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perxuni
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2025-12-19
说说你对这篇新闻的看法...
盘前异动|加密货币概念股集体走强,BitMine涨超7%;耐克暴跌10%!Q2净利暴跌32%
12月19日,$甲骨文(ORCL)$盘前涨近6%!TikTok美国方案曝光,甲骨文等3家投资者入股成立新公司;此外,与OpenAI在密歇根州数据中心电力供应获批。
盘前异动|加密货币概念股集体走强,BitMine涨超7%;耐克暴跌10%!Q2净利暴跌32%
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2025-12-12
甲骨文采取让客户自带显卡的方式等措施,使得甲骨文不用大笔举债购买显卡然后再租赁,甲骨文高管的意思负债将远低于投行预测的1000亿,目前只是因为接了META等大公司暴增1000多亿的RPO需要先期垫资建设面临资金压力,分散确都是信用可靠的大公司而非像OPENAI这样的初创公司,履约能力不用担心
甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!
甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的自由现金流亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。
甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!
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2025-12-12
这篇文章引用的数据和时效性有很大问题!比如OPENAI已经发公告了解除红色警戒,还有债务1000亿那是投行预测到2027年的时候,目前不多,而且甲骨文高管也在财报中说明了,采取让客户自带显卡的方式(OPENAI 和英伟达AMD博通等都有深度投资合作容易获取算力显卡),这样甲骨文就不用举债担心租赁显卡而产生慢收益高负债的局面。
甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!
甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的自由现金流亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。
甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!
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2025-12-12
错杀,等情绪交替修复
订单储备5230亿却遭抛售,甲骨文34%云增长为何不被买账?
财报发布后,甲骨文股价随即下跌,而不及预期的第三季度业绩指引,进一步加剧了股价的跌幅。财报发布后的夜盘交易中,甲骨文股价跌幅曾扩大至13%。此前,受订单储备规模突破3000亿美元的利好消息提振,公司股价一度飙升36%。受此消息冲击,甲骨文股价此后累计下跌33%。近期,甲骨文公司债券价格持续走低,而用于对冲违约风险的信用违约互换价格则不断攀升。
订单储备5230亿却遭抛售,甲骨文34%云增长为何不被买账?
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2025-12-11
明显错杀,MATE等600多亿合约Q3收到钱了还说什么、哪里有无本的生意?接大单就熬着吧,希望能挺过来
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2025-11-21
$甲骨文(ORCL)$
甲骨文的投资逻辑。接了OPENAI3000亿美元大订单,没有钱做基础建设,换成你来做CEO你会怎么做?不是一样举债来完成吗?又不是刻意没单子盲目举债去做,所以举债无可厚非,至于回报率就交给季报,所以无故做空不合理。举债肯定是会降低毛利率,问题是挣的钱也多了不是?
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2025-11-21
$甲骨文(ORCL)$
甲骨文得罪谁了?这么做空
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2025-10-24
$英特尔(INTC)$
还有6交易日叠加一个利好有望挑战50大关卡本月
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2025-10-21
$甲骨文(ORCL)$
高位你们敢买,低位你们反而不敢重仓买,三根大阴线从三天前最高点到底部差不多20%那请问筹码谁拿走了,价值投资,看好未来5年,只要AI不破灭,就离不开甲骨文
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2025-10-17
该上车的上车该下车的下车基本面没有什么问题
甲骨文盘中大跌8%,投资者质疑AI云业务盈利能力
分析师对甲骨文的前景看法不一。
甲骨文盘中大跌8%,投资者质疑AI云业务盈利能力
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AVGO\">博通</a>收跌1.6%。</p><p>同时,这也导致甲骨文创始人、现任董事长兼首席技术官拉里·埃里森的净资产缩水249亿美元。现年81岁的埃里森在彭博社全球富豪榜上的排名从第二位跌至第三位。</p><img src=\"https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/sz_mmbiz_png/ywRS6L3TEvp0f15ERj1wpWZHwziaFOW3khNrL4e8Enh1ngtT0U7U7R4wWrx0WMTnYUmmhYJOqibUfKQp6Rr4jtJg/640?wx_fmt=png&from=appmsg\"/><p>对于埃里森来说,这可谓是戏剧性的大逆转。9月10日,甲骨文公司股价飙升36%,埃里森的净资产一度增加了890亿美元,超越埃隆·马斯克成为世界首富。</p><p>然而,此后甲骨文股价快速下跌,埃里森只过了一天世界首富的瘾,就被马斯克反超。</p><p>依赖OpenAI成最大变数</p><p>甲骨文的困境,业内将其归咎于对OpenAI合作的过分依赖,并指出甲骨文或许也面临着OpenAI的“红色警报”时刻。</p><p>早在9月份,甲骨文告诉投资者,其剩余履约义务(RPO,即已签署客户合同的未来收入价值)已飙升近360%,达到4550亿美元。但其中超过一半的收入都来自其为OpenAI提供的服务。</p><p>有消息称,OpenAI至少有3000亿美元的投资承诺是作为星际之门项目的一部分而支付的。由于与英伟达、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRWV\">CoreWeave</a> 、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">AMD</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600455\">博通</a>以及甲骨文等公司达成交易,OpenAI的成本预计将达到1.4万亿美元,这引发了人们日益增长的担忧。此外,来自<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>Gemini模型的竞争也日益加剧,这让投资者更加谨慎。</p><p>访问以下网址,订阅最新新闻电邮:</p><p>https://nbwpress.com/subscribe.html</p><p>“显然,过去几个月来,市场对OpenAI的看法发生了逆转,”<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0HB5.UK\">法国巴黎银行</a>分析师斯特凡·斯洛温斯基表示。“OpenAI生态系统显然因此受到了影响。”</p><p>斯洛温斯基和其他华尔街分析师一致认为,OpenAI可能无法支付其广泛的人工智能基础设施建设承诺,这是甲骨文面临的最大风险。</p><p>OpenAI首席执行官山姆·奥特曼上周宣布进入“红色警报”状态,因为这家初创公司面临着来自<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">谷歌</a>日益激烈的竞争。</p><p>“甲骨文目前处境艰难,他们必须为OpenAI这位大客户扩建数据中心容量,为此需要借很多钱,但OpenAI能否支付这笔费用却存在很大的不确定性,”DA Davidson分析师吉尔·卢里亚表示。他称OpenAI的合同“纯属幻想”,并表示OpenAI目前“几乎不可能”有3000亿美元可以花在与甲骨文的交易上。</p><p>因此,真正令甲骨文人工智能业务蒙上阴影的是其与OpenAI之间相互依赖的关系。</p><p>如果真是这样,那么甲骨文最终可能不得不修改其到2030年实现营收翻两番的目标,这将进一步打击投资者的信心。</p><p>资本支出预期大幅上调</p><p>甲骨文公司本周公布的第二季度业绩进一步加剧了投资者的担忧。</p><p>甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的<span>自由现金流</span>亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MS\">摩根士丹利</a>认为,这份财报可能预示着投资者将再次对人工智能投资持怀疑态度。</p><p>该银行的分析师周四写道:“云业务增长处于预期下限,毛利率和营业利润率面临越来越大的压力,这可能会进一步削弱投资者对甲骨文公司有效执行其庞大且不断增长的GPUaaS业务的能力的信心,导致其股价缺乏明显的催化剂。”</p><p>对于许多投资者而言,像甲骨文这样的公司在今年投入巨资将自身打造为人工智能基础设施领域的领导者之后,最终却未能达到分析师的预期,这无疑令人担忧。</p><p>“甲骨文公司自身也面临着越来越严格的审查,审查的焦点在于其以债务驱动的数据中心建设以及在人工智能支出前景不明朗的情况下,其业务集中度风险,”Emarketer分析师雅各布·伯恩表示。“此次营收未达预期,可能会加剧本已谨慎的投资者对其OpenAI交易和激进的人工智能支出计划的担忧。”</p><p>资金缺口巨大</p><p>根据彭博社汇编的数据,甲骨文目前净债务(包括租赁义务)约为1050亿美元,使其在投资级借款人中<span>负债</span>水平较高。</p><p>新任联席首席执行官克莱·马古尔克和迈克·西西利亚在接替甲骨文公司长期掌门人萨弗拉·卡茨后,首次主持财报电话会议。</p><p>马古尔克表示,很难确切回答甲骨文公司需要筹集多少资金来支持其人工智能计划:这取决于该公司是否必须从英伟达和AMD购买芯片,还是能够找到更便宜的方案,例如租赁芯片或让客户提供自己的设备。可以预见的是,这些其他方案可能需要甲骨文公司牺牲部分利润。</p><p>马古瑞克认为,甲骨文公司用于人工智能建设所需的资金将少于一些分析师预测的1000多亿美元,甚至可能“大幅少于”这笔资金。</p><p>实际上,在甲骨文就其庞大增长计划所需的资金提供更清晰的说明之前,投资者始终怀疑它实际上允许OpenAI依赖其<span>资产负债表</span>。通过让甲骨文承担搭建和运营数据中心这些繁琐且成本高昂的工作,OpenAI就无需筹集那么多资金。</p><p>甲骨文在人工智能领域的大举投入需要其投入难以估量的资金。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。</p><p>人工智能数据中心交易旨在通过合同期收回资本支出,租赁付款在数据中心<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01630\">建成</a>后才开始。令人欣喜的是,甲骨文计划在芯片部署方面保持灵活性(从而降低芯片过时的风险);而且,该公司直到建设后期才支付设备款项,最大限度地缩短了不盈利的时期。</p><p>尽管如此,这并未消除投资者对OpenAI风险敞口的担忧。据报道,两家公司之间价值3000亿美元的合同仅分五年支付,而甲骨文的房地产租赁合同通常至少是这个期限的两倍。</p><p>如果OpenAI退出,甲骨文可能不得不向数据中心业主支付高额租金——而且需要填补的资金缺口还很大,具体取决于其已部署的数据中心数量以及届时对人工智能服务的需求量。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。这意味着它未来每年需要支付数十亿美元的租赁费用。</p><p>识别下方二维码</p><p>精准掌握北美商业动态</p><p>北京时间22点准时投递</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!</title>\n<style 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SGD-H1"},"source_url":"http://gu.qq.com/resources/shy/news/detail-v2/index.html#/?id=nesSN20251212135615a4440c31&s=b","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/9a95c1376e76363c1401fee7d3717173","article_id":"2590520582","content_text":"来源:北美商业见闻周四,几乎是甲骨文(ORCL)年内最黑暗的一天。股价盘中跌幅一度高达16%,最终收盘下跌10.83%,报198.85美元/股,总市值5713亿美元,较前一交易日缩水近700亿美元。此前这家科技巨头公布的财报显示,其盈利超出预期,但营收却低于华尔街预期,实际营收为160.6亿美元,低于分析师预期的162.1亿美元。云业务销售额较上一季度增长34%,但也低于预期。值得注意的是,甲骨文公司还承诺明年将比此前预测增加约150亿美元的支出,这引发了人们对大型科技公司激进资本支出的新担忧。甲骨文暴跌拖累了其他几只高增长的人工智能股票,多只股票盘中大跌,但最终跌幅收窄,英伟达收跌1.55%、Palantir收跌0.2%、博通收跌1.6%。同时,这也导致甲骨文创始人、现任董事长兼首席技术官拉里·埃里森的净资产缩水249亿美元。现年81岁的埃里森在彭博社全球富豪榜上的排名从第二位跌至第三位。对于埃里森来说,这可谓是戏剧性的大逆转。9月10日,甲骨文公司股价飙升36%,埃里森的净资产一度增加了890亿美元,超越埃隆·马斯克成为世界首富。然而,此后甲骨文股价快速下跌,埃里森只过了一天世界首富的瘾,就被马斯克反超。依赖OpenAI成最大变数甲骨文的困境,业内将其归咎于对OpenAI合作的过分依赖,并指出甲骨文或许也面临着OpenAI的“红色警报”时刻。早在9月份,甲骨文告诉投资者,其剩余履约义务(RPO,即已签署客户合同的未来收入价值)已飙升近360%,达到4550亿美元。但其中超过一半的收入都来自其为OpenAI提供的服务。有消息称,OpenAI至少有3000亿美元的投资承诺是作为星际之门项目的一部分而支付的。由于与英伟达、CoreWeave 、AMD、博通以及甲骨文等公司达成交易,OpenAI的成本预计将达到1.4万亿美元,这引发了人们日益增长的担忧。此外,来自谷歌Gemini模型的竞争也日益加剧,这让投资者更加谨慎。访问以下网址,订阅最新新闻电邮:https://nbwpress.com/subscribe.html“显然,过去几个月来,市场对OpenAI的看法发生了逆转,”法国巴黎银行分析师斯特凡·斯洛温斯基表示。“OpenAI生态系统显然因此受到了影响。”斯洛温斯基和其他华尔街分析师一致认为,OpenAI可能无法支付其广泛的人工智能基础设施建设承诺,这是甲骨文面临的最大风险。OpenAI首席执行官山姆·奥特曼上周宣布进入“红色警报”状态,因为这家初创公司面临着来自谷歌日益激烈的竞争。“甲骨文目前处境艰难,他们必须为OpenAI这位大客户扩建数据中心容量,为此需要借很多钱,但OpenAI能否支付这笔费用却存在很大的不确定性,”DA Davidson分析师吉尔·卢里亚表示。他称OpenAI的合同“纯属幻想”,并表示OpenAI目前“几乎不可能”有3000亿美元可以花在与甲骨文的交易上。因此,真正令甲骨文人工智能业务蒙上阴影的是其与OpenAI之间相互依赖的关系。如果真是这样,那么甲骨文最终可能不得不修改其到2030年实现营收翻两番的目标,这将进一步打击投资者的信心。资本支出预期大幅上调甲骨文公司本周公布的第二季度业绩进一步加剧了投资者的担忧。甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的自由现金流亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。摩根士丹利认为,这份财报可能预示着投资者将再次对人工智能投资持怀疑态度。该银行的分析师周四写道:“云业务增长处于预期下限,毛利率和营业利润率面临越来越大的压力,这可能会进一步削弱投资者对甲骨文公司有效执行其庞大且不断增长的GPUaaS业务的能力的信心,导致其股价缺乏明显的催化剂。”对于许多投资者而言,像甲骨文这样的公司在今年投入巨资将自身打造为人工智能基础设施领域的领导者之后,最终却未能达到分析师的预期,这无疑令人担忧。“甲骨文公司自身也面临着越来越严格的审查,审查的焦点在于其以债务驱动的数据中心建设以及在人工智能支出前景不明朗的情况下,其业务集中度风险,”Emarketer分析师雅各布·伯恩表示。“此次营收未达预期,可能会加剧本已谨慎的投资者对其OpenAI交易和激进的人工智能支出计划的担忧。”资金缺口巨大根据彭博社汇编的数据,甲骨文目前净债务(包括租赁义务)约为1050亿美元,使其在投资级借款人中负债水平较高。新任联席首席执行官克莱·马古尔克和迈克·西西利亚在接替甲骨文公司长期掌门人萨弗拉·卡茨后,首次主持财报电话会议。马古尔克表示,很难确切回答甲骨文公司需要筹集多少资金来支持其人工智能计划:这取决于该公司是否必须从英伟达和AMD购买芯片,还是能够找到更便宜的方案,例如租赁芯片或让客户提供自己的设备。可以预见的是,这些其他方案可能需要甲骨文公司牺牲部分利润。马古瑞克认为,甲骨文公司用于人工智能建设所需的资金将少于一些分析师预测的1000多亿美元,甚至可能“大幅少于”这笔资金。实际上,在甲骨文就其庞大增长计划所需的资金提供更清晰的说明之前,投资者始终怀疑它实际上允许OpenAI依赖其资产负债表。通过让甲骨文承担搭建和运营数据中心这些繁琐且成本高昂的工作,OpenAI就无需筹集那么多资金。甲骨文在人工智能领域的大举投入需要其投入难以估量的资金。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。人工智能数据中心交易旨在通过合同期收回资本支出,租赁付款在数据中心建成后才开始。令人欣喜的是,甲骨文计划在芯片部署方面保持灵活性(从而降低芯片过时的风险);而且,该公司直到建设后期才支付设备款项,最大限度地缩短了不盈利的时期。尽管如此,这并未消除投资者对OpenAI风险敞口的担忧。据报道,两家公司之间价值3000亿美元的合同仅分五年支付,而甲骨文的房地产租赁合同通常至少是这个期限的两倍。如果OpenAI退出,甲骨文可能不得不向数据中心业主支付高额租金——而且需要填补的资金缺口还很大,具体取决于其已部署的数据中心数量以及届时对人工智能服务的需求量。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。这意味着它未来每年需要支付数十亿美元的租赁费用。识别下方二维码精准掌握北美商业动态北京时间22点准时投递","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"ORCL":1.98}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":259,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":510071647359816,"gmtCreate":1765542084728,"gmtModify":1765542088014,"author":{"id":"4204179768477690","authorId":"4204179768477690","name":"perxuni","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/33616ebe2d7465af2b2b7f0086039240","crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4204179768477690","idStr":"4204179768477690"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"这篇文章引用的数据和时效性有很大问题!比如OPENAI已经发公告了解除红色警戒,还有债务1000亿那是投行预测到2027年的时候,目前不多,而且甲骨文高管也在财报中说明了,采取让客户自带显卡的方式(OPENAI 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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AVGO\">博通</a>收跌1.6%。</p><p>同时,这也导致甲骨文创始人、现任董事长兼首席技术官拉里·埃里森的净资产缩水249亿美元。现年81岁的埃里森在彭博社全球富豪榜上的排名从第二位跌至第三位。</p><img src=\"https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/sz_mmbiz_png/ywRS6L3TEvp0f15ERj1wpWZHwziaFOW3khNrL4e8Enh1ngtT0U7U7R4wWrx0WMTnYUmmhYJOqibUfKQp6Rr4jtJg/640?wx_fmt=png&from=appmsg\"/><p>对于埃里森来说,这可谓是戏剧性的大逆转。9月10日,甲骨文公司股价飙升36%,埃里森的净资产一度增加了890亿美元,超越埃隆·马斯克成为世界首富。</p><p>然而,此后甲骨文股价快速下跌,埃里森只过了一天世界首富的瘾,就被马斯克反超。</p><p>依赖OpenAI成最大变数</p><p>甲骨文的困境,业内将其归咎于对OpenAI合作的过分依赖,并指出甲骨文或许也面临着OpenAI的“红色警报”时刻。</p><p>早在9月份,甲骨文告诉投资者,其剩余履约义务(RPO,即已签署客户合同的未来收入价值)已飙升近360%,达到4550亿美元。但其中超过一半的收入都来自其为OpenAI提供的服务。</p><p>有消息称,OpenAI至少有3000亿美元的投资承诺是作为星际之门项目的一部分而支付的。由于与英伟达、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRWV\">CoreWeave</a> 、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">AMD</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600455\">博通</a>以及甲骨文等公司达成交易,OpenAI的成本预计将达到1.4万亿美元,这引发了人们日益增长的担忧。此外,来自<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOG\">谷歌</a>Gemini模型的竞争也日益加剧,这让投资者更加谨慎。</p><p>访问以下网址,订阅最新新闻电邮:</p><p>https://nbwpress.com/subscribe.html</p><p>“显然,过去几个月来,市场对OpenAI的看法发生了逆转,”<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/0HB5.UK\">法国巴黎银行</a>分析师斯特凡·斯洛温斯基表示。“OpenAI生态系统显然因此受到了影响。”</p><p>斯洛温斯基和其他华尔街分析师一致认为,OpenAI可能无法支付其广泛的人工智能基础设施建设承诺,这是甲骨文面临的最大风险。</p><p>OpenAI首席执行官山姆·奥特曼上周宣布进入“红色警报”状态,因为这家初创公司面临着来自<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">谷歌</a>日益激烈的竞争。</p><p>“甲骨文目前处境艰难,他们必须为OpenAI这位大客户扩建数据中心容量,为此需要借很多钱,但OpenAI能否支付这笔费用却存在很大的不确定性,”DA Davidson分析师吉尔·卢里亚表示。他称OpenAI的合同“纯属幻想”,并表示OpenAI目前“几乎不可能”有3000亿美元可以花在与甲骨文的交易上。</p><p>因此,真正令甲骨文人工智能业务蒙上阴影的是其与OpenAI之间相互依赖的关系。</p><p>如果真是这样,那么甲骨文最终可能不得不修改其到2030年实现营收翻两番的目标,这将进一步打击投资者的信心。</p><p>资本支出预期大幅上调</p><p>甲骨文公司本周公布的第二季度业绩进一步加剧了投资者的担忧。</p><p>甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的<span>自由现金流</span>亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。</p><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MS\">摩根士丹利</a>认为,这份财报可能预示着投资者将再次对人工智能投资持怀疑态度。</p><p>该银行的分析师周四写道:“云业务增长处于预期下限,毛利率和营业利润率面临越来越大的压力,这可能会进一步削弱投资者对甲骨文公司有效执行其庞大且不断增长的GPUaaS业务的能力的信心,导致其股价缺乏明显的催化剂。”</p><p>对于许多投资者而言,像甲骨文这样的公司在今年投入巨资将自身打造为人工智能基础设施领域的领导者之后,最终却未能达到分析师的预期,这无疑令人担忧。</p><p>“甲骨文公司自身也面临着越来越严格的审查,审查的焦点在于其以债务驱动的数据中心建设以及在人工智能支出前景不明朗的情况下,其业务集中度风险,”Emarketer分析师雅各布·伯恩表示。“此次营收未达预期,可能会加剧本已谨慎的投资者对其OpenAI交易和激进的人工智能支出计划的担忧。”</p><p>资金缺口巨大</p><p>根据彭博社汇编的数据,甲骨文目前净债务(包括租赁义务)约为1050亿美元,使其在投资级借款人中<span>负债</span>水平较高。</p><p>新任联席首席执行官克莱·马古尔克和迈克·西西利亚在接替甲骨文公司长期掌门人萨弗拉·卡茨后,首次主持财报电话会议。</p><p>马古尔克表示,很难确切回答甲骨文公司需要筹集多少资金来支持其人工智能计划:这取决于该公司是否必须从英伟达和AMD购买芯片,还是能够找到更便宜的方案,例如租赁芯片或让客户提供自己的设备。可以预见的是,这些其他方案可能需要甲骨文公司牺牲部分利润。</p><p>马古瑞克认为,甲骨文公司用于人工智能建设所需的资金将少于一些分析师预测的1000多亿美元,甚至可能“大幅少于”这笔资金。</p><p>实际上,在甲骨文就其庞大增长计划所需的资金提供更清晰的说明之前,投资者始终怀疑它实际上允许OpenAI依赖其<span>资产负债表</span>。通过让甲骨文承担搭建和运营数据中心这些繁琐且成本高昂的工作,OpenAI就无需筹集那么多资金。</p><p>甲骨文在人工智能领域的大举投入需要其投入难以估量的资金。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。</p><p>人工智能数据中心交易旨在通过合同期收回资本支出,租赁付款在数据中心<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/01630\">建成</a>后才开始。令人欣喜的是,甲骨文计划在芯片部署方面保持灵活性(从而降低芯片过时的风险);而且,该公司直到建设后期才支付设备款项,最大限度地缩短了不盈利的时期。</p><p>尽管如此,这并未消除投资者对OpenAI风险敞口的担忧。据报道,两家公司之间价值3000亿美元的合同仅分五年支付,而甲骨文的房地产租赁合同通常至少是这个期限的两倍。</p><p>如果OpenAI退出,甲骨文可能不得不向数据中心业主支付高额租金——而且需要填补的资金缺口还很大,具体取决于其已部署的数据中心数量以及届时对人工智能服务的需求量。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。这意味着它未来每年需要支付数十亿美元的租赁费用。</p><p>识别下方二维码</p><p>精准掌握北美商业动态</p><p>北京时间22点准时投递</p></article></body></html>","source":"tencent","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>甲骨文的至暗时刻:被铁杆客户“吸血”,3000亿美元可能要黄!</title>\n<style 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、AMD、博通以及甲骨文等公司达成交易,OpenAI的成本预计将达到1.4万亿美元,这引发了人们日益增长的担忧。此外,来自谷歌Gemini模型的竞争也日益加剧,这让投资者更加谨慎。访问以下网址,订阅最新新闻电邮:https://nbwpress.com/subscribe.html“显然,过去几个月来,市场对OpenAI的看法发生了逆转,”法国巴黎银行分析师斯特凡·斯洛温斯基表示。“OpenAI生态系统显然因此受到了影响。”斯洛温斯基和其他华尔街分析师一致认为,OpenAI可能无法支付其广泛的人工智能基础设施建设承诺,这是甲骨文面临的最大风险。OpenAI首席执行官山姆·奥特曼上周宣布进入“红色警报”状态,因为这家初创公司面临着来自谷歌日益激烈的竞争。“甲骨文目前处境艰难,他们必须为OpenAI这位大客户扩建数据中心容量,为此需要借很多钱,但OpenAI能否支付这笔费用却存在很大的不确定性,”DA Davidson分析师吉尔·卢里亚表示。他称OpenAI的合同“纯属幻想”,并表示OpenAI目前“几乎不可能”有3000亿美元可以花在与甲骨文的交易上。因此,真正令甲骨文人工智能业务蒙上阴影的是其与OpenAI之间相互依赖的关系。如果真是这样,那么甲骨文最终可能不得不修改其到2030年实现营收翻两番的目标,这将进一步打击投资者的信心。资本支出预期大幅上调甲骨文公司本周公布的第二季度业绩进一步加剧了投资者的担忧。甲骨文120亿美元的资本支出高于预期,其100亿美元的自由现金流亏损也远超预期的60亿美元流出。甲骨文公司还大幅上调了全年资本支出预期,从350亿美元增至500亿美元。摩根士丹利认为,这份财报可能预示着投资者将再次对人工智能投资持怀疑态度。该银行的分析师周四写道:“云业务增长处于预期下限,毛利率和营业利润率面临越来越大的压力,这可能会进一步削弱投资者对甲骨文公司有效执行其庞大且不断增长的GPUaaS业务的能力的信心,导致其股价缺乏明显的催化剂。”对于许多投资者而言,像甲骨文这样的公司在今年投入巨资将自身打造为人工智能基础设施领域的领导者之后,最终却未能达到分析师的预期,这无疑令人担忧。“甲骨文公司自身也面临着越来越严格的审查,审查的焦点在于其以债务驱动的数据中心建设以及在人工智能支出前景不明朗的情况下,其业务集中度风险,”Emarketer分析师雅各布·伯恩表示。“此次营收未达预期,可能会加剧本已谨慎的投资者对其OpenAI交易和激进的人工智能支出计划的担忧。”资金缺口巨大根据彭博社汇编的数据,甲骨文目前净债务(包括租赁义务)约为1050亿美元,使其在投资级借款人中负债水平较高。新任联席首席执行官克莱·马古尔克和迈克·西西利亚在接替甲骨文公司长期掌门人萨弗拉·卡茨后,首次主持财报电话会议。马古尔克表示,很难确切回答甲骨文公司需要筹集多少资金来支持其人工智能计划:这取决于该公司是否必须从英伟达和AMD购买芯片,还是能够找到更便宜的方案,例如租赁芯片或让客户提供自己的设备。可以预见的是,这些其他方案可能需要甲骨文公司牺牲部分利润。马古瑞克认为,甲骨文公司用于人工智能建设所需的资金将少于一些分析师预测的1000多亿美元,甚至可能“大幅少于”这笔资金。实际上,在甲骨文就其庞大增长计划所需的资金提供更清晰的说明之前,投资者始终怀疑它实际上允许OpenAI依赖其资产负债表。通过让甲骨文承担搭建和运营数据中心这些繁琐且成本高昂的工作,OpenAI就无需筹集那么多资金。甲骨文在人工智能领域的大举投入需要其投入难以估量的资金。该公司目前预计本财年将产生500亿美元的资本支出。人工智能数据中心交易旨在通过合同期收回资本支出,租赁付款在数据中心建成后才开始。令人欣喜的是,甲骨文计划在芯片部署方面保持灵活性(从而降低芯片过时的风险);而且,该公司直到建设后期才支付设备款项,最大限度地缩短了不盈利的时期。尽管如此,这并未消除投资者对OpenAI风险敞口的担忧。据报道,两家公司之间价值3000亿美元的合同仅分五年支付,而甲骨文的房地产租赁合同通常至少是这个期限的两倍。如果OpenAI退出,甲骨文可能不得不向数据中心业主支付高额租金——而且需要填补的资金缺口还很大,具体取决于其已部署的数据中心数量以及届时对人工智能服务的需求量。甲骨文的资产负债表上有超过160亿美元的经营租赁负债,此外还有约1000亿美元的租赁承诺尚未生效。这意味着它未来每年需要支付数十亿美元的租赁费用。识别下方二维码精准掌握北美商业动态北京时间22点准时投递","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"ORCL":1.98}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":367,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":509928144347136,"gmtCreate":1765479284755,"gmtModify":1765479287382,"author":{"id":"4204179768477690","authorId":"4204179768477690","name":"perxuni","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/33616ebe2d7465af2b2b7f0086039240","crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"4204179768477690","idStr":"4204179768477690"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"错杀,等情绪交替修复","listText":"错杀,等情绪交替修复","text":"错杀,等情绪交替修复","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/509928144347136","repostId":"1151948776","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1151948776","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"为用户提供金融资讯、行情、数据,旨在帮助投资者理解世界,做投资决策。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"老虎资讯综合","id":"102","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1765433386,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1151948776?lang=zh_CN&edition=full","pubTime":"2025-12-11 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营收指引双双失准</h3><p>财报数据显示,甲骨文第二季度调整后每股收益达2.26美元,远高于华尔街分析师普遍预期的1.64美元,较去年同期的1.47美元亦有显著增长。这一超预期表现,很大程度上得益于甲骨文以27亿美元价格,将其持有的安晟培(Ampere)芯片公司股份出售给软银集团,这一笔交易为公司摊薄后每股收益贡献了0.91美元的税前增量。</p><p>该季度甲骨文总营收达到160.6亿美元,同比增长14%,但略低于市场预期的161.9亿美元。</p><h3 id=\"id_3696135005\">云业务撑起半壁江山 高投入拖累利润率与现金流</h3><p>甲骨文多年期订单储备规模攀升至5230亿美元,较上一季度增加680亿美元。这一指标是衡量甲骨文向云服务企业转型进度的核心参考。过去十年,甲骨文传统企业软件业务增长缓慢,但始终保持高利润率水平。五年前,甲骨文开始效仿微软(MSFT)的云业务战略:一方面推动客户向云原生软件迁移,另一方面大力建设可对外租赁的数据中心基础设施,以此与亚马逊云科技展开竞争。</p><p>目前,云业务营收已占据甲骨文总营收的近半壁江山,<strong>该季度云业务收入逼近80亿美元,同比增长34%</strong>。其中,云服务器租赁业务营收同比激增68%。反观甲骨文的其他业务板块,即传统打包软件业务,该季度营收同比下滑1%。</p><p>甲骨文向客户的核心推介点在于,客户可依托甲骨文领先的数据库软件中存储的自有数据,开展人工智能相关业务。甲骨文创始人兼董事长Larry Ellison表示:“基于公共数据训练人工智能模型,是有史以来规模最大、增长最快的业务领域。而基于私有数据进行推理的人工智能模型业务,未来规模将更为庞大,商业价值也会更高。全球大部分高价值私有数据,都存储在甲骨文的数据库之中。”</p><p>不过,云业务的利润率低于传统软件业务,这也拖累了公司整体的调整后营业利润率。该指标从去年同期的43.4%,下降至本季度的41.9%。与此同时,云业务的扩张也将甲骨文的资本开支推向新高——过去12个月,公司资本开支累计达350亿美元,这直接导致公司自由现金流录得130亿美元的亏损。</p><h3 id=\"id_1351153052\">OpenAI大单效应消退 转型融资压力加剧股价波动</h3><p>自三个月前发布上一份财报以来,甲骨文股价走势可谓一波三折。此前,受订单储备规模突破3000亿美元的利好消息提振,公司股价一度飙升36%。但随后市场便发现,这一巨额增长实则由甲骨文与人工智能初创企业OpenAI签订的单一订单驱动。值得注意的是,OpenAI目前仍处于亏损状态,不仅无力支付3000亿美元的订单金额,其融资前景亦不明朗。受此消息冲击,甲骨文股价此后累计下跌33%。</p><p>受与OpenAI的合作订单及相关“星门计划”的推动,甲骨文向云基础设施服务商转型的步伐正在加快。“星门计划”拟斥资5000亿美元在美国新建数据中心,甲骨文是该计划的核心参与方之一,首批新建数据中心已于今年9月正式投入运营。</p><p>在转型云基础设施服务商的过程中,甲骨文的资产负债表与现金流结构正发生显著变化。公司于今年9月新增180亿美元债务,且未来为履行云业务客户订单,还需筹措更多资金。近期,甲骨文公司债券价格持续走低,而用于对冲违约风险的信用违约互换价格则不断攀升。尽管这一趋势在12月曾有所缓解,但在本次财报发布后,甲骨文信用违约互换价格再度开启上涨走势。</p><p>当被问及公司在基础设施扩建方面所需的融资规模时,甲骨文首席执行官Clay Magouyrk回应称,实际所需资金将低于部分华尔街分析师预估的1000亿美元。他强调:“我们致力于维持投资级的债务评级。”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" 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高投入拖累利润率与现金流</h3><p>甲骨文多年期订单储备规模攀升至5230亿美元,较上一季度增加680亿美元。这一指标是衡量甲骨文向云服务企业转型进度的核心参考。过去十年,甲骨文传统企业软件业务增长缓慢,但始终保持高利润率水平。五年前,甲骨文开始效仿微软(MSFT)的云业务战略:一方面推动客户向云原生软件迁移,另一方面大力建设可对外租赁的数据中心基础设施,以此与亚马逊云科技展开竞争。</p><p>目前,云业务营收已占据甲骨文总营收的近半壁江山,<strong>该季度云业务收入逼近80亿美元,同比增长34%</strong>。其中,云服务器租赁业务营收同比激增68%。反观甲骨文的其他业务板块,即传统打包软件业务,该季度营收同比下滑1%。</p><p>甲骨文向客户的核心推介点在于,客户可依托甲骨文领先的数据库软件中存储的自有数据,开展人工智能相关业务。甲骨文创始人兼董事长Larry Ellison表示:“基于公共数据训练人工智能模型,是有史以来规模最大、增长最快的业务领域。而基于私有数据进行推理的人工智能模型业务,未来规模将更为庞大,商业价值也会更高。全球大部分高价值私有数据,都存储在甲骨文的数据库之中。”</p><p>不过,云业务的利润率低于传统软件业务,这也拖累了公司整体的调整后营业利润率。该指标从去年同期的43.4%,下降至本季度的41.9%。与此同时,云业务的扩张也将甲骨文的资本开支推向新高——过去12个月,公司资本开支累计达350亿美元,这直接导致公司自由现金流录得130亿美元的亏损。</p><h3 id=\"id_1351153052\">OpenAI大单效应消退 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