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- 我是虎虎虎我是虎虎虎
  ·07-25
  看不到预期还买什么股票，只看基本面大A至少还有十倍增长空间，你买吗？
  特斯拉还要跌60%？汇丰：撑起高估值的Robotaxi有三大“硬伤”
  汇丰认为，特斯拉的Robotaxi业务面临技术验证、消费者习惯改变和盈利能力证明三大根本挑战。叠加汽车业务业绩下滑和人形机器人进展缓慢，汇丰大幅下调特斯拉业绩预期，维持“减持”评级，目标价为120美元，较目前股价有超过60%的下跌空间。
  特斯拉还要跌60%？汇丰：撑起高估值的Robotaxi有三大“硬伤”
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- 我是虎虎虎我是虎虎虎
  ·2024-04-13
  华尔街的南郭先生也很多
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- 我是虎虎虎我是虎虎虎
  ·2023-01-04
  苹果这不就是个卖手机的吗？凭什么值两万亿美元呢？特斯拉咋说还是一辆大的多的汽车，做空的人有一万个理由声讨，信了的也就是时刻被割的韭菜。
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- 我是虎虎虎我是虎虎虎
  ·2022-10-04
  屎一样的文章
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justify;\">研报指出，特斯拉连续三个季度未能达到市场预期的EBIT，实际上这是12个季度中第11次业绩不及预期。管理层警告未来几个季度仍将面临挑战，而被市场寄予厚望的Robotaxi业务能否如愿支撑股价，存在重大疑问。</p><h2 id=\"id_2577450297\" style=\"text-align: left;\">Robotaxi三大关键挑战：技术、消费习惯与盈利能力</h2><p style=\"text-align: left;\">报告指出，特斯拉Robotaxi业务的规模化成功需满足三个核心前提条件，而每一个条件都面临重大挑战：</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>1. 技术可靠性存疑</strong>：特斯拉需要证明其纯视觉（camera-only）方案在鲁棒性（抗干扰能力）和可靠性上不逊于行业普遍采用的多传感器融合方案。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\">而根据汇丰的报告，奥斯汀试点的早期迹象并不乐观。报告指出，奥斯汀的Robotaxi试点已积累了约7,000英里的行驶里程，仅涉及少量车辆。如果按照平均每次行程4英里计算（与Waymo相同），这相当于每辆车每天仅完成11次行程，不到Waymo车辆的一半。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>2. 消费者行为转变困难</strong>：Robotaxi若要从公共交通的替代品发展为普及应用，需要消费者放弃私家车所有权观念，这被汇丰报告形容为“一个巨大的挑战”。报告强调，这“不是一个小要求”，涉及到根深蒂固的消费者习惯变革。</p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>3. 盈利能力证明缺失</strong>：特斯拉需要证明其Robotaxi业务能够盈利，而这似乎在公司内部也存在争议。汇丰报告指出，作为参照，Waymo在2024年进行了约60亿美元的股权融资，这表明其距离盈利尚有距离。</p><h2 id=\"id_759946975\" style=\"text-align: left;\">汽车业务业绩下滑，自动驾驶和人形机器人进展缓慢</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">报告还指出，特斯拉汽车业务面临多重结构性挑战：产品线老化、市场竞争加剧、品牌形象受损，以及连续多季度业绩未达市场预期。关税和美国电动汽车激励措施的结束将进一步影响需求。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">尽管马斯克多次表示自动驾驶和人形机器人最终将使特斯拉成为世界上最有价值的公司。但其实际进展有限：</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Robotaxi进展缓慢</strong>：奥斯汀试点项目成果有限。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Optimus人形机器人重新设计</strong>：马斯克表示Optimus设计正在从2.5版本升级到3.0（完全新设计），预计5年内月产能可达10万台——虽然增长迅速，但远低于此前暗示的数十亿台规模。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">汇丰表示，交付的时间和规模是他们的首要担忧。</p><h2 id=\"id_1587848148\">特斯拉业绩承压，汇丰维持“减持”评级</h2><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">汇丰对特斯拉2025-2027年的营收预期下调1-3%，毛利润预期下调3-7%，营业收入预期大幅下调16-27%。分析师指出，特斯拉的自动化汽车面临结构性问题——产品组合老化、竞争加剧以及品牌问题继续拖累销量。</p><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">值得注意的是，汇丰将2025年和2026年的运营利润预测分别下调了27%和23%，目前预测水平比一年前低约66%。该行对特斯拉短期盈利能力的看法日益悲观。</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d7f403f2302c47d14683b91c04cc7bb4\" tg-width=\"952\" tg-height=\"341\"/></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img 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