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patricklin
patricklin
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04-02
整天造谣
小米新SU7,逼急特斯拉
21世纪经济报道记者易思琳3月19日,在距离北京1700公里之外的重庆赛力斯总部,营销部门、车型部门等相关同事到了下班点都没有离开公司,而是一起组织了一场新一代SU7上市观摩会。新一代SU7和主打SUV的问界,用户群并不重合,也不算直接竞品。“只要是小米的产品我们都会跟进。”一位问界的内部人员告诉21世纪经济报道记者,他们主要学习小米怎么做销售权益、做产品的价值对比。
小米新SU7,逼急特斯拉
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patricklin
patricklin
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04-01
年初数据如何能和年底的比?同比才是科学的,黑编辑
特斯拉(TSLA)第一季度交付量环比下降 原因系电动汽车需求疲软
金吾财讯 | 根据Visible Alpha调查的分析师预计,特斯拉(TSLA)在第一季度期间的交付量约为36.89万辆,环比下降11.8%,但同比增长9.6%。欧洲和中国日益激烈的竞争,以及美国9月份电动汽车购买7,500美元联邦税收抵免政策的到期,都对需求构成压力。尽管华尔街的预测仍然指向今年温和增长,但近几个月来市场情绪发生了显著变化,一些分析师预计销量将出现下滑。根据Visible Alpha的数据,分析师预计特斯拉今年的交付量为170万辆,2027年将达到184万辆。特斯拉正日益将该公司将重心从电动汽车转移到太阳能、人形机器人和自动驾驶出租车,并将其视为公司业务的下一个支柱。
特斯拉(TSLA)第一季度交付量环比下降 原因系电动汽车需求疲软
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patricklin
patricklin
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2025-08-01
工业垃圾,不知敬畏,安全大漏
雷军:7月,小米汽车交付量超过30000台
8月1日,$小米(01810)$集团董事长雷军:7月,$小米(81810)$汽车交付量超过30000台。感谢大家的选择与支持。
雷军:7月,小米汽车交付量超过30000台
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patricklin
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2025-02-19
用英文问结果正确。
9.9和9.11哪个大?马斯克的Grok-3也翻车了
这是一个曾让不少大模型“翻车”的数学题。北京时间2月19日,在马斯克发布自称“ 世界上最聪明的人工智能”Grok-3后,有用户尝试测试版本,发现该模型在不加任何定语及标注的情况下,无法正确回答刁难AI大模型的经典问题。 第一财经向Grok-3提问后,AI回答称“9.11比9.9大”,直接“翻车”。不过,也有获得测试资格的用户表示,Grok-3的性能很好,肯定处于行业第一梯队。
9.9和9.11哪个大?马斯克的Grok-3也翻车了
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2024-02-29
$特斯拉(TSLA)$
长期感觉能接近微软市值
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2021-06-26
$维珍银河(SPCE)$
2年内目标价1500,3个月目标价350
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2021-04-27
$InspireMD Inc.(NSPR)$
这股票流通就这么点市值,看样子要废了
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相比于问界,特斯拉更是将新一代SU7视为头号竞品。近期21世纪经济报道记者走访多家特斯拉门店发现,新一代SU7上市的第三天,特斯拉内部就已经准备了一份详细的从金融政策到产品亮点的竞品对标文档,而其他相同价位段的车型并没有这个待遇。 特斯拉直营门店的销售告诉我们,在新一代SU7还没上市前,就有不少用户进店来和Model 3进行对比。“进店看特斯拉的客户,10个人里有一半以上都是拿Model 3和SU7做对比的。我们没有办法忽视这款车。” 瞄准新一代SU7,特斯拉销售火力全开 特斯拉销售要成功拿下Model 3的订单,新一代SU7成为了绕不开的一款车。 “我们标准版是瞄准特斯拉Model 3做的,90%的指标都超过特斯拉,参数对标,小米很有信心。”小米集团董事长雷军在发布会上直言。 事实也确实如此。新一代SU7共提供三个版本:后驱标准版、后驱Pro版、四驱Max版,售价分别是21.99万元、24.99万元、30.39万元,CLTC续航分别是720km、902km、835km。 单从各个版本的定价和续航上做对比,特斯拉Model 3并不占优势。特斯拉的销售们深知这一点。21世纪经济报道记者在走访门店的过程中发现,在给来店咨询的客户做介绍时,多家特斯拉销售都对两款车型的价格和续航闭口不谈,而是更多强调特斯拉在金融政策、售后和能耗方面的优势。 以金融政策为例,小米新一代SU7提供了五年、七年分期付款等3种主要的金融方案:1、五年分期,年化费率2.5%;2、七年低首付,首付4.99万元,年化费率2.1%;3、七年低利息,首付9.99万元,年化费率1.9%。 相比之下,特斯拉对Model 3的金融优惠政策是:4月30日之前下定,可以申请5年0息或7年低息方案。同时,在4月30日之前下定,可以补贴8000元的保险。 “全款可以买小米,分期选特斯拉。”一位北京特斯拉门店的销售表示。 七年低息方案,小米的年化费率是1.9%,而特斯拉是0.5%。“不是所有车企都能向银行申请0.5%的年化费率。”特斯拉销售强调。 上述人士称,按照上述方案,Model 3后轮驱动版比小米SU7标准版最高便宜约1.5万元,Model 3长续航后轮驱动版比SU7 Pro最高便宜约2.5万元。 (特斯拉销售做的两款车金融政策对比图,图源:21世纪经济报道现场拍摄) 不过,21世纪经济报道记者查阅小米汽车App发现,小米为YU7提供的7年低息方案,年化费率也低于新一代SU7,小米SU7 Ultra则提供了五年0息权益。“新一代SU7的金融方案不算激进,或许还是因为小米不急于刺激用户下单,也给后续调整留了空间。”有业内人士表示。 在金融政策之外,特斯拉销售们对两款车对比的还有售后。一位今年刚加入特斯拉的销售告诉21世纪经济报道记者,小米的车不愁卖,但交付慢,售后门店数量也不如特斯拉。“小米的售后门店很少,相较之下,特斯拉的售后门店要多出很多家。” 在性能方面,特斯拉将对比的重点放在了能耗上。新一代SU7三个版本的官方续航都比Model 3的续航更长。对此特斯拉销售更强调Model 3的电池是自研的,整体的续航很抗打。 特斯拉销售对21世纪经济报道记者介绍,Model 3车重1.7吨,新一代SU7重约2吨,“这意味着小米是通过堆砌大电池来增加续航,用18度电换来了50公里的续航增加,但却比以前多重了600斤,得不偿失。” 不过小米门店销售对此也有应对话术,小米销售向21世纪经济报道记者介绍:“新一代SU7每一款续航都很强,各大机构评测续航达成率都领先行业,其中SU7 Pro更是位列纯电轿车续航第一名。” 对于能耗上的差距,小米并没有回避。在新一代SU7的发布会上,小米在产品介绍的PPT里特意强调,Model 3后驱版和长续航后驱版的CLTC电耗表现,分别优于新一代SU7标准版和Pro。但新一代SU7 Max的CLTC电耗为13.4kWh/100km,优于Model 3高性能四驱版。 特斯拉中国,正在将小米视为头号竞争对手 Model 3是特斯拉的畅销车型,也是纯电轿车的标杆车型。不少传统燃油车企在转型新能源时,都是将特斯拉作为榜样进行模仿、学习。奔驰在去年发布全新纯电产品CLA时,就全面对标Model 3。国内新势力对标Model 3的车型更是数不胜数。 但21世纪经济报道记者在探访特斯拉门店的过程中发现,像小米新一代SU7被特斯拉销售如此系统对标的车型几乎没有。比如在提到奔驰CLA时,特斯拉销售更多强调特斯拉是全球纯电销量第一,并说不出两款车在更多功能细节上的对比;在被问到理想i6和Model 3之间该如何做抉择时,特斯拉销售只能说出座椅、电池等零星功能的优势。 从一线门店的销售话术来看,特斯拉中国已经将小米视为特斯拉在国内市场的头号竞争对手。 特斯拉对小米的焦虑不无道理。在中国市场,小米已经成为特斯拉无法绕开的竞争对手,2025年,小米全年交付新车41.1万台车。2025年,特斯拉在中国市场挂牌销量为62.89万辆。虽然特斯拉总销量依然超过小米,从单车型上来说,去年小米SU7交付了超过24万台,超过Model 3成为2025年20万元以上纯电轿车销量冠军。 一位在特斯拉工作4年的店长称,两年前,小米发布第一款轿车SU7时,特斯拉并没有觉得小米是强有力的竞品,只认为它是众多追随特斯拉造车路线的其中一员。直到小米一路打破中国汽车行业的既有记录,特斯拉也无法忽略这个跨行造车的后来者。 第一代SU7在22个月的生命周期里,交付了超过38万辆,是唯一能在20万以上纯电轿车市场与Model 3竞争的车型。截至今年2月,小米YU7也连续7个月排名中大型SUV销量第一,并且多次单月交付量超过特斯拉Model Y。 3月23日,雷军在新一代SU7交付的直播中透露,当时这款车的锁单量已经超过3万台。“新SU7本身是改款升级,并非颠覆性的全新产品。能在3天内实现锁单3万台,这个成绩已经跑赢很多同行了,整体上符合预期。”一位投资经理向我们表示。 而在交付上,新一代SU7于3月19日发布,3月23日即进行首批交付,据小米汽车4月1日披露,新SU7首周交付超过7000台。作为对比,Model 3今年2月在中国一共交付了1.29万台。 不管是对小米和特斯拉两家厂商而言,还是对新一代SU7和Model3两款明星车型而言,双方的近身缠斗,都才刚刚开始。 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达观数据联合创始人张健对记者说:“Grok-3依然遵循大力出奇迹的缩放定律,通过堆叠大量算力和增大模型规模,追求极致性能提升。这种方式短期内可能在特定评测指标上取得领先,但性价比相对较低,更像是在探索模型性能的上限。”\n 但也有从业者表示“大力出奇迹”的思路还有较长的路要走,并认为成立时间不久的xAI,能够在短时间内实现一流的性能水平,说明卷算力,卷投资仍有价值。\n 韦豪创芯合伙人王智此前向记者表示,AI向未来演进,更多新架构和算法,长期而言,足够算力的支持必不可少。\n 不过越来越多人开始质疑这种“大力出奇迹”的方向。有评论称单看基准测试,虽然Grok-3各项数据领先,但是提升幅度并不大,尤其考虑到xAI已经花费巨额资金用来训练Grok-3。\n “马斯克的AI智算集群方案非常激进,不仅要求大规模的资金投入,而且要求快速部署快速上马。”Omdia分析师王珅告诉记者。\n 张健认为,不管是DeepSeek还是Grok3,两种方向并非完全对立,而是各有侧重,可能长期并存,并在技术发展中逐渐融合。“Grok 3 代表着对性能极限的探索,Deepseek 则代表着对实用性和效率的追求。两者共同推动AI技术进步,最终目标都是构建更强大、更智能、更实用的AI系统。”张健表示。\n 王珅认为,这两种方向的侧重可能有着先后顺序。“我们团队判断,在2026年至2027年间,AI智算中心的堆算力高峰会过去,然后是各种硬件和模型的深度优化打磨。中国由于硬件限制,会更早强调优化。”\n 上海市人工智能行业协会秘书长钟俊浩告诉记者:“两种方向都重要,但有着优先级的差异,对性能极限探索是基础,而追求实用性和效率的方向要站在前者基础之上。”\n (本文来自第一财经)\n\n\n\n海量资讯、精准解读,尽在新浪财经APP\n\n责任编辑:刘万里 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