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  摩根大通后悔自己持有少，唱衰小米好加仓呢
  小米真的好，但也真的贵！又一家华尔街大行下调小米评级
  继瑞银后，摩根大通也对小米发表谨慎观点。瑞银此前同样表示小米估值已包含最乐观预期，股价存在进一步上涨的催化剂，但所需执行条件极为苛刻。小米股价近期大幅上涨，摩根大通却将其评级从"增持"下调至"中性"。股价进一步上涨的催化剂存在，但所需执行条件极为苛刻。这一预期已基本假设了小米电动车业务将完美执行，几乎没有犯错空间。2024年互联网服务业务仅贡献小米总收入的9%和毛利的34%。
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