5倍杠杆要来了！英伟达、特斯拉、比特币…更想买哪个？ - 老虎社区

文学爱好者

00:47

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 持续看好心态

车圈搬砖小锅

10-21 17:58

特斯拉新一代Roadster今年亮相 10月20日消息，特斯拉首席设计师弗朗茨·冯·霍尔茨豪森确认，新一代Roadster会如期在今年亮相，研发已接近完成，还会给车主提供“独家车身喷漆”，期待值很高了。最让大家期待的是性能——马斯克之前宣称，新款Roadster 0-100km/h加速不到1秒，比很多超跑还快的加速，普通消费者也能买到。有意思的是，特斯拉一边冲高端性能，一边没忘中端市场。最近在美国、欧洲上市的Model Y标准版，3.99万美元起售，大约是28.5万人民币，设计师还强调“便宜但不丢高端感”，明显是高低端两头抓。不过话说回来，“加速不到1秒”的量产车，还得看实际落地表现——轮胎抓地力、车身稳定性这些都得经过实测。但不管怎样，Roadster这波预热已经把性能迷的胃口吊满了，就等今年正式亮相揭晓答案。 $特斯拉(TSLA)$

10-21 09:47

英伟达 10 倍不

10-20 08:19

我觉得都行，那支都没关系，把握好机会赚钱

我在老虎一周年

10-19 22:51

我是不会玩五倍的二倍三倍的足矣

10-19 18:27

🙃

勇敢小飞猪

10-18

可能会买吧，哈哈，永远记住一点就是不要做空美股， [财迷] [财迷] [财迷] [财迷] [财迷]其实5倍损耗也挺多的，希望一涨到底吧 $苹果(AAPL)$ $特斯拉(TSLA)$

10-18

这太刺激了，那还不如买longcall

10-17

这个好，不需要玩3.3倍会爆仓的杠杆了

10-17

苦命人的一天：白天A股割肉，下午美股割肉，结果老美起床一看还是红的。 $特斯拉(TSLA)$

爱吃苹果的小李

10-17

都在嘴上说说而已。在利益面前，大家都会妥协，不过是在互相博弈。英伟达全面退出中国市场，你信吗？你觉得中国能彻底离开英伟达吗？ $英伟达(NVDA)$

10-17

amdamdamdamd amd amd amd amd

2倍杠杆做空瑞幸已爆仓

10-17

$特斯拉(TSLA)$ 特斯拉特斯拉，五倍杠杆，做对了发财，做错方向就下地狱[开心]

10-17

特斯拉，绝对多头11111111

10-17

NV是目前我看到一直赚钱的、技术领先的好公司，支持它

沙漠追光大海逐风

10-17

$特斯拉(TSLA)$长远看，星链会只有一个，所以ai数据中心都必须向musk交税，看好特斯拉

艳阳高照天

10-17

$英伟达(NVDA)$绝大部分人，都是一会极度贪婪想赚AI的大钱暴富，一会一会极度恐慌觉得AI是最大的泡沫，真正懂的人拿住英伟达就好了

10-17

TSLA 和 NVDA一直看好

10-17

这个时候推出5倍杠杆，看来是急需为信仰护盘的选手。。。

10-17

并不适合与所有人参加。

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