoom</a> Video Communications Inc </b> (NASDAQ:ZM) reported better-than-expected results for its third quarter on Monday. The company reported its customers that contribute more than $100,000 in the trailing 12 months totaled 2,507, up 94% year-over-year. Zoom Video shares, however, dropped 6.8% to $225.80 in the after-hours trading session.</li>\n <li>Analysts are expecting <b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DLTR\">Dollar Tree, Inc.</a> </b> (NASDAQ:DLTR) to have earned $0.96 per share on revenue of $6.41 billion in the recent quarter. The company will release earnings before the markets open. Dollar Tree shares fell 0.7% to $131.70 in after-hours trading.</li>\n</ul>\n<ul>\n <li><b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/URBN\">Urban Outfitters</a>, Inc.</b> (NASDAQ:URBN) posted upbeat earnings and sales results for the third quarter. Its same-store sales climbed 14.6% year-over-year during the quarter. Urban Outfitters shares tumbled 12.1% to $32.78 in the after-hours trading session.</li>\n <li>Analysts expect <b> HP Inc </b> (NYSE:HPQ) to post quarterly earnings at $0.88 per share on revenue of $15.40 billion after the closing bell. HP shares rose 0.2% to $32.00 in after-hours trading.</li>\n</ul>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>5 Stocks To Watch For November 23, 2021</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n5 Stocks To Watch For November 23, 2021\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-11-23 17:19</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Wall Street expects <b> Best Buy Co Inc </b> (NYSE:BBY) to report quarterly earnings at $1.91 per share on revenue of $11.56 billion before the opening bell. Best Buy shares rose 0.7% to $139.00 in after-hours trading.</li>\n <li><b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZM\">Zoom</a> Video Communications Inc </b> (NASDAQ:ZM) reported better-than-expected results for its third quarter on Monday. The company reported its customers that contribute more than $100,000 in the trailing 12 months totaled 2,507, up 94% year-over-year. Zoom Video shares, however, dropped 6.8% to $225.80 in the after-hours trading session.</li>\n <li>Analysts are expecting <b> <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/DLTR\">Dollar Tree, Inc.</a> </b> (NASDAQ:DLTR) to have earned $0.96 per share on revenue of $6.41 billion in the recent quarter. The company will release earnings before the markets open. Dollar Tree shares fell 0.7% to $131.70 in after-hours trading.</li>\n</ul>\n<ul>\n <li><b><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/URBN\">Urban Outfitters</a>, Inc.</b> (NASDAQ:URBN) posted upbeat earnings and sales results for the third quarter. Its same-store sales climbed 14.6% year-over-year during the quarter. Urban Outfitters shares tumbled 12.1% to $32.78 in the after-hours trading session.</li>\n <li>Analysts expect <b> HP Inc </b> (NYSE:HPQ) to post quarterly earnings at $0.88 per share on revenue of $15.40 billion after the closing bell. HP shares rose 0.2% to $32.00 in after-hours trading.</li>\n</ul>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4170":"电脑硬件、储存设备及电脑周边","ZM":"Zoom","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4094":"服装零售","BK4525":"远程办公概念","BK4504":"桥水持仓","BK4114":"综合货品商店","BK4023":"应用软件","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念","BK4567":"ESG概念","DLTR":"美元树公司","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","BK4076":"电脑与电子产品零售","BK4528":"SaaS概念","BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","BK4535":"淡马锡持仓","URBN":"都市服饰","BBY":"百思买"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2185638587","content_text":"Some of the stocks that may grab investor focus today are:\n\nWall Street expects  Best Buy Co Inc  (NYSE:BBY) to report quarterly earnings at $1.91 per share on revenue of $11.56 billion before the opening bell. Best Buy shares rose 0.7% to $139.00 in after-hours trading.\nZoom Video Communications Inc  (NASDAQ:ZM) reported better-than-expected results for its third quarter on Monday. The company reported its customers that contribute more than $100,000 in the trailing 12 months totaled 2,507, up 94% year-over-year. Zoom Video shares, however, dropped 6.8% to $225.80 in the after-hours trading session.\nAnalysts are expecting  Dollar Tree, Inc.  (NASDAQ:DLTR) to have earned $0.96 per share on revenue of $6.41 billion in the recent quarter. The company will release earnings before the markets open. Dollar Tree shares fell 0.7% to $131.70 in after-hours trading.\n\n\nUrban Outfitters, Inc. (NASDAQ:URBN) posted upbeat earnings and sales results for the third quarter. Its same-store sales climbed 14.6% year-over-year during the quarter. Urban Outfitters shares tumbled 12.1% to $32.78 in the after-hours trading session.\nAnalysts expect  HP Inc  (NYSE:HPQ) to post quarterly earnings at $0.88 per share on revenue of $15.40 billion after the closing bell. HP shares rose 0.2% to $32.00 in after-hours trading.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"BBY":0.9,"DLTR":0.9,"URBN":0.9,"ZM":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2141,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":873248493,"gmtCreate":1636952669999,"gmtModify":1636952670221,"author":{"id":"3570852047190387","authorId":"3570852047190387","name":"tyng8825","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96881c116505f25bd9b7404b76c5e06d","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3570852047190387","authorIdStr":"3570852047190387"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice","listText":"Nice","text":"Nice","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":10,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/873248493","repostId":"2183536049","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2280,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":853845750,"gmtCreate":1634792641753,"gmtModify":1634792642448,"author":{"id":"3570852047190387","authorId":"3570852047190387","name":"tyng8825","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96881c116505f25bd9b7404b76c5e06d","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3570852047190387","authorIdStr":"3570852047190387"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice","listText":"Nice","text":"Nice","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/853845750","repostId":"1118528593","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1118528593","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1634788571,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1118528593?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-21 11:56","market":"us","language":"en","title":"PayPal: Heads I Win, Tails I Win","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1118528593","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Summary\n\nFirst, I briefly discuss the news about PYPL buying PINS.\nSecond, I explain how this improv","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>First, I briefly discuss the news about PYPL buying PINS.</li>\n <li>Second, I explain how this improved PYPL's price for investors.</li>\n <li>Third, I describe how PINS fits into PYPL and how it could be accretive.</li>\n <li>Fourth, I also outline why a \"dead deal\" is also quite acceptable.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/44adcd1b54b3a4b65c37aded8b348f75\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1009\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Sean Gallup/Getty Images News</span></p>\n<p>The purpose of this article is to take a big picture view of PayPal (PYPL) in light of the recent news regarding PYPL buying Pinterest (PINS). Quite frankly, I don't care if they buy PINS or the deal falls through. That's what I'm covering.</p>\n<p>Here's how the article plays out. First, I briefly discuss the news about PYPL buying PINS. Second, I explain how this improved PYPL's price for investors. Third, I describe how PINS fits into PYPL and it could be good. However, fourth, I also outline why a \"dead deal\" is also acceptable.</p>\n<p><b>The \"Shocking\" News</b></p>\n<p>If you're reading this, then you're probably already familiar with the news. As Bloomberg reports,PayPal Is Exploring a Purchase of Pinterest.</p>\n<blockquote>\n San Jose, California-based PayPal has recently approached Pinterest about a potential deal, the people said, asking not to be identified because the talks are private. The companies have discussed a potential price of around $70 a share, the people said.\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n That would value Pinterest at about $45 billion for the entire company, including its Class B shares. A deal at that level would represent about a 26% premium to Pinterest’s Tuesday closing price of $55.58.\n</blockquote>\n<p>And, as a result, here's what happened:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f0cbd27e17802078aeed4126cdf0e93d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>You might laugh that I'm showing the six month chart and that's the point. In six months, PYPL from $264 to $258, for a slight drift down. PINS is actually down about 25% over six months, from $71 to $63, for a pretty big drop. For PINS, the 13% gain today was a real gift, at least in terms of price action.</p>\n<p>Let's take another peek at this, in a much shorter timeframe. From a price perspective alone,<i>in just one day</i>, it's easy to see huge changes:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e4a27f8e192506cc9637083edd81c405\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"526\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha</span></p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa06cd8a6b48ca229a014e6c5440d294\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"557\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha</span></p>\n<p>On the surface, it sure does look like PINS is on fire and PYPL is taking a hit. But, as per my very first chart above, PINS is still weak on price, even after the movement today. And, PYPL is close to breakeven from six months ago.</p>\n<p>In an absolute sense, I care far less about PINS than PYPL, since I own PYPL and I like the company. So, there's a bias, just to be 100% clear.</p>\n<p>With that perspective out of the way, and my bias on full display, let's take a look at what this all means for investors -<i>especially PYPL investors</i>.</p>\n<p>Heads I Win, Part 1</p>\n<p>So, when the news broke, I expected a slight drop in PYPL. When I saw the drop down below $260, I got greedy. For the record, I bought more PYPL at $255.62 with a smile on my face.</p>\n<p>PYPL got cheaper but the value is the same, or better, as it was just 1-2 days ago. I'll explain more shortly. For now, just consider my point of view, which is that the price of PYPL went lower so I got more for my money. I ended up with a 5% discount because of some moderately good news. (More on that soon.)</p>\n<p>So, before going on, I strongly encourage you to review an article that I wrote back in early August 2021:PayPal: The Star Business.</p>\n<ul>\n <li>PYPL is in a high growth industry.</li>\n <li>PYPL commands significant market share.</li>\n <li>PYPL is growing very fast.</li>\n <li>PYPL is innovating like crazy.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Furthermore, I was very clear:</p>\n<blockquote>\n I'm very bullish on PYPL below $250 and I'm bullish at $275. And, in fact, I've established a starter position recently at $275. I'll continue to add small amounts on the way down, if that happens.\n</blockquote>\n<p>Therefore, at $255, I feel very good about buying more PYPL. It's high quality, well managed business, in a rapidly growing market. In short, when the price dropped about 5%,<i>it simply meant getting more PYPL at a discount</i>.</p>\n<p><b>Tails I Win</b></p>\n<p>Now, let's suppose that the PINS deal falls through. In that case, I am happy because I was able to purchase more PYPL at a lower price. Again, same company, but a better bargain.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, let's assume the deal falls through and markets reflect on this. It's my feeling that investors will simply reprice PYPL back upwards, toward $270 to $275, or higher.</p>\n<p>I have no idea how long that \"rerating\" would take, but there's no reason to think that an offer to buy PINS would permanently impair PYPL. I just don't see it. Making an offer doesn't usually cause any real damage. If you have data otherwise, please offer it up.</p>\n<p><b>Heads I Win, Part 2</b></p>\n<p>With all of that out of the way, perhaps PINS is a good company, and it's good for PYPL. Well, on the surface, I like what I see here:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4128074a4ab4bea3095477286834fe0c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"502\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Business of Apps</span></p>\n<p>And, the user base is growing strongly, although Q2 2021 took a dip:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa2dc758204cd1b7173cfdc68b4af6f5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"510\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Business of Apps</span></p>\n<p>Here's more color on that drop:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3819d2ba7bf53060011a2edb152ce91f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"357\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Pinterest Q2 2021 Earnings Report</span></p>\n<p>The drop doesn't worry me too much. After all, Pinterest enjoyed a boost due to the stay-at-home, work-from-home effects of the pandemic. Furthermore, you can see the actual YoY numbers, quarter to quarter, and they are at least satisfactory.</p>\n<p>For what it's worth, PINS CEO Benjamin Silbermann&nbsp;explains the drop off&nbsp;it quite well:</p>\n<blockquote>\n One, overall time at home has shifted. And two, a lot of the use cases that were especially relevant last year, things like redecorating your home, educating your kid at home, cooking meals at home, those have lessened. Now it's early to say how those will normalize over time. I wouldn't describe the current user behavior or the current social environment exactly the same, but we're seeing some promising early signs.\n</blockquote>\n<p>That perfectly lines up with my intuition as well.<i>Moving on.</i></p>\n<p>I'm also enjoying this data, properly broken out for inspection:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/64c5df28f93bef395b5a99aa6914b196\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"344\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: Pinterest Q2 2021 Earnings Report</span></p>\n<p>While I do care about the numbers, and the improvements over time, I'm more interested in what PYPL might see here. That is, users have value, because users are shopping and buying. Imagine if PYPL was able to push more e-commerce, or really any kind of transaction, through these users. Clearly, they spend money.</p>\n<p>Consider the&nbsp;usage, adoption and general activity flow:</p>\n<blockquote>\n “If PayPal does buy Pinterest, the fintech gains a social media presence rivaling Instagram, bringing in highly engaged consumers and helping merchants sell products,” said Julie Chariell, Bloomberg Intelligence senior fintech industry analyst. “PayPal has much to gain: Pinterest has&nbsp;\n <b>380 million monthly active users who use the app 37 times a month, compared with 80 million PayPal users who are active eight to nine times a month</b>.” [Emphasis: Author's]\n</blockquote>\n<p>User activity is wonderful. Now, imagine how user activity isn't just looking at funny cat videos or pictures of the Grand Canyon. Instead, the activity on Pinterest is very heavy on browsing-to-buy, and<i>literally shopping</i>. I mean, that's almost entirely the point from what I gather.The data speaks volumes:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>Nearly 80% of U.S. Millennial women are on Pinterest.</li>\n <li>4 in 5 U.S. moms have an active presence on Pinterest.</li>\n <li>Half of U.S. users are also using Pinterest to shop.</li>\n <li>Nearly 9 in 10 users are on Pinterest to plan purchases and find inspiration.</li>\n <li>85% of users have made a purchase based on seeing a branded pin.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>And, PINS is looking to continue down the&nbsp;user monetization path.</p>\n<blockquote>\n “Pinterest has been intently focused on driving greater shoppability into its platform,” and he notes that product inventory grew almost 50% in the second quarter “driven by Pinterest’s Shopify partnership expansion.”\n</blockquote>\n<p>And, I have heard plenty of people talk about PYPL's plans to expand their user base, since they have a relatively easy monetization path if they have the users.For example:</p>\n<blockquote>\n PayPal has over 400 million registered users, and they are the customers, but they're also the product going forward because PayPal also has over 30 million merchants on its platform and one of its main goals right now,\n <b>it's trying to grow its user base, it's trying to get 750 million users by 2025</b>. But it's trying to get them to transact more and more on the platform, that's why it's launching these new products and services like buy now, pay later; cryptocurrency; things like this. It wants to basically know all of the transactions, all the financial dealings of its consumers, because then it can take that data and give it to merchants. [Emphasis: Author's]\n</blockquote>\n<p>I definitely see how PYPL could help take PINS social e-commerce to the next level, and even more effectively partner with Shopify (SHOP) along the way. As I've said to several people now -<i>I don't hate this deal</i>, and that's usually a good sign.</p>\n<p><b>Tails I Win, Part 2</b></p>\n<p>At this point, per the data above, you might be very keen to see PYPL buying PINS. I am certainly not against it, knowing what I know. PINS users are rather fanatical, and I could see great synergy. It almost reminds me of how PYPL and eBay (EBAY) were once under one roof. But, I think PINS is far superior in this day and age. That is, PYPL is better off with PINS than EBAY at this point in time - I have no doubt about that in my mind.</p>\n<p>I should also mention that&nbsp;the price is better now&nbsp;than when Microsoft (MSFT) was considering a deal:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Price tag–wise,\n <b>Pinterest’s stock is off roughly 30% from its all-time high</b>&nbsp;in February as the platform has been losing users—a discount from when reports swirled that Microsoft was looking into buying the firm at around $51 billion early this year. [Emphasis: Author's]\n</blockquote>\n<p>Even if the deal falls through, I still see the conversations as being productive, and I still see some partnership activity increasing in the future. You don't need to be married to dance at the party.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, I don't like big deals, but I do like intelligent conversations. Put another way, PYPL is looking to spend $45 billion for PINS. That's huge. And it's&nbsp;messy:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Barclays’ El-Assal commented that a deal for Pinterest would be the biggest one that PayPal has attempted in its history and “\n <b>would necessitate a different mix of funding than just cash on hand</b>, as has been the case for previous acquisitions.” [Emphasis: Author's]\n</blockquote>\n<p>And...</p>\n<blockquote>\n It would be the biggest acquisition of a social media company, surpassing Microsoft Corp's $26.2 billion purchase of LinkedIn in 2016.\n</blockquote>\n<p>They can't just buy it with cash. This isn't a simple \"bolt on\" for PYPL. And, if it fails, quite honestly, I'll cheer a little because the research is against big M&amp;A. According to the<i>Harvard Business Review</i>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n ...study after study puts the failure rate of mergers and acquisitions somewhere between 70% and 90%.\n</blockquote>\n<p><b>Wrap-Up</b></p>\n<p>I hope a few things are clear. First, I'm bullish on PYPL and I'm happy to be buying at prices around $250. I'm even willing to buy up to $275, but I'll take a lower price, of course. (Thank you for any discount.)</p>\n<p>Second,<i>I do see how PINS could be a great purchase for PYPL</i>. It fits their mission for user growth, and general business growth. The revenue and user monetization opportunity is intriguing, if not excellent. Furthermore, the user base itself likes to shop and buy, which is perfect for PYPL.</p>\n<p>Third, if the deal does not go through, then I won't be shocked, and I won't be sad. The price for PINS seems about right, and it might even be at a slight discount - especially in its potential long-term value to PYPL. But, if talks fail, it won't cause me to skip a beat, or lose faith in PYPL whatsoever. And, in fact, I might even feel relief. Again,<i>Godzilla-size M&amp;A doesn't have a great record</i>.</p>\n<p>And, finally, the biggest risk that I see is quite simple. Namely, that PYPL decides to raise the offer price, higher and higher. Right now, the price is acceptable as a PYPL shareholder. But, if the price tag keeps going up, for whatever reason, then I'll be much less enthusiastic. In fact, if the offer price goes up too much, I might have to revise my entire PYPL thesis. Poor capital allocation is deadly. I want a great deal, or no deal. 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Quite frankly, I don't care if they buy PINS or the deal falls through. That's what I'm covering.\nHere's how the article plays out. First, I briefly discuss the news about PYPL buying PINS. Second, I explain how this improved PYPL's price for investors. Third, I describe how PINS fits into PYPL and it could be good. However, fourth, I also outline why a \"dead deal\" is also acceptable.\nThe \"Shocking\" News\nIf you're reading this, then you're probably already familiar with the news. As Bloomberg reports,PayPal Is Exploring a Purchase of Pinterest.\n\n San Jose, California-based PayPal has recently approached Pinterest about a potential deal, the people said, asking not to be identified because the talks are private. The companies have discussed a potential price of around $70 a share, the people said.\n\n\n That would value Pinterest at about $45 billion for the entire company, including its Class B shares. A deal at that level would represent about a 26% premium to Pinterest’s Tuesday closing price of $55.58.\n\nAnd, as a result, here's what happened:\nData by YCharts\nYou might laugh that I'm showing the six month chart and that's the point. In six months, PYPL from $264 to $258, for a slight drift down. PINS is actually down about 25% over six months, from $71 to $63, for a pretty big drop. For PINS, the 13% gain today was a real gift, at least in terms of price action.\nLet's take another peek at this, in a much shorter timeframe. From a price perspective alone,in just one day, it's easy to see huge changes:\nSource: Seeking Alpha\nSource: Seeking Alpha\nOn the surface, it sure does look like PINS is on fire and PYPL is taking a hit. But, as per my very first chart above, PINS is still weak on price, even after the movement today. And, PYPL is close to breakeven from six months ago.\nIn an absolute sense, I care far less about PINS than PYPL, since I own PYPL and I like the company. So, there's a bias, just to be 100% clear.\nWith that perspective out of the way, and my bias on full display, let's take a look at what this all means for investors -especially PYPL investors.\nHeads I Win, Part 1\nSo, when the news broke, I expected a slight drop in PYPL. When I saw the drop down below $260, I got greedy. For the record, I bought more PYPL at $255.62 with a smile on my face.\nPYPL got cheaper but the value is the same, or better, as it was just 1-2 days ago. I'll explain more shortly. For now, just consider my point of view, which is that the price of PYPL went lower so I got more for my money. I ended up with a 5% discount because of some moderately good news. (More on that soon.)\nSo, before going on, I strongly encourage you to review an article that I wrote back in early August 2021:PayPal: The Star Business.\n\nPYPL is in a high growth industry.\nPYPL commands significant market share.\nPYPL is growing very fast.\nPYPL is innovating like crazy.\n\nFurthermore, I was very clear:\n\n I'm very bullish on PYPL below $250 and I'm bullish at $275. And, in fact, I've established a starter position recently at $275. I'll continue to add small amounts on the way down, if that happens.\n\nTherefore, at $255, I feel very good about buying more PYPL. It's high quality, well managed business, in a rapidly growing market. In short, when the price dropped about 5%,it simply meant getting more PYPL at a discount.\nTails I Win\nNow, let's suppose that the PINS deal falls through. In that case, I am happy because I was able to purchase more PYPL at a lower price. Again, same company, but a better bargain.\nFurthermore, let's assume the deal falls through and markets reflect on this. It's my feeling that investors will simply reprice PYPL back upwards, toward $270 to $275, or higher.\nI have no idea how long that \"rerating\" would take, but there's no reason to think that an offer to buy PINS would permanently impair PYPL. I just don't see it. Making an offer doesn't usually cause any real damage. If you have data otherwise, please offer it up.\nHeads I Win, Part 2\nWith all of that out of the way, perhaps PINS is a good company, and it's good for PYPL. Well, on the surface, I like what I see here:\nSource: Business of Apps\nAnd, the user base is growing strongly, although Q2 2021 took a dip:\nSource: Business of Apps\nHere's more color on that drop:\nSource: Pinterest Q2 2021 Earnings Report\nThe drop doesn't worry me too much. After all, Pinterest enjoyed a boost due to the stay-at-home, work-from-home effects of the pandemic. Furthermore, you can see the actual YoY numbers, quarter to quarter, and they are at least satisfactory.\nFor what it's worth, PINS CEO Benjamin Silbermann explains the drop off it quite well:\n\n One, overall time at home has shifted. And two, a lot of the use cases that were especially relevant last year, things like redecorating your home, educating your kid at home, cooking meals at home, those have lessened. Now it's early to say how those will normalize over time. I wouldn't describe the current user behavior or the current social environment exactly the same, but we're seeing some promising early signs.\n\nThat perfectly lines up with my intuition as well.Moving on.\nI'm also enjoying this data, properly broken out for inspection:\nSource: Pinterest Q2 2021 Earnings Report\nWhile I do care about the numbers, and the improvements over time, I'm more interested in what PYPL might see here. That is, users have value, because users are shopping and buying. Imagine if PYPL was able to push more e-commerce, or really any kind of transaction, through these users. Clearly, they spend money.\nConsider the usage, adoption and general activity flow:\n\n “If PayPal does buy Pinterest, the fintech gains a social media presence rivaling Instagram, bringing in highly engaged consumers and helping merchants sell products,” said Julie Chariell, Bloomberg Intelligence senior fintech industry analyst. “PayPal has much to gain: Pinterest has \n 380 million monthly active users who use the app 37 times a month, compared with 80 million PayPal users who are active eight to nine times a month.” [Emphasis: Author's]\n\nUser activity is wonderful. Now, imagine how user activity isn't just looking at funny cat videos or pictures of the Grand Canyon. Instead, the activity on Pinterest is very heavy on browsing-to-buy, andliterally shopping. I mean, that's almost entirely the point from what I gather.The data speaks volumes:\n\nNearly 80% of U.S. Millennial women are on Pinterest.\n4 in 5 U.S. moms have an active presence on Pinterest.\nHalf of U.S. users are also using Pinterest to shop.\nNearly 9 in 10 users are on Pinterest to plan purchases and find inspiration.\n85% of users have made a purchase based on seeing a branded pin.\n\nAnd, PINS is looking to continue down the user monetization path.\n\n “Pinterest has been intently focused on driving greater shoppability into its platform,” and he notes that product inventory grew almost 50% in the second quarter “driven by Pinterest’s Shopify partnership expansion.”\n\nAnd, I have heard plenty of people talk about PYPL's plans to expand their user base, since they have a relatively easy monetization path if they have the users.For example:\n\n PayPal has over 400 million registered users, and they are the customers, but they're also the product going forward because PayPal also has over 30 million merchants on its platform and one of its main goals right now,\n it's trying to grow its user base, it's trying to get 750 million users by 2025. But it's trying to get them to transact more and more on the platform, that's why it's launching these new products and services like buy now, pay later; cryptocurrency; things like this. It wants to basically know all of the transactions, all the financial dealings of its consumers, because then it can take that data and give it to merchants. [Emphasis: Author's]\n\nI definitely see how PYPL could help take PINS social e-commerce to the next level, and even more effectively partner with Shopify (SHOP) along the way. As I've said to several people now -I don't hate this deal, and that's usually a good sign.\nTails I Win, Part 2\nAt this point, per the data above, you might be very keen to see PYPL buying PINS. I am certainly not against it, knowing what I know. PINS users are rather fanatical, and I could see great synergy. It almost reminds me of how PYPL and eBay (EBAY) were once under one roof. But, I think PINS is far superior in this day and age. That is, PYPL is better off with PINS than EBAY at this point in time - I have no doubt about that in my mind.\nI should also mention that the price is better now than when Microsoft (MSFT) was considering a deal:\n\n Price tag–wise,\n Pinterest’s stock is off roughly 30% from its all-time high in February as the platform has been losing users—a discount from when reports swirled that Microsoft was looking into buying the firm at around $51 billion early this year. [Emphasis: Author's]\n\nEven if the deal falls through, I still see the conversations as being productive, and I still see some partnership activity increasing in the future. You don't need to be married to dance at the party.\nFurthermore, I don't like big deals, but I do like intelligent conversations. Put another way, PYPL is looking to spend $45 billion for PINS. That's huge. And it's messy:\n\n Barclays’ El-Assal commented that a deal for Pinterest would be the biggest one that PayPal has attempted in its history and “\n would necessitate a different mix of funding than just cash on hand, as has been the case for previous acquisitions.” [Emphasis: Author's]\n\nAnd...\n\n It would be the biggest acquisition of a social media company, surpassing Microsoft Corp's $26.2 billion purchase of LinkedIn in 2016.\n\nThey can't just buy it with cash. This isn't a simple \"bolt on\" for PYPL. And, if it fails, quite honestly, I'll cheer a little because the research is against big M&A. According to theHarvard Business Review:\n\n ...study after study puts the failure rate of mergers and acquisitions somewhere between 70% and 90%.\n\nWrap-Up\nI hope a few things are clear. First, I'm bullish on PYPL and I'm happy to be buying at prices around $250. I'm even willing to buy up to $275, but I'll take a lower price, of course. (Thank you for any discount.)\nSecond,I do see how PINS could be a great purchase for PYPL. It fits their mission for user growth, and general business growth. The revenue and user monetization opportunity is intriguing, if not excellent. Furthermore, the user base itself likes to shop and buy, which is perfect for PYPL.\nThird, if the deal does not go through, then I won't be shocked, and I won't be sad. The price for PINS seems about right, and it might even be at a slight discount - especially in its potential long-term value to PYPL. But, if talks fail, it won't cause me to skip a beat, or lose faith in PYPL whatsoever. And, in fact, I might even feel relief. Again,Godzilla-size M&A doesn't have a great record.\nAnd, finally, the biggest risk that I see is quite simple. Namely, that PYPL decides to raise the offer price, higher and higher. Right now, the price is acceptable as a PYPL shareholder. But, if the price tag keeps going up, for whatever reason, then I'll be much less enthusiastic. In fact, if the offer price goes up too much, I might have to revise my entire PYPL thesis. Poor capital allocation is deadly. I want a great deal, or no deal. 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But news that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. was preparing its&nbsp;biggest price hike in a decade&nbsp;still came as a shock to some, bringing home just how entrenched chip price inflation has become.</p>\n<p>TSMC controls over half the global foundry market, making chips for the likes of Apple, Nvidia and Qualcomm. Known for its cutting-edge tech and high quality, the Taiwanese company normally commands production fees around 20% higher than its rivals, according to industry insiders.</p>\n<p>Since the end of last year, however, smaller foundries have repeatedly ramped up their own prices, so that United Microelectronics, the world's No. 3 player, now charges more than its bigger compatriot for some services, four industry executives told Nikkei Asia.</p>\n<p>These higher prices stem from a range of factors, including higher material and logistics costs as well as the race by device makers to secure adequate chip supplies, that have emerged since the chip shortage first began to bite late last year.</p>\n<p>TSMC has been slower than most other chip companies in raising its prices, in part because it already enjoyed such a hefty premium. But with investment costs also rising -- the company has pledged $100 billion in spending over the next three years -- the chip giant felt compelled to&nbsp;pass on some of the burden, sources briefed on the matter said.</p>\n<p>More urgently, industry sources say, the company is keen to weed out so-called double-booking, in which clients place orders for more chips than they actually need in hopes of securing production line space and support from contract chipmakers amid the global supply crunch. This, in turn, has made it difficult for TSMC to grasp the \"real demand\" picture, sources briefed on the matter told Nikkei.</p>\n<p>Client reactions to the planned price rise are mixed.</p>\n<p>\"We are glad that TSMC eventually adjusted prices so that it could fend off the practice of double-booking, when industry players race to secure enough chip production capacity during a shortage,\" K.S. Pua, chairman and CEO of Phison Electronics, told Nikkei. The leading NAND flash controller chip and solution provider is a client of both TSMC and UMC.</p>\n<p>\"We are still short of supplies and want more chip capacity to support our growth for the second half of 2021,\" Pua said.</p>\n<p>Phison raised its own chip prices around April this year to reflect the rising supply chain costs, and Pua said his company will have discussions with clients about further increases.</p>\n<p>Others, however, have expressed concern over whether they will be able to pass on these higher costs to customers.</p>\n<p>\"We are all in a great shock and all of our account managers need to speak to our customers to see if we can renegotiate some of the contracts,\" a chip executive told Nikkei. \"We haven't seen TSMC introduce such a broad rate increase in over a decade.\"</p>\n<p>The impact of TSMC's price will be felt more obviously from next year, analysts say, as the company is still working through existing orders. Customers will also negotiate their own specific terms with TSMC before Oct. 1, when the price hikes officially take effect, they said.</p>\n<p>Overall chip prices, however, have already surged.</p>\n<p>According to Dale Gai, research director of Counterpoint Research, chip developers are paying 40% higher production fees for legacy chips that are in the shortest supply.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/201b6c1300dd3cb3b2a783df4cf2a849\" tg-width=\"770\" tg-height=\"788\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Electronics makers, meanwhile, face even steeper increases as they try to source enough chips to complete their devices. The price of some microcontroller chips, for example, has jumped from $0.20 each to more than $1, supply chain executives and distributors told Nikkei -- a 400% increase in less than a year.</p>\n<p>The reason is that these chips, while not necessarily the most important part of a smartphone or server, are still essential and not easily replaced. Such chips can also be stockpiled more easily than, say, CPUs, which quickly become obsolete, so anyone who has extra inventory can name their price if they find a buyer in need.</p>\n<p>Prices have risen in just about every step of the chip supply chain, from basic materials to chip packing and testing services -- the last step before chips are mounted on printed circuit boards.</p>\n<p>For top chip developers that outsource production -- namely Qualcomm, Nvidia, MediaTek and Advanced Micro Devices -- this translated to an increase in \"cost of sales\" in 2020, according to a Nikkei analysis. Defined as the total cost of production, materials and delivery of goods, cost of sales continued to surge in the first half of 2021.</p>\n<p>Mobile chip giant Qualcomm's accumulated cost of sales from last October until June this year jumped nearly 60% on the year, while that of MediaTek, its key Asia rival, increased more than 64% for the same period. Both Qualcomm and MediaTek's revenue surged even more during the period, however, indicating they have adjusted the selling prices of their chips, which are used by the world's major smartphone makers.</p>\n<p>Industry players and analysts predict strong chip demand -- and thus higher prices -- to continue into next year.</p>\n<p>Doris Hsu, chair and CEO of Globalwafers, the world's third-largest wafer material maker, said the price of wafers -- the essential substrate that all chips are fabricated on -- is set to go up.</p>\n<p>\"Materials and chemicals used in production and transportation logistics costs are all on the rise,\" Hsu said. \"That means we have to adjust the selling price of our wafers, otherwise our profit margin could be affected.\"</p>\n<p>Peter Hanbury, a partner specializing in chip and tech supply chain at Bain &amp; Co., told Nikkei chip prices will likely rise into next year due to the time it takes to expand production capacity.</p>\n<p>Chip developers such as Qualcomm, NXP and Nvidia, he added, will likely negotiate to pass these price increases onto their own customers -- namely device makers and electronics builders such as Apple, Samsung, Xiaomi, HP, Dell and Ford.</p>\n<p>\"[For] products like smartphones and PCs, the price increases will be more noticeable, while for other devices with limited semiconductor content you may not even notice,\" Hanbury said, referring to the retail prices.</p>\n<p>Gai, of Counterpoint Research, said the rising cost of chips may even impact smartphone makers' business strategies.</p>\n<p>\"The net profit margin for smartphone makers excluding Apple is only about 5% to 10%. In that case, the rising chip costs will definitely push all the industry players to roll out higher-end handset models for next year to offset the cost impacts rather than focus on midrange or lower-end phones,\" he said.</p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the race to develop cutting-edge technologies is also expected to keep chip prices high for the long term, particularly the more advanced offerings.</p>\n<p>\"Advanced chip production, such as 7-nanometer, 5-nanometer and future 3-nanometer, is extremely expensive,\" Mark Li, a veteran semiconductor analyst with Sanford C. Bernstein, told Nikkei. \"Only TSMC, Samsung and Intel could afford the investment. I am not going to say those advanced chip prices will never fall, but it's not easy for them to go down much given the scale of the investment,\" Li said.</p>\n<p>For smaller players and for more mature production technology, Li said the market \"could be more volatile once there is an economic slowdown. The correction could be quite substantial and quick, too.\"</p>\n<p>Li said the most important factor in determining prices, however, is the same as always: demand.</p>\n<p>\"Chip plants operate like airlines. Airlines must shoulder fixed costs even if there are only one or two passengers on board. Chipmaking plants are the same. If the demand slows, they have to lower prices to lure more clients and maintain utilization rates.\"</p>\n<p>TSMC told Nikkei that it will not comment on pricing adjustment but referred to CEO C.C. Wei's statement during an earnings briefing in July, when he said, \"TSMC's pricing strategy is strategic, not opportunistic. At the same time, we face manufacturing cost challenges due to increasing process complexity at leading node, new investment in mature nodes, expansion of our global manufacturing footprint and rising materials and basic commodities cost. Therefore, we are firming up our wafer pricing.\"</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Chip prices set to rise into 2022 as TSMC hikes rates</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nChip prices set to rise into 2022 as TSMC hikes rates\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-09-07 08:24 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Chip-prices-set-to-rise-into-2022-as-TSMC-hikes-rates><strong>Nikkei Asia</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Semiconductor and electronics prices are set to rise absent major economic slowdowns\nTSMC's move to raise its fees for chip production services took many in the industry by surprise. © AFP/Jiji\nTAIPEI...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Chip-prices-set-to-rise-into-2022-as-TSMC-hikes-rates\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSM":"台积电","NVDA":"英伟达","AMD":"美国超微公司","QCOM":"高通","AAPL":"苹果","UMC":"联电"},"source_url":"https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Chip-prices-set-to-rise-into-2022-as-TSMC-hikes-rates","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1113754693","content_text":"Semiconductor and electronics prices are set to rise absent major economic slowdowns\nTSMC's move to raise its fees for chip production services took many in the industry by surprise. © AFP/Jiji\nTAIPEI/HSINCHU, Taiwan -- The price of chips -- and the electronic devices they power -- are on track to rise into 2022 as the world's biggest contract chipmaker joins its rivals in ramping up production fees.\nPrices of semiconductors have been climbing since the last quarter of 2020 amid a global supply crunch. But news that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. was preparing its biggest price hike in a decade still came as a shock to some, bringing home just how entrenched chip price inflation has become.\nTSMC controls over half the global foundry market, making chips for the likes of Apple, Nvidia and Qualcomm. Known for its cutting-edge tech and high quality, the Taiwanese company normally commands production fees around 20% higher than its rivals, according to industry insiders.\nSince the end of last year, however, smaller foundries have repeatedly ramped up their own prices, so that United Microelectronics, the world's No. 3 player, now charges more than its bigger compatriot for some services, four industry executives told Nikkei Asia.\nThese higher prices stem from a range of factors, including higher material and logistics costs as well as the race by device makers to secure adequate chip supplies, that have emerged since the chip shortage first began to bite late last year.\nTSMC has been slower than most other chip companies in raising its prices, in part because it already enjoyed such a hefty premium. But with investment costs also rising -- the company has pledged $100 billion in spending over the next three years -- the chip giant felt compelled to pass on some of the burden, sources briefed on the matter said.\nMore urgently, industry sources say, the company is keen to weed out so-called double-booking, in which clients place orders for more chips than they actually need in hopes of securing production line space and support from contract chipmakers amid the global supply crunch. This, in turn, has made it difficult for TSMC to grasp the \"real demand\" picture, sources briefed on the matter told Nikkei.\nClient reactions to the planned price rise are mixed.\n\"We are glad that TSMC eventually adjusted prices so that it could fend off the practice of double-booking, when industry players race to secure enough chip production capacity during a shortage,\" K.S. Pua, chairman and CEO of Phison Electronics, told Nikkei. The leading NAND flash controller chip and solution provider is a client of both TSMC and UMC.\n\"We are still short of supplies and want more chip capacity to support our growth for the second half of 2021,\" Pua said.\nPhison raised its own chip prices around April this year to reflect the rising supply chain costs, and Pua said his company will have discussions with clients about further increases.\nOthers, however, have expressed concern over whether they will be able to pass on these higher costs to customers.\n\"We are all in a great shock and all of our account managers need to speak to our customers to see if we can renegotiate some of the contracts,\" a chip executive told Nikkei. \"We haven't seen TSMC introduce such a broad rate increase in over a decade.\"\nThe impact of TSMC's price will be felt more obviously from next year, analysts say, as the company is still working through existing orders. Customers will also negotiate their own specific terms with TSMC before Oct. 1, when the price hikes officially take effect, they said.\nOverall chip prices, however, have already surged.\nAccording to Dale Gai, research director of Counterpoint Research, chip developers are paying 40% higher production fees for legacy chips that are in the shortest supply.\n\nElectronics makers, meanwhile, face even steeper increases as they try to source enough chips to complete their devices. The price of some microcontroller chips, for example, has jumped from $0.20 each to more than $1, supply chain executives and distributors told Nikkei -- a 400% increase in less than a year.\nThe reason is that these chips, while not necessarily the most important part of a smartphone or server, are still essential and not easily replaced. Such chips can also be stockpiled more easily than, say, CPUs, which quickly become obsolete, so anyone who has extra inventory can name their price if they find a buyer in need.\nPrices have risen in just about every step of the chip supply chain, from basic materials to chip packing and testing services -- the last step before chips are mounted on printed circuit boards.\nFor top chip developers that outsource production -- namely Qualcomm, Nvidia, MediaTek and Advanced Micro Devices -- this translated to an increase in \"cost of sales\" in 2020, according to a Nikkei analysis. Defined as the total cost of production, materials and delivery of goods, cost of sales continued to surge in the first half of 2021.\nMobile chip giant Qualcomm's accumulated cost of sales from last October until June this year jumped nearly 60% on the year, while that of MediaTek, its key Asia rival, increased more than 64% for the same period. Both Qualcomm and MediaTek's revenue surged even more during the period, however, indicating they have adjusted the selling prices of their chips, which are used by the world's major smartphone makers.\nIndustry players and analysts predict strong chip demand -- and thus higher prices -- to continue into next year.\nDoris Hsu, chair and CEO of Globalwafers, the world's third-largest wafer material maker, said the price of wafers -- the essential substrate that all chips are fabricated on -- is set to go up.\n\"Materials and chemicals used in production and transportation logistics costs are all on the rise,\" Hsu said. \"That means we have to adjust the selling price of our wafers, otherwise our profit margin could be affected.\"\nPeter Hanbury, a partner specializing in chip and tech supply chain at Bain & Co., told Nikkei chip prices will likely rise into next year due to the time it takes to expand production capacity.\nChip developers such as Qualcomm, NXP and Nvidia, he added, will likely negotiate to pass these price increases onto their own customers -- namely device makers and electronics builders such as Apple, Samsung, Xiaomi, HP, Dell and Ford.\n\"[For] products like smartphones and PCs, the price increases will be more noticeable, while for other devices with limited semiconductor content you may not even notice,\" Hanbury said, referring to the retail prices.\nGai, of Counterpoint Research, said the rising cost of chips may even impact smartphone makers' business strategies.\n\"The net profit margin for smartphone makers excluding Apple is only about 5% to 10%. In that case, the rising chip costs will definitely push all the industry players to roll out higher-end handset models for next year to offset the cost impacts rather than focus on midrange or lower-end phones,\" he said.\nMeanwhile, the race to develop cutting-edge technologies is also expected to keep chip prices high for the long term, particularly the more advanced offerings.\n\"Advanced chip production, such as 7-nanometer, 5-nanometer and future 3-nanometer, is extremely expensive,\" Mark Li, a veteran semiconductor analyst with Sanford C. Bernstein, told Nikkei. \"Only TSMC, Samsung and Intel could afford the investment. I am not going to say those advanced chip prices will never fall, but it's not easy for them to go down much given the scale of the investment,\" Li said.\nFor smaller players and for more mature production technology, Li said the market \"could be more volatile once there is an economic slowdown. The correction could be quite substantial and quick, too.\"\nLi said the most important factor in determining prices, however, is the same as always: demand.\n\"Chip plants operate like airlines. Airlines must shoulder fixed costs even if there are only one or two passengers on board. Chipmaking plants are the same. If the demand slows, they have to lower prices to lure more clients and maintain utilization rates.\"\nTSMC told Nikkei that it will not comment on pricing adjustment but referred to CEO C.C. Wei's statement during an earnings briefing in July, when he said, \"TSMC's pricing strategy is strategic, not opportunistic. At the same time, we face manufacturing cost challenges due to increasing process complexity at leading node, new investment in mature nodes, expansion of our global manufacturing footprint and rising materials and basic commodities cost. Therefore, we are firming up our wafer pricing.\"","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AAPL":0.9,"AMD":0.9,"NVDA":0.9,"QCOM":0.9,"TSM":0.9,"UMC":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2229,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":815383811,"gmtCreate":1630644161633,"gmtModify":1631890506209,"author":{"id":"3570852047190387","authorId":"3570852047190387","name":"tyng8825","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/96881c116505f25bd9b7404b76c5e06d","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3570852047190387","authorIdStr":"3570852047190387"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Tell me your opinion about this news...","listText":"Tell me your opinion about this news...","text":"Tell me your opinion about this news...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/815383811","repostId":"2164829818","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2159,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":false}